Tina Satchwell News updates MOD NOTE POST ONE

weldoninhio · 06-02-2018 3:24pm

pilly wrote: »

Yeah, I'm kind of on the fence with this one. No-one knows why the AGS did this. I'll reserve judgement until more explanation is given.

AGS didn't do this. 2 idiot members of AGS took it upon themselves to do this.

pilly · 06-02-2018 3:25pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

AGS didn't do this. 2 idiot members of AGS took it upon themselves to do this.

Fair comment, I was just being lazy in my typing.

Muahahaha · 06-02-2018 3:44pm

AGS Mission Statement

AGS wrote:

The Mission of An Garda Síochána is to deliver professional policing and security services with the trust, confidence and support of the people we serve. .

What those two members did does not inspire professionalism, trust or confidence.

Tinas familiy must be raging about this, to have her name used like that when she is missing and two lads who are supposed to be finding her grinning about the matter. The optics are very ugly here and they have done a disservice to the other members of the force who are actually taking this investigation seriously.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 06-02-2018 3:53pm

Might be some psychological trick by the Gardai.

Seth Brundle · 06-02-2018 4:24pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

So you think it is appropiate for two Gardai to be smiling about a missing person who may or may not be alive How would you feel if your loved one was missing for almost a year and a picture of two Gardai referencing them surfaced with them grinning ear to ear? Would you dismiss it like you are doing here?

You see them smiling. You have no idea what conversation is happening there causing them to smile. You just want to assume that they are taking the piss and want to moan about them.

Gadgetman496 · 06-02-2018 4:32pm

Maybe the smiles were to appear non intimidating in the event she did see it?

There just two guy's at a darts match, they're off duty too.

blade1 · 06-02-2018 4:38pm

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Maybe the smiles were to appear non intimidating in the event she did see it?

There just two guy's at a darts match, they're off duty too.

You are relying a lot on maybe there.
I can you for fact that they are claiming it was not aimed at Tina Satchwell at all.

Muahahaha · 06-02-2018 4:40pm

kbannon wrote: »

You see them smiling. You have no idea what conversation is happening there causing them to smile. You just want to assume that they are taking the piss and want to moan about them.

No, all I want is for members of the Gardai to act professional and that is clearly not the case here. These two idiots need to learn the meaning of decorum- doing this knowing that family are heartbroken that she is missing is not decorum and is far from professional, as has been shown by the apology by AGS and the now open investigation into these two members.

I noticed you avoided answering my question so I will ask again- if a loved one of yours was missing for 8 months and two Gardai investigating the case showed up in a picture like this with their name referenced and grinning ear to ear how would you and your family feel about it? Would it be acceptable to you to be treated in this manner by members of the Gardai who are supposed to be investigating the loss of your loved one?

Seth Brundle · 06-02-2018 4:56pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

I noticed you avoided answering my question so I will ask again- if a loved one of yours was missing for 8 months and two Gardai investigating the case showed up in a picture like this with their name referenced and grinning ear to ear how would you and your family feel about it? Would it be acceptable to you to be treated in this manner by members of the Gardai who are supposed to be investigating the loss of your loved one?

Your question is not like the scenario that occured.
The two gardai were and are not working on the case.

Gadgetman496 · 06-02-2018 4:58pm

blade1 wrote: »

You are relying a lot on maybe there.
I can you for fact that they are claiming it was not aimed at Tina Satchwell at all.

Sure there you go then, it was another Tina, problem solved, never an issue to begin with.

Terrible when people get the wrong end of the stick isn't it.

blade1 · 06-02-2018 5:08pm

Good to see members of the AGS and their unbiased opinions on here.

Muahahaha · 06-02-2018 5:24pm

kbannon wrote: »

Your question is not like the scenario that occured.
The two gardai were and are not working on the case.

So I will re-phrase the question to you:-

If a loved one of yours was missing for 8 months and two Gardai showed up in a picture like this with their name referenced and grinning ear to ear how would you and your family feel about it? Would it be acceptable to you to be treated in this manner by members of AGS, an organisation that are supposed to be investigating the loss of your loved one? Would you be ok with this and not make a complaint?

fepper · 06-02-2018 5:25pm

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Maybe the smiles were to appear non intimidating in the event she did see it?

There just two guy's at a darts match, they're off duty too.

They're taking the mick out of it for sure,is the investigation into her Disappearance' another comedy episode...

CantGetNoSleep · 06-02-2018 5:34pm

Normally in a missing person case the person's family are doing as much as possible to spread the word, share this on facebook etc. - why is it such a problem that they got it on TV at a darts tournament?

I find odd that there is no mention of her family at all.

Doesn't really seem like your usual missing persons case, or that they are looking for a missing person

valoren · 06-02-2018 5:37pm

blade1 wrote: »

You are relying a lot on maybe there.
I can you for fact that they are claiming it was not aimed at Tina Satchwell at all.

Looks like they're going to do a 180 on it so......

:cool:

blade1 · 06-02-2018 5:46pm

valoren wrote: »

Looks like they're going to do a 180 on it so......

:cool:

An old dartboard would have less holes in it than their story!

JeffKenna · 06-02-2018 5:47pm

kbannon wrote: »

TBH I don't know. I reckon I'd be more intent on findong out what happened than jumping to assumptions about a photo.

Assuming that you mean me then please feel free to report my post(s) but for the record I do not mod this forum!

For the record I actually have.

Skylinehead · 06-02-2018 5:48pm

Dev84 wrote: »

The Moderators comments on this thread a disgraceful.

Boards.ie where you can't comment on an ongoing trial in a different jurisdiction (paddy Jackson rape trial) but you can show no regard for a missing person from this country.

great stuff.

JeffKenna wrote: »

Have to agree, I'm actually quite shocked by the moderators comments.

What moderator?

Seth Brundle · 06-02-2018 5:54pm

Dev84 wrote: »

I wouldn't like to see what you do Mod.

Don't be like that :rolleyes:
If you disagree with my opinion then challenge it rather than throw childish comments out there.
Personally, I don't have much of a problem with the picture in the grand scheme of things. I have not seen anyone post a good enough reason to make me change my view. Would you like to try and convert me?

Franz Von Peppercorn · 06-02-2018 6:00pm

JeffKenna wrote: »

For the record I actually have.

What are you reporting - a disagreement on this subject?

Skylinehead · 06-02-2018 6:03pm

Dev84 wrote: »

I wouldn't like to see what you do Mod.

Mod: Stop the nonsense. Verging on personal abuse.

Muahahaha · 06-02-2018 6:18pm

kbannon wrote: »

TBH I don't know. I reckon I'd be more intent on findong out what happened than jumping to assumptions about a photo.

You can be intent on finding out what happened AND also be annoyed at the two Gardai smiling in a photo referencing your loved one both at the same time. Its not an either / or option.

I have asked you the question three times without an answer now so I will leave it there. All I can assume is that you would have no problems with the Gardai treating a missing loved one of yours in that way. Thats fair enough, its your call. But I would hazard a guess most members of the public would not see it that way, nor would they think that the Gardai who appeared in the photo are inspiring professionalism, trust or confidence their chosen career. It reflects poorly on other members who are doing a good job and it is only right that these two muppets have been taken to task on it.

Thats not to even mention that they may have inadvertently jeopardised an investigaton, loose lips sink ships and all that. I would imagine the missing persons investigation team is none too impressed with the solo run of these two Gardai on social media.

Skylinehead · 06-02-2018 6:30pm

Dev84 wrote: »

Because I think his comments are below that of the standard required for a Mod.

I think he is purposely just trying to stir things up and it has worked.

Mod: Ok you had your chance, don't post in this thread again.

mynamejeff · 06-02-2018 6:31pm

Dev84 wrote: »

No. No they are not. They are clearly conducting part of the search at this event so I would consider them on duty the minutes they produced that sign.

fair play to ya , they were on duty at a darts match ? in dublin i think?

two lads who are not involved in investigation at all

if your looking for a garda bashing thread theres plenty of them on here go post in one of them why dont you ,

issues agendas and ill informed opinions are what make boards what it is

Gadgetman496 · 06-02-2018 6:31pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

they rung up Richard fairly lively and told him about the photo referencing Tina before he had to see it for himself on social media. And they launched an investigation into these two muppets whose job it is to know better.

Might be all part of the plan to fool him into thinking he's not a person of interest.

Muahahaha · 06-02-2018 6:35pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

It was a silly stunt. But if you read between the lines you get an insight into what the Gardai must be thinking about the case.

Thats what I am thinking which is what makes this stunt even more dumb. If Richard is a suspect for AGS and the detectives on the case are holding their cards close to their chest waiting for him to mess up then these two idiots have just waved a large red flag telling him as much.

And if he is a suspect then the two boyos have just made it even more difficult for the detectives to secure a conviction. Potential murder investigations are a psychological game of cat and mouse and these two Gardai might well have jeopardised that which means the suspect is going to be even harder to pin down.

Stuckforcash · 06-02-2018 6:41pm

kbannon wrote: »

Show me what indicates that they are gardai.

What are you rambling out? AGS contacted the husband about this, It clearly says so in the article that brought this whole episode to attention. Why would they apologise if it was just two randomers?

Muahahaha · 06-02-2018 6:45pm

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

Might be all part of the plan to fool him into thinking he's not a person of interest.

I had considered that possibility but dismissed it on the basis that AGS are already under the cosh enough in the media without this on top of them too. The photo is disrespectful towards Tina and her family and is a PR mess for AGS. I couldnt see AGS bringing even more negative public opinion on themselves as part of a plan to fool Richard.

In any case if they want to trick him into believing he is not a suspect then the best way to do that is face to face by gaining his confidence by being concerned for his plight. This photo actually does the exact opposite of that objective, I have no doubt right now Richard is thinking that the loose lips of the Gardai have done the rounds in Cork and he is very much thinking he is in the frame. I know I would be if I were in his position, whether I were guilty or not.

The whole episode is a clusterfcuk that the investigating detectives could well have done without IMO.

Seth Brundle · 06-02-2018 7:37pm

Stuckforcash wrote: »

What are you rambling out? AGS contacted the husband about this, It clearly says so in the article that brought this whole episode to attention. Why would they apologise if it was just two randomers?

I was replying to what i see as faux outrage about two men who were holding up a sign. They were not dressed as gardai and were, to our knowledge, off duty.
We wouldn't have heard about this if the husband didn't publicise it to the media
Sure some people giving out here evidentlyndidnt read the article properly.

tara73 · 06-02-2018 7:43pm

this is strange. still don't see anywhere anybody posted the pic. Nothing on the the internet either..is it removed?

Stuckforcash · 06-02-2018 7:45pm

kbannon wrote: »

I was replying to what i see as faux outrage about two men who were holding up a sign. They were not dressed as gardai and were, to our knowledge, off duty.
We wouldn't have heard about this if the husband didn't publicise it to the media
Sure some people giving out here evidentlyndidnt read the article properly.

Nope, you said there was no evidence these men were guards. You were wrong.

tara73 · 06-02-2018 7:57pm

kbannon wrote: »

Seemingly this is the picture...

Not sure what the fuss is. There is nothing there to suggest that they are members of AGS. It keeps her disappearance in the news. They are encouraging her to return home. Where is the negative vibe coming from?

Am I mad?? there's no picture. getting slightly worried here, am I banned from seeing certain things on boards..:eek::D HELP

Seth Brundle · 06-02-2018 7:58pm

Stuckforcash wrote: »

Nope, you said there was no evidence these men were guards. You were wrong.

There is no evidence that they were gardai. They are not in uniform.
Have you evidence from the pic that they are gardai?

B0jangles · 06-02-2018 8:02pm

tara73 wrote: »

Am I mad?? there's no picture. getting slightly worried here, am I banned from seeing certain things on boards..:eek::D HELP

Are you on your phone? If so maybe you have it set so that it doesn't download any media to save on data? That'd explain the missing images

Here's the same image on a different hosting site anyway:

rawn · 06-02-2018 8:07pm

Muahahaha wrote: »

No, all I want is for members of the Gardai to act professional and that is clearly not the case here. These two idiots need to learn the meaning of decorum- doing this knowing that family are heartbroken that she is missing is not decorum and is far from professional, as has been shown by the apology by AGS and the now open investigation into these two members.

I noticed you avoided answering my question so I will ask again- if a loved one of yours was missing for 8 months and two Gardai investigating the case showed up in a picture like this with their name referenced and grinning ear to ear how would you and your family feel about it? Would it be acceptable to you to be treated in this manner by members of the Gardai who are supposed to be investigating the loss of your loved one?

I know this question wasn't directed at me but I'll answer it anyways. I'd be glad that my loved one's name was being shared far and wide in the hope that someone, somewhere (maybe even that loved one) will see it and they will be found. The fact that they're grinning - I think people are taking far too much offense to it. They are at a darts tournament not a vigil, when this picture (or is it a still from a video?) was taken they were probably cheering along with the crowds at whoever threw the pointy thing at the bit of painted wood. Some intrepid reporter decided to publish this because OMG LOOK AT THE GUARDS SMILING! I genuinely feel like the husbands indignant rage feels like he's trying to deflect attention, and making a mountain out of a molehill.

BTW, is it actually referring to Tina Satchwell? I have seen no other reports on this after the initial Indo article.

tara73 · 06-02-2018 8:12pm

B0jangles wrote: »

Are you on your phone? If so maybe you have it set so that it doesn't download any media to save on data? That'd explain the missing images

Here's the same image on a different hosting site anyway:

thanks for that. no, on my computer. weird.

B0jangles · 06-02-2018 8:16pm

tara73 wrote: »

thanks for that. no, on my computer. weird.

Can you see the one I rehosted? If so, maybe you have an antivirus that's picking up the other hosting site as dodgy.

dense · 06-02-2018 8:27pm

kbannon wrote: »

TBH I don't know. I reckon I'd be more intent on findong out what happened than jumping to assumptions about a photo.

The newspaper report said the two guys grinning in the photo holding the sign are guards.

What other assumptions about the photograph are being jumped at?

I'd say one is that they don't look particularly sincere, but maybe my judgement is off!

Do you think they look sincere?

If its such a good idea, do you think the two guys should try a similar smiling photo holding a "Come home Philip" sign held up outside Philip Cairns' old school?

And what is so special about this photo that would make anyone think it would help in "encouraging her to come home"?

Maybe you could convert me?

weldoninhio · 06-02-2018 8:28pm

kbannon wrote: »

There is no evidence that they were gardai. They are not in uniform.
Have you evidence from the pic that they are gardai?

Yes, no evidence. AGS might be winding Mr Satchwell up for the craic.

“Richard Satchwell said he was deeply upset when he learned from An Garda Síochána on Saturday that a post of a photograph of two serving officers holding a sign saying “Tina Come Home” had gone viral.”

rawn · 06-02-2018 8:38pm

weldoninhio wrote: »

Yes, no evidence. AGS might be winding Mr Satchwell up for the craic.

“Richard Satchwell said he was deeply upset when he learned from An Garda Síochána on Saturday that a post of a photograph of two serving officers holding a sign saying “Tina Come Home” had gone viral.”

Had gone viral

has anyone actually seen it shared on social media?

blade1 · 06-02-2018 8:41pm

rawn wrote: »

Had gone viral has anyone actually seen it shared on social media?

Yes me and loads more as well.
It was on their (cops in pic) Instagram

06-02-2018 8:42pm

I'd like to know the full story behind this picture- there may well be a story that's not totally related to the current case i.e. someone called Tina at the darts match- two people wishing them well etc I dunno.

It obviously went on social media and obviously took on legs but whether or not the two people pictured did anything wrong or deliberate, that's not clear at this point.

it's obviously very insensitive given the current case and basically shouldn't have happened but maybe, just maybe, there's an innocent explanation? Maybe?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 06-02-2018 8:51pm

Dev84 wrote: »

The Moderators comments on this thread a disgraceful.

Boards.ie where you can't comment on an ongoing trial in a different jurisdiction (paddy Jackson rape trial) but you can show no regard for a missing person from this country.

great stuff.

Mod note: You're welcome.

And don't post in this thread again.

Buford T. Justice

Stuckforcash · 06-02-2018 8:51pm

kbannon wrote: »

There is no evidence that they were gardai. They are not in uniform.
Have you evidence from the pic that they are gardai?

Clutching at straws. You didn't read the article and are now fairly feebly trying to back track.

It's OK to admit you made a mistake.

rawn · 06-02-2018 8:53pm

Stuckforcash wrote: »

Clutching at straws. You didn't read the article and are now fairly feebly trying to back track.

It's OK to admit you made a mistake.

There is no dispute that they are Gardaí. The Gardaí (not the pictured ones) actually rang him and told him that they were off duty Gardaí.

smurgen · 06-02-2018 9:02pm

kbannon wrote: »

I was replying to what i see as faux outrage about two men who were holding up a sign. They were not dressed as gardai and were, to our knowledge, off duty.
We wouldn't have heard about this if the husband didn't publicise it to the media
Sure some people giving out here evidentlyndidnt read the article properly.

They are two gardai,the guard on the left was involved in the search for Tina and posted it to his personal instagram account.why are you blaming the husband?

Seth Brundle · 06-02-2018 10:05pm

Stuckforcash wrote: »

Clutching at straws. You didn't read the article and are now fairly feebly trying to back track.

It's OK to admit you made a mistake.

So tell me, what exactly in the photo would identify them as gardai?

Seth Brundle · 06-02-2018 10:08pm

smurgen wrote: »

They are two gardai,the guard on the left was involved in the search for Tina and posted it to his personal instagram account.why are you blaming the husband?

The media reported that they ahd no involvement in the case.
"Neither of the two serving gardaí are involved in the investigation into the disappearance of Tina from her Cork home last March."
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/richard-satchwell-outraged-after-offduty-garda-allegedly-held-sign-at-darts-match-saying-tina-come-home-36568652.html

retro:electro · 06-02-2018 10:21pm

kbannon wrote: »

So tell me, what exactly in the photo would identify them as gardai?

Why do you keep repeating this sentence over and over, as it it's some kind of comprehension issue on our end and we didn't understand you the first time?
We know they're Gardai because it has been stated they are Gardai. I don't even know what point you're trying to make anymore and I doubt you do either.

smurgen · 06-02-2018 10:26pm

kbannon wrote: »

The media reported that they ahd no involvement in the case.
"Neither of the two serving gardaí are involved in the investigation into the disappearance of Tina from her Cork home last March."
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/richard-satchwell-outraged-after-offduty-garda-allegedly-held-sign-at-darts-match-saying-tina-come-home-36568652.html

They were believe me.my cousin is a guard in the area.

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