2019 All Ireland Senior Football Championship Mod note: Post #1

dobman88 · 20-07-2019 11:40pm

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Where are these odds? I'm going to put €50 on it if legit.

Excited for the double header tomorrow. I feel a dark blue cloud looming over it though which puts a real dampener on affairs. The feeling of championship magic is long gone.

I linked it above if you wanna have a quick scroll

threeball · 20-07-2019 11:42pm

RoyalCelt wrote: »

dobman88 wrote: »

Dublin are 25/1 for the 10 in a row for those that mentioned it

Where are these odds? I'm going to put €50 on it if legit.

Excited for the double header tomorrow. I feel a dark blue cloud looming over it though which puts a real dampener on affairs. The feeling of championship magic is long gone.

I had no interest in today's games but tomorrow is a genuinely exciting double header. Enjoy it as you're in to the last couple of unpredictable games this year. I think from next year attendances are in serious bother. The dubs aren't coming already. What will next year be like with no history being made.

RoyalCelt · 20-07-2019 11:48pm

akelly02 wrote: »

Bull****e . Imagine putting out half a team in front of the few thousand cork fans that travelled up to support their county .

Then announce the team early and don't pull the wool over your fans eyes. If they still want to pay in that's their choice. I'm sure they'd be happier in a semi final vs Donegal/mayo/kerry/meath then the dead rubber they now have.

threeball wrote: »

They is no doubt they are a great team and play outstanding football but unfortunately there will always be a caveat due to the funding and the unfair advantages surrounding croke park etc. The unparalled dominance will be the death knell of the game. In 10yrs time hurling will be the dominant sport with football a minority sideshow.

To me this is the light at the end of the tunnel. This is the chance for our ancient sport of hurling to finally spread across the land. In 20 years time when Dublin have won the 24 in a row some of these football mad counties like mayo and Meath will have embraced hurling. Maybe that's the GAA's plan all along. Genius! I'd also like to think after the damaging dominance of KK finally lifted and the recovery firmly underway, that if Dublin ever dominate the hurling (they could), that the traditional hurling counties which hold the power, will tell them to go get f*cked. Split into North/South or have fun playing by yourself.

jr86 · 20-07-2019 11:50pm

km79 wrote: »

I am
There is no way they win 10 a row

None of us have seen even a 5 in a row before. Plenty of us haven't seen 4 or even 3. We're not conditioned to expect this kind of dominance in the sport. We have mostly grown up with plenty teams in contention and all Irelands being shared between a plethora of sides

What we are now seeing is something novel, that we're expecting it to end any minute. Surely 10 is unfathomable? For no reason other than - this is GAA and that surely someone must come soon and end this. But if you sit back and think... Well why can't it happen? This side has virtually no weaknesses. They are eating teams alive for breakfast. Their only worthy opponent in recent years has now fallen back into the pack. They have won 4 in a row with a massive pool of players. Each year they discover new talents. The conveyor belt is endless. Funding, population etc etc

why can't this be possible? Who can honestly stop it? They're essentially 10 pts better than anyone now, that's a bloody huge gap to make up. Their best players are in their mid 20s - with years left. The older brigade will be simply replaced, just like the greats before them like A Brogan, Flynn, Connolly and B Brogan

Dessie Farrell signs off his 2005 autobiography wondering when will Dublin get their house in order and start winning Leinster consistently again. The thought of them winning all but one until 2019 is ludicrous. But it happened

And just like we never thought we'd see dominance in Leinster like they now have, simply because it's not what we expect to happen , there's no reason to suggest it won't happen in the AI either - when we sit back and examine it objectively

Bonniedog · 20-07-2019 11:51pm

Good job Seán Boylan wasn't a whinging loser or Meath would never have won anything.

Get your big boy pants on RC.

RoyalCelt · 20-07-2019 11:52pm

threeball wrote: »

I had no interest in today's games but tomorrow is a genuinely exciting double header. Enjoy it as you're in to the last couple of unpredictable games this year. I think from next year attendances are in serious bother. The dubs aren't coming already. What will next year be like with no history being made.

Cheers and you too!

This year as a meath fan I attended meath vs Ofally/carlow/laois/Clare/donegal. I only skipped the Dublin match. I went to all home league matches and 2 aways. Next year hopefully all league home and away but in Leinster I'll only go to a match if it's in navan. So quite possible I'll skip it altogether. I'll go to the qualifier matches and hopefully the super 8's. As a diehard meath fan I find it harder and harder to justify attending the summer matches.

km79 · 20-07-2019 11:53pm

jr86 wrote: »

None of us have seen even a 5 in a row before. Plenty of us haven't seen 4 or even 3. We're not conditioned to expect this kind of dominance in the sport. We have mostly grown up with plenty teams in contention and all Irelands being shared between a plethora of sides

What we are now seeing is something novel, that we're expecting it to end any minute. Surely 10 is unfathomable? For no reason other than - this is GAA and that surely someone must come soon and end this. But if you sit back and think... Well why can't it happen? This side has virtually no weaknesses. They are eating teams alive for breakfast. Their only worthy opponent in recent years has now fallen back into the pack. They have won 4 in a row with a massive pool of players. Each year they discover new talents. The conveyor belt is endless. Funding, population etc etc

why can't this be possible? Who can honestly stop it? They're essentially 10 pts better than anyone now, that's a bloody huge gap to make up. Their best players are in their mid 20s - with years left. The older brigade will be simply replaced, just like the greats before them like A Brogan, Flynn, Connolly and B Brogan

Dessie Farrell signs off his 2005 autobiography wondering when will Dublin get their house in order and start winning Leinster consistently again. The thought of them winning all but one until 2019 is ludicrous. But it happened

And just like we never thought we'd see dominance in Leinster like they now have, simply because it's not what we expect to happen , there's no reason to suggest it won't happen in the AI either - when we sit back and examine it objectively

5 in a row hasn’t happened yet
There is a sting in the tail this summer ......

Bass Reeves · 20-07-2019 11:55pm

dobman88 wrote: »

They are.

5 in a row, 1/2
6 in a row , 13/8
7 in a row, 10/3
8 in a row, 10/1
9 in a row, 18/1
10 in a row, 25/1

Scroll to the bottom here

https://mobile.boylesports.com/sports/gaa/specials

dobman88 wrote: »

Well when I went checking the last day, the only thing that stopped me putting a bet on was my head telling me they cant be invincible surely. The 5 in a row is a nailed on certainty but some team will have to come from somewhere in the next 5 years surely.

Bookie's Children never go barefoot. While as you say the 5 in a row is nailed, there are 11 of the panel that are over 30 and another two that are 29 years old. after the 5 in a row you will see a few retirements and a loss of hunger in others. What is may be worrying for Dublin longterm is that while it is bringing in a player or two at most every year at some stage there will be a natural clear out. At present on the starting team there is 6ish that are over 30 years and another 2 that are 29 years of age. They are a great team but Galvin has a tendency at present to drift back towards older players over the last 2-3 years to fill important positions. They will win this year but I think they will struggle next year. Like any team it will take a few years to rebuild.

jr86 · 20-07-2019 11:57pm

threeball wrote: »

I think it will be a self inflicted wound when it comes. It will be hard to keep the levels of interest every year when everyone has numerous all Irelands in their pocket. They'll slip up against a hungry team and regroup the following year to reassert their dominance.

Actually very good point

I did ask in my post who could beat them, but the answer may actually lie closer to home - as in themselves!

It's not impossible. But while it'll be a great day for someone else in the sun, as you say - the likely case is dominance reasserted again the year after!

threeball · 21-07-2019 12:00am

km79 wrote: »

jr86 wrote: »

None of us have seen even a 5 in a row before. Plenty of us haven't seen 4 or even 3. We're not conditioned to expect this kind of dominance in the sport. We have mostly grown up with plenty teams in contention and all Irelands being shared between a plethora of sides

What we are now seeing is something novel, that we're expecting it to end any minute. Surely 10 is unfathomable? For no reason other than - this is GAA and that surely someone must come soon and end this. But if you sit back and think... Well why can't it happen? This side has virtually no weaknesses. They are eating teams alive for breakfast. Their only worthy opponent in recent years has now fallen back into the pack. They have won 4 in a row with a massive pool of players. Each year they discover new talents. The conveyor belt is endless. Funding, population etc etc

why can't this be possible? Who can honestly stop it? They're essentially 10 pts better than anyone now, that's a bloody huge gap to make up. Their best players are in their mid 20s - with years left. The older brigade will be simply replaced, just like the greats before them like A Brogan, Flynn, Connolly and B Brogan

Dessie Farrell signs off his 2005 autobiography wondering when will Dublin get their house in order and start winning Leinster consistently again. The thought of them winning all but one until 2019 is ludicrous. But it happened

And just like we never thought we'd see dominance in Leinster like they now have, simply because it's not what we expect to happen , there's no reason to suggest it won't happen in the AI either - when we sit back and examine it objectively

5 in a row hasn’t happened yet
There is a sting in the tail this summer ......

We heard the same for 4 in a row. Personally I'd predict 7 in a row before the defeat comes. Semi final with 15000 at the game.

jr86 · 21-07-2019 12:03am

km79 wrote: »

5 in a row hasn’t happened yet
There is a sting in the tail this summer ......

God bless your optimism KM. And a great mayo supporter

However - imo

A guy not named Federer, djokovic, Nadal winning the US Open
Hamilton not winning the drivers championship
Neither City or Liverpool winning the league
Celtic not winning the SPL

I would rate any of these things happening as about as likely as Dublin not winning sam this year

blanch152 · 21-07-2019 12:06am

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Bookie's Children never go barefoot. While as you say the 5 in a row is nailed, there are 11 of the panel that are over 30 and another two that are 29 years old. after the 5 in a row you will see a few retirements and a loss of hunger in others. What is may be worrying for Dublin longterm is that while it is bringing in a player or two at most every year at some stage there will be a natural clear out. At present on the starting team there is 6ish that are over 30 years and another 2 that are 29 years of age. They are a great team but Galvin has a tendency at present to drift back towards older players over the last 2-3 years to fill important positions. They will win this year but I think they will struggle next year. Like any team it will take a few years to rebuild.

To a certain extent I agree.

Cluxton, Fitzsimons, McMahon, Daly, O'Sullivan, O'Carroll, Brogan, MacAuley, O'Gara, McManamon, Andrews, Connolly - 12 players over 30, and most may go this year or next year.

It won't affect the first fifteen too much.

Comerford, Murchan, Byrne, Cooper, McCaffrey, McCarthy, Lowndes, Fenton, Howard, Scully, Kilkenny, Costello, Rock, Mannion, O'Callaghan is still a 15 that ranks right up there. However, there are gaps on the bench because Gavin has kept on the older guard, and what is most worrying is the older guard may deserve to have been kept on. Are the likes of Basquel, Mullally, McHugh and the rest going to kick on and take those bench places?

threeball · 21-07-2019 12:07am

RoyalCelt wrote: »

akelly02 wrote: »

Bull****e . Imagine putting out half a team in front of the few thousand cork fans that travelled up to support their county .

Then announce the team early and don't pull the wool over your fans eyes. If they still want to pay in that's their choice. I'm sure they'd be happier in a semi final vs Donegal/mayo/kerry/meath then the dead rubber they now have.

threeball wrote: »

They is no doubt they are a great team and play outstanding football but unfortunately there will always be a caveat due to the funding and the unfair advantages surrounding croke park etc. The unparalled dominance will be the death knell of the game. In 10yrs time hurling will be the dominant sport with football a minority sideshow.

To me this is the light at the end of the tunnel. This is the chance for our ancient sport of hurling to finally spread across the land. In 20 years time when Dublin have won the 24 in a row some of these football mad counties like mayo and Meath will have embraced hurling. Maybe that's the GAA's plan all along. Genius! I'd also like to think after the damaging dominance of KK finally lifted and the recovery firmly underway, that if Dublin ever dominate the hurling (they could), that the traditional hurling counties which hold the power, will tell them to go get f*cked. Split into North/South or have fun playing by yourself.

Hurling will be the big winner and Dublin can invest all they like in that but it won't make a difference. Unless you're invested in the game from 10 or 12yrs old it's already too late. No amount of money or conditioning will change that.
Even KK in their prime were not as dominant as Dublin are now. There was always a chance they'd get caught and nearly did many times, usually pulling away with late blitzes.

Be great to see hurling spread. Just like brexit is the best chance of a united Ireland, Dublin are the best chance of spreading hurling.

blanch152 · 21-07-2019 12:08am

threeball wrote: »

Hurling will be the big winner and Dublin can invest all they like in that but it won't make a difference. Unless you're invested in the game from 10 or 12yrs old it's already too late. No amount of money or conditioning will change that.
Even KK in their prime were not as dominant as Dublin are now. There was always a chance they'd get caught and nearly did many times, usually pulling away with late blitzes.

Be great to see hurling spread. Just like brexit is the best chance of a united Ireland, Dublin are the best chance of spreading hurling.

Statistically, Kilkenny were more dominant.

Five-in-a-row is a game-changer when talking about the greatest ever GAA team.

jr86 · 21-07-2019 12:09am

blanch152 wrote: »

To a certain extent I agree.

Cluxton, Fitzsimons, McMahon, Daly, O'Sullivan, O'Carroll, Brogan, MacAuley, O'Gara, McManamon, Andrews, Connolly - 12 players over 30, and most may go this year or next year.

It won't affect the first fifteen too much.

Comerford, Murchan, Byrne, Cooper, McCaffrey, McCarthy, Lowndes, Fenton, Howard, Scully, Kilkenny, Costello, Rock, Mannion, O'Callaghan is still a 15 that ranks right up there. However, there are gaps on the bench because Gavin has kept on the older guard, and what is most worrying is the older guard may deserve to have been kept on. Are the likes of Basquel, Mullally, McHugh and the rest going to kick on and take those bench places?

You forgot the Smalls there

In fairness I could see ROC playing years yet, he's only 30 this year. And MDMA, Andrews, COS, Philly Mac will go on another few years I reckon - unless they're dropped

threeball · 21-07-2019 12:10am

blanch152 wrote: »

threeball wrote: »

Hurling will be the big winner and Dublin can invest all they like in that but it won't make a difference. Unless you're invested in the game from 10 or 12yrs old it's already too late. No amount of money or conditioning will change that.
Even KK in their prime were not as dominant as Dublin are now. There was always a chance they'd get caught and nearly did many times, usually pulling away with late blitzes.

Be great to see hurling spread. Just like brexit is the best chance of a united Ireland, Dublin are the best chance of spreading hurling.

Statistically, Kilkenny were more dominant.

Five-in-a-row is a game-changer when talking about the greatest ever GAA team.

Lies, Damn lies and statistics

BonnieSituation · 21-07-2019 12:19am

keane2097 wrote: »

Lads a genuine question - does anyone think the 'Croke Park' round is a better idea than a neutral venue round?

* Insert Fry gif *

Being completely serious mon frere, no.

The Croker QFs only ever worked as they were one offs. They can't possibly work in this format.

All things being equal ourselves and yourselves will be in the same group next year and we'll be playing against each other in the "Croke Park Round". Even that doesn't get the motor running like a one off QF or SF would.

It's a shambles.

The Super 8 concept is manna for the likes of Dublin and Kerry knowing full well we'll ALWAYS win 2 out of 3 matches.

(Ignoring yer anomaly last year)

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 12:26am

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Nothing. Do you?

Two extra counties playing though. It's another terrible attendance from the capital. Long gone are the days where most Dub fans would be bothered turning up. Can't blame them

Ah Jack_Goff you should go back to Hoganstand ,your negativity is depressing

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 12:28am

RoyalCelt wrote: »

The report is in and we've decided not enough non nationals are playing in Tallaght so we're giving Dublin an extra 5 million on a 3 year trial. If we don't see results we'll up it to 10.

Ah jack get a grip lad

Fann Linn · 21-07-2019 12:28am

dunnerc wrote: »

Ah Jack_Goff you should go back to Hoganstand ,your negativity is depressing

When Mayo knock fcuk outta them tomorrow he'll be even more depressed.

Dr. Bre · 21-07-2019 12:33am

If only Rossies were given a 20 point head start. So many ifs lol

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 12:39am

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

I think Dublin supporters deep down are bored of this craic too. You won't hear them admit it though, it will be the usual 'team for the ages', 'Kilkenny in da hurling' etc etc.

If you think the interest and attendances are diminishing now, give it another couple of years. Anto and Mary won't even bother going to The Hill, they'll be watching it on the box and turning off after fifteen minutes like the rest of the country.

Nope I think you havnt a clue about Dublin supporters , we have suffered terrible beatings by Kerry , Tyrone, Donegal , Armagh , Meath , Mayo ,Cork etc and trust me , we are loving this golden generation of Dublin dominance.

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 12:42am

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Dunno wft is stopping Gavin putting Brogan on here.

To many ahead of Bernard in the pecking order , Jim doesn't do sentiment.

blanch152 · 21-07-2019 12:43am

dunnerc wrote: »

Nope I think you havnt a clue about Dublin supporters , we have suffered terrible beatings by Kerry , Tyrone, Donegal , Armagh , Meath , Mayo ,Cork etc and trust me , we are loving this golden generation of Dublin dominance.

Absolutely, and you have to remember that we heard for years and years that Kerry only travelled for finals.

If there are Dubs doing the same now, fair play to them.

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 12:45am

RMAOK wrote: »

Refs normally do that when games become lobsided like this one

That's wrong though surely ? rules are rules and they should be applied regardless of the score .

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 12:53am

Downlinz wrote: »

The beauty of sport is from competition and tactics from two closely matched forces under equal conditions. There's nothing to appreciate from professionally conditioned athletes on their home turf running rings around amateurs in front of a half empty uninterested crowd.
It's really sad it's come to this when you think of how exciting and important Gaelic football used to feel.

Really ? Kerry have 81 Munster Titles and 37 All Ireland Titles , weres the competition in Munster ? and the All Ireland series ? total dominance by Kerry
How come you don't find this sad ? Oh wait ……...

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 12:56am

namloc1980 wrote: »

Anything to be said for a mercy rule? 25 more minutes of this!

Did you feel the same in 2008 Dubs v Tyrone or 2009 Dubs v Kerry ? I think not .

Coillte_Bhoy · 21-07-2019 1:04am

blanch152 wrote: »

Absolutely, and you have to remember that we heard for years and years that Kerry only travelled for finals.

If there are Dubs doing the same now, fair play to them.

Ya because its exactly the same:rolleyes:

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:05am

salmocab wrote: »

Think you might need a history lesson.

Think he needs a lot more than a history lesson;)

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:07am

C__MC wrote: »

I'm looking forward to Tyrone and Dublin in omagh
Tyrones running game can hurt the dubs who's defence looks suspect so far this year.

Possibly but im nearly sure this has been said before .

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:09am

namloc1980 wrote: »

In fairness he meant top 3 or 4 against Dublin. If Kerry, Tyrone and Donegal all played Dublin together then 45 vs 15 might even things up a bit.

Nonsense;)

Fann Linn · 21-07-2019 1:09am

dunnerc wrote: »

Possibly but im
nearly sure this has been said before .

The same Tyrone team who struggled against Roscommon last week and Cork today.

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:14am

RoyalCelt wrote: »

I'd personally have been GAA mad all my life. The last few years I've been attending far less football matches and more from other sports like soccer, rugby and hurling.

I remember when KK hammered Limerick and Waterford I felt a dark shadow over the championship. That was thankfully lifted but I feel a much bigger shadow over football now. At least those hurling matches with KK were much more exciting to watch.

Ah that's terrible Jack , you should continue attending more soccer rugby and hurling so , you will feel a whole lot better.:D

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:19am

rainybillwill wrote: »

If the Rossies had got Dublin in the first game in the Hyde it would have been way more competitive. The Rossies had nothing to play for in reality. Dublin are a team made for croke park but if they were in the Hyde it wouldnt be so easy.

Lad Dubs would have walked it in Hyde sorry .

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:21am

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Would you go away and shîte.

Mate you are to polite

rainybillwill · 21-07-2019 1:22am

Would kerry prefer to get knocked out in the semi final then be the team Dublin beat in the final for 5 in a row? A lot of kerry guys retired last year looked like they didnt want to be remembered in kerry as the guy on the kerry panal who couldnt stop dublins 5 in a row.

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:25am

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

Forget 5 in a row Dublin will probably go on to do the 10 in a row in 2024. And remember the surprise win that donegal got over them without that they would be on 7 or 8 in a row already. It’s an unfair competition now it’s basically 1 county vs the rest.

Dry your eyes lad

rainybillwill · 21-07-2019 1:36am

dunnerc wrote: »

Lad Dubs would have walked it in Hyde sorry .

No they wouldnt Dublin are suited to croke park. Look at what mayo did to the rossies in croke park then lost to them in a normal provincial ground.

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:36am

RoyalCelt wrote: »

If you scrap them then there will be 3 less cups for teams to play for. At least counties outside leinster have that.

This mystical top 5 would get nowhere near Dublin. Tyrone and Donegal would do well to lose by 8. Mayo wouldn't get within 10. That leaves kerry. They'd do well to get within 5.

nonsense post , based on what exactly ??

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:40am

threeball wrote: »

You would have a pretty good championship with close unpredictable games..... If Dublin weren't in it.

But they are lol...

dunnerc · 21-07-2019 1:44am

rainybillwill wrote: »

No they wouldnt Dublin are suited to croke park. Look at what mayo did to the rossies in croke park then lost to them in a normal provincial ground.

If you say so -:)

Fann Linn · 21-07-2019 1:47am

rainybillwill wrote: »

No they wouldnt Dublin are suited to croke park. Look at what mayo did to the rossies in croke park then lost to them in a normal provincial ground.

Dublin beat them in the Hyde earlier this year.

ToBeFrank123 · 21-07-2019 1:48am

Fann Linn wrote: »

Dublin beat them in the Hyde earlier this year.

By how much?

Fann Linn · 21-07-2019 1:50am

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

By how much?

Cant recall however google will tell you if your interested.

blowitupref · 21-07-2019 1:53am

One mis-match and one competitive contest last night in Croke park in front a small double header attendance.

I like everyone else expected Dublin to win but i thought Roscommon would give a better account of themselves and i feel the 18 point margin in the end highlighted that their S&C/fitness still needs major improvement before they can handle 2 big games in 7 days against the top 4 teams. The Dubs were in a ruthless mood and even in the last ten minutes they outscored Roscommon 0-7 to a point. The Dubs remain the best and team to beat and its hard to make a case for any team to beat them this summer.

Cork did much better than i expected but they are out of the championship now and will be left to rue letting a 7 point lead slip and where the game was there to be won for them but after defending well 1st half they seemed to lose their way maybe lack of fitness to keep it going for a full 70 minutes? Donnelly, P Harte, C McShane three of Tyrone's best players all stood up when needed in that 2nd half and Tyrone will fancy their chances of reaching back to back AI finals now.

The group now left with two dead rubbers and i really think its time to go back to knock out football for the quarter final stage.

Always_Running · 21-07-2019 3:26am

C__MC wrote: »

I'm looking forward to Tyrone and Dublin in omagh
Tyrones running game can hurt the dubs who's defence looks suspect so far this year.

Are you into shadow boxing?

Its a dead rubber game where both sides won't care who finish top of the group and where both will be resting the majority of their semi final starters.

Always_Running · 21-07-2019 3:47am

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

so you think the losers of a first round ulster championship game coming down and outplaying the winners of connacht doesn't speak volumes

Its what Tyrone do best. Two of their 3 All Ireland's won through the back door. They were knocked out of Ulster early by Monaghan last year ended up beating the Ulster champions (Donegal) by 7 points in Ballybofey and gained revenge in AI semi final v Monaghan. Roscommon lost by 4 points last week by the way not so much "outplayed" as they were by Dublin.

BonnieSituation · 21-07-2019 4:07am

dunnerc wrote: »

That's wrong though surely ? rules are rules and they should be applied regardless of the score .

Or the time on the clock, like a certain Mr Kennelly in 2009...

Shît happens.

BonnieSituation · 21-07-2019 4:37am

dunnerc wrote: »

Mate you are to polite

Wait til you see me when "They" are playing Donegal amárach.

Cosmo Kramer · 21-07-2019 5:05am

threeball wrote: »

Hurling will be the big winner and Dublin can invest all they like in that but it won't make a difference. Unless you're invested in the game from 10 or 12yrs old it's already too late. No amount of money or conditioning will change that.
Even KK in their prime were not as dominant as Dublin are now. There was always a chance they'd get caught and nearly did many times, usually pulling away with late blitzes.

Be great to see hurling spread. Just like brexit is the best chance of a united Ireland, Dublin are the best chance of spreading hurling.

Wishful thinking to be honest, I can't see hurling ever spreading beyond it's current base, other than maybe in Dublin where they can throw a few million at it to develop it from young kids upwards.

There's a space for another sport to take hold in much of rural Ireland alright, but it will be rugby that will fill the void. Successful, identifiable provincial structure, professional setup, international competition for the best players. With the GAA seemingly doing everything it can to alienate its traditional base on the football side it's only a matter of time.

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