Herd of cattle stolen- IFA €10,000 REWARD

TITANIUM. · 12-07-2015 12:21pm

Christadillon3 wrote: »

Thanks so much to everyone who has supported us at this awful time. On top of losing our herd,many years of work and our livelihood,we have been the recipients of some incredible hate mail. Insurance fraud,karma,tax evasion,stolen cattle being stolen back and several fake profiles set up on FB specifically to verbally abuse us and accuse us of all sorts.
I just want to make it clear. We have been totally transparent. We are normal farming folk trying to live a quiet life and the loss of our herd is devastating emotionally and financially.
The reason why there have been no updates on the case is because it is actively on going. We are very pleased with the massive,massive amount of work being done by the police and departments both sides of the border. We feel hopeful that something will come to light very soon. Please be patient and let's hope you can celebrate good news with us very soon.
We have a FB page 'Find our Livestock' and a Twitter account '@findourstock'
We would love as many new followers as possible.
Please help us win this fight-it could be you next. These crooks need to be stopped.

Well done on a composed and dignified response.
If I was in your your shoes I'd say I would have callasped in a pile on the ground and never risen.
Please god your stock are alive and well and will be returned to ye before to long.
Best of luck.

Nekarsulm · 12-07-2015 1:06pm

TITANIUM. wrote: »

Well done on a composed and dignified response.
If I was in your your shoes I'd say I would have callasped in a pile on the ground and never risen.
Please god your stock are alive and well and will be returned to ye before to long.
Best of luck.

If i was in your shoes i would be in custody, because by this stage I would have some of the local "wide boys" chained to a wall somewhere and a cordless drill ready, to encourage their cooperation........

Reggie. · 12-07-2015 1:42pm

Nekarsulm wrote: »

If i was in your shoes i would be in custody, because by this stage I would have some of the local "wide boys" chained to a wall somewhere and a cordless drill ready, to encourage their cooperation........

The film unthinkable comes to mind

Wildsurfer · 12-07-2015 8:34pm

Christadillon3 wrote: »

I'd also like to add that whilst we are overwhelmingly grateful for the very generous offers of replacement stock,we are not accepting anything from anyone. Our primary focus is on finding our stock. For those of you who are casting suspicions in our direction and growing elaborate conspiracy theories that we are somehow involved/owe money/insert other, I applaud your active imaginations.

I think you will just have to accept that when you go on social media as widespread as you have to highlight this incident that there will be keyboard warriors out there who will come up with all sorts of scenarios to doubt your claims. "The lady doth protest too much" is a phrase that jumps to mind. I think the message is out there that this incident has occurred but unless Gardai release photos etc that there is not a lot anybody can do to help retrieve these animals, its not as if someone is going to drive into my yard and try and sell me a few. So why bring further stress constantly defending yourself, maybe step back a bit from all the media/Facebook stuff and let the Gardai do their investigations. I wish you a successful outcome and hope the people involved face the the repercussions they deserve.

darragh_haven · 13-07-2015 11:10pm

testicle wrote: »

Evidence for that nonsense statement is required please.

Convicted rapist in the news today got his entire sentence suspended. So not such a nonsense statement now, is it?

_Tombstone_ · 14-07-2015 1:17am

darragh_haven wrote: »

Convicted rapist in the news today got his entire sentence suspended. So not such a nonsense statement now, is it?

At least 3 have got away with less than 2 years over the last while.

So out in less than 1 most likely.

Another 1 couple years back got suspended sentence aswell, prosecution had to appeal, think it was 3 years on take 2. Out in 18 months.

Kovu · 15-07-2015 5:16am

darragh_haven wrote: »

Convicted rapist in the news today got his entire sentence suspended. So not such a nonsense statement now, is it?

_Tombstone_ wrote: »

At least 3 have got away with less than 2 years over the last while.

So out in less than 1 most likely.

Another 1 couple years back got suspended sentence aswell, prosecution had to appeal, think it was 3 years on take 2. Out in 18 months.

Dafuq??? Lads have ye noticed the thread title?? Keep on topic please.

whelan2 · 20-07-2015 6:48pm

any update, its nearly a months since they disappeared

_Brian · 20-07-2015 10:15pm

whelan2 wrote: »

any update, its nearly a months since they disappeared

Yea.. Surely there's little hope now of them being recovered, and you'd worry about their trail gone well cold.. At this stage they could be slaughtered - hung for 15-20 days, been butchered and eaten

:(

Bullocks · 20-07-2015 10:21pm

_Brian wrote: »

Yea.. Surely there's little hope now of them being recovered, and you'd worry about their trail gone well cold.. At this stage they could be slaughtered - hung for 15-20 days, been butchered and eaten :(

Im surprised there hasn't been some news on the truck considering they had pictures . Whether they get the animals back now or not it would be good to see someone caught for the crime

DaveWalsh2020 · 31-07-2015 7:17am

Any news on this robbery...

dohc turbo2 · 31-07-2015 10:10am

DaveWalsh2020 wrote: »

Any news on this robbery...

Nothing lately and still no pic of the truck

valtraman · 11-08-2015 6:30pm

It is 11 days since the last comment ,I am just giving the thread a poke to keep it alive we need a result

whelan2 · 11-08-2015 6:32pm

valtraman wrote: »

It is 11 days since the last comment ,I am just giving the thread a poke to keep it alive we need a result

just saw an update on fb. they seem to be giving up on the search

Bullocks · 11-08-2015 7:14pm

whelan2 wrote: »

just saw an update on fb. they seem to be giving up on the search

I'm very surprised that there has been nothing found . Did they even arrest anyone over it ?

have2flushtwice · 11-08-2015 10:17pm

Bullocks wrote: »

I'm very surprised that there has been nothing found . Did they even arrest anyone over it ?

Silence speaks louder than words.

Pretty fast · 12-08-2015 12:41am

If this case goes unsolved it's a very poor indictment of our Gardaí.

I'm beginning to think this was a blacks ops operation and there was actually no cattle stolen at all.

tomieen jones · 13-08-2015 4:48pm

Any up date? It's not like a paintings or jewelery robbery where they are waiting for the thieves to move on the goods at this stage

Qualitymark · 23-08-2015 9:46am

A few years ago there was a case of a woman's herd being stolen somewhere in Africa - read the news about it. The thief was shruggy when she turned up with the cops, local headman or whatever. "It's your word against mine. I say they're my cows."
So she stood outside the field and one by one called her cows by name, and they trotted over, mooing happily, and re-formed as a herd.

niallb · 23-08-2015 9:55am

Link to that here on the BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2796633.stm

Nice find. I'll post it up on the facebook page, as the owners aren't regulars here.

tayto lover · 23-08-2015 11:03am

I still find it very unbelievable that 100 animals could go missing without trace.
Something fishy going on here.

Qualitymark · 24-08-2015 8:04am

tayto lover wrote: »

I still find it very unbelievable that 100 animals could go missing without trace.
Something fishy going on here.

Is there, though? How stringent is the evidence chain between slaughterhouses and shops?

It's like the thefts of copper piping and wiring and lead from rooves and bronze and steel sculptures - stopped dead in its tracks in Britain when they changed the rules for scrapyards so that all transactions were through cards and banks, no cash deals.

It's like the way bike thefts are a huge, huge industry - it's possible to steal a bike worth €500 and sell it for €200 because its an unregulated industry. If all bike frame numbers were registered and checked on every sale, and if all sales had to be through cards, this immense underground criminal network would simply fade away within weeks.

Edit: What's the story with the stolen lambs with "poisonous meat"? http://www.thejournal.ie/tyrone-farm-lambs-2287694-Aug2015/

ganmo · 24-08-2015 9:31am

Probably injected for fluke or a long acting wormer. They carry serious warnings re accidental injection and keeping away from dogs due to side effects

_Brian · 24-08-2015 11:34am

tayto lover wrote: »

I still find it very unbelievable that 100 animals could go missing without trace.
Something fishy going on here.

Have the photographs of the trucks ever been released ??

tayto lover · 24-08-2015 2:28pm

_Brian wrote: »

Have the photographs of the trucks ever been released ??

I haven't seen any pictures as yet and also wonder why.
You would think that this would have been done at the earliest opportunity but it was not seemingly.
Leaves me thinking that all is not as reported.

greysides · 24-08-2015 2:36pm

Post #191 was a while ago so I'll repeat it again........

greysides wrote: »

[mod]There is to be no more speculation like this post and, to a lesser degree, the one above it. We do not know the circumstances. Simple as! The people involved are entitled not to have their reputations impugned by smear and innuendo on a national billboard. Future posts along a similar line will face infraction![/mod]

whelan2 · 24-08-2015 2:48pm

greysides wrote: »

Post #191 was a while ago so I'll repeat it again........

would it not be better to close this thread so?

niallb · 24-08-2015 2:52pm

Pictures can't be shared as there is an ongoing investigation.

It's pointless sitting around here on boards speculating.

The Dillons aren't boardsies, and just popped in to thank people for support on the thread when it happened.

If you want some more recent updates, look at the Find Our Livestock facebook page.
There's a very disillusioned post from the 11th August.
You can read it in full on Facebook, but some here:

Find our Livestock on Facebook wrote:

August 11

I'm not getting in to it but today it became clear that those involved in the theft can indeed live without fear of repercussion...
...
For now we will be suspending our media campaign. I am so sorry that my huge efforts to at least implement change for all of our future stock security have been a waste of time. My only advice is go hard on security-electric fatwas,cctv,house/yard alarms and security lights,dogs,freeze bearding-do whatever you can. Because of the size of our theft,not one of you is safe. I expect to see a serious increase in rustling now...
...
I hope at some stage I will be able to post here that something good has come from the situation,but today is not that day.
Again,huge thanks to all of you...
...
You are amazing people in an amazing industry in the best country in the world.
I pray that this never happens to you.

Sincerest thanks,
The Dillon family

Qualitymark · 24-08-2015 5:00pm

What on earth is freeze bearding?

I'm very sorry for these people - what a terrible thing to happen, to have your whole livelihood stolen in a night.

greysides · 24-08-2015 6:36pm

Qualitymark wrote: »

What on earth is freeze bearding?

Most likely a typo... freeze-branding.

greysides · 24-08-2015 6:40pm

Until there is more news..

Posted by Find our Livestock on Facebook
August 11

I'm not getting in to it but today it became clear that those involved in the theft can indeed live without fear of repercussion...
...
For now we will be suspending our media campaign.
...
I hope at some stage I will be able to post here that something good has come from the situation,but today is not that day.
Again,huge thanks to all of you...

Sincerest thanks,
The Dillon family

Thread closed.

Qualitymark · 01-10-2015 4:26pm

http://www.thejournal.ie/livestock-robbery-midlands-2362336-Oct2015/

(sorry if this has been posted already).

greysides · 01-10-2015 8:48pm

Thread opened in light of new developments.

roosterman71 · 01-10-2015 8:49pm

Thanks greysides

Arrest made in Donegal
http://www.farmersjournal.ie/arrest-in-kilbeggan-rustling-case-190949/

MF290 · 01-10-2015 9:55pm

Bit on cattle theft on prime time atm, they might say something.

Edit: nope

Kamili · 02-10-2015 9:08am

Delighted they finally made an arrest. I hope something comes of it now.

Disappointing that prime time didn't cover it though.

Nekarsulm · 02-10-2015 10:43am

Prime time has become more of a tabloid programme than "Ireland's flagship investigative programme"
Flagship podium for a few presenters, in my opinion.

Kamili · 02-10-2015 10:48am

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Prime time has become more of a tabloid programme than "Ireland's flagship investigative programme"
Flagship podium for a few presenters, in my opinion.

I have to agree, I rarely watch it anymore.

whelan2 · 02-10-2015 11:01am

Any update on this has he been released/charged or how long can he be questioned for?

_Tombstone_ · 02-10-2015 11:04am

Kamili wrote: »

I have to agree, I rarely watch it anymore.

Even when it covered something important, nothing came of it so its worse than useless.

MfMan · 02-10-2015 11:26am

Kamili wrote: »

Delighted they finally made an arrest. I hope something comes of it now.

Disappointing that prime time didn't cover it though.

May have come too late to include it properly; the existing item was probably filmed a few days ago and the program also had 2 other reports to air. Also, the Donegal thing may still be sub judice.

Farmer · 02-10-2015 11:26am

I imagine that there's a limit to what they can show in a case where someone has just been arrested. We wouldn't want his solicitor to be able to argue that a jury were influenced by what was shown on tv

ganmo · 02-10-2015 12:38pm

Released with file sent to dpp

dohc turbo2 · 02-10-2015 1:30pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Any update on this has he been released/charged or how long can he be questioned for?

Released without charge today

roosterman71 · 02-10-2015 7:45pm

http://www.farmersjournal.ie/man-released-without-charge-in-kilbeggan-rustling-case-190981/

Good loser · 02-10-2015 11:06pm

Five months was a nothing sentence on that Cranston guy with the stolen cattle. And he didn't plead guilty or give evidence. If he cooperated it might be something in his favour.

How come the Traditional Meat Co didn't notice the card was for a 10 month old animal or the vet/Agricultural Officer in the plant? Almost 400 kg deadweight ffs!

My factory returns have the age of all animals printed - down to the day.

Farmer · 03-10-2015 12:11am

Good loser wrote: »

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..........How come the Traditional Meat Co didn't notice the card was for a 10 month old animal or the vet/Agricultural Officer in the plant? Almost 400 kg deadweight ffs!........

You'd imagine that something like this should automatically get flagged by a computer, either in the factory or the department rather than depending on a random visit by an inspector.

20silkcut · 03-10-2015 9:23am

Good loser wrote: »

Five months was a nothing sentence on that Cranston guy with the stolen cattle. And he didn't plead guilty or give evidence. If he cooperated it might be something in his favour.

How come the Traditional Meat Co didn't notice the card was for a 10 month old animal or the vet/Agricultural Officer in the plant? Almost 400 kg deadweight ffs!

My factory returns have the age of all animals printed - down to the day.

A lot of people don't take the cards seriously especially with regard to DOB etc. They are just a piece of card and could very easily be forged or tampered with, by even the most basic PC printer system.
The card should have a photo of the animal.

patsy_mccabe · 03-10-2015 9:39am

20silkcut wrote: »

A lot of people don't take the cards seriously especially with regard to DOB etc. They are just a piece of card and could very easily be forged or tampered with, by even the most basic PC printer system.
The card should have a photo of the animal.

I'd say half the photos would be like the Donedeal ones.

tomieen jones · 03-10-2015 10:34am

20silkcut wrote: »

A lot of people don't take the cards seriously especially with regard to DOB etc. They are just a piece of card and could very easily be forged or tampered with, by even the most basic PC printer system.
The card should have a photo of the animal.

How would that work? All angus look the same

Herd of cattle stolen- IFA €10,000 REWARD

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