Kia Niro EV

darrenheaphy · 24-08-2020 4:13pm

JohnC. wrote: »

Plugshare show them. I think Zap Map too, but maybe Plugshare is better?

I had to add our local EasyGo charger to ZapMap so not sure if it'll show them all by default. I have the EasyGo app on my phone too, just in case.

chewed · 24-08-2020 5:04pm

darrenheaphy wrote: »

I had to add our local EasyGo charger to ZapMap so not sure if it'll show them all by default. I have the EasyGo app on my phone too, just in case.

These are all the apps I have for my Niro

championc · 24-08-2020 6:18pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is there any single app that's accurate that has all chargers for Ireland ?

EasyGo shows all of their chargers (albeit some installed in inaccessible customer premises) and all ESB chargers. I am assuming that Plugshare also include chargepoints installed by the likes of Hotels and Guesthouses - but possibly some private residences too

Black_Knight · 24-08-2020 6:40pm

championc wrote: »

EasyGo shows all of their chargers (albeit some installed in inaccessible customer premises) and all ESB chargers. I am assuming that Plugshare also include chargepoints installed by the likes of Hotels and Guesthouses - but possibly some private residences too

It can show private residencies too, but simply filtered out.
Very handy for showing hotels and bnbs with charge points. As well as saving you from checking multiple apps, and even those not in apps (apple green charge points)

social butterfly 2020 · 25-08-2020 2:58pm

This was Kias response in relation to my JBL query

There was an error on our website regarding JBL speakers, this has since been rectified and the website now accurately reflects the spec sheet and the brochure that is available online to download and in each of our dealers, please also see attached.

We would like to apologise for our mistake and any inconvenience this has caused.

chewed · 25-08-2020 3:34pm

social butterfly 2020 wrote: »

This was Kias response in relation to my JBL query

There was an error on our website regarding JBL speakers, this has since been rectified and the website now accurately reflects the spec sheet and the brochure that is available online to download and in each of our dealers, please also see attached.

We would like to apologise for our mistake and any inconvenience this has caused.

I just got the same email! They attached the proper spec sheet and nothing mentioned about the speakers. For the price I paid for the car, it's very disappointing they couldn't put a decent sound system in it.

social butterfly 2020 · 25-08-2020 3:52pm

chewed wrote: »

I just got the same email! They attached the proper spec sheet and nothing mentioned about the speakers. For the price I paid for the car, it's very disappointing they couldn't put a decent sound system in it.

Push back on them, this was my reply as its false advertising:

This is very disappointing.

I paid for a car that was advertised having a JBL system and turns out this was false advertising.

What can kia do to rectify this?

chewed · 25-08-2020 4:28pm

social butterfly 2020 wrote: »

Push back on them, this was my reply as its false advertising:

This is very disappointing.

I paid for a car that was advertised having a JBL system and turns out this was false advertising.

What can kia do to rectify this?

Done, used different verbiage of course! Keep me posted and I'll do the same.

Redlim · 25-08-2020 5:00pm

chewed wrote: »

Done, used different verbiage of course! Keep me posted and I'll do the same.

Same!

25-08-2020 5:34pm

I'm sure there is some kind of comeback on that alright, but better have proof. Screen shots etc.

Redlim · 25-08-2020 5:55pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm sure there is some kind of comeback on that alright, but better have proof. Screen shots etc.

Here are the before and after screen shots. Plus they've acknowledged the error from the website.

social butterfly 2020 · 25-08-2020 6:54pm

Most recent reply:

Thank you for your reply.

We accept that the website was incorrect, this has now been corrected, but the vehicle was supplied in accordance with the spec sheet and the brochure and if there was any concern at the time of purchase both of these documents were available from the dealer at the point of sale.

If you have further queries we recommend to discuss with your selling dealer.

KCross · 25-08-2020 6:59pm

social butterfly 2020 wrote: »

Most recent reply:

Thank you for your reply.

We accept that the website was incorrect, this has now been corrected, but the vehicle was supplied in accordance with the spec sheet and the brochure and if there was any concern at the time of purchase both of these documents were available from the dealer at the point of sale.

If you have further queries we recommend to discuss with your selling dealer.

Are they saying the brochure was correct and only the website was wrong?

Anyone have the brochure to confirm if that’s true?

graememk · 25-08-2020 7:33pm

KCross wrote: »

Are they saying the brochure was correct and only the website was wrong?

Anyone have the brochure to confirm if that’s true?

Brochure didnt exist when i ordered lol theres one on the website now,

No mention of it in the brochure, and the brochure shows the dash from the "concept" car

social butterfly 2020 · 25-08-2020 8:08pm

I also had no brochure as none were available at the time

Redlim · 25-08-2020 8:50pm

KCross wrote: »

Are they saying the brochure was correct and only the website was wrong?

Anyone have the brochure to confirm if that’s true?

Just looking at the current brochure now and it actually still has an image of a JBL branded speaker

JohnC. · 25-08-2020 8:58pm

Redlim wrote: »

Just looking at the current brochure now and it actually still has an image of a JBL branded speaker

It also shows left hand drive, different (LED?) headlights and tail lights, seat memory buttons, seat ventilation and maybe other stuff.

Most importantly, it also says "However some of the models and features shown in this brochure may vary from the models and equipment available here in Ireland"

championc · 25-08-2020 9:15pm

Spare a thought for us 2019 orderers who were March recipients, who had absolutely no idea as to what to expect until the morning of collection, when the only guidance regarding the potential spec was from discussions of the UK model on forums, and some assumptions that the Irish model might have X, Y and X included.

I still smile every time I drive this awesome machine

Redlim · 25-08-2020 9:42pm

JohnC. wrote: »

It also shows left hand drive, different (LED?) headlights and tail lights, seat memory buttons, seat ventilation and maybe other stuff.

Most importantly, it also says "However some of the models and features shown in this brochure may vary from the models and equipment available here in Ireland"

Ah the fine print, well spotted. But surely a case can be made for misleading/false advertising given the combination of the brochure images and the website itself clearly stating it was included (until they took it down)?

A buyer could reasonably expect the features described as being included on the website are indeed included, especially considering there is only a single spec available and therefore less chance for confusion.

Redlim · 25-08-2020 9:49pm

championc wrote: »

Spare a thought for us 2019 orderers who were March recipients, who had absolutely no idea as to what to expect until the morning of collection, when the only guidance regarding the potential spec was from discussions of the UK model on forums, and some assumptions that the Irish model might have X, Y and X included.

I still smile every time I drive this awesome machine

Very true, that was a real leap of faith that has certainly paid off. Similar to the ID.3 which I'm sure will be a great buy for those picking them up in a few weeks.

social butterfly 2020 · 25-08-2020 9:59pm

Redlim wrote: »

Ah the fine print, well spotted. But surely a case can be made for misleading/false advertising given the combination of the brochure images and the website itself clearly stating it was included (until they took it down)?

A buyer could reasonably expect the features described as being included on the website are indeed included, especially considering there is only a single spec available and therefore less chance for confusion.

Agreed. Next steps??.

Redlim · 25-08-2020 10:28pm

social butterfly 2020 wrote: »

Agreed. Next steps??.

No idea tbh. Never bought new or from a main dealer before so I don't know if they ever entertain rectifying something like this, even as a goodwill gesture.

championc · 26-08-2020 8:47am

Redlim wrote: »

No idea tbh. Never bought new or from a main dealer before so I don't know if they ever entertain rectifying something like this, even as a goodwill gesture.

I could be wrong but to the best of my knowledge, the difference is not just simply the speaker cones. There may even be an extra pair and the additional control in the head unit.

Alun · 26-08-2020 9:35am

championc wrote: »

I could be wrong but to the best of my knowledge, the difference is not just simply the speaker cones. There may even be an extra pair and the additional control in the head unit.

This^^^ It's a complete system with 8 speakers including a subwoofer in the boot and a separate 8 channel amp mounted under the dashboard. No way they're going to retrofit that amount of kit for you.

https://uk.jbl.com/kia.html

graememk · 26-08-2020 12:56pm

Redlim wrote: »

Just looking at the current brochure now and it actually still has an image of a JBL branded speaker

Thats the PHEV section of the brochure, PHEV comes with the cream seats etc too.

also that green/blue colour was never available in ireland. It was available in the UK in the non plug in hybrid version only i think.

Redlim · 26-08-2020 2:20pm

graememk wrote: »

Thats the PHEV section of the brochure, PHEV comes with the cream seats etc too.

also that green/blue colour was never available in ireland. It was available in the UK in the non plug in hybrid version only i think.

That's true but another image further down the brochure in the e-Niro section also shows a speaker with branding (albeit after a bit of zooming in!).

Looking at the PHEV specs sheet it seems it's not included in that model either so the brochure is again misleading for those buyers.

I totally get the point that the spec sheet is the proper source of information and that stock pictures in a brochure should not be relied upon, as pointed out by Kia in the small print. But when the website had a specific multimedia section describing the premium sound system it's reasonable to believe it would be included when making a purchase.

In the grand scheme of things it's more an annoyance than a major issue really but disappointing all the same considering the cost of the car.

Krusty_Clown · 26-08-2020 6:21pm

Haven't seen my car in a week <sniff> since it was towed away by the man in the yellow van. The problems started about 10 days ago, where there was no life from the 12V battery two days in a row. Quickly rectified by a call to Kia Assist (the AA) who promptly turned up and jump-started it back to life (twice), but it has since been lead away. Kia Assist were really good about the whole thing and we've had a replacement car since. Problem has been traced to issues with the 'radio' (I'm thinking infotainment system) draining power from the 12V battery. I'd have thought that the EV battery would keep it topped up, but not in this case. Did get a few 'caution' signs from the battery icon in the UVO app, but otherwise no indications that anything was wrong. Experience with the Kia dealerships has been quite.... varied... Let's just say that the principle that you buy your car in one Kia garage and can get it services in another, doesn't hold up to a lot of scrutiny.

Kramer · 26-08-2020 6:35pm

Redlim wrote: »

In the grand scheme of things it's more an annoyance than a major issue really but disappointing all the same considering the cost of the car.

Tesla routinely remove features to cut costs but I'd be very irked if I was expecting a premium sound system & didn't get it, just so the manufacturer can save money/make more profit.

I'd be going after Kia with a vengeance if I were you guys!

darrenheaphy · 26-08-2020 9:22pm

Kramer wrote: »

Tesla routinely remove features to cut costs but I'd be very irked if I was expecting a premium sound system & didn't get it, just so the manufacturer can save money/make more profit.

I'd be going after Kia with a vengeance if I were you guys!

I’m waiting for ChampionC to go through the process of swapping his out so he can tell us if it’s worth it ðŸ˜€

It does suck though, I was surprised at how tinny they were initially (calibrating helped)

Silent Running · 27-08-2020 9:30am

UK spec for the 4+ is available. I wonder how much will be stripped out before it gets to a dealership here, if it makes it at all.

https://www.kia.com/uk/new-cars/e-niro/specification/

championc · 27-08-2020 10:00am

The "2, 3 & 4+" are packaged up builds by the UK, in much the same as most other European countries offered three "models" of the e-Niro. It's quite likely that the lazy Irish will stick with the simple single build. There is nothing new in the 4+ - it's just bundled options at a fixed price - all options of which have been available from the beginning in other countries.

Silent Running · 27-08-2020 10:37am

championc wrote: »

The "2, 3 & 4+" are packaged up builds by the UK, in much the same as most other European countries offered three "models" of the e-Niro. It's quite likely that the lazy Irish will stick with the simple single build. There is nothing new in the 4+ - it's just bundled options at a fixed price - all options of which have been available from the beginning in other countries.

I think in this case that's not necessarily true. In the UK people are swapping their orders from 4 to 4+ as the + will be available soon, but the 4 is already available. The 4 is what Irish buyers got this year, with UVO and the 10.25" screen.

New colours are also available on the 4+ that haven't been available before; Yacht Blue for example.

27-08-2020 10:39am

4+ is that a new 1 ?

I presume they'll remove led headlghts, leather ( if it's actually real leather ) and ventilated seats for the Paddy spec.

Pity they don't speed up charging on DC.

JohnC. · 27-08-2020 10:40am

I'm sure there were differences between UK 4 and the Irish model, but it's gone from their site now so I can't compare.

Silent Running · 27-08-2020 10:58am

JohnC. wrote: »

I'm sure there were differences between UK 4 and the Irish model, but it's gone from their site now so I can't compare.

Yeah, there were. And I'm sure some stuff will be stripped off before (if) the 4+ comes here. The UK 4+ spec is good though.

xboxdad · 27-08-2020 11:03am

Silent Running wrote: »

I think in this case that's not necessarily true. In the UK people are swapping their orders from 4 to 4+ as the + will be available soon, but the 4 is already available. The 4 is what Irish buyers got this year, with UVO and the 10.25" screen.

New colours are also available on the 4+ that haven't been available before; Yacht Blue for example.

Most ppl I saw changing their orders from 4 to 4+ want the faster 11kW AC charging that UK 4s didn't get (and we did). Quite a few want the new Yacht Blue color too it appears. I don't think I saw anybody say they liked the sun roof though which is the only thing I'd be interested in personally

...old style, fine, but at least a sun roof.

27-08-2020 11:59am

Anyone know if the body panels in the E-Niro are metal or Aluminium ?

Alun · 27-08-2020 12:52pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anyone know if the body panels in the E-Niro are metal or Aluminium ?

It's steel apart from the bonnet and tailgate which are aluminium.

KCross · 27-08-2020 1:23pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone know if the body panels in the E-Niro are metal or Aluminium ?

You're asking this question on every EV thread.... are you really going to decide your next car based on whether you can get your aerial magnet to work?!

27-08-2020 1:26pm

KCross wrote: »

You're asking this question on every EV thread.... are you really going to decide your next car based on whether you can get your aerial magnet to work?!

Damn, you got me, lol. Still haven't found a proper solution for the i3.

chewed · 27-08-2020 1:37pm

I know I've asked before, but has anyone managed to install a dash cam in their eNiro? Just wondering what make, size and location would be best.

Silent Running · 27-08-2020 1:38pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Damn, you got me, lol. Still haven't found a proper solution for the i3.

Would a suction base not cover most, if not all, cars?

27-08-2020 1:41pm

Silent Running wrote: »

Would a suction base not cover most, if not all, cars?

I'm looking into it just can't seem to find anything except this but can't find a review and I'd have to get it from the states.

Sorry for thread hijacking.

graememk · 27-08-2020 1:47pm

chewed wrote: »

I know I've asked before, but has anyone managed to install a dash cam in their eNiro? Just wondering what make, size and location would be best.

Dealer moved the Phillips one from our Sportage to the Niro, we have it just to the left of the mirror.

It's wired into one of the fuses, it turns on as soon as you come close to the car, (when the wing mirrors fold out).

tk123 · 27-08-2020 2:14pm

chewed wrote: »

I know I've asked before, but has anyone managed to install a dash cam in their eNiro? Just wondering what make, size and location would be best.

I moved my blackvue 430 over from hybrid -> e-niro. I had issues in the hybrid with the camera randomly rebooting when I had it wired in.. I ended up getting their battery pack to cover parking mode if I'm parked some where etc. I have the front camera on the left hand side of the mirror housing.

Stefs_42 · 27-08-2020 6:09pm

Krusty_Clown wrote: »

Haven't seen my car in a week <sniff> since it was towed away by the man in the yellow van. The problems started about 10 days ago, where there was no life from the 12V battery two days in a row. Quickly rectified by a call to Kia Assist (the AA) who promptly turned up and jump-started it back to life (twice), but it has since been lead away. Kia Assist were really good about the whole thing and we've had a replacement car since. Problem has been traced to issues with the 'radio' (I'm thinking infotainment system) draining power from the 12V battery. I'd have thought that the EV battery would keep it topped up, but not in this case. Did get a few 'caution' signs from the battery icon in the UVO app, but otherwise no indications that anything was wrong. Experience with the Kia dealerships has been quite.... varied... Let's just say that the principle that you buy your car in one Kia garage and can get it services in another, doesn't hold up to a lot of scrutiny.

Have you tried running "utility mode"? apparently it charges up your 12V battery. and I have been advised to do so once a month anyway to avoid dissapointments down the road.

chewed · 27-08-2020 7:00pm

Stefs_42 wrote:

Have you tried running "utility mode"? apparently it charges up your 12V battery. and I have been advised to do so once a month anyway to avoid dissapointments down the road.

What's utility mode?

Krusty_Clown · 28-08-2020 12:28am

Stefs_42 wrote: »

Have you tried running "utility mode"? apparently it charges up your 12V battery. and I have been advised to do so once a month anyway to avoid dissapointments down the road.

Utility mode seems to allow you to use things like air conditioning, entertainment system, draw current from charging points etc., from the EV battery (rather than the 12V battery) even when the car isn't powered on. Handy for things like picnics, or long stops, where you want to power something, and don't want to wear down the 12V battery. In our case, the car was shut-down, nothing operational. The only thing that was different from our usual usage patterns was that I'd sent a UVO instruction to the car the night before to max out the AC charging at 80%. My guess is that there's a software bug on the car firmware side, that keeps the mobile communication channels open after receiving an instruction, in specific conditions. Entirely speculative - could of course just been a dud 12V battery, or as suggested by the garage, some kind of current draw from the radio.

darrenheaphy · 29-08-2020 12:39pm

Urgh, I’ve got long light scratches on the paint from a ditch. Any way to remove them?

chewed · 29-08-2020 12:52pm

darrenheaphy wrote: »

Urgh, I’ve got long light scratches on the paint from a ditch. Any way to remove them?

I noticed a few minor scratches on my car and only had it a month. No idea how they got there as I've been quite careful (new car anxiety!!!). I find the paint on the eNiro very susceptible to scratches.

What colour is your car? Halfords have scratch removal kits in various colours.

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