SPOILERS: We're Alive Discussion

I thought the first 5 minutes of more of Michael playing the guitar and chatting to Pegs was a real low point in the series. Badly acted and nothing happened. It's slow pace actually reminded me of Harbour Hotel back in the 80s just before Lunch on RTE radio 1 (other than the hint of pre-marital sex which would never have happened in holy catholic Harbour Hotel, other than that is was mind numbing boring pointless conversation)

The rest of the ep was good though. It is interesting that both parties are hearing the same back story at the same time. I bet one of them will get critical info that the others don't meaning the others are in danger. Perhaps that the Mallers have been working with with the people at the military base and that's where they are heading. That way Saul and Victor will head for the base to continue their search for Saul's girl (forgot her name it's been so long since she was actually in it) and down the line willl therefore be able to link up with Michael's group.

And we finally got some Z action and combat even if it was in a flashback.

Still going througth the old episodes. Listened to Mark Of The Beast last night.

Kalani knew the exact location of the army base before his daughter was killed. He gets Michael to give him the name of the base, the exact distance from the tower and where it is on a map.

He was also on watch duty and radio duty before Michael/Burt/Angel/Reily/Saul geared up to attack the maller's stripmall.

The maller convoy before it was attacked also had a mention over their radios of the direction they were going and it matched what Michael told Kalani so Maller have to be enroute to the base.

Another thing I had forgotten was that before the mallers got to the arena their main convoy was attacked and that attack also had the other types of creatures in it, and the tattooed creature was at that attack as well. Which makes me think that the army of creatures that arrive at the hospital were those from the arena that had left it before the mallers arrived with their tankers.

But it also brings me back to the question I posed earlier about the other types of creatures. They should still be about if they were able to attack the maller's convoy and be part of the creature army that entered the hospital, plus the creature numbers should be high due to that huge army of creature that was entering the hospital and the fact that the creatures were still turning ordinary humans into creatures right up to the time of the attack on the maller convoy.

deise go deo wrote: »

I guess the lack of them in the city means they are going after the maller convoy? Maybe for a big showdown at the army base(With Saul/Victor showing up from the rear in the nick of time to save the day maybe?)

I don't think so. The convoy was gone a few days by the time we had the creature army arriving at the hospital which is in the opposite to the army base. Tattoo creature was at the maller convoy attack, but he was at the hospital at a later date when he caught the arrow that was shot at him.

Tattoo guy is some kind of super human (super creature ) as he proved too fast at least twice when Burt tried to shoot him, and the third time burt went to shoot him he only got his hand. Plus he has reflexes that are capable of allowing him to catch an arrow fired from fairly close range not to mention the optical ability to track that arrow in flight. Plus the time Burt shot him in the hand, that was after the creature had jumped from either the second or third floor of the tower and landed with no injuries, in fact he was able to start running at an extreme pace upon landing.

I am wondering if the hospital is where the tatooed creature takes suitable candidates to be turned into the non regular type of creatures after all Kalani and Reily saw all sorts of wierd stuff on the floor where they came across him.

DakotaYoda wrote: »

Yeah I like that idea Kess, that tattoo is collecting suitable candidates. I need to go back and listen to the old ones again too... I remember most of this stuff but it's a little fuzzy.

So - could the hospital be their "base" for upgrades/conversion? And, if so, then what was the arena? Just food storage?

I think the arena was as you say. A food storage area, and I would guess that they have a number of them as the city would have had millions of people in it when the outbreak started. So even if as low as 1 in 5 became creatures, there would still be a 7 figure number of creatures just in that one city and it's surrounding 'burbs.

deise go deo wrote: »

Are the creature in the pin-striped suit and the tattooed creature the same guy?
Also, if Kalani came from Hawaii to LA trying to escape the outbreak, would that not mean that they happened simultaniously, or at least very close to it? If so, then either they are two separate outbreakes, or it started somewhere other than LA as the Zombies could not have gotten to Hawaii from LA faster than news of the outbreak.

Yep they are the same creature. He/it was described in detail when he/it was cornered inside of Tower 1, the suit and tattoes were described. Plus Burt confirmed that he/it was the same creature they saw when they got the oil tanker and that was spying on them during the first Maller attack on the tower. Plus Kalani confirms that it was the same one that got into the other tower after he saw it in the hospital. Someone else confirmed it is just one creature as well, but cannot remember who right now.


The point you make about the outbreak in Hawaii is a very good one. It kinda runs right over the theory that ground zero is in LA at the spot that makes people feel weird.

Finished the season two finale.

A few things bugged me second time round.

Burt fell from the very top of the tower. Well technically he fell from the rope that was going from the top of the tower to the top of the building next door. Basically he fell ten or more stories into the open air and was screaming on his way down.

Angel was standing on top of the tower when the building collapsed.


Now after the closing credits we have the bit where the mallers find someone that is still alive. It is made to sound like they found Angel and Scratch says that she has now found who she was looking for and to put him with the old man. Now she and the other mallers have been calling Burt the Old Man for a long time so we can assume she found Burt.

Now they do not say whether Burt is dead or alive (although there are not many ways one could survive a fall of more than 10 stories that was quickly followed by a tower block falling into the same area, but before Burt fell from the top of the building the story switched from the pov of us watching,well listening to, the action to that of Burt talking about the incidents that were happening in the past tense much like many of the characters did in the first series. So if Burt is talking about the events in the past tense or if it is meant to be the character writing it into his journel, then he would have to have survived the huge fall.

Also there was more chat amongst the mallers about how Durai and the rest of the maller convoy were on their way to the "other" location (army base?)


Also there was more evidence in the last episode of the city crawling with creatures compared to season three. The season two finale was set after the mallers blew up the tower, but the gunshots at the golf club (which is miles and miles from the tower) had loads of creatures arriving within minutes, plus the battle at the tower had hundred and hundreds of creatures present with the mallers also making comment about needing to get the job done before the special creatures (as the Mallers called them) came to join the regular creatures.

But season three sees gunfire and a big loud diesel truck in the middle of the city attracting minimal attention from the creatures. So if the place was swarming with them after the arena went down where are they now? I don't buy that they are simply following the convoy because there are millions of creatures everywhere, as shown when Michael and co flew their helicopter over the town/city that was some distance from the army base and they saw huge numbers of creatures on the ground. Just seems very convinient that in season 3 the same massive city with a massive population of creatures is now one that people can move around in, whilst making lots of noise, without getting attacked.

Good episode, was skittles in it though? He was credited at the end, I don't recall him being in it though.

phill106 wrote: »

Good episode, was skittles in it though? He was credited at the end, I don't recall him being in it though.

He was one of the male voices in it at the second tower, think it was the guy in the camera room.. He would not have been called Skittles back then though as he only got that nickname from Angel/Pegs/Datu as they were on their way to the arena.

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DakotaYoda wrote: »

Holy SH@T they can talk - or at least one of them! The suited one perhaps??

It's neat to hear exactly what happened to Skittles/Duncan. I wonder why the Z's didn't eat him and left him alone?

Who knocked out Kilani? Zombies? Really? They used subdual instead of eating him? Wow... I'm guessing the pills he took were what made him tired/loopy when Michael and the crew found him. AND they can start fires? Again probably just the suited one, but geeze...

They also took Datu without killing him along with Samantha and everyone else they had in the arena so it is a tactic they have used in the past. We knew they could start fires, they had them lit all over the arena floor when Datu was being held in the arena.

Another whole week to go