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lalababa · 04-09-2019 11:12pm

amacca wrote: »

200 kg charolais 715?????

what, seriously

Yep, WTF is going on???

FarmerBrowne · 04-09-2019 11:31pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Not that I've seen but then I don't see that much forward stores sold being honest, it's more weanlings/runners and cows. I'm told the bullock trade is worsening by the day, there's 700 odd heifers for Elphin tomorrow so may call in for a look in the evening. The cow trade is about the steadiest market atm, there's good demand for fleshed and store cows of all types and there starting to become plentiful.

Did you get to Elphin? If so what was it like?

Albert Johnson · 04-09-2019 11:40pm

FarmerBrowne wrote: »

Did you get to Elphin? If so what was it like?

No sadly everything conspired against me today, I had intended on going up this evening but I got a last minute phone call from a friend in need and by the time he was sorted I was too tired tbh. There's a special bullock sale next Wednesday so I will try and get to that, there was a time I was in Elphin every week but life gets in the way lately. There's a special sale of hogget's and breeding ewe's in Drumshanbo tomorrow so getting ready for that, it'll be another long day but it's all good craic.

FarmerBrowne · 04-09-2019 11:44pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

No sadly everything conspired against me today, I had intended on going up this evening but I got a last minute phone call from a friend in need and by the time he was sorted I was too tired tbh. There's a special bullock sale next Wednesday so I will try and get to that, there was a time I was in Elphin every week but life gets in the way lately. There's a special sale of hogget's and breeding ewe's in Drumshanbo tomorrow so getting ready for that, it'll be another long day but it's all good craic.

I heard anything 500 - 600kg was consistently getting €700 with the weight which is better than the €2 per kg going the rounds lately.

Robson99 · 04-09-2019 11:49pm

FarmerBrowne wrote: »

I heard anything 500 - 600kg was consistently getting €700 with the weight which is better than the €2 per kg going the rounds lately.

Most cattle there would be top quality and would be well above €2 / kg

Albert Johnson · 04-09-2019 11:53pm

FarmerBrowne wrote: »

I heard anything 500 - 600kg was consistently getting €700 with the weight which is better than the €2 per kg going the rounds lately.

I didn't hear any reports tbh be they good or bad. Taking 550kg and €700 over is €1250 or roughly €2.25-2.30 a kg by my calculations. It's on the higher side of the prices I've heard in recent times but not unrealistic imo, granted there's always great cattle at those special sale's so maybe not totally representative of the average trade for average types. I wonder was there any northern customers considering sterling isn't that strong atm, there's usually a few men for anything with bulling potential.

Welding Rod · 05-09-2019 7:27am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Saw some char weanlings selling today in Ennis
Qty WEight Price DOB
2 478kg 850 ....aug 18
2 410 880 ....dec 18
1 320 890 ....feb 19
1 360 980 ....feb 19

Explain those prices.........

But there was plenty poor prices as well. Especially in the heifer ring.
I bought a lovely pair lim heifers. Feb born. Bit of Charolais breeding in them as well. 275kg. €790.
AI bred and €128 replacement index. I’d be sick if I was the seller.

patsy_mccabe · 05-09-2019 7:59am

Welding Rod wrote: »

But there was plenty poor prices as well. Especially in the heifer ring.
I bought a lovely pair lim heifers. Feb born. Bit of Charolais breeding in them as well. 275kg. €790.
AI bred and €128 replacement index. I’d be sick if I was the seller.

I don't think he'd be sick to be honest. He's not loosing money at those prices, for the year that's in it and when you compare to others in different sectors of the beef trade.

Limestone Cowboy · 05-09-2019 9:23am

Welding Rod wrote: »

But there was plenty poor prices as well. Especially in the heifer ring.
I bought a lovely pair lim heifers. Feb born. Bit of Charolais breeding in them as well. 275kg. €790.
AI bred and €128 replacement index. I’d be sick if I was the seller.

You'd buy a cracking year and a half heifer for 900.

josephsoap · 05-09-2019 9:35am

Are any factories taking full bull beef at 16 months anymore ?

The CH bulls born in Feb/Mar don’t be long touching 500kg

grassroot1 · 05-09-2019 12:10pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I don't think he'd be sick to be honest. He's not loosing money at those prices, for the year that's in it and when you compare to others in different sectors of the beef trade.

ask him does he want more i would take hand and all

Waternotsoda · 11-09-2019 8:01pm

I was passing Mount bellew mart this evening and called in. No cattle showed up to be sold. So it was cancelled.

Albert Johnson · 11-09-2019 8:45pm

Waternotsoda wrote: »

I was passing Mount bellew mart this evening and called in. No cattle showed up to be sold. So it was cancelled.

I wouldn't be familiar with mountbellew mart but I don't think it does much of a cattle trade from talking to friends that frequent it. I'm open to correction on that statement but there's plenty of marts in the West that are struggling for numbers every week, a sale being cancelled due to poor turnout isn't unheard of. If the likes of Balla, Dowra or Castlerea start cancelling sales due to no stock then I'd take more notice.

epfff · 11-09-2019 9:09pm

Waternotsoda wrote: »

I was passing Mount bellew mart this evening and called in. No cattle showed up to be sold. So it was cancelled.

Regularly happens
Im local and i stoped going due to small numbers.
Its very close to tuam Ballinasloe and Roscommon that all have large weekly sales nearly year round.

bosallagh88 · 11-09-2019 9:17pm

Waternotsoda wrote: »

I was passing Mount bellew mart this evening and called in. No cattle showed up to be sold. So it was cancelled.

You would think marts in the west would be getting plenty of cattle with the time of year and wet weather where are people heading with cattle instead? Are people finding that weanling prices are holding up fairly well?

Robson99 · 11-09-2019 9:20pm

epfff wrote: »

Regularly happens
Im local and i stoped going due to small numbers.
Its very close to tuam Ballinasloe and Roscommon that all have large weekly sales nearly year round.

Add in Athenry and Loughrea and castlerea that's 6 other marts within a 20 mile radius of it

Albert Johnson · 11-09-2019 9:36pm

bosallagh88 wrote: »

Waternotsoda wrote: »

I was passing Mount bellew mart this evening and called in. No cattle showed up to be sold. So it was cancelled.

You would think marts in the west would be getting plenty of cattle with the time of year and wet weather where are people heading with cattle instead? Are people finding that weanling prices are holding up fairly well?

It's still relatively early in the trading season imo, the sales will get bigger every week especially if the weather stays broken but it's usually mid October before numbers peak locally. That's not to say that there aren't plenty of cattle on offer in certain marts and plenty more to come. In my opinion there's too many marts in the West and there won't be sufficient throughput for them all moving forward, for every mart doing well there's another just surviving.

As for the weanling trade the divide between good and bad quality stock is ever widening. Good weanlings are as dear as ever and average to plain types are taking a beating, the export market is propping up the trade for the average bull calf but the equivalent heifer calf isn't in any great demand. Without trying to be pessimistic I think the current trade could be, should be and quite possibly will be worse before it gets better unless something akin to a miracle occurs regarding the beef trade.

Waternotsoda · 11-09-2019 9:38pm

I know roscommon has heavy charolais. But from the point of view of AA or FRX which mart is best.

Albert Johnson · 11-09-2019 9:43pm

Waternotsoda wrote: »

I know roscommon has heavy charolais. But from the point of view of AA or FRX which mart is best.

Definitely stay away from Roscommon with plain stock, it's not a town for anything only quality cattle. Have you heifers or bullocks/bulls? I'd recommend Castlerea if your wanting to stay in that geographical area, there's always lots of average type stock and corresponding buyers in it any week I'm there. If your prepared to go further north then Drumshanbo or Dowra would both have clients for those sort of stock.

Waternotsoda · 11-09-2019 9:45pm

I tend to go with aax bullocks.

Albert Johnson · 11-09-2019 9:53pm

Waternotsoda wrote: »

I tend to go with aax bullocks.

Castlerea is probably as good as any so, I think the bullocks are changing to the Monday sales from this coming Monday but I'm not sure. Anyone see goodish 18 month old continental store bullocks circa 500-550kg sold lately? A man asked me what there worth tonight but I didn't see the like selling in any great numbers lately. Would €2.10-2.30 a kilo be a fair guess?

patsy_mccabe · 11-09-2019 10:24pm

Ennis Mart - Weanling Report;

https://www.thatsfarming.com/marts/ennis-mart-september-10th

FarmerBrowne · 11-09-2019 10:39pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ennis Mart - Weanling Report;

https://www.thatsfarming.com/marts/ennis-mart-september-10th

Mental, was it Einstein that said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

grassroot1 · 11-09-2019 10:40pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ennis Mart - Weanling Report;

https://www.thatsfarming.com/marts/ennis-mart-september-10th

Jaysus Patsy if you come over for the ploughing bring back some of my weanlings and sell them in Ennis for me!!!

patsy_mccabe · 11-09-2019 10:44pm

Must be heading for the boat lads. Doubt if local guys are buying them.

High bike · 11-09-2019 10:46pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Ennis Mart - Weanling Report;

https://www.thatsfarming.com/marts/ennis-mart-september-10th

obviously the usual very good class of weanlings in Ennis

tanko · 11-09-2019 10:55pm

FarmerBrowne wrote: »

Mental, was it Einstein that said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Those prices are the exception and not typical of what is going on in marts at the moment. A neighbour of mine sold a Jan born Lim bull off THZ yesterday, as nice an animal as you could hope to see, 450kgs for €895, a brutal price.
Basically gave him away.

Albert Johnson · 11-09-2019 10:56pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Must be heading for the boat lads. Doubt if local guys are buying them.

I don't think the shipper's would be at the races at any of the prices quoted in that article Patsy but perhaps I'm wrong. The two outfits I see buying for the export job are buying a mixed bag of very average to goodish type weanlings 200-350kg circa €2-2.50 a kg. The farmers locally are well able to outbid them for anything fancy so I'd imagine that's where all those high priced stock are going.

orm0nd · 11-09-2019 11:02pm

shippers were in Ennis , mostly light bulls from the runner ring,

a couple of marts have sent out texts looking for same.

Albert Johnson · 11-09-2019 11:04pm

tanko wrote: »

FarmerBrowne wrote: »

Mental, was it Einstein that said that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Those prices are the exception and not typical of what is going on in marts at the moment. A neighbour of mine sold a Jan born Lim bull off THZ yesterday, as nice an animal as you could hope to see, 450kgs for €895, a brutal price.
Basically gave him away.

Roscommon?

tanko · 11-09-2019 11:11pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Roscommon?

Ballyjamesduff.

High bike · 11-09-2019 11:14pm

tanko wrote: »

Those prices are the exception and not typical of what is going on in marts at the moment. A neighbour of mine sold a Jan born Lim bull off THZ yesterday, as nice an animal as you could hope to see, 450kgs for €895, a brutal price.
Basically gave him away.

thats for sure saw a smasher of a black limo 330 kgs sold for 730 in Kilmallock last night,would have made at least 830 last year

Hard Knocks · 12-09-2019 7:28am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Must be heading for the boat lads. Doubt if local guys are buying them.

3 shippers in Carrigallen on Saturday
A good calf went a good price
Saw a few 320kg Charolais make €900-950

There was a few nice calves with good weights but hadn’t great ends (probably due to loss of power in milk & grass) not do as good

Get the feeder / troughs out

Keep Sluicing · 13-09-2019 11:00pm

My dad was in skibb mart today. We have conclusive proif that farmer are fecking mad. 450kg bullocks making €1150

Murang · 13-09-2019 11:06pm

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

My dad was in skibb mart today. We have conclusive proif that farmer are fecking mad. 450kg bullocks making €1150

What breed were they

lalababa · 16-09-2019 12:57am

I don't see much of a twist from an animal heading to the factory within 36months (now) , if it costs much more than 2euro/kg as young stock.
Sorry to weanling producers but that's how I see it:).

john mayo 10 · 16-09-2019 12:25pm

In ballina today for a look. Weanling heifer ring hadn't started when I left. Some Weanling bull prices below.

360 kgs 830 euro golden ch
360 kgs 865 euro white ch
270 kgs 850 euro golden ch
292 kgs 795 euro white ch
332 kgs 840 euro golden ch
372 kgs 765 euro lim
290 kgs 770 euro white ch
312 kgs 840 euro white ch

kk.man · 16-09-2019 1:35pm

john mayo 10 wrote: »

In ballina today for a look. Weanling heifer ring hadn't started when I left. Some Weanling bull prices below.

360 kgs 830 euro golden ch
360 kgs 865 euro white ch
270 kgs 850 euro golden ch
292 kgs 795 euro white ch
332 kgs 840 euro golden ch
372 kgs 765 euro lim
290 kgs 770 euro white ch
312 kgs 840 euro white ch

Those prices are loss making and at best break even for the suckler cows.

White Clover · 16-09-2019 1:37pm

Was there anyone in gortatlea last Wednesday night? I heard of outrageous prices being paid.

High bike · 16-09-2019 1:57pm

kk.man wrote: »

Those prices are loss making and at best break even for the suckler cows.

ur right there break even at best and that's for top class weanlings no doubt,
Take 150 to 200 off for plainer calves and where does that leave u

Albert Johnson · 16-09-2019 3:36pm

I called into Ballina as I was passing, the bull weanling seemed a good enough trade for anything quality and not to heavy. There were a lot of light calves (sub 250kg) which I thought unusual compared to other years. They were a solid trade and made mostly from €2.50-3 euro a kilo and up to €3.50 a kilo for the best of them. The general run of weanlings were in the 280-400kg bracket and we're making from €2-2.50 a kilo with exceptional types clinching €2.80 a kilo, the further over 350kg the closer to €2 a kilo they seemed to be going.

240kg March born LMx @ €700
180kg May born CHx @ €580
250kg April born AAx @€;550
315kg February born LMx @ €700 (very average and thought it a good price tbh)
385kg December born LMx @ €830 (he was a miller of a calf but black LMx not a good seller).
375kg December born CHx @ 975
505kg January born CHx @ €1125 (super bull)
605kg June 18 born SIMx @ €1050 (beefy gutty type bull.)
540kg SIMx same as above @ €860.
I didn't venture over near the heifers so I can't comment on what they were like.

Bass Reeves · 16-09-2019 10:44pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I called into Ballina as I was passing, the bull weanling seemed a good enough trade for anything quality and not to heavy. There were a lot of light calves (sub 250kg) which I thought unusual compared to other years. They were a solid trade and made mostly from €2.50-3 euro a kilo and up to €3.50 a kilo for the best of them. The general run of weanlings were in the 280-400kg bracket and we're making from €2-2.50 a kilo with exceptional types clinching €2.80 a kilo, the further over 350kg the closer to €2 a kilo they seemed to be going.

240kg March born LMx @ €700
180kg May born CHx @ €580
250kg April born AAx @€;550
315kg February born LMx @ €700 (very average and thought it a good price tbh)
385kg December born LMx @ €830 (he was a miller of a calf but black LMx not a good seller).
375kg December born CHx @ 975
505kg January born CHx @ €1125 (super bull)
605kg June 18 born SIMx @ €1050 (beefy gutty type bull.)
540kg SIMx same as above @ €860.
I didn't venture over near the heifers so I can't comment on what they were like.

There will be a touch in that 540kg SIM bull

dohc turbo2 · 16-09-2019 10:49pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

There will be a touch in that 540kg SIM bull

Are they still looking for bulls u16 months or what’s the story with bulls now

Albert Johnson · 17-09-2019 12:37pm

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I called into Ballina as I was passing, the bull weanling seemed a good enough trade for anything quality and not to heavy. There were a lot of light calves (sub 250kg) which I thought unusual compared to other years. They were a solid trade and made mostly from €2.50-3 euro a kilo and up to €3.50 a kilo for the best of them. The general run of weanlings were in the 280-400kg bracket and we're making from €2-2.50 a kilo with exceptional types clinching €2.80 a kilo, the further over 350kg the closer to €2 a kilo they seemed to be going.

240kg March born LMx @ €700
180kg May born CHx @ €580
250kg April born AAx @€;550
315kg February born LMx @ €700 (very average and thought it a good price tbh)
385kg December born LMx @ €830 (he was a miller of a calf but black LMx not a good seller).
375kg December born CHx @ 975
505kg January born CHx @ €1125 (super bull)
605kg June 18 born SIMx @ €1050 (beefy gutty type bull.)
540kg SIMx same as above @ €860.
I didn't venture over near the heifers so I can't comment on what they were like.

There will be a touch in that 540kg SIM bull

I suppose there probably will be Bass but it's not exactly a sustainable setup either, sadly the only way to make a profit on beef cattle atm requires someone else to get a serious burning. Granted the lad that held onto them bulls up till now without some mitigating circumstances needs his head examined imo. Bar the very tops of bulls it's not paying to feed above 350kg at the current time.

valtra2 · 23-09-2019 8:14pm

First of the bulls gone tonight. Adv 600kg Sept 18, 1200, not the best but ok for the year that's in it.

Albert Johnson · 23-09-2019 8:25pm

valtra2 wrote: »

First of the bulls gone tonight. Adv 600kg Sept 18, 1200, not the best but ok for the year that's in it.

I'd agree that it's about the price of them atm, €2 a kg seems to be the run of it for goodish stores of any type at those weight's. I keep telling lads that bar the very tops of calves it's not paying to feed above 350kg at the present time. That's not much addition to anyone with heavy bulls currently but lighter weanlings should be offloaded as they come fit. The bull weanling trade is being underpinned by the export market and hopefully this will continue for the rest of the trading season. Heifer's are a lesser trade especially plainer types and I can't see much more of a bite coming into the market for them tbh.

Muckit · 23-09-2019 8:29pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I'd agree that it's about the price of them atm, €2 a kg seems to be the run of it for goodish stores of any type at those weight's.

That's what l'd be thinking. Will be out hopefully in a few weeks buying in and not going above this no matter how sweet she is!!

Albert Johnson · 23-09-2019 8:45pm

Muckit wrote: »

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I'd agree that it's about the price of them atm, €2 a kg seems to be the run of it for goodish stores of any type at those weight's.

That's what l'd be thinking. Will be out hopefully in a few weeks buying in and not going above this no matter how sweet she is!!

There isn't that much cattle being showed locally atm. It'll be interesting to see what happens when the glut of weanlings and stores start to appear, the live trade is staying artificially high especially in the heifer ring imo given the current beef trade. Certain types of stock are as dear as ever atm while more are a bad trade, it's very dependent on what you have imo. I saw a bundle of AAx stores that were sold last week, circa 500kg @ €1.88, they were average suckler bred stores and I'd have thought that in or around €2 a kg would have been there price in good times. Similarly another bundle of nice CHx weanlings 220-250kg that were bought last week are standing €690 apiece which is €30 more than last year this is despite there 2017 born comrades killing €240 less. It's hard to weigh it all up atm.

Limestone Cowboy · 23-09-2019 8:51pm

Muckit wrote: »

That's what l'd be thinking. Will be out hopefully in a few weeks buying in and not going above this no matter how sweet she is!!

You'd have an empty box going home if you were in kilfenora tonight so muckit!

Muckit · 23-09-2019 8:53pm

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

You'd have an empty box going home if you were in kilfenora tonight so muckit!

Better an empty box than a dear one!!

l don't usially stray outside of Ballinasloe anyways!

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