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  • #152
    sea12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,244 ✭✭✭sea12


    Base price wrote: »
    Eventually got both areas sown, harrowed (yesterday) and fertilised and rolled today. I was driving out with the roller from the last area this afternoon when the rain arrived. A neighbour was supposed to broadcast the seed for us but couldn't due to a relatives death and gave us a loan of his wagtail. No problems with the oats but the linseed was difficult. We didn't use a carrier and set the wagtail at the setting that he told us. I could hardly see a blue seed anywhere so we upped the settings. We used 75Kgs in just over 2 hectares :eek:
    Crows & Jackdaws are a problem and we were up this morning with the shotguns. Seems perverse that one is attempting to scare away crows in order for the seed to grow for "wild birds"!!

    Great looking soil there base. I'd say it will be a great crop for the birds


  • #153
    Capercaillie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Capercaillie


    sea12 wrote: »
    Great looking soil there base. I'd say it will be a great crop for the birds
    + brilliant hedgerows for threatened yellowhammers. Will make a big difference


  • #154
    djmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭djmc


    Water John wrote: »
    djmc, that's sounds like a grudge against crows. Is it only your bales are attacked or have they just got a mean streak against humans in general?

    Not at all I actually like all wildlife
    Some are able to adjust to change and thrive better than others.
    I just keep animal feed locked away as best I can.
    Don't know why they tear bales but it's not just mine.

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=feck+off+crows&rlz=1Y3KTZR_enIE561IE561&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjumtPuuJPNAhViDcAKHfYvCyoQ_AUIBygB&biw=1280&bih=800#imgrc=-Vq6SCNkumHbFM%3A


  • #155
    I said
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    Can ya cut silage of low input pastures after 15th of July the fcuking place is gone mad with grass


  • #156
    Muckit
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    Same as that but the official answer is no!


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  • #157
    50HX
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    I said wrote: »
    Can ya cut silage of low input pastures after 15th of July the fcuking place is gone mad with grass


    topped but not mowed for silage

    same boat here

    think the setting on the bar dropped a little bit too low yestarday by mistake;)

    try to keep to the rules as best as i can but with grass mad have to do something


  • #158
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭High bike


    I said wrote: »
    Can ya cut silage of low input pastures after 15th of July the fcuking place is gone mad with grass
    i know where you'd get a few nice stores to control that grass growth for ya:rolleyes:


  • #159
    I said
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    High bike wrote: »
    i know where you'd get a few nice stores to control that grass growth for ya:rolleyes:

    Yer alright sir might go back to set stocking for a while


  • #160
    TPF2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭TPF2012


    Just about to sow oats and mustard for the wbc. What fertiliser if any did you put out? Wasn't going to put any on it but speaking to contractor, thinking of putting a bag of 10 10 20 to the acre here now.


  • #161
    Capercaillie
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    TPF2012 wrote: »
    Just about to sow oats and mustard for the wbc. What fertiliser if any did you put out? Wasn't going to put any on it but speaking to contractor, thinking of putting a bag of 10 10 20 to the acre here now.
    I put 10-10-20 at 100kg/Acre on my Triticale/mustard/kale at planting (May 6th). Gave it a shake of 10-10-20 at weekend as well


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  • #162
    Base price
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    TPF2012 wrote: »
    Just about to sow oats and mustard for the wbc. What fertiliser if any did you put out? Wasn't going to put any on it but speaking to contractor, thinking of putting a bag of 10 10 20 to the acre here now.
    We put a bag of 10-10-20 to the acre - oats and linseed on the weekend.


  • #163
    limo_100
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    Capercaillie wrote: »
    I put 10-10-20 at 100kg/Acre on my Triticale/mustard/kale at planting (May 6th). Gave it a shake of 10-10-20 at weekend as well

    yours is a month planted how did it do for you? Ours is planted two weeks this friday linseed and oats, theres no sign of the oats but the place in covered in linseed put out no fertilizer yet was told I'd crush the seed


  • #164
    Capercaillie
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    limo_100 wrote: »
    yours is a month planted how did it do for you? Ours is planted two weeks this friday linseed and oats, theres no sign of the oats but the place in covered in linseed put out no fertilizer yet was told I'd crush the seed
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=99938300&postcount=147
    Photo in link. It was dry when I planted, good load of rain the next day and sunny ever since. Growing well. I spread by seed fiddle and contractor spread fertiliser when he was doing hay meadows.
    How will fertiser crush the seed?


  • #165
    Water John
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    I presume they mean the wheels of the tractor. I would always be hesitant of driving on any crop after sprouting, until the true leaves are established.


  • #166
    jimmy G M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    TPF2012 wrote: »
    Wasn't going to put any on it but speaking to contractor, thinking of putting a bag of 10 10 20 to the acre here now.

    Why are you putting fert out? What did contractor say? I wasn't going to bother with fert at all to save a few bob.


  • #167
    Capercaillie
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    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Why are you putting fert out? What did contractor say? I wasn't going to bother with fert at all to save a few bob.
    better seed crop for wild birds!


  • #168
    TPF2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 344 ✭✭TPF2012


    jimmy G M wrote: »
    Why are you putting fert out? What did contractor say? I wasn't going to bother with fert at all to save a few bob.

    I wasn't going to put any out as well, but my planner and contractor said the ground might need some and I reluctantly got half a ton of 10 10 20.


  • #169
    djmc
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    Did anyone get the glas part payment that was due in may for the last three months of last year?


  • #170
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    No l didn't. So I rang glas and they said next payment going out this month and 'should' get it then!


  • #171
    Rushy Fields
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    I'm going sowing oats and linseed today or tomorrow. Going using a wagtail spreader. Never seeded anything before so fingers crossed!! My question is to you who have experience in doing this is.... Do i have to mix the oats with fertilizer or can i spread it on its own?. I know i need to mix linseed with fert because the seed is so small. Can i use replenish fert or does it have to be 10.10.20?


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  • #172
    limo_100
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    nealger wrote: »
    I'm going sowing oats and linseed today or tomorrow. Going using a wagtail spreader. Never seeded anything before so fingers crossed!! My question is to you who have experience in doing this is.... Do i have to mix the oats with fertilizer or can i spread it on its own?. I know i need to mix linseed with fert because the seed is so small. Can i use replenish fert or does it have to be 10.10.20?

    we got our seed spread with the contractor he spread the oats first then closed it up and spread the linseed didn't mix any of it with fertilizer


  • #173
    jimmy G M
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭jimmy G M


    nealger wrote: »
    I'm going sowing oats and linseed today or tomorrow. Going using a wagtail spreader. Never seeded anything before so fingers crossed!! My question is to you who have experience in doing this is.... Do i have to mix the oats with fertilizer or can i spread it on its own?. I know i need to mix linseed with fert because the seed is so small. Can i use replenish fert or does it have to be 10.10.20?


    You can spread away with the oats without any fertiliser mixed in.

    I generally mix a bag of fert in with smaller type seeds such as linseed etc. Mix enough to do an acre in with a bag of manure and off you go. If not sure of settings etc, put in a bag of manure and practice on an acre of grass till you are happy with settings. driving width, speed etc. When you get confident you can do enough for 2/3 acres at a time. Write down the settings so you have them for next year.


    Replenish should be fine for mixing if 10.10.20 not available.


  • #174
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    https://woodlandantics.wordpress.com/tag/hay-making/

    Nice article on haymaking in England.


  • #175
    limo_100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Muckit wrote: »
    https://woodlandantics.wordpress.com/tag/hay-making/

    Nice article on haymaking in England.

    Are you doing the hay meadows?


  • #176
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    limo_100 wrote: »
    Are you doing the hay meadows?

    No I'm not. If we got summer weather like this consistently for the next 5 years l would!

    I put in for LIPP. A pity that this ground can't be cut for traditional hay meadow even after July 15th.


  • #177
    50HX
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    Muckit wrote: »
    https://woodlandantics.wordpress.com/tag/hay-making/

    Nice article on haymaking in England.


    jasus with a crew like that for baling he should be headin to the bog as well with em:)


  • #178
    High bike
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    Just wondering did anyone have any glas inspections yet?


  • #179
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Yes. Had one at the end of March.


  • #180
    Base price
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    Muckit wrote: »
    No I'm not. If we got summer weather like this consistently for the next 5 years l would!

    I put in for LIPP. A pity that this ground can't be cut for traditional hay meadow even after July 15th.
    Oh how I wish they would allow it. One field is way too strong for the older calves and the last of the bulls were sold a couple of weeks ago so no big mouths to eat it. The grass growth here is way ahead of normal years due to the weather.


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  • #181
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    salasdel2016 wrote: »
    They they look at LIPP?

    Yes walked every bit of it. Went through all my measures. Got a call on lunchtime and he was out the next morning.


  • #182
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭High bike


    Muckit wrote: »
    Yes walked every bit of it. Went through all my measures. Got a call on lunchtime and he was out the next morning.
    jaysus didn't think they'd be that particular about it,


  • #183
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    High bike wrote: »
    jaysus didn't think they'd be that particular about it,

    Sure l suppose that's their job. If they weren't doing their job lads would be complaining too.


  • #184
    Alibaba
    Registered Users Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Alibaba


    High bike wrote: »
    jaysus didn't think they'd be that particular about it,

    Ya that's their job.

    Once we do everything right there's nothing to worry about.


  • #185
    High bike
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    Alibaba wrote: »
    Ya that's their job.

    Once we do everything right there's nothing to worry about.
    pity the crowd in Portlaoise weren't as efficient about getting payments out on time


  • #186
    Base price
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    This evening OH and I walked through both areas of wbc that were sown last weekend. It seems that the flax (linseed) is striking better than the oat seed. We have had a severe problem with crows/jackdaws stealing the oat seeds.
    Question - what is the penalty vis a vie the proportion of oats V linseed established per hectare?


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  • #187
    limo_100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Base price wrote: »
    This evening OH and I walked through both areas of wbc that were sown last weekend. It seems that the flax (linseed) is striking better than the oat seed. We have had a severe problem with crows/jackdaws stealing the oat seeds.
    Question - what is the penalty vis a vie the proportion of oats V linseed established per hectare?

    I'm the exact same linseed absolutely flying oats only appearing here and there, Was thinking of going with 3bags of 18-6-12 to try and give it a boost. what you think?


  • #188
    Water John
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    Bigger seed, slower to germinate. Possibly planted deeper also.


  • #189
    Rushy Fields
    Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭Rushy Fields


    will the oats germinate if they are just put out with wagtail and not planted deeper.?
    Not toomany birds at seed yet. the odd few but no major problem wit them yet!!


  • #190
    Water John
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    With the rain the oats should be ok. Ideally, oats and linseed set separately. Oats first and lightly harrowed. Linseed follows and rolling should be sufficient.
    Same as undersowing, my recipie.


  • #191
    Rushy Fields
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    Water John wrote: »
    With the rain the oats should be ok. Ideally, oats and linseed set separately. Oats first and lightly harrowed. Linseed follows and rolling should be sufficient.
    Same as undersowing, my recipie.


    Agree Water John. I just didnt have a harrow when sowing. Was just wondering if the Oats would be ok. Thanks


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  • #192
    Muckit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farmers-already-losing-thousands-of-euro-in-glas-penalties/


  • #193
    I said
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭I said


    Muckit wrote: »
    http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/farmers-already-losing-thousands-of-euro-in-glas-penalties/

    😱


  • #194
    mayota
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭mayota


    I'm in glas 2 and the guy i was getting the bird boxes from last week said he's still getting loads of calls from glas 1 farmers looking for boxes.


  • #195
    ormondeboy3
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    Lads, are we obliged to throw a bit of fertiliser out? As was mentioned before will be trying to keep inputs low for first year anyway and just wondering what Dept definition of "establishing" crop is?

    Also have a few patching bits where crowd went to town. Any concerns with that or approaches? Was going to throw out an extra bit of mustard seed to close it in and fertilise that piece only?


  • #196
    eoinmk2
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭eoinmk2


    Does anyone know if you can buy just the linseed on its own, and if so here to get it? The contractor who sowed the seed must have callibrated the machine wrong and missed about half an acre. Was just going to throw out a bit by hand and chance it. got some oats seed off a tillage farmer, just need to find some linseed to mix in


  • #197
    Kovu
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    eoinmk2 wrote: »
    Does anyone know if you can buy just the linseed on its own, and if so here to get it? The contractor who sowed the seed must have callibrated the machine wrong and missed about half an acre. Was just going to throw out a bit by hand and chance it. got some oats seed off a tillage farmer, just need to find some linseed to mix in

    We bought the linseed on it's own- 10kg in Aurivo. Was very dear though!


  • #198
    Water John
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    Yeah, bought the linseed on its own. Difficult to get.
    I paid €107 for 25Kg. Goldcrop imported it.
    May be some one here has some left over for you.
    You need about 5Kg.


  • #199
    Base price
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    Can you swap a LIPP parcel for another parcel/s of the same acreage either this year or next without penalties.


  • #200
    Water John
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    Honest answer is I don't know, but I know I cannot change the land allocated to bird cover.


  • #201
    eoinmk2
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭eoinmk2


    Cheers, Jesus it's dear enough. Could I chance just skipping it for the bit he missed? Just say it didn't take of something if we get an inspection. Or could we be penalised if it all doesn't have the linseed? It'd only a strip up the side


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