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All Ireland League 2019-2020 Talk/Gossip/Rumours

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Ulster Senior Cup Quarter-Finals from the weekend:
    Belfast Harlequins 13 Rainey 45, Dungannon 36 Ballymena 31, Omagh 12 Ballynahinch 22, City Of Derry 5 Armagh 39


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Wesley Terenure senior league final Friday night

    Division 2 league semis: Belvedere Wanderers friday. Navan Blackrock Saturday

    Munster senior cup semis: Friday Young Munster v Cashel, Saturday Cork Con v Highfield
    Friendlies; Garryowen v UCC, Old Crescent v Clonmel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Club scene podcast back
    https://t.co/S47cvsMjCK?amp=1


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Gatekeeper23


    Club scene podcast back
    https://t.co/S47cvsMjCK?amp=1

    Many thanks for this.

    Just gave it a listen there. Terenure strongly tipped to lay down a marker this year?

    Naas tipped to go down after a stellar year last season? No mention of Belvo in the lads top 4 after their big injection of money and new pool of players?

    What are people's thoughts?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    Great Podcast.

    You'd Have to listen to the Leinster Clubs and say that Nure look strong. Lansdowne would be my tip for the top though. Both have Strength in depth.

    Naas have gone through some turmoil but Ballynahinch look weak enough and might have to rely on loan Ulster players which is never a good thing.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    I think Hinch and UCC in trouble in 1A, UCD will be able to survive. The magic number of 35 points always the target.

    Con, Tarf and LFC are going to be there or thereabouts, but as they said, Con might be in a state of flux losing a number of players - but they should be fine down there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭luke9311


    I think Hinch and UCC in trouble in 1A, UCD will be able to survive. The magic number of 35 points always the target.

    Con, Tarf and LFC are going to be there or thereabouts, but as they said, Con might be in a state of flux losing a number of players - but they should be fine down there.

    In regards to 1a I would have said the same top four be lfc con and tarf as usual then ur 4th team I feel is gonna be a toss up between garryowen or nure. Bottom two I feel be UCD and UCC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    I think Hinch and UCC in trouble in 1A, UCD will be able to survive. The magic number of 35 points always the target.

    Con, Tarf and LFC are going to be there or thereabouts, but as they said, Con might be in a state of flux losing a number of players - but they should be fine down there.
    Hopefully Hinch will stay up but agree they'll be in fight at bottom.


    Anyone going to a game this weekend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭luke9311


    Hopefully Hinch will stay up but agree they'll be in fight at bottom.


    Anyone going to a game this weekend?

    Had a look at the Wes and nurse game on Friday nurse a lot more physical throughout to be honest despite a the odd good play by Wes here and there but never got going really.. nure well deserved winners on the night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Con beat Highfield 23-17 in senior cup semi final and will play Munsters in final who beat Cashel 26-7

    In friendlies Garryowen beat UCC 33-12 and Crescent beat Clonmel 33-14


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    League starts next weekend
    would be great to see some large crowds at games. Shame in a sense irish game is thursday and not saturday.
    Like with Ireland Samoa hopefully lot of clubs do deals so people can watch the game in the club house as it kicks off 11.45am and then stay for lunch in club and watch AIL game then.

    Will try post some updates per division as week goes on including coaching changes summed up per division in one post as well as transfers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭stellenbosch


    I think Hinch and UCC in trouble in 1A, UCD will be able to survive. The magic number of 35 points always the target.

    Con, Tarf and LFC are going to be there or thereabouts, but as they said, Con might be in a state of flux losing a number of players - but they should be fine down there.

    Tarf lose Michael Courtney for 3 months with a broken finger-had surgery at the weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Dont know much about transfers for many clubs but here is how 1A sides have done in the provincial leagues/cups


    Ballynahinch
    Beat Queens then Omagh in senior cup. Narrowly beaten by Banbridge and Malone and well beaten by Rainey Old Boys in league.
    TerenureSean Skehan new head coach
    Comfortable winners over Marys and Clontarf and narrow win over UCD in league with 24-0 win over Wesley in league final. beat Lansdowne 23-7 in senior cup
    Cork Con
    same coaching team as last season.
    got bye to quarters in senior cup and beat Garryowen 9-7 before beating Highfield 23-17 and will play Munsters in final
    in charity cup beat dophin 43-0 before beating highfield 25-17 in final
    Garryowen
    same coaching teamShock defeat 6-5 to Bruff in Charity Cup and lost 9-7 to Con in senior cup quarter final
    Trinity
    Didnt play in Senior Cup and toured US. In League well beaten by Wesley but played middle of August so likely not as much time put in as Wesley at that time before wins over Lansdowne and Naas 
    UCC
    Didnt play in charity cup. beaten in quarter final of senior cup 30-29 by Highfield
    Lansdowne
    Hammered Naas, narrow win over Wesley. Narrow loss to Trinity in the League while in Cup lost to Terenure
    UCD
    New coaching team of Kevin Croke, Brett Igoe. Toured States over summer. Senior League beat Marys, narrowly lost to Terenure, well beaten by Clontarf. Senior cup comfortable win over Barnhall
    Young Munster
    Made a lot of signings. Stephen Carey moved in from Nenagh and part of 20s and senior coaching teams.Senior Cup beat Shannon 23-17 then in semi final beat Cashel 26-7 while in Charity Cup got bye to semi final and beat Nenagh 22-6 and will play Crescent in the final
    Clontarf
    Hammered by Terenure, narrow defeat to Marys and comfortable win against UCD in league


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭the baby bull elephant


    Clontarf lost to Marys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Clontarf lost to Marys.
    I know. was typo.

    Hopefully will get to more games, wider variety of clubs and across the divisions this season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    1B
    Armagh
    Willie Faloon remains head coach. unlucky in that theyre division 2 of provincial league mainly playing division2 AIL sides. comfortable win over Derry, high scoring win over Omagh and hammered Bangor. In senior cup beat Banbridge in close tie then hammered Derry in quarter final
    Banbridge
    Beaten by Armagh 10-3 in senior cup. Beat Ballynahinch, hammered Ballymena and narrowly lost to Malone in league.
    Highfield
    In Charity Cup beat Cashel 17-12 before losing final 25-17 to Con
    In Senior Cup beat UCC 30-29 in quarter final before losing 23-17 to Con
    Coaching team remains same as past few seasons with Tmmy Ryan etc
    Malone
    Chris Henry leads new coaching team. 
    In League beat Banbridge 13-10, Ballynahinch 23-22 and lost to Queens 32-13 while lost 30-20 to Dungannon in opening round of cup
    Naas
    Didnt win a game in senior league with big defeat against Lansdowne before close defeat to Trinity and Wesley. Didnt compete in senior cup
    Navan
    Bonus point win against Tullamore and drew with Greystones in league qualifying for division 2 semi final which they conceded against Blackrock.  Not taking part in senior cup.
    Old Belvedere
    Bonus point wins against Blackrock, Malahide and Skerries in division 2 senior league and beat Wanderers 20-13 to reach final which will be in new year against blackrock.
    Old Wesley
    Comfortable win against Trinity, Narrow win against Naas, close defeat against Lansdowne in senior league
    Shannon
    Hammered Dolphin before 6 point loss to Munsters in senior cup after a charity cup where they lost 20-14 to Crescent.Tadhg Bennett at the helm with Pat Brown and Mike Storey assisting  
    St Marys
    Well beaten by UCD and Terenure and a 31-25 win over Clontarf in senior league


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    Energia All-Ireland League

    Division 1A:
    Ballynahinch v Terenure College
    Cork Constitution v Garryowen
    Dublin University v UCC
    Lansdowne v UCD
    Young Munster v Clontarf

    Division 1B:
    City Of Armagh v Naas
    Highfield v Malone
    Navan v St. Mary’s College
    Old Wesley v Banbridge
    Shannon v Old Belvedere


  • Registered Users Posts: 50 ✭✭Gatekeeper23


    Stainalert wrote: »
    Energia All-Ireland League

    Division 1A:
    Ballynahinch v Terenure College - Terenure
    Cork Constitution v Garryowen - Cork Con
    Dublin University v UCC - DUFC
    Lansdowne v UCD - Lansdowne
    Young Munster v Clontarf - Clontarf

    Division 1B:
    City Of Armagh v Naas - Armagh
    Highfield v Malone - Highfield
    Navan v St. Mary’s College - Navan
    Old Wesley v Banbridge - Wesley
    Shannon v Old Belvedere - Belvo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭luke9311


    Reading the previews for 1a on the Irish rugby website says both brother lad Mick McGrath and rob left I knew Mick was gone to malahide but anyone know where rob has gone to? Malahide also or elsewhere I knew he had some involvement ages back with Barnhart for abit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Anyone going to a game tomorrow. Will be at wegians game ideally before connacht


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  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    luke9311 wrote: »
    Reading the previews for 1a on the Irish rugby website says both brother lad Mick McGrath and rob left I knew Mick was gone to malahide but anyone know where rob has gone to? Malahide also or elsewhere I knew he had some involvement ages back with Barnhart for abit?

    Rob McGrath gone to Coolmine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭realhorrorshow


    Anyone going to a game tomorrow. Will be at wegians game ideally before connacht

    Would love to make it to the Wegians game but I'm abroad. Keep an eye on Sibande on the right wing thought he looked really good in the Senior League game against Buccs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    Big wins for UCC, Tarf and Nure away in 1A today. UCD wont be the only team to get beat in LFC but big scoreline.

    A dreadful day weather wise, here's for a few drier ones this season!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    Is the fly half playing for Ballynahinch, the former Connacht underage player Sean O'Hagan?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 328 ✭✭luke9311


    Craig ronaldson was training with Leinster today dunno if he was just invited up to or is on a contract or what tho


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    Great Friday night lights game in Galway, brilliant win for Corinthians in the local derby. Tight enough at half time, but a great second half saw them pull away. Wish we had more of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    RobbieRuns wrote: »
    Great Friday night lights game in Galway, brilliant win for Corinthians in the local derby. Tight enough at half time, but a great second half saw them pull away. Wish we had more of them.
    Only when you win like that do you want more. Seemed to be great crowd at game from pics I've seen. What numbers were there do you think robbie?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭RobbieRuns


    Only when you win like that do you want more. Seemed to be great crowd at game from pics I've seen. What numbers were there do you think robbie?

    Would not be the greatest at forecasting numbers, close to a 1,000 maybe. The clubhouse side was packed, concrete steps were full of standing people. Local derby, Connacht playing away in Wales. Just a great night. Brilliant advert for AIL and local rugby. Just a great buzz, what I love to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    didn't get to an ail game today but results...

    1A
    Clontarf 25 Con 28, Garryowen 25 Lansdowne 24, Terenure 30 Young Munster 23, UCC 39 Ballynahinch 6, UCD 30 Trinity 19

    1B
    Bainbridge 28 Highfield 42, Malone 13 Shannon 32, Naas 10 Old Wesley 16, Mary's 14 Armagh 20, Belvedere 39 Navan 17

    2A
    Ballymena 26 Nenagh 26, Cashel 12 Barnhall 18, Crescent 27 Dolphin 10, Queens 33 Bohs 15, Rainey 34 Buccaneers 10

    2B
    Corinthians 30 Galwegians 13, BlackRock 27 Malahide 24, Greystones 47 Ballina 17, Sligo 45 Belfast Harlequins 14, Wanderers 29 Dungannon 24

    2C
    Bruff 31 Enniscorty 24, Midleton 26 Bangor 15, Omagh 20 Tullanore 14, Skerries 38 City of Derry 36, Sundays Well 20 Clonmel 17


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    LFC always find it hard in Limerick! Big wins for UCC, Con and UCD, and just incredible from Garryowen. Also, a special mention for Highfield, does anyone think they can make it to 1A? Would be a real shock.


  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Chico Flores


    That's fantastic by Highfield. Terenure's 2019 form on a stand alone calendar year has probably been best in all 1A

    Good start by Barnhall in 2A, they went last year unbeaten didn't they?

    Isn't there a mini break after this weekend, we should have a better handle on who is going well where etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    LFC always find it hard in Limerick! Big wins for UCC, Con and UCD, and just incredible from Garryowen. Also, a special mention for Highfield, does anyone think they can make it to 1A? Would be a real shock.
    highfield might. They've very good pack of forwards and some decent backs.

    And have one of strongest underage ser ups in province
    That's fantastic by Highfield. Terenure's 2019 form on a stand alone calendar year has probably been best in all 1A

    Good start by Barnhall in 2A, they went last year unbeaten didn't they?

    Isn't there a mini break after this weekend, we should have a better handle on who is going well where etc.
    yeah they went unbeaten in 2B. Their partnership with maynooth university really paying off so combined with strong underage set up they're doing well.
    Yeah week off after this weekends games then 3 more games a week off and final 3 games before Christmas


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Energia ail website isnt that bad. Will be interesting to see if this will get much traffic compared to just the irfu website

    https://www.energiaail.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    TONIGHT

    1A
    CLONTARF v TERENURE - Tasty fixture - I think Terenure might sneak it


    SATURDAY
    1A

    BALLYNAHINCH V UCD - Big improvement from UCD last week and think their form will see them through

    DUBLIN UNIVERSITY V GARRYOWEN - Trinity need to get going and I think they will do that

    YOUNG MUNSTER V U.C.C. - League leaders UCC with a real test of their title credentials in a tough venue - Young Munster

    CORK CONSTITUTION V LANSDOWNE - Not the happiest hunting ground for us, hoping we can improve on last week

    1B

    CITY OF ARMAGH V OLD BELVEDERE - 2 of the form teams so far in 1B. Think home advantage will tell

    HIGHFIELD V NAAS - Highfield will have too much for Naas up front

    SHANNON V NAVAN - Navan will be desperate to get a win and think that could be the difference

    MALONE V BANBRIDGE - Seems to be a lot of change in Malone, they need to settle soon. Fancy Banbridge

    OLD WESLEY V ST MARY'S - Expect Old Wesley's good early form to continue with a win here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    I'm working in Dublin tomorrow night but not sure I'll get to a game as want to watch Irish game as well and unless I watch elsewhere and not at home cant do both

    Anyway division2 fixtures.....

    2A
    Buccaneers v Ballymena
    Cashel v Old Crescent
    Barnhall v Nenagh
    Dolphin v Queens
    Bohs v Rainey

    2B
    Belfast Harlequins v Corinthians
    Dungannon v Malahide
    Galwegians v Greystones
    Wanderers v Sligo
    Ballina v Blackrock

    2C
    Bangor v Clonmel
    City of Derry v Omagh
    Midleton v Bruff
    Tullamore v Sundays Well
    Enniscorthy v Skerries


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    1A

    Garryowen v Ballynahinch - Garryowen to win well

    Lansdowne v Dublin University - We need a win - lost to Trinity earlier in the season in the Leinster League

    Terenure College v Cork Constitution - Terenure energy will win this

    UCC v Clontarf - Tarf to sneak through

    UCD v Young Munster - UCD to keep winning


    1B

    Naas v Malone - Naas to break their duck

    Navan v City Of Armagh - Armagh to win well

    Old Belvedere v Old Wesley - Game of the day - Think Wesley will have too much for Belvo

    St. Mary’s College v Highfield - Highfield will have too much power up front for Marys

    Banbridge v Shannon - Shannon to win on the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    UCC are in good form, it'll be a big win for us if we can grab 4 points away from home against them. Not had the best start scraping past YM then losing back to back against Terenure and Cork Con.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    2A
    Ballymena v UL Bohs
    Nenagh v Buccaneers
    Old Crescent v Barnhall
    Queens v Cashel
    Rainey v Dolphin

    2B
    Blackrock v Galwegians
    Corinthians v Wanderers
    Greystones v Belfast Harlequins
    Malahide v Ballina
    Sligo v Dungannon

    2C
    Bruff v Bangor
    Clonmel v Tullamore
    Omagh v Enniscorthy
    Skerries v Midleton
    Sundays Well v City of Derry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    Big win for trinity. Only saw end of first and then the second half
    13-11 with late drop goal to get the win.
    Lansdowne didn't score after 25th minute or so


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,721 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Big win for Clontarf down in UCC, finished up 27-20


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Con going to Lakelands and beating Terenure as well.

    Wide open now with UCC and Lansdowne both losing to Tarf and Trinity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    What a league. Some great rugby played in dire conditions across the country. Hinch in big trouble already. Good result for YM coming up and getting 2 points in Belfield but they need to pick up more points and quick.

    Highfield again, would love to see them in 1A. What a rise through the ranks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    Ref may as well have worn a Con jersey today in Lakelands he was absolutely brutal.

    Weather completely suited Con and Sean French kicked a brilliant penalty 5 from the end to win it for them. Not a game for running rugby we all really want to see but was enthralling to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    What a league. Some great rugby played in dire conditions across the country. Hinch in big trouble already. Good result for YM coming up and getting 2 points in Belfield but they need to pick up more points and quick.

    Highfield again, would love to see them in 1A. What a rise through the ranks.
    great thing about Highfield is so many players are homengrown having came through their minis and then youths set up
    Even James Cronin. From ballincollig and moved to them for 18s and won a Munster and all Ireland in the process
    A lot of clubs should look to emulate a lot of what they do. Really good pack with timmy Ryan doing well with their pac


  • Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭ArmchairQB


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Ref may as well have worn a Con jersey today in Lakelands he was absolutely brutal.

    Weather completely suited Con and Sean French kicked a brilliant penalty 5 from the end to win it for them. Not a game for running rugby we all really want to see but was enthralling to watch.


    Have to say & don't like saying but the standard of refereeing at 1a & 1b levels I have watched matches at this season is well below standard expected. Some don't even know the rules at AIL level. Seems to worse this year than previous. Scrums are a lottery no one knows what the ref is going to call and offside is rarely policed. Their positioning is shocking often in the way they don't know where to stand. Have watched 3 1a & 2 1b games and only 2 refs were of expected standard and resulted in 2 good flowing games which does the club game no favours at all and puts me off going to games


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭FellasFellas


    ArmchairQB wrote: »
    Have to say & don't like saying but the standard of refereeing at 1a & 1b levels I have watched matches at this season is well below standard expected. Some don't even know the rules at AIL level. Seems to worse this year than previous. Scrums are a lottery no one knows what the ref is going to call and offside is rarely policed. Their positioning is shocking often in the way they don't know where to stand. Have watched 3 1a & 2 1b games and only 2 refs were of expected standard and resulted in 2 good flowing games which does the club game no favours at all and puts me off going to games

    The frustrating thing is, some of the officials are refs who have refereed at international level and they still struggle with 1A. Makes no sense, if an international referee turns up to do a 1A game, you expect the best officiating, it's laughable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭Stainalert


    1A

    Young Munster v Garryowen
    Ballynahinch v Lansdowne
    Clontarf v UCD
    Cork Constitution v Dublin University
    Terenure College v UCC

    1B
    Shannon v City Of Armagh
    Banbridge v Naas
    Highfield v Old Belvedere
    Malone v St. Mary’s College
    Old Wesley v Navan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭The Lost Sheep


    3 games tonight. At connacht game so not at one of the games in limerick but may see some of the shannon game on back pitch before the Munster game tomorrow

    Full fixtures
    https://www.irishrugby.ie/all-ireland-leagues/men/fixtures-results/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    Haven't heard of any games being called off today which is a pleasant surprise. Closest I've heard is Malone Mary's was moved to the back pitch up in Malone.


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