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Wifi mesh systems

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭avud


    Hi
    I'm considering getting the google nest mesh system due to wifi black spots especially upstairs. I live in a standard 4 bed detached. My supplier is Eir with up to 100 mb download speeds and I have their supplied fibre F2000 router.
    Has anyone tried the google system on a similar setup and does it work, im not tech savvy but I'm reading about issues like NAT etc on forms.
    If the goigle isn't compatible any suggestions of an alternative option

    Advice appreciated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,427 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Hi, I bought Google Next Router with one Nest Access Point.

    Tried to set them up, WiFi seems fine from the Nest Router, the AccessPoint is beating me.

    I went through and set it up following the steps, but it seems to be operating basically as just a Google Home (receiving WiFi and accepting voice commands) but not as an Access Point boosting WiFi.

    On the Google home app...
    It appears as a Device (Bedroom), when I go to WiFi I can see it as a device but when I click “Points” it’s just showing me the router (kitchen).

    On the Google WiFi app...
    It’s just showing the Internet, WiFi Point (that’s the router/kitchen), Devices. It should be showing another should it?

    Screenshots attached. Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭babelfish1990


    avud wrote: »
    Hi
    I'm considering getting the google nest mesh system due to wifi black spots especially upstairs. I live in a standard 4 bed detached. My supplier is Eir with up to 100 mb download speeds and I have their supplied fibre F2000 router.
    Has anyone tried the google system on a similar setup and does it work, im not tech savvy but I'm reading about issues like NAT etc on forms.
    If the goigle isn't compatible any suggestions of an alternative option

    Advice appreciated
    Don't use Google WiFi. While it is an excellent device on it's own, you will end up with NAT issues when you have more than one device - which negates the main advantage of Mesh.

    If you have Cat5/Cat6 wiring in your house, I would recommend Ubiquiti Unifi devices, as these can be powered off the Ethernet cables (POE). If you don't have wiring go for a Mesh system that allows you to put the entire Mesh into "AP Mode". Switch off the WiFi in your Eir Router, and revert to using the Eir Router as a modem/router only, rather than a source of WiFi. TP Link Deco series are a reliable make, that support AP mode. Never use the Mesh system in router mode, or you will have NAT issues.

    Some nerds and mesh manufacturers recommend you ditch your ISP router - Bad advice, unless you are very experienced in networking technology. Your ISP router provides your firewall, and is continuously managed by Eir. They will keep security patches up-to-date, and manage the settings remotely. If you ditch your router, you will have to be prepared to manage everything yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    Damien360 wrote: »
    Modem mode IP for VM is 192.168.100.1
    Router mode default VM 192.168.0.1

    You don’t need Helpdesk

    Hi Damien360,

    I can't connect to those IP addresses regardless of whether I try via a WiFi connected Win 10 laptop / Android phone or via the Ethernet connected Win 10 PC.

    I might give VM helpdesk a call on Monday to see if they can help me figure out how to access the modem and check it's settings etc.

    Here's my latest cloudflare result from a Win 10 Mesh WiFi connected laptop.

    qQvKHYz.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭avud


    Don't use Google WiFi. While it is an excellent device on it's own, you will end up with NAT issues when you have more than one device - which negates the main advantage of Mesh.

    If you have Cat5/Cat6 wiring in your house, I would recommend Ubiquiti Unifi devices, as these can be powered off the Ethernet cables (POE). If you don't have wiring go for a Mesh system that allows you to put the entire Mesh into "AP Mode". Switch off the WiFi in your Eir Router, and revert to using the Eir Router as a modem/router only, rather than a source of WiFi. TP Link Deco series are a reliable make, that support AP mode. Never use the Mesh system in router mode, or you will have NAT issues.

    Some nerds and mesh manufacturers recommend you ditch your ISP router - Bad advice, unless you are very experienced in networking technology. Your ISP router provides your firewall, and is continuously managed by Eir. They will keep security patches up-to-date, and manage the settings remotely. If you ditch your router, you will have to be prepared to manage everything yourself.

    Thanks very much for your advice you saved me lots of hassle there. The house isn't hardwired for ethernet unfortunately, so I guess the TP Deco is my option. Can you recommend one particular model please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭babelfish1990


    avud wrote: »
    Thanks very much for your advice you saved me lots of hassle there. The house isn't hardwired for ethernet unfortunately, so I guess the TP Deco is my option. Can you recommend one particular model please

    A TPLink M4 3-pack should be perfectly adequate for you - expect to pay around €160 - well worth the money. If you want to shell out a little more - you could go for the M5 - slightly higher spec, and neater nodes, if space is an issue - around €200 for a 3-pack.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    Don't use Google WiFi. While it is an excellent device on it's own, you will end up with NAT issues when you have more than one device - which negates the main advantage of Mesh.

    If you have Cat5/Cat6 wiring in your house, I would recommend Ubiquiti Unifi devices, as these can be powered off the Ethernet cables (POE). If you don't have wiring go for a Mesh system that allows you to put the entire Mesh into "AP Mode". Switch off the WiFi in your Eir Router, and revert to using the Eir Router as a modem/router only, rather than a source of WiFi. TP Link Deco series are a reliable make, that support AP mode. Never use the Mesh system in router mode, or you will have NAT issues.

    Some nerds and mesh manufacturers recommend you ditch your ISP router - Bad advice, unless you are very experienced in networking technology. Your ISP router provides your firewall, and is continuously managed by Eir. They will keep security patches up-to-date, and manage the settings remotely. If you ditch your router, you will have to be prepared to manage everything yourself.

    I don't know what you mean about the Google Mesh, I have it and don't have a problem and I do all types of online gaming (consoles, PC and Shield) with no problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Clareman wrote: »
    I don't know what you mean about the Google Mesh, I have it and don't have a problem and I do all types of online gaming (consoles, PC and Shield) with no problem.

    If you have double NAT you have issues just not realised it yet. It breaks so many things, hosting pc and console games, VPN, VOIP, strict SSL and many more protocols get broken. Your PC and devices use plug and play to open the ports on the Google WiFi firewall then the ports remain blocked on your main router. It should never be 2 hops to the internet without careful planning and routing.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    I'm using all that as well as hosting a plex server, no issues whatsoever. Just checked it there, I've 50 devices connected at the moment and no problem I used VPN and VOIP for ~40 hours every week without a single issue. I also access all different types of smart devices (heat, lights, fans, cameras, alarm, vacuum) without a single issue. Everything just works, no issues with anything, gaming varies from PS5/Xbox X/PC to Counter Strike to Shield. I tried Stadia as well, didn't like it but didn't have a connection issue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Clareman wrote: »
    I'm using all that as well as hosting a plex server, no issues whatsoever. Just checked it there, I've 50 devices connected at the moment and no problem I used VPN and VOIP for ~40 hours every week without a single issue. I also access all different types of smart devices (heat, lights, fans, cameras, alarm, vacuum) without a single issue. Everything just works, no issues with anything, gaming varies from PS5/Xbox X/PC to Counter Strike to Shield. I tried Stadia as well, didn't like it but didn't have a connection issue.

    You don't have double NAT! Or you are connecting these devices to your main router

    "What is Double NAT? | Answer | NETGEAR Support" https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional Midwest Moderators Posts: 24,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Clareman


    You don't have double NAT! Or you are connecting these devices to your main router

    "What is Double NAT? | Answer | NETGEAR Support" https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT

    Most devices are on the wifi, some are wired but not many. I've the ISP router as a passthrough which is removing the double NAT issue I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Clareman wrote: »
    Most devices are on the wifi, some are wired but not many. I've the ISP router as a passthrough which is removing the double NAT issue I think.

    You don't have double NAT, you have bridged your ISP router!

    I have the same here.

    FTTH doesn't use a modem, just a router, so you can replace the router with another but this router must support vlan tagging on the wan which isn't possible on a Google WiFi. This is the point that was being made


  • Registered Users Posts: 192 ✭✭Mgit


    I have linksys velop and it had double nat by default or at least uses a different subnet for the wireless clients which is a disaster as ethernet smart tvs etc are not accessible by WiFi clients.

    I changed mine to ap mode works OK after, unless you're techie I'd stay away from the velop, they're good when setup but can be tricky to get going right.

    I have the dual mode velop and both nodes on ethernet, get 300 to 400mbps on 5ghz WiFi.

    Tried bt whole home and it was a disaster, screen mirroring from mobiles kept dropping, returned to argos for refund.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Mgit wrote: »
    I have linksys velop and it had double nat by default or at least uses a different subnet for the wireless clients which is a disaster as ethernet smart tvs etc are not accessible by WiFi clients.

    I changed mine to ap mode works OK after, unless you're techie I'd stay away from the velop, they're good when setup but can be tricky to get going right.

    If they were both connected to the Velop that's most likely a security setting called client isolation or AP isolation there's little need for it on a home network
    "Linksys Official Support - Getting to know the AP Isolation function" https://www.linksys.com/gb/support-article?articleNum=135098

    The thing about running a mesh system in AP mode is you are missing out on most of the router features you've paid for


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Daveq


    54and56 wrote: »
    So I got and installed the 2 unit TaoTronics AC300 Tri-Band Mesh WiFi system yesterday.

    Any thoughts / suggestions?

    Is it possible I've somehow ended up with a double NAT scenario or something similar which is creating a delay in traffic?

    I have the same system with a Virgin Media Hub 3.0. WiFi disabled on VM Hub, no fixed IPs
    All settings on TT as default. UPNP enabled etc..
    I have the IOT 2.4 disabled and just connected my IOT devices to the standard 2.4ghz band that it uses. It should provide two 5ghz bands and a 2.4ghz on the same SSID.
    And I have 5ghz on 80m instead of Auto.
    I have a NAS drive connected via ethernet to the VM Hub instead of the TT router and can still access it using its IP so I think that means VM Hub is providing IP addresses.

    In the app click on the globe on the home page. See what IP address for the gateway is. Mine is showing as 192.168.0.1 which is my VM Hub.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    Looking for a little help, I have the Huawei Q2, 6 units in total around the house. Connected to a Virgin Hub 3. I have the Virgin wifi disabled on 2.4 and 5GHz.
    I'm getting 240 Mbps which I'm happy with but after about a week it drops to 20 Mbps. If I switch off both the main Huawei and Virgin router the speed goes back up to 240.
    Reading here I see people suggesting there can be a conflict with two routers and the Virgin one should be put in bridge mode, thinking that might be an issue. I've connected to the Virgin Hub but I can't see anywhere in the settings to do this. Is switching off the wifi the same as bridge mode or are there other settings that might need changing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭degsie


    Gerry T wrote: »
    Looking for a little help, I have the Huawei Q2, 6 units in total around the house. Connected to a Virgin Hub 3. I have the Virgin wifi disabled on 2.4 and 5GHz.
    I'm getting 240 Mbps which I'm happy with but after about a week it drops to 20 Mbps. If I switch off both the main Huawei and Virgin router the speed goes back up to 240.
    Reading here I see people suggesting there can be a conflict with two routers and the Virgin one should be put in bridge mode, thinking that might be an issue. I've connected to the Virgin Hub but I can't see anywhere in the settings to do this. Is switching off the wifi the same as bridge mode or are there other settings that might need changing.

    Generally you have to options:
    1) Bridge your ISP's router so that it is in 'modem only' mode and set your 'base' mesh unit to router mode, or
    b) Set your 'base' mesh unit to access point mode and connect to one of the ISP's router's lan ports
    In either case turn off the ISP's router wifi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,310 ✭✭✭ratracer


    Gerry T wrote: »
    Looking for a little help, I have the Huawei Q2, 6 units in total around the house. Connected to a Virgin Hub 3. I have the Virgin wifi disabled on 2.4 and 5GHz.
    I'm getting 240 Mbps which I'm happy with but after about a week it drops to 20 Mbps. If I switch off both the main Huawei and Virgin router the speed goes back up to 240.
    Reading here I see people suggesting there can be a conflict with two routers and the Virgin one should be put in bridge mode, thinking that might be an issue. I've connected to the Virgin Hub but I can't see anywhere in the settings to do this. Is switching off the wifi the same as bridge mode or are there other settings that might need changing.

    If you follow the bargain alerts thread for the Q2, I’ve posted about my experience with it in their. I had similar trouble with mine, would keep needing to be reset. I sent the first one back for inspection, I was told it had a fault ( but not told what the fault was), and a new one would be sent out. The new ones did the exact same thing after a week or so. I sent them back, they were also judged to be faulty. I eventually received my money back.

    I would suggest that if there is an issue with yours, you should initiate a repair/ refund ASAP, if you leave if too long, you will be left with a whole pile of useless tech.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    degsie wrote: »
    Generally you have to options:
    1) Bridge your ISP's router so that it is in 'modem only' mode and set your 'base' mesh unit to router mode, or
    b) Set your 'base' mesh unit to access point mode and connect to one of the ISP's router's lan ports
    Generally these are your two options. I'd go with option 1. Bridge your ISP router.



    Option 3 is to get around double natting, which is what I think you have [2 routers in router mode]. I do this. I have actually 3 routers. VM router but in bridge mode. Google WIFI as the main internal router. and an edge router as a VPN server routing all outbound traffic from all internal devices through the VPN. But it took a while to get right. It's not for the faint hearted.


    Double Natting is not bad, once you know it's there and build rules around it. It just complicates things.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    degsie wrote:
    Generally you have to options: 1) Bridge your ISP's router so that it is in 'modem only' mode and set your 'base' mesh unit to router mode, or b) Set your 'base' mesh unit to access point mode and connect to one of the ISP's router's lan ports In either case turn off the ISP's router wifi.


    Thks, I was trying to bridge the virgin router but it doesn't seem to have the option Ill check AP mode on the Q2 when home


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    ratracer wrote:
    I would suggest that if there is an issue with yours, you should initiate a repair/ refund ASAP, if you leave if too long, you will be left with a whole pile of useless tech.


    Agh crap, bought in the UK last yr from BOX, great price but not sure how that will work with brexit & shipping. Will try the AP mode suggested and check out that thread


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    RangeR wrote:
    Double Natting is not bad, once you know it's there and build rules around it. It just complicates things.

    Im not that strong on IT, i can follow instructions but managing rules is out of my knowledge.
    I'll see how AP goes.
    Pity i can't find how to set the virgin hub3 into bridge. Think thst is best as it leaves the q2 features. But is there other settings that can be switched that gives the same rest as bridging a router


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    Daveq wrote: »
    I have the same system with a Virgin Media Hub 3.0. WiFi disabled on VM Hub, no fixed IPs
    All settings on TT as default. UPNP enabled etc..
    I have the IOT 2.4 disabled and just connected my IOT devices to the standard 2.4ghz band that it uses. It should provide two 5ghz bands and a 2.4ghz on the same SSID.
    And I have 5ghz on 80m instead of Auto.
    I have a NAS drive connected via ethernet to the VM Hub instead of the TT router and can still access it using its IP so I think that means VM Hub is providing IP addresses.

    In the app click on the globe on the home page. See what IP address for the gateway is. Mine is showing as 192.168.0.1 which is my VM Hub.

    Thanks Daveq, that's very helpful.

    When I click on the globe the IP address is the Virgin static IP address and the gateway address is one less ie the same as the IP address but the last digit is one lower than the IP address which I don't think is one of the static IP addresses I have from Virgin.

    Might call Virgin tomorrow and figure out how to access their router/modem so I understand and can fully control the setup.

    So far very happy with the TT, everything is working well and the admin app is very easy to use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,193 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Gerry T wrote: »
    Im not that strong on IT, i can follow instructions but managing rules is out of my knowledge.
    I'll see how AP goes.
    Pity i can't find how to set the virgin hub3 into bridge. Think thst is best as it leaves the q2 features. But is there other settings that can be switched that gives the same rest as bridging a router

    Seems pretty easy called modem mode in the settings

    https://www.virginmedia.com/help/virgin-media-hub-modem-mode#hub3orhub4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭Cheshire Cat


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Seems pretty easy called modem mode in the settings

    https://www.virginmedia.com/help/virgin-media-hub-modem-mode#hub3orhub4

    That's the UK website. Unfortunately not as easy for Irish customers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭Damien360


    That's the UK website. Unfortunately not as easy for Irish customers.

    I have a VM hub 3 and it is just that easy. Log in with 192.168.0.1, access menu and change to modem mode. Access IP changes on reboot to 192.168.100.1. You can now use your own router.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    Cyrus wrote:
    Seems pretty easy called modem mode in the settings


    I tried connecting with both my ph and laptop and that option is not on the menu !
    I've gone through all the menu options and didnt see any modem mode or bridge mode option.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    Damien360 wrote:
    I have a VM hub 3 and it is just that easy. Log in with 192.168.0.1, access menu and change to modem mode. Access IP changes on reboot to 192.168.100.1. You can now use your own router.


    When i log on the menu has
    Home
    Connected devices
    Advanced settings
    Admin

    Connected devices just shows whats plugged into esch port
    Admin allows password change, reboot, remote access and info
    Advanced has more menues
    Wireless
    Security
    DHCP
    UPhP
    Tools
    Cant see in any of them the modem or bridge option.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Gerry T wrote: »
    When i log on the menu has
    Home
    Connected devices
    Advanced settings
    Admin

    Connected devices just shows whats plugged into esch port
    Admin allows password change, reboot, remote access and info
    Advanced has more menues
    Wireless
    Security
    DHCP
    UPhP
    Tools
    Cant see in any of them the modem or bridge option.

    I'm guessing 'wireless'... Why don't you click on the menu options to find out what they are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Seems pretty easy called modem mode in the settings

    https://www.virginmedia.com/help/virgin-media-hub-modem-mode#hub3orhub4


    This is all I did to my Hub. It was was clear as day in the menu. Maybe VM have hidden it now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    54and56 wrote: »
    Might call Virgin tomorrow and figure out how to access their router/modem so I understand and can fully control the setup.


    Open a command prompt by tapping the Windows key once [Windows 10 assumed] and type CMD then press enter.

    You should see a black window with white text.


    Type ipconfig then press enter again.


    You will see rows of text and numbers. You are looking for Default Gateway. That's the IP address of your VM router. Just type that number [usually 192.168.0.1] into your browser to login. login detail on the router sticker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭dam099


    Gerry T wrote: »
    When i log on the menu has
    Home
    Connected devices
    Advanced settings
    Admin

    Connected devices just shows whats plugged into esch port
    Admin allows password change, reboot, remote access and info
    Advanced has more menues
    Wireless
    Security
    DHCP
    UPhP
    Tools
    Cant see in any of them the modem or bridge option.

    By default Virgin usually have customers on a hybrid IP4/IP6 system DS-Lite. You need to ring them and ask them to switch you to IP4, modem mode should be available once they do that (may need a reboot).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    Are we yet beyond the "IPv6 crap, IPv4 good" nonsense?

    I'm running my home automation services exclusively over IPv6, which allows Google Assistant cloud to reach the servers without any trickery.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    Bluefoam wrote:
    I'm guessing 'wireless'... Why don't you click on the menu options to find out what they are?


    I have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,446 ✭✭✭Gerry T


    dam099 wrote:
    By default Virgin usually have customers on a hybrid IP4/IP6 system DS-Lite. You need to ring them and ask them to switch you to IP4, modem mode should be available once they do that (may need a reboot).

    Thanks, I'll give them a call today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭dam099


    grogi wrote: »
    Are we yet beyond the "IPv6 crap, IPv4 good" nonsense?

    I'm running my home automation services exclusively over IPv6, which allows Google Assistant cloud to reach the servers without any trickery.

    Seems not, since some of the ISP's still don't support fully.

    For Virgin if you want to use Modem mode then they seem to only allow it over IP4.

    I'm on Vodafone now and they are only giving out an IP4 address on my router.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    RangeR wrote: »
    Open a command prompt by tapping the Windows key once [Windows 10 assumed] and type CMD then press enter.

    You should see a black window with white text.


    Type ipconfig then press enter again.


    You will see rows of text and numbers. You are looking for Default Gateway. That's the IP address of your VM router. Just type that number [usually 192.168.0.1] into your browser to login. login detail on the router sticker.

    Thanks RangeR,

    Tried that but no joy I'm afraid. No matter which of the 192.168..... IP addresses I type into Chrome all I get is "This site can’t be reached" messages.

    4albVkf.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    On a bit of a whim I entered the 89.101.xxx.xx Gateway address the TT app shows in the "Globe" system status and I think it's the address of the Virgin modem as this is what I get. Now if only I knew the login and password :confused:

    hBiaD0f.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    54and56 wrote: »
    On a bit of a whim I entered the 89.101.xxx.xx Gateway address the TT app shows in the "Globe" system status and I think it's the address of the Virgin modem as this is what I get. Now if only I knew the login and password :confused:

    hBiaD0f.jpg

    Try the login information provided for the wifi


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    Try the login information provided for the wifi

    The TT router admin app doesn't use a password, instead it uses a form of 2 factor authentication. You enter your email address as the username and then hit a "send code" button which emails a 6 digit code that you have 5 minutes to enter in the app to gain access.

    I tried entering the code into the Chrome login/password option but no joy.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,747 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    54and56 wrote: »
    The TT router admin app doesn't use a password, instead it uses a form of 2 factor authentication. You enter your email address as the username and then hit a "send code" button which emails a 6 digit code that you have 5 minutes to enter in the app to gain access.

    I tried entering the code into the Chrome login/password option but no joy.

    Have you tried not putting in any information and clicking to log in? Just a stab in the dark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,265 ✭✭✭RangeR


    54and56 wrote: »
    The TT router admin app doesn't use a password, instead it uses a form of 2 factor authentication. You enter your email address as the username and then hit a "send code" button which emails a 6 digit code that you have 5 minutes to enter in the app to gain access.

    I tried entering the code into the Chrome login/password option but no joy.


    A bit off topic but not sure I like that. What happens if you have no internet to send the email?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    Have you tried not putting in any information and clicking to log in? Just a stab in the dark.

    :eek: Worked a treat. I skipped straight past that option this morning thinking it couldn't possibly be left wide open and tried admin / admin etc etc but yep it's wide open!!!

    Thanks.

    Now to figure out how it's set up etc.

    1EBT2qR.jpg

    One step at a time starting with creating a username and password!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,700 ✭✭✭54and56


    RangeR wrote: »
    A bit off topic but not sure I like that. What happens if you have no internet to send the email?

    Yeah, I thought the same thing. The app is phone based and you remain logged in indefinitely so I guess it's low risk unless someone gets hold of your phone and has the unlock code/pattern and/or you are unable to access email on the phone for some reason.

    It doesn't sound like a great / comprehensive solution but I do use Google Authenticator for other apps so it seems the assumption increasingly is if you're accessing an app / online facility you must have internet access and by extension (for TT anyway) email access.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,594 ✭✭✭Damien360


    dam099 wrote: »
    By default Virgin usually have customers on a hybrid IP4/IP6 system DS-Lite. You need to ring them and ask them to switch you to IP4, modem mode should be available once they do that (may need a reboot).

    I forgot that. I have it in IPV4 only mode as I asked for it. I use a VPN for work from home and it’s not IPV6 compatible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭whowantstwoknow


    I have the tplink deco m4, running in ap mode connected to my router hub. Having constant problems with the WiFi mesh having no Internet access, while the vf gigabox WiFi signal shows I have Internet.

    I've reset these twice, getting hassle from family to fix. Before turning my chips in with amazon any suggestion for troubleshooting?

    Thanks W.

    Should these units be given static ip addresses from the router DHCP server?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    I have the tplink deco m4, running in ap mode connected to my router hub. Having constant problems with the WiFi mesh having no Internet access, while the vf gigabox WiFi signal shows I have Internet.

    I've reset these twice, getting hassle from family to fix. Before turning my chips in with amazon any suggestion for troubleshooting?

    Thanks W.

    You should disable WiFi on the Vodafone gigabox!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭whowantstwoknow


    You should disable WiFi on the Vodafone gigabox!
    Why it's a different ssid and subnet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,297 ✭✭✭Gooey Looey


    Why it's a different ssid and subnet?

    Because it can cause interference, there are limited channels available. You are just creating noise!
    If you need a second SSID create a virtual ap on the mesh


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,543 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Dumb question, have had google WiFi for a couple of years. The original VM signal still comes up as an avaliable network (in addition to the Google WiFi network and that's what we have each device use).

    Is that right or should thd original VM one be dead, sometimes devices can flick to the VM signal and we have to manually switch it back to the Google WiFi signal.


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