2015 RBS Six Nations General Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

sydthebeat · 20-01-2015 3:24pm

England

Webbs wrote: »

I'd say the forwards average 27 which I wouldnt say is that old.

you're on the ball there!!!

i suppose i assumed they were aged as they seem to have been around a long long time.
But actually they just started very early.
AWJ for example is only 29, though he looks 37
Jake Ball is only 23 and looks 40!!

.ak · 20-01-2015 3:25pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

Has Kelly Brown retired from internationals?

Pretty sure he announced something to that effect, not 100% sure tho.

irishbucsfan · 20-01-2015 3:25pm

England

Fireball07 wrote: »

Has Kelly Brown retired from internationals?

He's been dropped supposedly, which is a really bizarre decision. It would make more sense to me if he had retired!

errlloyd · 20-01-2015 3:29pm

England

And Jonnie Beattie too, changing of the guard.

its_phil · 20-01-2015 3:39pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

He's been dropped supposedly, which is a really bizarre decision. It would make more sense to me if he had retired!

Didn't get picked for AI's either if IIRC?

its_phil · 20-01-2015 3:40pm

.ak wrote: »

Pretty sure he announced something to that effect, not 100% sure tho.

Don't think so. Pretty sure he said he wanted to play at RWC.

Fireball07 · 20-01-2015 4:16pm

England

Just read that Ross Rennie had to retire from rugby, aged 28, last week. I rated him pretty highly too, maybe not a top-class back row but he could cause havoc at the breakdown, maybe a bit like Jennings.

It's also a bit of a pity that Hines retired so early when he was still playing great stuff for Clermont. Even now, at Sale, he could offer a lot to Scotland imo.

Teferi · 20-01-2015 4:53pm

Fireball07 wrote: »

It's also a bit of a pity that Hines retired so early when he was still playing great stuff for Clermont. Even now, at Sale, he could offer a lot to Scotland imo.

It was rumoured the move to Sale was because it was closer to Edinburgh for Scotland squads. I thought he might have been coaxed out of retirement by Cotter.

OldRio · 20-01-2015 5:32pm

Ben Foden out for England. Not sure if he was in Lancasters plans but his form was good for Northampton.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/30903697

.ak · 21-01-2015 12:08pm

Sam Burgress included in the Saxon's squad to face the Irish wolfhounds... as a back.

Fireball07 · 21-01-2015 1:34pm

England

The England squads just for convenience in-thread:

England Senior Training Squad (34):

Forwards: D Attwood (Bath), C Clark (Northampton), D Cole (Leicester), A Corbisiero (Northampton), N Easter (Harlequins), D Hartley (Northampton), J Haskell (Wasps), G Kitchener (Leicester), G Kruis (Saracens), J Marler (Harlequins), G Parling (Leicester), C Robshaw (Harlequins, capt), B Vunipola, M Vunipola (both Saracens), D Wilson (Bath), T Wood (Northampton), T Youngs (Leicester).

Backs: B Barritt (Saracens), M Brown (Harlequins), L Burrell (Northampton), D Care (Harlequins), D Cipriani (Sale), K Eastmond (Bath), O Farrell (Saracens), G Ford (Bath), A Goode (Saracens), J Joseph (Bath), J May (Gloucester,), S Myler (Northampton), J Nowell (Exeter), B Twelvetrees (Gloucester), A Watson (Bath), R Wigglesworth (Saracens), B Youngs (Leicester).

England Saxons squad: (23)

Forwards: K Brookes (Newcastle), T Croft (Leicester), C Day (Northampton), L Cowan-Dickie, D Ewers (both Exeter), M Garvey (Bath), R Harrison (Sale), M Itoje (Saracens), M Kvesic (Gloucester), M Mullan (Wasps), H Thomas (Bath), T Waldrom (Exeter), A Waller (Northampton), R Webber (Bath).

Backs: C Ashton (Saracens), S Burgess (Bath), E Daly (Wasps), O Devoto (Bath), L Dickson (Northampton, capt), J Simpson (Wasps), H Slade (Exeter), M Yarde (Harlequins), C Wade (Wasps).

Fireball07 · 21-01-2015 1:40pm

England

Just looking at the Saxons squad, they've only picked 23 players, if that's the final squad, it's pretty strong. Going for a 6-2 split on the bench.

You've got the likes of Croft & Kvesic up front, and a backline which includes Ashton, Yarde, Wade, Daly... Dickson & Simpson as the scrum-halves. Plenty of experience, plenty of talent.

In the senior squad, obviously no Launchbury or Lawes there- Attwood, Kitchener, Kruis and Parling is still a solid setup, but not the same class.

Eastmond & Joseph both there, as well as the likes of Twelvetrees, Barritt and Burrell.

Myler in at OH, but so is Cipriani and Ford & Farrell. Wonder who'll get the start.

Cosmo Kramer · 21-01-2015 2:20pm

England

ssaye2 wrote: »

http://www.the42.ie/scotland-six-nations-ireland-vern-cotter-1892033-Jan2015/?utm_source=twitter_self

32-man Scotland squad for Six Nations:

Props: Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby), Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors), Jon Welsh (Glasgow Warriors) Geoff Cross (London Irish), Euan Murray (Glasgow Warriors)

Hookers: Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby), Fraser Brown (Glasgow Warriors)

Locks: Jonny Gray (Glasgow Warriors), Richie Gray (Castres), Jim Hamilton (Saracens), Ben Toolis (Edinburgh Rugby)

Back rows: Hugh Blake (Edinburgh Rugby), Blair Cowan (London Irish), David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby), Rob Harley (Glasgow Warriors), Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan), Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby)

Half-backs: Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby), Greig Laidlaw (Gloucester, captain), Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors), Finn Russell (Glasgow Warriors), Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby)

Centres: Mark Bennett (Glasgow Warriors), Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors), Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby)

Back threes: Dougie Fife (Edinburgh Rugby), Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors), Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors), Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors), Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors), Tim Visser (Edinburgh Rugby).

No real cover at 10 there if Russell gets injured. Someone called Hugh Blake picked in the back row ahead of all three 'killer bees'. He has more or less been plucked straight from Otago - he doesn't seem to have ever played Super Rugby or appeared for the Edinburgh first 15, potentially an even more obscure pick than Michael Bent was for Ireland a few years ago.

Fireball07 · 21-01-2015 2:29pm

England

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

No real cover at 10 there if Russell gets injured. Someone called Hugh Blake picked in the back row ahead of all three 'killer bees'. He has more or less been plucked straight from Otago - he doesn't seem to have ever played Super Rugby or appeared for the Edinburgh first 15, potentially an even more obscure pick than Michael Bent was for Ireland a few years ago.

Well, Tonks is there but I imagine Laidlaw will also cover 10.

That Blake one is a bit odd, it's not as if Scotland are short of back rows, so unless he's really good, it's a bit weird. At least Ireland were pretty short at prop at the time.

sydthebeat · 21-01-2015 2:34pm

England

4 outhalfs for the main england squad?

is farrell been seen as the most realistic 22 jersey ?

its_phil · 21-01-2015 2:50pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

4 outhalfs for the main england squad?

is farrell been seen as the most realistic 22 jersey ?

Telegraph saying Cipriani in as cover for two Bath centers

errlloyd · 24-01-2015 12:37am

England

I don't really get into the 6n mood until zero tolerance moderation comes into affect. Now I am beginning to get a bit giddy!

.ak · 24-01-2015 12:43am

errlloyd wrote: »

I don't really get into the 6n mood until zero tolerance moderation comes into affect. Now I am beginning to get a bit giddy!

Banned.

.... Just to get you in the mood!

Podge_irl · 24-01-2015 12:50am

I have idiotically timed a visit to London with the gf for 6N opening weekend. Will get away with the Ireland game but I fear that's it.

mfceiling · 24-01-2015 10:10am

Podge_irl wrote: »

I have idiotically timed a visit to London with the gf for 6N opening weekend. Will get away with the Ireland game but I fear that's it.

Be a shame that the pub you happened to stop into for a quick bite to eat was showing the 6N...

jacothelad · 24-01-2015 11:37am

errlloyd wrote: »

I don't really get into the 6n mood until zero tolerance moderation comes into affect. Now I am beginning to get a bit giddy!

Strange how your subconscious can lead you in odd directions. Scanning quickly down the various posts I read that as Zebo Tolerance moderation. It didn't seem wildly out of place.

Swiwi. · 24-01-2015 3:02pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

I have idiotically timed a visit to London with the gf for 6N opening weekend. Will get away with the Ireland game but I fear that's it.

The moment when your conscious is debating between the other couple of games you really want to see but you know the punishment is seeing no action off the pitch...

sydthebeat · 24-01-2015 11:29pm

England

Parling possibly out with an injury now.

England will be dredging the barrell at this rate for locks

Journeyman_1 · 25-01-2015 5:29pm

England

If Farrell is injured, it could be a massive blessing in disguise for England. Lancaster hasn't seem to want to drop him and he is not an international 12.

garbanzo · 25-01-2015 5:36pm

This clip from RTÉ from a couple of years ago sums up the OP. Brilliant. Love this time of year . . .

total former · 26-01-2015 9:41am

England

Johnnie Beattie called up after injury to Denton and Strokosch.

Sanjuro · 26-01-2015 9:52am

England

garbanzo wrote: »

This clip from RTÉ from a couple of years ago sums up the OP. Brilliant. Love this time of year . . .

For all the bitching that's done about RTE, they do do great Six Nations promos.

From last year.

But not this one.

The Caveman · 26-01-2015 12:37pm

France

HI all

Quick question, is the games on Sky, or RTE/BBC, as I can not remember from last year?

Sanjuro · 26-01-2015 12:39pm

England

The Caveman wrote: »

HI all

Quick question, is the games on Sky, or RTE/BBC, as I can not remember from last year?

Both RTE and the BBC are broadcasting the Six Nations.

awec · 26-01-2015 12:40pm

Podge_irl wrote: »

I have idiotically timed a visit to London with the gf for 6N opening weekend. Will get away with the Ireland game but I fear that's it.

Worse than that i will be on a plane somewhere over the Atlantic heading to Toronto when Ireland are lining out in Wales to secure the Grand Slam.

Can you get RTE on planes?

MJohnston · 26-01-2015 12:45pm

England

The Caveman wrote: »

HI all

Quick question, is the games on Sky, or RTE/BBC, as I can not remember from last year?

Thankfully BBC/RTE still have it: http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/six-nations/2012/1011/341212-rte-retain-six-nations-rights-until-2017/

its_phil · 26-01-2015 12:45pm

awec wrote: »

Worse than that i will be on a plane somewhere over the Atlantic heading to Toronto when Ireland are lining out in Wales to secure the Grand Slam.

Can you get RTE on planes?

They do wi-fi on some planes but you might not be able to stream. Never know!!

The Caveman · 26-01-2015 12:46pm

France

I am not sure if you know, but, the Wife just asked me to book a restaurant for Saturday 14th for the Ireland France Game ( also known as Valentines)

now i need to find a nice restaurant that will show the game - Restaurant and not a Pub...

.ak · 26-01-2015 12:48pm

The Caveman wrote: »

I am not sure if you know, but, the Wife just asked me to book a restaurant for Saturday 14th for the Ireland France Game ( also known as Valentines)

now i need to find a nice restaurant that will show the game - Restaurant and not a Pub...

Where abouts?

Podge_irl · 26-01-2015 12:50pm

awec wrote: »

Worse than that i will be on a plane somewhere over the Atlantic heading to Toronto when Ireland are lining out in Wales to secure the Grand Slam.

They'll have a hard time securing the grand slam if they line out in Wales instead of Scotland...

MJohnston · 26-01-2015 12:50pm

England

its_phil wrote: »

They do wi-fi on some planes but you might not be able to stream. Never know!!

You're usually lucky enough to be able to pull up Google.com, never mind RTE Player! Ye might be able to scrape through with some radio coverage maybe. Virgin America have live TV onboard their flights, don't know why other airlines haven't tried that out yet.

its_phil · 26-01-2015 12:52pm

MJohnston wrote: »

You're usually lucky enough to be able to pull up Google.com, never mind RTE Player! Ye might be able to scrape through with some radio coverage maybe. Virgin America have live TV onboard their flights, don't know why other airlines haven't tried that out yet.

My dad streamed NFL Gamepass on Aer Lingus flight and said the signal quit on him a few times but was still a decent standard. But I'm sure it can be awful too.

awec · 26-01-2015 12:53pm

I might just buy the wifi and see what happens.

MJohnston · 26-01-2015 12:54pm

England

its_phil wrote: »

My dad streamed NFL Gamepass on Aer Lingus flight and said the signal quit on him a few times but was still a decent standard. But I'm sure it can be awful too.

On average I've found it to be generally awful, but maybe that's because your dad is up front streaming TV coverage and hogging all the bandwidth

MJohnston · 26-01-2015 12:56pm

England

awec wrote: »

I might just buy the wifi and see what happens.

The other thing is that Aer Lingus wifi is provided by some German company, so you always get served up German versions of pages etc. Would mean that RTE streaming would probably be blocked off. Other airlines are much the same I'm sure.

.ak · 26-01-2015 12:57pm

Also the wifi on planes tends to be absolutely rubbish.

MJohnston · 26-01-2015 1:03pm

England

Well I did mention that one already :P

The Caveman · 26-01-2015 1:07pm

France

.ak wrote: »

Where abouts?

Dublin, but, i think i will just set my mind that i will miss the Ireland France game live, game, and I will have a peaceful Super 15 ( go Sharks) and 6 Nations

Will watch it later that night/ next day

I can live with that...

a happy wife is a happy life...

.ak · 26-01-2015 1:10pm

The Caveman wrote: »

Dublin, but, i think i will just set my mind that i will miss the Ireland France game live, game, and I will have a peaceful Super 15 ( go Sharks) and 6 Nations

Will watch it later that night/ next day

I can live with that...

a happy wife is a happy life...

That's defeatist talk and I won't have it on this forum.

What you need to do is bring her 37 Dawson St. The food there is pretty good actually and whilst the crowd can be a bit questionable if you book a table up on the mez it can be a pretty intimate little spot and quite quirky. She'll thank you for it later if you treat her to desert which is generally awesome there, plus if you get a mez seat you'll have a view of the flat screen tv in the bar below and there should be a bit of a (stereotypically D4) rugby crowd there so you joining in the cheering and swearing shouldn't be too off putting.

You can thank me later.

The Caveman · 26-01-2015 1:17pm

France

I know the place well, been there many times...

will see if they do bookings...

molloyjh · 26-01-2015 2:37pm

.ak wrote: »

That's defeatist talk and I won't have it on this forum.

What you need to do is bring her 37 Dawson St. The food there is pretty good actually and whilst the crowd can be a bit questionable if you book a table up on the mez it can be a pretty intimate little spot and quite quirky. She'll thank you for it later if you treat her to desert which is generally awesome there, plus if you get a mez seat you'll have a view of the flat screen tv in the bar below and there should be a bit of a (stereotypically D4) rugby crowd there so you joining in the cheering and swearing shouldn't be too off putting.

You can thank me later.

I was in there once. This gif pretty much sums it up...

.ak · 26-01-2015 2:39pm

molloyjh wrote: »

I was in there once. This gif pretty much sums it up...

Yeah, can be a bit of a pretentious crowd if I'm being honest, but I never let that put me off a good feed or drink.

awec · 26-01-2015 2:40pm

37 Dawson Street is great!

total former · 26-01-2015 3:10pm

England

.ak wrote: »

can be a bit of a pretentious crowd

awec wrote: »

37 Dawson Street is great!

Well this is awkward.

awec · 26-01-2015 3:11pm

I'm not pretentious, I'm just a level above the likes of .ak and molloy.

2015 RBS Six Nations General Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread

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