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Mental health and CoVid-19

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  • #102
    Unreg0909
    Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭Unreg0909


    I have always suffered from anxiety but at the moment my mental health is horrific, I feel paralysed with fear. Myself my husband and our child all have asthma and the thoughts of any or all of us getting this virus terrifies me. I know a lot of people are in the same boat. I’ve been having fully blown panic attacks most nights which doesn’t help. I wake up in then mornings and for a few minutes forget about all of this, then it comes back to me and the fear sets in again. Wish I knew what to do to help myself.


  • #103
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    jonnny68 wrote: »
    not good avoid it alt all possible, take CBD oil its fantastic for sleep but get the proper stuff and not the rubbish they sell in retail shops here.

    Where can I get the proper stuff?


  • #104
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,191 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Losing my autonomy, lack of options and the totalitarian uncertainty is very hard to take. I ****ing hate not knowing when this will end or even when it will get worse I feel like a goldfish staring out of a bowl blinking the monotony away.


  • #105
    Foweva Awone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    Some useful ideas here


  • #106
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,800 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Just thought I’d share the breakdown of my average day, that keeps me busy, well, busy as allowed to be...

    9.30am - up and shower and dressed.

    10.30 - breakfast / cleanup

    11.30 - email / surf the web / news catchup

    12.15 - exercise : walk / bike / weights / floor exercises

    13.30 - make lunch / eat lunch / cleanup

    15.00 - Relax / tv / internet / reading / online

    15.30 - quick walk

    16.30 - home relaxing : tv - internet - reading - ps4

    17.30 - make dinner / eat dinner

    19.00 - exercise : bike / weights / floor exercises / walk again if I’m arsed

    20.00 - chill times - tv - internet - reading ps4

    00.00 - bed


  • #107
    DisneyLover
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭DisneyLover


    I was a patient for almost 4 months last summer in St Pats hospital for anxiety/depression and now just in twice a month as an outpatient for my eating disorder.

    They sent me a huge letter outlining all the help they can provide me with and that my MDT are all available for me at any time. My appointments with CBT therapist and consultant will be done by video.

    They are such an amazing hospital. I would recommend to all of ye and to anyone who needs them :)


  • #108
    Minnie Snuggles
    Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Minnie Snuggles


    I really feel like I have lost it. My 85 year old father, who lives on his own - in a different county, has started showing symptoms. My sister was told it would be 10 days before he could be tested. Tested or not makes no difference to me, as far as I am concerned we have to assume he has the virus. My main concerns are that:

    1. those who bring him essentials are aware that he has symptoms - he has no internet nor credit card or debit card, anyone who brings him things he will insist on paying by cash.
    2, how can we monitor his breathing from a distance.

    I have had a major row with my sister, who does not want anyone to know that he is ill (to me in this climate is beyond ridiculous), but she is the one my fathers doctor is talking to, I am disgusted that he has not told her to contact my fathers contacts.

    I spoke to one of my fathers neighbours and found out how many people he has been in contact with. He is a stubborn mule at the best of times and will lie through his teeth. It is only by digging that we can protect the ones who have been kind to him, now is not a time for egos.

    I am at breaking point.


  • #109
    Foweva Awone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    DisneyLover wrote: »
    I was a patient for almost 4 months last summer in St Pats hospital for anxiety/depression and now just in twice a month as an outpatient for my eating disorder.

    They sent me a huge letter outlining all the help they can provide me with and that my MDT are all available for me at any time. My appointments with CBT therapist and consultant will be done by video.

    They are such an amazing hospital. I would recommend to all of ye and to anyone who needs them :)

    I've had several admissions there myself and couldn't recommend them highly enough.

    I had a video appointment with my psychiatrist there yesterday. It was a bit strange but good to link in.


  • #110
    1800_Ladladlad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    DisneyLover wrote: »
    I was a patient for almost 4 months last summer in St Pats hospital for anxiety/depression and now just in twice a month as an outpatient for my eating disorder.

    They sent me a huge letter outlining all the help they can provide me with and that my MDT are all available for me at any time. My appointments with CBT therapist and consultant will be done by video.

    They are such an amazing hospital. I would recommend to all of ye and to anyone who needs them :)

    How much was your stay ?


  • #111
    never_mind
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    Hi everyone,

    Don’t think I’ve seen a thread like this yet.

    Just got off the phone to my Father who lives alone in rural ireland. He usually sees his friends during the day and has been relatively happy until this happened. He’s 61 and a widower and is lost without his circle of friends. He was crying today. I haven’t seen him cry in years. I’m beginning to see the toll these restrictions are having on me and more importantly on him.

    I call him twice a day and have tried my best to figure out ways to get him through this. How is everyone else coping mentally? Anyone else have a parent in a similar situation? How are you managing it?

    I don’t want this thread to turn into a debate about restrictions but about useful advice to support older people and the vulnerable who are now even more isolated due to this.


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  • #112
    Sober Crappy Chemis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 461 ✭✭Sober Crappy Chemis


    Hi, there is a sticky here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062109


  • #113
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,814 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I'd also be concerned about people. I can actually see people snapping and people saying get over yourself all you've to do is stay inside aren't really helping the situation.
    All I can say to you is ring him and get others to stay in contact with him and sort of stay positive.
    Also is he into the web; etc. If not you could try and organise some DVD's, etc for him.


  • #114
    never_mind
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭never_mind


    Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »
    Hi, there is a sticky here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062109

    Sorry. Mods you can merge this if you’d like!


  • #115
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    I'd also be concerned about people. I can actually see people snapping and people saying get over yourself all you've to do is stay inside aren't really helping the situation.
    All I can say to you is ring him and get others to stay in contact with him and sort of stay positive.
    Also is he into the web; etc. If not you could try and organise some DVD's, etc for him.

    That’s exactly what is happening, I tried to talk to a friend how I was struggling and was told to cop myself on and stop being a wuss. That’s why I hate all those ads around mental health, talk to someone, anytime I’ve ever tried to talk to someone, nobody wants to know.


  • #116
    Bowlardo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Bowlardo


    fin12 wrote: »
    What’s people experience with sleeping tablets? I’ve always had issues sleeping but it’s gotten very bad now.
    I’d advise that but what I find great is magnesium.
    Put it in a glass about 1/2 hours before bed and you you should have a great sleep.
    Also you should be exercising daily/fresh air


  • #117
    fin12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Bowlardo wrote: »
    I’d advise that but what I find great is magnesium.
    Put it in a glass about 1/2 hours before bed and you you should have a great sleep.
    Also you should be exercising daily/fresh air

    Thanks, I’ve been told about magnesium, I’ll try to get it next time I get to Boots.


  • #118
    speckle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    never_mind wrote: »
    Hi everyone,

    Don’t think I’ve seen a thread like this yet.

    Just got off the phone to my Father who lives alone in rural ireland. He usually sees his friends during the day and has been relatively happy until this happened. He’s 61 and a widower and is lost without his circle of friends. He was crying today. I haven’t seen him cry in years. I’m beginning to see the toll these restrictions are having on me and more importantly on him.

    I call him twice a day and have tried my best to figure out ways to get him through this. How is everyone else coping mentally? Anyone else have a parent in a similar situation? How are you managing it?

    I don’t want this thread to turn into a debate about restrictions but about useful advice to support older people and the vulnerable who are now even more isolated due to this.

    what county does he live in. our county council has got together with local agencies and volunteers from order of malta alone Vdp etc. to keep health and safety standards upfor delievers etc.
    they have a freephone number.
    You might be able to ring for advice or set up one of their volunteers to talk to him from the other side of a window or the gate. maybe organise the postman or neighbours who are out on a trip to the shop or 2km excerciseto beep as they go by or talk out of their car windows to him at a distance.
    alone the charity has set up a helpline for seniors
    Are his friends self isolating also due to health or age? maybe one or two arent? and as they are passing by can stop at a wall or gate and talk through a window or he can stay at the door.
    maybe he is missing the local pub or mart? Does he have farm worries? Ask the local Ifa/gaa/neighbours for help there. rember to sanitise gates if using them. maybe he is worried re finances, no mass, his will, his funeral, his mortality.
    maybe he is worried about you.
    reinforce that stayin in is very important but not forever. that even older and vunerable people are surviving eg. a man of c102 and woman of 106 in Italy. there was a man in his 80s in ireland on tv too. these as sad as the numbers of deaths are, are not isolated cases.
    we had all the tough conversations a little bit at a time with our older relatives so not to over whelm them. then asked them what they were finding most difficult and organised, all be it not a perfect plan b with them. some asked to be rung everyday some just once or twice a week as usual. some skpye some dont. some have just learnt too. some have started rosary chain phonecall trees. maybe the local priest can phone him.
    they find cleaning of messages hardest and the lack of a relaxed face to face interaction and not going for a short walk.
    trying to keep a routine has helped.
    some are reading free books online some we post to then they quareenteen books letters for two days then read. Some older folk cant read at all.
    If you are very worried re his mental health ring his Gp for advise.
    then ourselves... we need to keep our own energy topped up. ie take care of the carers.
    realise that all emotions are accepatble for this great change but temporary situation in our lifetime.
    listening to our parents cry maybe for the first time ever can be one of the hardest things to do.
    we have come through that here and now we joke about ' the virus thingy'.
    my heart goes out to you in theses times. big hug
    apologies re grammer spelling on a very small screen here.


  • #119
    Worztron
    Registered Users Posts: 8,739 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Foweva Awone wrote: »
    Some useful ideas here

    Hi FA. What does DBT stand for?

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • #120
    Foweva Awone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    Worztron wrote: »
    Hi FA. What does DBT stand for?

    Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. It's worth having a Google, I've found it very practical and helpful.


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  • #121
    Worztron
    Registered Users Posts: 8,739 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Foweva Awone wrote: »
    Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. It's worth having a Google, I've found it very practical and helpful.

    Cheers, Foweva Awone.

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



  • #122
    DisneyLover
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭DisneyLover


    1800_Ladladlad wrote: »
    How much was your stay ?

    Well it depends on what insurance cover you have. I was in for anxiety and depression the other illness can be more expensive like rehab or ED in patient .. mine worked out I think around 750 a day.

    My outpatient stuff was -

    3.5 hour assessment for eating disorder diagnoses with a nurse, dietician and head ED consultant - 600 euro

    CBT for eating disorder - 150 euro an hour for session. It's 75 for now on my VHI. I get free appointments with my dietician.


  • #123
    DisneyLover
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭DisneyLover


    Think my stay in pats was around 68000/70000. Cause I didn't have full insurance my parents paid 17000 grand when I left.


  • #124
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,888 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Think we will see this becoming a bigger problem in the next few weeks. The longer these restrictions stay in place the worse mental health will suffer

    Starting to feel pissed off at this stage, same walks/routine everyday and not possible to go anywhere else due to the restrictions. I was due to get an austism assessment this month but that is getting pushed back (I was offered to do it through skype but no way something that important done in that format)

    I'm doing my weights/body exercises which is a positive but is repetitive. Doing a few online quizzes and looking at a few courses on ecollege


  • #125
    motionwaves
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭motionwaves


    DisneyLover wrote: »
    Think my stay in pats was around 68000/70000. Cause I didn't have full insurance my parents paid 17000 grand when I left.

    This reads 68K/70K. Is that right?


  • #126
    Foweva Awone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    motionwaves wrote: »
    This reads 68K/70K. Is that right?

    Anytime I've been there it works out close to 30k a month. From what I've seen, most patients stay anywhere from 1-3 months at a time.


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  • #127
    Xertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    Any ideas for being unable to sleep during this?

    I'm just not sleeping properly at all since it kicked off and more so since the 'lockdown.'

    I've had no stress at home or anything like that, but I'm just becoming a total insomniac.


  • #128
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,888 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Xertz wrote: »
    Any ideas for being unable to sleep during this?

    I'm just not sleeping properly at all since it kicked off and more so since the 'lockdown.'

    I've had no stress at home or anything like that, but I'm just becoming a total insomniac.

    Same boat as u and even taking sleep tablets

    I'm not going to sleep til 4.30am each night this not getting out of bed til 2pm. Waking up a few times

    I'm excersing during the days. Could be possibly energy drinks I'm consuming


  • #129
    DisneyLover
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭DisneyLover


    motionwaves wrote: »
    This reads 68K/70K. Is that right?

    That's why I wrote 68000/70000... lol. But my dad paid around 17000 my insurance covered the rest. If you've full insurance you dont have to pay any of it.


  • #130
    DisneyLover
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭DisneyLover


    Foweva Awone wrote: »
    Anytime I've been there it works out close to 30k a month. From what I've seen, most patients stay anywhere from 1-3 months at a time.

    Yep depends on the patient. I had prof fearon at the time and he told me minimum 12 weeks and I was there just over 13. Man knows everything lol

    Depends on what level and illness you have it's around 21 thousand for depression / anxiety cause it was 750 a day for me.


  • #131
    DisneyLover
    Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭DisneyLover


    Xertz wrote: »
    Any ideas for being unable to sleep during this?

    I'm just not sleeping properly at all since it kicked off and more so since the 'lockdown.'

    I've had no stress at home or anything like that, but I'm just becoming a total insomniac.

    I had insomnia as a teen so I have to use my old trick. And it always works but isn't healthy.

    So my sister and I were both up til 7 or 8 am then sleeping til 4pm daily for 2 weeks lol. So last week we stayed up an entire night and didn't nap and went to bed at 9pm. Full reset our body clocks been going at 11 or 12 since.


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  • #132
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    Ireland are now 13th in the world for deaths per capita. taking out the micro countries we are 10th

    That's frightening

    I knew 3-4 weeks ago that the infrastructure of our health system wouldn't handle this. Nor would the government act fast enough

    I've friends in three different countries who are dealing with this 5 times better and looked into living in one of them (I've lived in two of them previously) for as long as I could get a visa there

    With closed borders all over the world (and for a long time), that ship has passed

    Now every day my anxiety grows to scary levels and my mental health is on its knees

    On one hand: this subforum is helping me be a lot more vigilant about all this, when many are like sleepwalking zombies who are completely unaware of how serious this is

    On the other: All the daily information has me absolutely mentally fried

    I'm an information junkie though, always have been. I always need to know as much as possible about anything as severe as this


  • #133
    Xertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    It's worth remembering that the current death rate would likely be relating to policies from 14+ days ago, when we were not on a real lock down and many people weren't taking things as seriously as now.

    So, you could see a decline when those measures start to show up in the numbers of people actually developing symptoms. There's always going to be a lag of a few weeks.

    We're pretty much in line with countries like Denmark and so on, so I don't think we're necessarily handling it that badly, rather we are where we are geographically and that's how it got here.

    I actually think the HSE has been doing remarkably well. We still have ICU capacity and it hasn't, at least yet, been overwhelmed. It also added a huge amount of capacity by just pulling out all the stops. They've rolled out pretty competent telemedicine apps and all sorts of things. I'm actually surprisingly somewhat impressed with what it's capable of doing when it's all-hands-on-deck and everyone willing to just get on with it.

    Closing the borders might have made sense a month ago, but when you've 1.3 million Irish people making trips to just say Spain in an average year, you can see why the fact we're an island is irrelevant. We're one of the most connected places on the planet, as is much of Europe and the US. I mean, you can't really compare Ireland with say New Zealand in terms of connectedness. We're far, far, far less remote.

    In a lot of those places it's a hell of a lot easier to lock down aviation as almost all of the international aspects are long-haul. We've a vast network of short haul flights.


  • #134
    caviardreams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Does anyone else live on their own? Normally I really love it but now the reality of not seeing/talking to a single "actual" real person (not videos, phone etc.) for the past 3-4 weeks is starting to hit me - how are other people who live by themselves coping with this?


  • #135
    Foweva Awone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭Foweva Awone


    caviardreams wrote: »
    Does anyone else live on their own? Normally I really love it but now the reality of not seeing/talking to a single "actual" real person (not videos, phone etc.) for the past 3-4 weeks is starting to hit me - how are other people who live by themselves coping with this?

    Lots of phone calls and texting. I make sure to get up and dressed and out for a walk every day, there are plenty out walking in my area so even though I don't interact with them it's good to see other human beings!


  • #136
    caviardreams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,613 ✭✭✭caviardreams


    Foweva Awone wrote: »
    Lots of phone calls and texting. I make sure to get up and dressed and out for a walk every day, there are plenty out walking in my area so even though I don't interact with them it's good to see other human beings!

    Thanks Foweva! I do find that helps a bit though sometimes it feels like everybody is out walking with somebody else/couples/family etc. and it sometimes makes you feel like you're the only person on your own! Easter is probably making things worse and it will be better come Tuesday (never thought I'd say that! :D:D)


  • #137
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,888 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    3 more weeks of this

    Challenge has gone up a notch


  • #138
    son.of.jimi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭son.of.jimi


    I'm going to snap.

    On Thursday 12th March 2020, I was told to empty my locker, get my toolbox and leave until further notice from my training center. On Friday 13th March I was due to start my Theory 1 paper. My employer closed their doors to the public and have an emergency only service in place where only 2 technicians are required for those in dire need.

    What happens to my progress? 2019 was the hardest thing I've had to go through, I took the plunge, left a well paying but mind-numbing job where I had zero joy, I decided to re-skill, found something I'm good at and I enjoy but had to use all of my savings to survive, I've put a massive strain on everyone around me, my GF, My family, my friends, I'm on a pay-scale that is an absolute joke to to SIMI setting the apprentice rates and now my training and progress has come to a complete standstill.

    I can't see my own family, I've been holed up this entire time and now I find out the extension is til May 5th?

    2020 was looking good, but honestly now, I don't know how I can continue on the path I'm currently stood in. Anybody else in a similar situation?

    I need to rant so thanks to whoever has took the time to read.


  • #139
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    son.of.jimi wrote: »
    I'm going to snap.

    On Thursday 12th March 2020, I was told to empty my locker, get my toolbox and leave until further notice from my training center. On Friday 13th March I was due to start my Theory 1 paper. My employer closed their doors to the public and have an emergency only service in place where only 2 technicians are required for those in dire need.

    What happens to my progress? 2019 was the hardest thing I've had to go through, I took the plunge, left a well paying but mind-numbing job where I had zero joy, I decided to re-skill, found something I'm good at and I enjoy but had to use all of my savings to survive, I've put a massive strain on everyone around me, my GF, My family, my friends, I'm on a pay-scale that is an absolute joke to to SIMI setting the apprentice rates and now my training and progress has come to a complete standstill.

    I can't see my own family, I've been holed up this entire time and now I find out the extension is til May 5th?

    2020 was looking good, but honestly now, I don't know how I can continue on the path I'm currently stood in. Anybody else in a similar situation?

    I need to rant so thanks to whoever has took the time to read.

    Hope the rant helped son.of.jimi. It can be good to get things off your chest.

    These are extraordinary times, but the wheel is always turning and some day we will start getting things back on track. IF you had stayed in that mind-numbing job, you might still be struggling right now, and what would be in prospect would be returning to that.

    The day will come when you will be qualified in your new role, earning decent money and doing something that gives you joy. It might seem like a long way off right now, but when that day comes, it will feel sweeter for having struggled to get there.


  • #140
    ShineOn7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭ShineOn7


    son.of.jimi wrote: »

    2020 was looking good, but honestly now, I don't know how I can continue on the path I'm currently stood in. Anybody else in a similar situation?


    Hang in there man

    And I say that as someone who's had some very dark days over the last month with all this. I've needed to say the same thing to myself many times: "hang on in there"

    I'm looking into CBD oil to help with anxiety and maybe you could too. I think it was mentioned in this thread a few pages back. It'd be great if anyone could remind us of the best brands of it, I believe the highest quality of it is around 100 euros a bottle?

    Ta


  • #141
    Dymo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭Dymo


    This book is free on Kindle but only for today

    Dare: The New Way to End Anxiety and Stop Panic Attacks Fast
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dare-Anxiety-Stop-Panic-Attacks-ebook/dp/B0158S7E1G


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  • #142
    speckle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    Xertz wrote: »
    Any ideas for being unable to sleep during this?

    I'm just not sleeping properly at all since it kicked off and more so since the 'lockdown.'

    I've had no stress at home or anything like that, but I'm just becoming a total insomniac.

    a routine.
    start with getting up at the same time
    then night time
    after 9pm no screen time
    nothing in the bedroom to distract ie tv mobile etc
    only what is needed for sleep or sex.
    read a book if it helps or relaxing music or meditation that will turn itself off.
    if tossing and turning get up for a short time
    no excercise immediately before bed
    milky drink or check health food shop eg valerian tea etc/check thats ok with gp
    make your bedroom your sanctuary
    if stresssed write stresses down put in a box
    try a sleep reset like below
    totally dark room
    your body temperature needs to be slightly lower so turn down heat.
    maybe open a window a little
    do some research online
    think beaumount or vincents has a sleep clinic with online resources
    some good books/resources available online for free.
    hope something helps in that list for starters
    ps sometimes we think we are not stressed intellectually but our body and subconcious know a nd we are in the middle of major changes at the moment.


  • #143
    speckle
    Registered Users Posts: 2,251 ✭✭✭speckle


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    3 more weeks of this

    Challenge has gone up a notch
    I really like the way you say CHALLENGE.
    A real positive way of looking at it. I am sure you can rise to it. And its okay to sometimes to say it even if you feel like your shaking and quaking in your boots.


  • #144
    AppleD
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭AppleD


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    3 more weeks of this

    Challenge has gone up a notch

    We are being asked to stay home. I can think of worse things.

    Honest question- what’s so bad about it?

    For me- I am seeing so many positives. So much less traffic, so better for the environment. No commute to work- mornings are so much more easy.
    I can fit exercise or meditation in to my working day. As opposed to trying to fit it in after a day in the office. An office where I have to sit down pretty much all day long and the temperature, break hours etc is all decided for me.

    I had my birthday today. And it was so good. Just chilling on the balcony. No place to be. No deciding where to go or who to meet up with. Just chilling and knowing that all I had to do was stay home- read, video call, listen to music, text and watch tv.

    We are so lucky we live in a developed country and have so much luxuries in our homes.

    I’m genuinely intrigued as to why three weeks is such a big challenge for some. And I don’t mean that to come across bad. I could happily live like this for another few weeks at least. Yes I miss family but I will see them at some stage- staying healthy is the priority right now.


  • #145
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,814 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    AppleD wrote: »

    Honest question- what’s so bad about it?

    I’m genuinely intrigued as to why three weeks is such a big challenge for some. And I don’t mean that to come across bad. I could happily live like this for another few weeks at least. Yes I miss family but I will see them at some stage- staying healthy is the priority right now.

    I think some people are just used to being around people all the time and they are just bored out of their wits and there's only so much TV, Internet, books, etc they can put up with.
    When my work place was open I spoke to an older man who traveled around the World and was in countries when there was wars going on, stricter laws around certain things, were less developed than us and he said that nothing was worse than this because he at least had people and he know the reasons for it and why it has to happen but people find it hard.

    People are also cracking because they feel there job will be gone in a few weeks and prospect of finding one seems slim.

    All this #Stayathome, get over yourself, etc isn't really helping people from what I can see who are struggling.


  • #146
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    AppleD wrote: »
    For me- I am seeing so many positives. So much less traffic, so better for the environment.
    I'm with you on many things, especially because there is less traffic (Dublin seismology team recorded 1/3 of the amount of human - vibration related seismic activity as a consequence). However, each morning I look at the AQI to see the air quality (Airvisual is a great app) and the last few mornings it's been at 52. This is very bad quality air to be breathing. It's likely due to gorse fires started by farmers and allowed run rampage because of the dry weather. So unfortunately we still manage to find a way to sh!t all over the planet.


  • #147
    AppleD
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭AppleD


    freshpopcorn wrote: »
    I think some people are just used to being around people all the time and they are just bored out of their wits and there's only so much TV, Internet, books, etc they can put up with.
    When my work place was open I spoke to an older man who traveled around the World and was in countries when there was wars going on, stricter laws around certain things, were less developed than us and he said that nothing was worse than this because he at least had people and he know the reasons for it and why it has to happen but people find it hard.

    People are also cracking because they feel there job will be gone in a few weeks and prospect of finding one seems slim.

    All this #Stayathome, get over yourself, etc isn't really helping people from what I can see who are struggling.


    Thanks I really was just looking for another perspective to try and understand why 3 weeks is such a challenge. My own job is uncertain but that’s a worry for beyond three weeks.

    I agree there’s only so much tv books etc you can read. But thanks to the internet we have so much at our fingertips. I’m looking at doing free online courses. There is no way I will get bored in the next 3 weeks. The past 4 have flown.
    I’m also volunteering with Alone for the next few weeks, answering telephone calls from home. Giving 1 - 2 hours a day to it.
    They are still looking for people so if anyone is bored maybe they can help with that.

    I genuinely was just asking as to why people are finding it so difficult.


  • #148
    SwimFin
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭SwimFin


    The renowned philosopher Alain de Botton, returns to How To Fail With Elizabeth Day to talk about how to be human and how to stay (relatively) sane in the grip of a global pandemic.

    https://play.acast.com/s/how-to-fail1/howtofail.podbean.com%2F02c109cf-0fa3-5f07-9a7b-5b8181d1a2af


    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/special-episode-alain-botton-on-embracing-vulnerability/id1407451189?i=1000470060728


  • #149
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,814 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    AppleD wrote: »
    .

    I genuinely was just asking as to why people are finding it so difficult.

    I understand where your coming from another thing to bear in mind is most of the people I know who are over 70 don’t use the internet. I live the in a rural area and they simply never got into computers,etc. I would even include people over 50 in this bracket.


  • #150
    GoneHome
    Registered Users Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭GoneHome


    AppleD wrote: »
    We are being asked to stay home. I can think of worse things.

    Honest question- what’s so bad about it?

    I’m genuinely intrigued as to why three weeks is such a big challenge for some. And I don’t mean that to come across bad. I could happily live like this for another few weeks at least. Yes I miss family but I will see them at some stage- staying healthy is the priority right now.

    This is it exactly, I can't understand why people are complaining, we are all doing this for the greater good. For me personally it's great to have a few weeks off work, getting a bucket load of work done around the house and garden, just generally relaxing with no deadlines to meet, getting all those books read that I never had time to get full into with work commitments. Yes I'm missing sport and meeting up with my buddies at the weekend but it's all for the greater good. Relax people and enjoy this time.


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  • #151
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,814 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    GoneHome wrote: »
    This is it exactly, I can't understand why people are complaining, we are all doing this for the greater good. For me personally it's great to have a few weeks off work, getting a bucket load of work done around the house and garden, just generally relaxing with no deadlines to meet, getting all those books read that I never had time to get full into with work commitments. Yes I'm missing sport and meeting up with my buddies at the weekend but it's all for the greater good. Relax people and enjoy this time.

    See the thing is.
    Audrey might say I’m missing my cups of Coffee at Roy’s and Sally might make a big song and dance out of Audrey’s comment. She just said she missed something similar to how you miss something.
    Most people know it’s for the greater good.


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