Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

Stop moaning ffs · 29-05-2019 9:24pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Its laughable but a FF/Green coalition might be the most likely government after the next election. How things have come full circle.

It’s even funnier seeing the FG spinbots going full tilt against SF over numerous threads the past few days.
And it’s as obvious AF.

They really think we’re dumb enough to fall for that.

Idbatterim · 29-05-2019 9:29pm

I don’t Know if the greens will get the size of bounce they got in the locals, in the generals. It could even be a ff / fg/ greens or Labour or social Democrat etc coalition

gormdubhgorm · 29-05-2019 9:34pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Its laughable but a FF/Green coalition could be the most likely government after the next election. How things have come full circle.

Then the Greens will get chewed up and spat out and they would have to rebuild again.
Or have times changed and the idealistic youth have finally taken over?

I am starting to think they might be have the right idea even though I think the Green's are a bit wishy washy, at least they are something different to the status quo.

FG and FF are virtually the same brand with different names - history will not allow them to combine.
Labour do not know what they are.
Sinn Fein are 'Sinn Fein' and are trying to gradually water down thier Sinn Feiness to make themselves palatable to the southern electorate.

What's left after that independents?
Or the left against corruption or whatever they are called?
With thier student union politics how could you give them the reins?

With all this Bailey stuff going on, plus she part of 'political dynasty' it makes me wonder will the country ever get its act together again?

It used to be where there was some sort of balance a reasonably strong Labour to counter FF or FG.
Now look at it, all over the shop.

NIMAN · 29-05-2019 9:37pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Then the Greens will get chewed up and spat out and they would have to rebuild again.
Or have times changed and the idealistic youth have finally taken over?

I have the feeling that if the Greens go into any coalition as a junior partner, they will get the blame for any tax hikes that are related to the environment, and they might suffer cos people care more about being taxed more than the environment.

Muahahaha · 29-05-2019 9:41pm

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

Who exactly, out of interest?

Maybe this lot?

gormdubhgorm · 29-05-2019 9:42pm

NIMAN wrote: »

I have the feeling that if the Greens go into any coalition as a junior partner, they will get the blame for any tax hikes that are related to the environment, and they might suffer cos people care more about being taxed more than the environment.

Exactly that always happens the junior partner gets minced out of it. And likes of that wagon Maria Bailey will end up sneaking her way by in after a 'brief hiatus', in maybe two GE's time when all is forgotten.
Then normal service will resume.

Allinall · 29-05-2019 9:45pm

expectationlost wrote: »

seriously are there no legal consequences for submitting an affidavit that turns out not to reflect what actually happened?

How do you know what actually happened?

Shefwedfan · 29-05-2019 9:46pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Exactly that always happens the junior partner gets minced out of it. And likes of that wagon Maria Bailey will end up sneaking her way by in after a 'brief hiatus', in maybe two GE's time when all is forgotten.
Then normal service will resume.

Well the Dún Laoghaire voter seem to be a very specific group of idiots.....constantly voting in her dodgy father and then voting her in as well....really someone should just take the votes off them and give them to someone with a bit of brain power

NIMAN · 29-05-2019 9:46pm

Allinall wrote: »

How do you know what actually happened?

Well she more or less said things were wrong in her submissions in the SOR interview.

whisky_galore · 29-05-2019 9:47pm

NIMAN wrote: »

I have the feeling that if the Greens go into any coalition as a junior partner, they will get the blame for any tax hikes that are related to the environment, and they might suffer cos people care more about being taxed more than the environment.

Idealistic youth grow up to be realistic adults.

Saving the planet is not all about Mary Fitzgerald make and do with plastic bottles.

Allinall · 29-05-2019 9:47pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Well she more or less said things were wrong in her submissions in the SOR interview.

You believe what she said?

golfball37 · 29-05-2019 9:48pm

SF in an attempt to regain relevance will no doubt be all over the Bailey story from now and will lead the charge demanding answers. It could put FF in a difficult spot. On this issue I don’t believe the public will accept the stock responses of Jean mcconville etc that will inevitably follow. It’s too serious

_blaaz · 29-05-2019 9:49pm

NIMAN wrote: »

I have the feeling that if the Greens go into any coalition as a junior partner, they will get the blame for any tax hikes that are related to the environment, and they might suffer cos people care more about being taxed more than the environment.

Surely once they achieve their aims its worth it??

Nothing worse than career politians who achieve fcuk all in decades in the dail

NIMAN · 29-05-2019 9:50pm

_blaaz wrote: »

Surely once they achieve their aims its worth it??

Nothing worse than career politians who achieve fcuk all in decades in the dail

Well the Greens the last time achieved their aim, to get nearly every new car in Ireland to be a diesel.

That was a success.

Wait til the folk buying heating oil or coal are told the carbon tax is going to double. See what they thing of the Greens after that.

gormdubhgorm · 29-05-2019 9:53pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Well the Dún Laoghaire voter seem to be a very specific group of idiots.....constantly voting in her dodgy father and then voting her in as well....really someone should just take the votes off them and give them to someone with a bit of brain power

It seems like a different world alright
Not to mention that 'Shane Peter Nathaniel Ross' who is near enough to the same area.
Would he get elected anywhere else?

McMurphy · 29-05-2019 9:55pm

Allinall wrote: »

How do you know what actually happened?

Because Maria told us on the radio, and it's not what she put in her affidavit.

salmocab · 29-05-2019 9:59pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It seems like a different world alright
Not to mention that 'Shane Peter Nathaniel Ross' who is near enough to the same area.
Would he get elected anywhere else?

Ah people country wide are the same, TDs are elected on local issues to run the country. We are then surprised when they aren’t capable. Ross got elected last time on back of the stepaside garda station. If a politician did his job well at government level and did nothing specific for his constituents he’d not get back in. We talk about the big stuff but really we care about the Garda station and the new by-pass. It’s shameful really.

Gen.Zhukov · 29-05-2019 9:59pm

I'll presume this David Kennedy SC guy doing the internal review has gotten plenty of high paying work from the Govt in the past and as he would probably like more of that work in the future, he will be very, very thorough and leave no stone unturned.

_blaaz · 29-05-2019 10:00pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Well the Greens the last time achieved their aim, to get nearly every new car in Ireland to be a diesel.

That was a success.

Wait til the folk buying heating oil or coal are told the carbon tax is going to double. See what they thing of the Greens after that.

I do hope they make polluter pay like....we're subsidising farmers (the boom in dairy has overwhelming caused our need to pay carbon tax) because of the main stream parties too close relationship to.farmers

Meh there should be a push to subsidise double glazing and insulation aswel to aid heating bills

Im guessing they will push to expand the national electric car fleet??

Ruraldweller56 · 29-05-2019 10:02pm

golfball37 wrote: »

SF in an attempt to regain relevance will no doubt be all over the Bailey story from now and will lead the charge demanding answers. It could put FF in a difficult spot. On this issue I don’t believe the public will accept the stock responses of Jean mcconville etc that will inevitably follow. It’s too serious

I don't think so. They've actually been quiet enough on it so far.

Allinall · 29-05-2019 10:02pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Because Maria told us on the radio, and it's not what she put in her affidavit.

Same question. Do you believe her?

Bullocks · 29-05-2019 10:04pm

_blaaz wrote: »

NIMAN wrote: »

Well the Greens the last time achieved their aim, to get nearly every new car in Ireland to be a diesel.

That was a success.

Wait til the folk buying heating oil or coal are told the carbon tax is going to double. See what they thing of the Greens after that.

I do hope they make polluter pay like....we're subsidising farmers (the boom in dairy has overwhelming caused our need to pay carbon tax) because of the main stream parties too close relationship to.farmers

Meh there should be a push to subsidise double glazing and insulation aswel to aid heating bills

Im guessing they will push to expand the national electric car fleet??

What parties are close to farmers. I think farmers are as badly screwed as anyone if not worse

_blaaz · 29-05-2019 10:05pm

Bullocks wrote: »

What parties are close to farmers. I think farmers are as badly screwed as anyone if not worse

Fg in particular would be regarded as big farmers party....while FF have a huuugge tradional rural voter base

McMurphy · 29-05-2019 10:06pm

Allinall wrote: »

Same question. Do you believe her?

It's not a case of believing her, it's a simple case of understanding that both versions can't be true.

She's a liar.

Snow Garden · 29-05-2019 10:09pm

_blaaz wrote: »

Fg in particular would be regarded as big farmers party....while FF have a huuugge tradional rural voter base

FF are the small farmers party alright. There are less small farmers around these days (compared to 60s/70s/80s) but they still have the small farmer vote.

I am not sure large farmers and dairy farmers would have as much love for the modern Fine Gael either.

29-05-2019 10:12pm

Allinall wrote: »

Same question. Do you believe her?

What do you believe?

upandcumming · 29-05-2019 10:18pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

That's just mindless garbage. He is a very capable guy. As good as Ireland (/India) can muster.

I don't know how Leo can get around at all with you kneeling in front of him the whole time.

Fotish · 29-05-2019 10:23pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Its laughable but a FF/Green coalition could be the most likely government after the next election. How things have come full circle.

They were wiped out the last time they went into government, same thing will happen again.

Does anybody who voted for them know what their policies are ? I doubt it.

One thing you can be sure of, any policy they implement will hit everyone in the pocket .

Allinall · 29-05-2019 10:27pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

It's not a case of believing her, it's a simple case of understanding that both versions can't be true.

She's a liar.

So which version do you believe?

Thargor · 29-05-2019 10:28pm

Fotish wrote: »

They were wiped out the last time they went into government, same thing will happen again.

Well the biggest recession in history might have had something to do with that...

McMurphy · 29-05-2019 10:32pm

Allinall wrote: »

So which version do you believe?

I don't have to believe either version, but only a simpleton wouldnt realise that two conflicting versions of events by the same person about the same incident means both can't be true. (Unless of course you've the key to a parallel universe)

I repeat, she's a liar.

Be right back · 29-05-2019 10:34pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

I don't have to believe either version, but you don't need to be a simpleton would realise that two conflicting versions of events by the same person about the same incident means both can't be true. (Unless of course you've the key to a parallel universe)

I repeat, she's a liar.

And it looks like she'll get away with it! I would love to see the CCTV footage!

29-05-2019 10:35pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

What do you believe?

Don't expect an answer.

McMurphy · 29-05-2019 10:37pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Don't expect an answer.

At least not until there's some official instructions from party HQ as to what version of events is the correct version of events.

Itssoeasy · 29-05-2019 10:37pm

Snow Garden wrote: »

FF are the small farmers party alright. There are less small farmers around these days (compared to 60s/70s/80s) but they still have the small farmer vote.

I am not sure large farmers and dairy farmers would have as much love for the modern Fine Gael either.

I think it would be more accurate to say that both parties would have been the traditional home for these voting blocks.

Nobelium · 29-05-2019 10:38pm

Be right back wrote: »

I would love to see the CCTV footage!

You can bet there's very large political bidding war going on for that footage at the minute. Whether you ever it see it or not depends on that bidding war outcome.

The Rape of Lucretia · 29-05-2019 10:39pm

Ten Pin wrote: »

FF & FG are both sides of a reversible jacket.

Exactly. And are a picture of the Irish voter. They are who Ireland wants to be governed by. 't has always been thus.
Any flaws people see in FG and FF, are the same flaws that also exist in themselves. Until people mature and stop having their voting decisions influence by this type of sideshow, they will continue flipflopping, blaming parties or blindly supporting parties, or following a rainbow, at the end of which they think they will find a Messiah Taoiseach who will be the answer to all their problems. The naivety is astounding.

McMurphy · 29-05-2019 10:43pm

Nobelium wrote: »

You can bet there's very large political bidding war going on for that footage at the minute. Whether you ever it see it or not depends on that bidding war outcome.

Or a leak on Twitter etc.

cj maxx · 29-05-2019 10:48pm

_blaaz wrote: »

I do hope they make polluter pay like....we're subsidising farmers (the boom in dairy has overwhelming caused our need to pay carbon tax) because of the main stream parties too close relationship to.farmers

Meh there should be a push to subsidise double glazing and insulation aswel to aid heating bills

Im guessing they will push to expand the national electric car fleet??

The same electric car fleet that 70% powered by burning cheap South American coal . Cop on .
It’s the same “optics” Leo uses. Bullsh1t. How about doing the thing right ! How about the greens actually do more than propose more taxes and builds wind or solar power facilities. Oh that costs money. Same bullsh1t from them

whisky_galore · 29-05-2019 10:53pm

_blaaz wrote: »

Im guessing they will push to expand the national electric car fleet??

It will suit their buddies at the SIMI after all.

Nobelium · 29-05-2019 10:54pm

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Or a leak on Twitter etc.

Whoever is sitting on it, it's worth a political fortune at the moment. They can literally name their political price.

ChikiChiki · 29-05-2019 10:55pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Its laughable but a FF/Green coalition could be the most likely government after the next election. How things have come full circle.

Irish people need to cop the **** on and for once give a government not consisting of a civil war party a go.

I think the social democrats whilst not perfect could be a breath of fresh air. More people need to get involved in the discussion around the future of Ireland and what we want our kids to grow up in. Thats you, I and everyone else.

JeffKenna · 29-05-2019 10:55pm

_blaaz wrote: »

NIMAN wrote: »

Well the Greens the last time achieved their aim, to get nearly every new car in Ireland to be a diesel.

That was a success.

Wait til the folk buying heating oil or coal are told the carbon tax is going to double. See what they thing of the Greens after that.

I do hope they make polluter pay like....we're subsidising farmers (the boom in dairy has overwhelming caused our need to pay carbon tax) because of the main stream parties too close relationship to.farmers

Meh there should be a push to subsidise double glazing and insulation aswel to aid heating bills

Im guessing they will push to expand the national electric car fleet??

Congestion charge for dublin should be the first step anyway.

Nobelium · 29-05-2019 10:56pm

_blaaz wrote: »

Meh there should be a push to subsidise double glazing and insulation aswel to aid heating bills

So some politically connected construction cronies can up the prices gouge us all ?

29-05-2019 10:57pm

Allinall wrote: »

So which version do you believe?

Why don’t you give the poor question mark on your keyboard a break and answer the question I asked you.

AngryHippie · 29-05-2019 10:57pm

JeffKenna wrote: »

Conjestion charge for dublin should be the first step anyway.

only if the money goes into a public transport system that works.

Nobelium · 29-05-2019 10:58pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Its laughable but a FF/Green coalition could be the most likely government after the next election. How things have come full circle.

Boy are the Irish people going to pay for their pathetically short political memory. We as a society have learned nothing. Some choice we have FF/FG/Green/Provos

NIMAN · 29-05-2019 11:00pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Exactly. And are a picture of the Irish voter. They are who Ireland wants to be governed by. 't has always been thus.
Any flaws people see in FG and FF, are the same flaws that also exist in themselves. Until people mature and stop having their voting decisions influence by this type of sideshow, they will continue flipflopping, blaming parties or blindly supporting parties, or following a rainbow, at the end of which they think they will find a Messiah Taoiseach who will be the answer to all their problems. The naivety is astounding.

My Da voted for X, and so did his Da, so I'll always vote for X.

:rolleyes:

thomasj · 29-05-2019 11:00pm

https://simondarcyonline.com/swing/

Addictive game

mikeymouse · 29-05-2019 11:05pm

thomasj wrote: »

https://simondarcyonline.com/swing/

Addictive game

You traitor ,Thomas,
you've been on the 'red'forum

Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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