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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Mean Laqueefa


    joeguevara wrote: »
    I used to love his antics and his promotion was amazing. Hoping he will reinvent himself but people aren't as willing to laugh it off when he steps out of line. I thought the towel comment was hilarious but for a guy who has already been accused of racism, who is dealing with the other thing, who flipped the lid with the mobile and after increased tensions with the NZ attack it didn't come across as funny as I assume he meant.

    But, it is strange (and this has nothing to do with you) when people say they are trying not to hear about him but are on a thread specifically devoted to him.

    His tweet today complimenting the two fighters from last night while showing a touch of class was so obviously not from him that it was laughable. The construction of the sentences, the tone and obvious absence of anything cheeky or self promotion amplified the fact that it was someone else. I hope this is the start of his management shielding him from the public channels let's hope it goes further and not allowing him out with yes men who guide him into trouble.

    I don't want a reinvention of a sterile airbrushed version but at the same time I don't want to continue to see him coming across as a lout.

    got a chuckle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    xtal191 wrote: »
    It should really be Conor vs Ferguson next, winner fights the winner of last night vs Khabib
    Ferguson isn't cleared to fight atm as far as we know.
    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Probably because he used to know when to/ and was willing to turn off his gimmick. Now he's in gimmick 24/7 and he's become insufferable because of it.
    I get that he's in gimmick mode most of the time. But don't understand why people switch off their own brains because of that.
    joeguevara wrote: »
    His tweet today complimenting the two fighters from last night while showing a touch of class was so obviously not from him that it was laughable. The construction of the sentences, the tone and obvious absence of anything cheeky or self promotion amplified the fact that it was someone else. I hope this is the start of his management shielding him from the public channels let's hope it goes further and not allowing him out with yes men who guide him into trouble.
    Somebody commented under the post that it must no have been him, and the reply sounded like it was him tbh. I don't think complimenting either guys after that fight is out of the question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Conor has been very complimentary about other fighters/fights in the past, including on twitter.

    I find the notion that he didn't write it because it's complementary absurd. It's not like the tweet is impeccably written or anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Mellor wrote: »
    Somebody commented under the post that it must no have been him

    That was Tony Ferguson :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Mellor wrote: »
    Ferguson isn't cleared to fight atm as far as we know.


    I get that he's in gimmick mode most of the time. But don't understand why people switch off their own brains because of that.


    Somebody commented under the post that it must no have been him, and the reply sounded like it was him tbh. I don't think complimenting either guys after that fight is out of the question.

    Yeah I saw the reply. But the original post was so differently constructed than anything else I have seen him post before, I believe it wasn't him. While it is not out of the question to compliment both fighters, if it was him he would have done it in a way to include him or jibe someone else. Remember this comes days after he posted about 16 pics battering mallinagi, Either it was someone else posting or he is being directed what to write. The former being much more likely.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Yeah I saw the reply. But the original post was so differently constructed than anything else I have seen him post before, I believe it wasn't him. While it is not out of the question to compliment both fighters, if it was him he would have done it in a way to include him or jibe someone else. Remember this comes days after he posted about 16 pics battering mallinagi, Either it was someone else posting or he is being directed what to write. The former being much more likely.

    He has beef with Pauli. Thats different. He doesn't with most of the roster.

    And what makes you think he can't compliment a fighter without giving a jibe? What are you basing that on?

    He has a history of tweeting congrats to fighters of cards he isn't a part of. I don't follow him on Twitter but his tweets are always posted on forums I visit. I've seen dozens of him complimenting fighters after fights over the past few years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Kirby wrote: »
    He has beef with Pauli. Thats different. He doesn't with most of the roster.

    And what makes you think he can't compliment a fighter without giving a jibe? What are you basing that on?

    He has a history of tweeting congrats to fighters of cards he isn't a part of. I don't follow him on Twitter but his tweets are always posted on forums I visit. I've seen dozens of him complimenting fighters after fights over the past few years.

    I don't think it was him not because it was complimentary but because of the way it was constructed and read. Just didn't feel like him. I don't think jibe was the correct word to use. I meant that there is usually an agenda or at least creating an opportunity for him.

    He has complimented fighters in the past but in a different type of way. Holloway is a good example of this. I might be completely wrong but it just seemed to e a different type of post than what we are used to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Either it was someone else posting or he is being directed what to write. The former being much more likely.
    Or he it was him. Not sure why that’s impossible.
    He comments on fights a lot. Maybe he was watching the fights and had the same reaction as all of us.
    (Spoiler Warning for UFC 236)
    To be clear we are talking about this tweet.
    The ESPN+ tweets were obvious promoted/sponsored by ESPN.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Mellor wrote: »
    Or he it was him. Not sure why that’s impossible.
    He comments on fights a lot. Maybe he was watching the fights and had the same reaction as all of us.
    (Spoiler Warning for UFC 236)
    To be clear we are talking about this tweet.
    The ESPN+ tweets were obvious promoted/sponsored by ESPN.

    Yes that is the tweet. Has he ever predicted the next fight for a fighter that wasn't him.?

    To me it just seemed too well intentioned and didn't include something like 'I sonned him' or a reference to not forget he beat them both. I have been thinking about it though and maybe it was pure genius by Conor who in apparent genuine and professionalism is setting himself up for khabib rematch by pointing Dustin towards Nate.

    Ah, I just am happy that it's not about proper 12 or anything else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Yes that is the tweet. Has he ever predicted the next fight for a fighter that wasn't him.?

    To me it just seemed too well intentioned and didn't include something like 'I sonned him' or a reference to not forget he beat them both. I have been thinking about it though and maybe it was pure genius by Conor who in apparent genuine and professionalism is setting himself up for khabib rematch by pointing Dustin towards Nate.

    Ah, I just am happy that it's not about proper 12 or anything else.
    He is referring to the fight that was scheduled between Dustin and Nate for UFC 230. If Dustin is interesting in fighting before September, it kinda makes sense. Nate would jump at it imo.

    As for getting in a dig about beating them both. I honestly don't think he'd kick a fighter when he was down. Max's 5 year unbeaten run had just ended.
    He posted something thoughtful and professional when Max pulled out of the Ortega fight


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Mellor wrote: »
    He is referring to the fight that was scheduled between Dustin and Nate for UFC 230. If Dustin is interesting in fighting before September, it kinda makes sense. Nate would jump at it imo.

    As for getting in a dig about beating them both. I honestly don't think he'd kick a fighter when he was down. Max's 5 year unbeaten run had just ended.
    He posted something thoughtful and professional when Max pulled out of the Ortega fight

    Nate v Dustin doesn't make any sense at all!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fitzparker


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    I don't follow him. You can't help but hear about him. Everytime Conor says or does something stupid MMA forums and news site light up like a Christmas tree.

    But you follow the "Official Conor McGregor thread (part 7)", if you unfollow this it is one less thing to look at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Nate v Dustin doesn't make any sense at all!!

    It does to a man who is trying to keep Dustin away from his attempts to get a rematch with Khabib.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Tomas81


    Not a big MMA fan, Just like to follow Conor.

    Can anyone tell me is he retired, Gearing up for negotiations or whats going on?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Tomas81 wrote: »
    Not a big MMA fan, Just like to follow Conor.

    Can anyone tell me is he retired, Gearing up for negotiations or whats going on?

    Any talk of McGregor retiring is likely just being used as a negotiation tactic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Tomas81


    Any talk of McGregor retiring is likely just being used as a negotiation tactic.

    Thought as much, but wasnt sure. I dont enjoy his behaviour but I have to admit the month leading to a Conor fight is great online between pressers and weigh ins and the exchanges. Dustin and Max build up was so low key, Even Jones And Gus was low key.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Nate v Dustin doesn't make any sense at all!!
    It was booked for UFC230 late last year.
    But Dustin got injured.

    dustin-poirier-nate-diaz-25-presser1.jpg

    There's a severe lack of availible top LWs.
    Khabib is out. Tony and Conor are AWOL.
    He's beaten Gaethje recently. Cowboy and Iaquinta are booked.
    We into the likes of Felder and Oliveira after that. Personally I think Nate makes more sense than those guys. Not so much on his merits but due to the lack of a credible alternative.

    Obviously, he's perfectly entitled to sit out. I just meant if Khabib isn't planning to fight for a while


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Tomas81 wrote: »
    Thought as much, but wasnt sure. I dont enjoy his behaviour but I have to admit the month leading to a Conor fight is great online between pressers and weigh ins and the exchanges. Dustin and Max build up was so low key, Even Jones And Gus was low key.

    The build up for a McGregor fight is something else alright. I hope he books something soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Mellor wrote: »

    Obviously, he's perfectly entitled to sit out. I just meant if Khabib isn't planning to fight for a while

    Khabib can fight in the summer. Poirier deserves that fight. If Khabib won't fight by then he'll be stripped.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Tomas81


    The Nal wrote: »
    Khabib can fight in the summer. Poirier deserves that fight. If Khabib won't fight by then he'll be stripped.

    Ramadan finishes june, , he won't camo through it so he that will rule him out till earliest August.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Tomas81 wrote: »
    Ramadan finishes june, , he won't camo through it so he that will rule him out till earliest August.

    Yeah seems to be loosely arranged for September as per Khabib and Dana.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    I like Poirier a lot but I think stylistically he won't have much for Khabib. Prefer to see Conor Poirier but can't see that happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    He can fight again from the of 6th July. But I doubt he will.
    He initially said he wasn't going to fight until October (or later) when the other bans were up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    September 7th. Khabib Vs Dustin.

    Conor will fight Lord Nathan of Stockton in August.

    Mark it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    If it does end up being the trilogy, I reckon he'll pick Diaz apart.

    Whatever about ring rust for McG, Diaz hasn't fought in 4 years.

    I'd still love to see Holloway McG at 155.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Diaz hasn't fought in 3 years, is ranked 15th. Any of the top 10 including Felder, Gillespie ect make more sense for Dustin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,184 ✭✭✭✭Pighead


    Diaz hasn't fought in 3 years, is ranked 15th. Any of the top 10 including Felder, Gillespie ect make more sense for Dustin.
    Make more sense in what way? Definitely not financially and given that the UFC is a business the financial part of it is pretty important. Dustin V Nate does a hell of a lot more buys than Dustin V Felder or pretty much anybody outside the top 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Diaz is ranked 15th on activity not ability.
    People are always complaining that the rankings make no sense. So kinda hard to make the case that they decide the fights.
    I'm going by the fight I want to see, not the rankings. But each to their own


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Mellor wrote: »
    Diaz is ranked 15th on activity not ability.
    People are always complaining that the rankings make no sense. So kinda hard to make the case that they decide the fights.
    I'm going by the fight I want to see, not the rankings. But each to their own

    Hes ranked 15 because hes had 18 fights in the last ten years and lost 9 of them. Conor aside, the only person of note hes ever beaten is Cerrone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    Mellor wrote: »
    Diaz is ranked 15th on activity not ability.
    People are always complaining that the rankings make no sense. So kinda hard to make the case that they decide the fights.
    I'm going by the fight I want to see, not the rankings. But each to their own

    20-11 would suggest it's not inactivity. He mysteriously shot up the Rankin's when fighting McGregor at 170lbs. He should be no where near a title shot in such a staked division


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Fighting Khabib is a title shot.
    Fighting Dustin isn't, imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Dustin won't be fighting Nate anyway so it's immaterial.

    Dustin, for better or worse, was given a shot an an interim title, the only logic next fight for him is Khabib to unify.

    Expecting people to defend interim titles is top tier idiocy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Great fight between Poirier/Holloway ....but standing like that McGegror beats both again ......in the same night I might add


    Poirier wouldn't last 2 rounds with Khabib


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Fall_Guy


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Great fight between Poirier/Holloway ....but standing like that McGegror beats both again ......in the same night I might add


    Poirier wouldn't last 2 rounds with Khabib

    Why is it you think he wouldn't last 2 rounds with khabib?? It took khabib 4 rounds to take out McGregor, who hasn't shown himself to have as strong a ground game or gas tank as Poirier. Poirier, like McGregor, is technically a better striker than Khabib, while having a stronger ground game and gas tank than McGregor.

    I think it would be more likely that Khabib would score a clear decision win than blow him away in a couple of rounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭pastorbarrett


    September 7th. Khabib Vs Dustin.

    Conor will fight Lord Nathan of Stockton in August.

    Mark it down.

    Seems like an unnecessary time to cash that cheque?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Great fight between Poirier/Holloway ....but standing like that McGegror beats both again ......in the same night I might add


    Poirier wouldn't last 2 rounds with Khabib

    Wow, what a load of complete tripe.


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    Dustin won't be fighting Nate anyway so it's immaterial.

    Dustin, for better or worse, was given a shot an an interim title, the only logic next fight for him is Khabib to unify.

    Expecting people to defend interim titles is top tier idiocy.

    If I was Dustin Id be ready for the title fight at any moment because if he turns it down even once (Even for a valid reason) they'll give the fight to someone else.

    Did you by any chance see Dana constantly changing the topic when Dustin was mentioned in an interview after the fight? He seemed so bummed Dustin won.

    edit: Here is the link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvXJUIL_ql0


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Wow, what a load of complete tripe.

    What part, to be fair?

    If McGregor was on point (and that to be honest, is debatable right now) then it's not unreasonable to think he would be able to beat either.

    Max isn't a power puncher, he relies on volume and precision to wear down opponents (ala Ortega).

    Dustin is much stronger, but he still doesn't have the KO power that McGregor has (or, admittedly, had, depending).

    Based on that performance, amazing as it was, it's not unreasonable to think a tuned-in McGregor would beat either with his excellent boxing and KO power. Not saying it's a done deal or anything close, but it's not an unreasonable assertion either.

    The Khabib side of it, I'd be more inclined to agree. Dustin doesn't bring anything to a fight that Conor didn't (on paper), and I could see his striking being negated by Khabibs wrestling/fear of being taken down.

    Either way, Conor v Porier/Max, or Khabib v Porier, would be an incredibly good match up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    If I was Dustin Id be ready for the title fight at any moment because if he turns it down even once (Even for a valid reason) they'll give the fight to someone else.

    Did you by any chance see Dana constantly changing the topic when Dustin was mentioned in an interview after the fight? He seemed so bummed Dustin won.

    edit: Here is the link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvXJUIL_ql0

    I'd say he was creaming at the prospect of Max becoming the next Champ Champ in the making.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,280 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    What part, to be fair?

    If McGregor was on point (and that to be honest, is debatable right now) then it's not unreasonable to think he would be able to beat either.

    Max isn't a power puncher, he relies on volume and precision to wear down opponents (ala Ortega).

    Dustin is much stronger, but he still doesn't have the KO power that McGregor has (or, admittedly, had, depending).

    Based on that performance, amazing as it was, it's not unreasonable to think a tuned-in McGregor would beat either with his excellent boxing and KO power. Not saying it's a done deal or anything close, but it's not an unreasonable assertion either.

    The Khabib side of it, I'd be more inclined to agree. Dustin doesn't bring anything to a fight that Conor didn't (on paper), and I could see his striking being negated by Khabibs wrestling/fear of being taken down.

    Either way, Conor v Porier/Max, or Khabib v Porier, would be an incredibly good match up.

    The stupid hyperbole that Conor has such an advantage he could beat both in one night. Or that Dustin couldn’t possibly last two rounds with Khabib yet far worse fighters have taken him further. Just a stupid post.

    It’s so impossible to tell what kind of McGregor will show up in the future. Personally I think it’s very unlikely he gets back to previous levels of the Alvarez fight. (Which I think was his best performance)
    Also his power against bigger more durable guys at 155 isn’t fully proven to be the same weapon it was at 145.

    Dustin has a better ground game than Conor. God knows if it’s enough to get back to his feet or attack a sub vs Khabib but between that, his striking and his heart it’s a fight I wanna see.

    Any of those guys you mention fighting would be awesome.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Dustin won't be fighting Nate anyway so it's immaterial.

    Dustin, for better or worse, was given a shot an an interim title, the only logic next fight for him is Khabib to unify.

    Expecting people to defend interim titles is top tier idiocy.
    I don't think the UFC or anyone has said they expect Dustin to defend.
    But I think he fair that he retains the option to keep earning it Khabib is not fighting.

    If it's September, I'm sure he'll wait. But is September locked it? I'm surprised Khabib went back on his promise to stand with his teammates. It seem like something he felt strongly about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Subcomandante Marcos


    Mellor wrote: »
    I don't think the UFC or anyone has said they expect Dustin to defend.
    But I think he fair that he retains the option to keep earning it Khabib is not fighting.

    If it's September, I'm sure he'll wait. But is September locked it? I'm surprised Khabib went back on his promise to stand with his teammates. It seem like something he felt strongly about.

    Nothing is locked in until the cage is locked behind the two lads in fairness, but I'd be stunned if they don't headline a card on September 7th.
    Apparently Khabib sees that as keeping his word as the other could be in camp for their next fight when he has his fight in September. It's Dagestan logic.

    He's basically confirmed a "leak" from a source that has largely been right about his and other Dagestani fighters up till now by saying "I'll see you in September Dustin".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,602 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Nothing is locked in until the cage is locked behind the two lads in fairness, but I'd be stunned if they don't headline a card on September 7th.
    Yeah of course, especially with Khabibs injury history. I meant locked in a signed/booked or some sort of official indication from the UFC other than Dana saying it "makes sense".

    Apparently Khabib sees that as keeping his word as the other could be in camp for their next fight when he has his fight in September. It's Dagestan logic.
    I suppose if Khabib has negotiated a deal where they are booked for October as soon as the ban is up that's not totally insane logic.
    But otherwise they aren't fight until the new year and he looks to have bailed.
    He's basically confirmed a "leak" from a source that has largely been right about his and other Dagestani fighters up till now by saying "I'll see you in September Dustin".
    That's good enough for me. I know the source you mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 605 ✭✭✭pastorbarrett


    Tony, if to be believed, hinting he was offered Conor. Certainly more plausible than a Nate match-up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 407 ✭✭Tomas81


    Tony, if to be believed, hinting he was offered Conor. Certainly more plausible than a Nate match-up.

    Is Tony not suffering from Delusional thought at moment. His wife has a restraining order as he thought the CIA had a chip in his leg.

    What Tony is hinting at is I'd say Dublin to Timbuktu from the truth


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    Tony, if to be believed, hinting he was offered Conor. Certainly more plausible than a Nate match-up.

    Ali Abdelaziz also said McGregor was offered Gaethje. It both offers are on the table I assume they'll go with Ferguson due to the management link.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Ferguson should be getting Khabib o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Ferguson should be getting Khabib o

    Before the interim champ? Really?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,942 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Ferguson should be fighting either Khabib or Poirier. He deserves his shot for a belt more than anybody.
    If they really want Khabib/McGregor 2 then it should be Ferguson vs Khabib and McGregor vs Poirier.
    Are they all running scared of Tony?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,464 ✭✭✭Ultimate Seduction


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Ferguson should be fighting either Khabib or Poirier. He deserves his shot for a belt more than anybody.
    If they really want Khabib/McGregor 2 then it should be Ferguson vs Khabib and McGregor vs Poirier.
    Are they all running scared of Tony?

    So the interim champ should defend his belt against someone else while the undisputed defendes against someone else?

    Give your head a shake man


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