The Ashes 2019

nice bit of green · 01-08-2019 10:20pm

Guerilla cricket is how I listen to it. It’s a few very knowledgeable cricket fans commentating on what they see on Sky. Light hearted, a few swear words and lots of funny jingles. Defo worth a listen.

Beasty · 01-08-2019 10:22pm

Drifter50 wrote: »

Long Wave 198 should get you reasonable coverage on the east coast anywat

Not that many radios have LW nowadays, but I've discovered 720 MW which carries Radio 4, and in particular TMS

blueser · 01-08-2019 10:33pm

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

almost as bad as ben stokes :rolleyes:

and anderson is one of the worst sledgers ever.

Re Stokes; personally, I wouldn't have him in my team, even if he was cleared in a court of law. As for Anderson; sledging is one thing. Threatening someone with a broken arm is something else. You obviously don't think so. Fine. You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. As am I. As I said though, to put the booing down to solely "English nationalism" is utter rubbish.

Beasty · 01-08-2019 10:36pm

There is little doubt that Anderson is highly respected throughout the cricket world.

t8010789 · 01-08-2019 10:49pm

Beasty wrote: »

Not that many radios have LW nowadays, but I've discovered 720 MW which carries Radio 4, and in particular TMS

You can also listen on YouTube by visiting the bbc sport website and clicking on the cricket feed during play, then click on listening overseas which links you to YouTube. From my experience it’s rather data heavy.

01-08-2019 11:03pm

nice bit of green wrote: »

I cannot relate to the rivalry between these 2 sides but it seems a bit faux. Having said that, there seems to be a significant minority of both English & Australian people that love to antagonize others so let them at it. They seem made for each other.

I think you have to really understand the Aussie cricket mentality to get it.They will call you every name under the sun during the game, nothing is taboo when it comes to sledging.

Score a ton and they’ll congratulate you, pat you in the back and then proceed to try and take your head off

But once the day is done, they’ll buy you a drink, marvel at your great stroke play and pledge their eternal love.

Before calling you a **** and trying to remove your kidneys in the first over the next day.

nice bit of green · 02-08-2019 8:36am

Ha ha, thanks Aegir. Tbh i’ve not met that many Aussies, it’s just the ones on the radio that make me feel a bit queasy.

Bridge93 · 02-08-2019 9:26am

Smith's innings is one of the best i've ever witnessed. The 'great' innings tend to be skewed to 4th innings efforts but given where he's come from and the game situation that was stunning. The bloke is a freak when it comes to test batting. Averaging 9 more than any other active batsman. He may notbe as pretty to watch as some but in many ways that adds to why i love watching him bat. A guy just totally at ease with his own game and style showing you do not need to be straight from a batting manual to be brilliant. The best since Bradman.

y0ssar1an22 · 02-08-2019 9:42am

blueser wrote: »

Re Stokes; personally, I wouldn't have him in my team, even if he was cleared in a court of law. As for Anderson; sledging is one thing. Threatening someone with a broken arm is something else. You obviously don't think so. Fine. You're perfectly entitled to your opinion. As am I. As I said though, to put the booing down to solely "English nationalism" is utter rubbish.

i enjoy the boo-ing. its add to the atmosphere and i dont think its malicious. all in good fun and adds to the spectacle. plus smith prob thrives off it.

do you really think michael clarke would have broken his arm? it was sledging IMO but we can agree to disagree

anyway, lets hope for a goods days cricket today with plenty of ebbs and flows

El_Duderino 09 · 02-08-2019 9:48am

Drifter50 wrote: »

Long Wave 198 should get you reasonable coverage on the east coast anywat

What about the BBC radio app? They have coverage all day, every day. Can you download the app in Ireland? I downloaded it onto my phone in the UK

02-08-2019 10:16am

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i enjoy the boo-ing. its add to the atmosphere and i dont think its malicious. all in good fun and adds to the spectacle. plus smith prob thrives off it.

do you really think michael clarke would have broken his arm? it was sledging IMO but we can agree to disagree

anyway, lets hope for a goods days cricket today with plenty of ebbs and flows

Edgbaston is always a very rowdy crowd as well. The Hollies stand is more like a football stand than a cricket one. I watched an ashes test there and listened to them sing "Ten men went to bed, went to bed with Shane Warne" for an entire day.

The fact i was surrounded by men dressed as undertakers and wearing fake boobs just added to the atmosphere:D

I think the thing to note from yesterday though, was that they booed smith when he came on, booed his century, but gave him a standing ovation when he went off.

blueser · 02-08-2019 10:26am

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i enjoy the boo-ing. its add to the atmosphere and i dont think its malicious. all in good fun and adds to the spectacle. plus smith prob thrives off it.

do you really think michael clarke would have broken his arm? it was sledging IMO but we can agree to disagree

anyway, lets hope for a goods days cricket today with plenty of ebbs and flows

To be fair, I never said that Clarke would actually do it. It was verbals; all sledging is. Take the famous Eddo Brandes "biscuit" comment to Glenn McGrath; you don't seriously think that's based on factual events, do you? Stuff is said out in the middle that I'm sure players cringe when they look back on it.

blueser · 02-08-2019 10:32am

Aegir wrote: »

Edgbaston is always a very rowdy crowd as well. The Hollies stand is more like a football stand than a cricket one. I watched an ashes test there and listened to them sing "Ten men went to bed, went to bed with Shane Warne" for an entire day.

The fact i was surrounded by men dressed as undertakers and wearing fake boobs just added to the atmosphere:D

I think the thing to note from yesterday though, was that they booed smith when he came on, booed his century, but gave him a standing ovation when he went off.

Headingly as well. The western terrace, on a hot sunny saturday, with the crowd full of beer, is not a place for the faint hearted. I think there's a perception among some Irish people that cricket is an upper class game, played in public schools and watched by the landed gentry. Shots of the members' pavilion and the long room at Lords, populated by old fellas in garish ties and straw boater hats would fuel that perception. But if you go to either the Hollies St stand or the Western Terrace (Trent Bridge and OT as well, actually), and you'd soon discover that there are a lot of so called "working class" cricket fans and they can get quite rowdy.

wicorthered · 02-08-2019 12:57pm

Wow the Aussies are useless with the DRS system. 2 of their batsmen would have saved themselves and now they let Burns off. The coaching staff should maybe teach the players the rules!

Royale with Cheese · 02-08-2019 2:01pm

Cant remember seeing this many umpiring errors in the first 1.5 days of a test before, not since DRS came in anyway. And Dharmasena isn't even out there.

blueser · 02-08-2019 2:30pm

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Cant remember seeing this many umpiring errors in the first 1.5 days of a test before, not since DRS came in anyway. And Dharmasena isn't even out there.

Can't see those two getting another test this summer. They've been woeful. As they said on Sky this morning, most of the elite umpires are English or Australian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elite_Panel_of_ICC_Umpires

That's 7 out of 12. And they can't officiate at tests involving their own countries. That rule needs to be changed. In this era, with the amount of cameras at test games, any hint of bias would be spotted a mile off. I don't think any of those umpires would be crazy enough to favour their own nations with obviously biased decisions.

VillaMad · 02-08-2019 4:59pm

England were dominating the day when the umpires decided that the ball should be changed.

Immediately it made a difference with Denly and Buttler going as the new ball started to show a lot more swing. Doesn't seem really fair that.

bilston · 02-08-2019 5:16pm

Burns gets his ton. That should secure his place for more or less the rest of the series.

Brilliantly poised test match at the moment, England should get a lead, but it's unlikely to be definitive.

Inquitus · 02-08-2019 6:39pm

bilston wrote: »

Burns gets his ton. That should secure his place for more or less the rest of the series.

Brilliantly poised test match at the moment, England should get a lead, but it's unlikely to be definitive.

Well from their current position they would want to get at least 150 in front you'd think, which should take a defeat off the table at least.

blueser · 02-08-2019 6:50pm

Inquitus wrote: »

Well from their current position they would want to get at least 150 in front you'd think, which should take a defeat off the table at least.

I don't know. 430 is still a long way off. Particularly with four of our top order back in the hutch. Nevertheless, a good recovery today after that disappointment of letting the Aussies off the hook yesterday afternoon.

VillaMad · 02-08-2019 7:17pm

England's day with a day of good old fashioned test cricket where runs and wickets were hard fought for.

They will need a substantial lead you would think though with the pitch taking a bit of spin already. You would think Lyon would be lethal in the fourth innings and you wouldn't want to chase too much.

bilston · 02-08-2019 7:40pm

Inquitus wrote: »

Well from their current position they would want to get at least 150 in front you'd think, which should take a defeat off the table at least.

True, although to be fair when I posted the above England had just lost Butter and Denly in short order.

I still think it's in the balance. England have to bat last and Lyon is already getting plenty of turn. England won't want to be chasing 200 batting last. If Australia get them out for less than 350 then it's set up for Smith or Warner to set England a challenging target.

Equally if England bat most of tomorrow then it goes the other way.

Beasty · 02-08-2019 8:23pm

England could bat all day, in which case they would be very well placed for a victory. Alternatively they could be all out in the first session which might just favour Australia given the likely deterioration of the pitch for the 4th innings. Even if they can keep going for a couple of sessions, I think that increases the chances of a definitive result with England then very strong favourites

Conchir · 02-08-2019 9:48pm

I've been to Test matches in Lord's and the Oval (and Malahide

) but it sounded like a lot of fun in Edgbaston today! Might have to add it to the list of grounds I want to go to!

SharpshooterTom · 03-08-2019 9:20am

Beasty wrote: »

I think that increases the chances of a definitive result with England then very strong favourites

England are very strong favourites as it is.

England 3/10
Draw 7/1
Australia 8/1

blueser · 03-08-2019 9:32am

Huge day coming up. If we can bat through to tea (a big "if"), and get a lead anywhere around 150-200, we'll be in a decent position. Then try to prise out a couple of the Aussie top order.

Strumms · 03-08-2019 11:38am

Good positive start from England but a very timely and much needed wicket there for Australia. Stokes looking in great shape and dangerous shape but the thinnest of edges sees him on his way. Looks suitably pîssed with himself, given the shot he played and how the game was poised and him looking in great shape.

Strumms · 03-08-2019 12:18pm

Another falls. Poor batting, pitching a couple of inches outside of off. Never a ball to be left. A very poor non shot to be fair.

Adamcp898 · 03-08-2019 12:22pm

Strumms wrote: »

Another falls. Poor batting, pitching a couple of inches outside of off. Never a ball to be left. A very poor non shot to be fair.

Very poor, expected it to grip and it didn’t.

Bairstow gone now too.

Royale with Cheese · 03-08-2019 12:22pm

Is Bairstow worth his place in the team?

BarryD2 · 03-08-2019 12:27pm

blueser wrote: »

Huge day coming up. If we can bat through to tea (a big "if"), and get a lead anywhere around 150-200, we'll be in a decent position. Then try to prise out a couple of the Aussie top order.

Hah, Aussies are roaring back into this. How quickly things can turn, literally! Eng to bat last facing Lyons.....

bilston · 03-08-2019 12:27pm

England have well and truly blown this.

Batting 4th against Lyon on this wicket.

Unless Woakes and Broad can put on 50 here I'd be putting my money on Australia.

Strumms · 03-08-2019 12:29pm

8 down and England would bite your hand off for a lead of 50. At the start of play you have expected a lead of 150 minimum thereabouts considering the wickets in hand and the momentum the England team had. Credit to the Aussies though it’s been aggressive this morning. Both with field positions and bowling.

bilston · 03-08-2019 12:40pm

The Donald Trump baby costume...brilliant!

bilston · 03-08-2019 12:48pm

Strumms wrote: »

8 down and England would bite your hand off for a lead of 50. At the start of play you have expected a lead of 150 minimum thereabouts considering the wickets in hand and the momentum the England team had. Credit to the Aussies though it’s been aggressive this morning. Both with field positions and bowling.

Every run really matters here.

If England have to chase 200+ then I think Australia win. Even 150-200 won't be easy.

In saying that if England can get a lead of 50 then all of a sudden Australia probably need 250+ in their second innings which won't be easy either.

This is why test cricket is still king...there are so many potential possibilities

Strumms · 03-08-2019 1:13pm

bilston wrote: »

Every run really matters here.

If England have to chase 200+ then I think Australia win. Even 150-200 won't be easy.

In saying that if England can get a lead of 50 then all of a sudden Australia probably need 250+ in their second innings which won't be easy either.

This is why test cricket is still king...there are so many potential possibilities

Yep, every run is crucial here now. Be interesting to see how Broad and Woakes play against the rested Aussie quicks after lunch. Might even suit them as Lyon has looked difficult enough to get away. They might even keep him going.

Inquitus · 03-08-2019 4:58pm

They need to get rid of Smith, he's single-handedly carrying the whole Aussie team on his back.

03-08-2019 7:09pm

bilston wrote: »

The Donald Trump baby costume...brilliant!

I liked the BBC report this evening

.....while the Pope, builders, some crayons and the 1966 World Cup winning team all partied in the Hollies stand......

SharpshooterTom · 03-08-2019 7:11pm

I still would be optimistic of England a chasing somewhere upwards of 250 yet.

Its still a good wicket, although its turning, its hardly a raging turner. Australia themselves are 124/3 proving its still a decent batting surface and bare in mind also Warner and Bancroft have chucked their wickets away.

SharpshooterTom · 03-08-2019 7:12pm

bilston wrote: »

The Donald Trump baby costume...brilliant!

Being chased around by a load of people in ponchos and sombreros as well.

I think one of them was whacking him with a blow up cactus.

BarryD2 · 03-08-2019 9:37pm

Good comeback by Eng for their last couple of wickets. Still, all to play for - lot depends again on Smith and middle order. Assuming play is possible and if they can bat through a good bit of tomorrow, it'll swing their way.

Beasty · 03-08-2019 9:50pm

BarryD2 wrote: »

t'll swing their way.

depending on the weather it may be swinging both ways....:)

StringerBell · 03-08-2019 10:04pm

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

Is Bairstow worth his place in the team?

No, and neither is Wade in the Aussie case (nor feckin Paine on current form!)

Wade takes the biscuit though, what in the name of holy bejesus is he doing in the Aussie team?

Didn't get to see much of the action today but glad to see its still nicely poised, Warner gone is a relief to England but that man of course still being there is going to give some of them a restless night tonight.

StringerBell · 03-08-2019 10:06pm

Oh and I will just go ahead and assume now that it will be just about playable there tomorrow with plenty of cloud overhead to help England

Beasty · 03-08-2019 10:17pm

Bairstow is worth his place in the team on his batting. Yes there have been suggestions of Foakes as he's a better keeper and not a bad batter. look at Bairstow's record over the past few years though, and it's quite clear he would be in ahead of Buttler and Stokes as a batsman, and there was quite a lot of talk of making him an opener with Roy given the way they played in the WC. The only real way they could have done that would have been to make Buttler keeper, and it would have been risking Bairstow failing (which I suspect would have been a probability rather than possibility), when he has been so successful at test level as wicketkeeper/batsman

Of course, I would say all of that, as I am a Yorkshireman. Equally I would love him to be playing regularly for his county as he is so incredibly talented (in the WC he was far and away England's best outfielder and I suspect could have been called on to bowl if required - his dad was also able to tun his arm over with a few FC wickets as well as playing football for Bradford City)

StringerBell · 03-08-2019 11:19pm

Bairstow has been poor as a Test batsman for a while now tbf, his short form batting is not an issue but he has been scratching around in Tests, he is down to what? 7th now? Himself and Moeen are on their last legs in that team....though then again, given the way the England selectors are, maybe not?

He isn't exactly a whole lot better than his competition as wicket keeper either.

He's averaging 14 in his last 8 innings, most of those v Ireland and the WI.

8,0,0,2,14 make up his last 5 innings in test cricket.

BarryD2 · 04-08-2019 12:14pm

Decent start this morning by this pair, keeping the runs ticking along and not giving up too many chances. But who knows, things can change very quickly if Eng get a break through.

VillaMad · 04-08-2019 1:44pm

Australia all over England and Smith has the game at his control.

Moeen Ali looks short of confidence and isn't bowling with much zip and with Anderson probably done for the series, things aren't looking good for England right now as the lead continues to build.

bilston · 04-08-2019 1:48pm

VillaMad wrote: »

Australia all over England and Smith has the game at his control.

Moeen Ali looks short of confidence and isn't bowling with much zip and with Anderson probably done for the series, things aren't looking good for England right now as the lead continues to build.

Hard to know until Lyon bowls whether the wicket will be as hard to bat on as England may fear.

However showers are forecast from about 4pm today and tomorrow looks a washout until lunchtime.

I'd back a draw from here.

Another ton for Smith. He is incredible.

Conchir · 04-08-2019 2:05pm

He is just a fantastic Test cricketer.

The Ashes 2019

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