Who thinks Trump will win?

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-09-2020 8:25pm

fr336 wrote: »

I said this on the main trump thread the other day and they thought i was mad. The tide is unfortunately turning and older biden is sadly a liability. A few years ago he would have probably walked it. The bigger problem for the dems however is they think moaning about trump like children is an election strategy - he is the master at throwing this back at them and so far theyre not even turning up for the game. Worrying times for the world with trump having a second term.

He's four years older than Trump, meanwhile Trump is showing signs of a stroke.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:25pm

LessOutragePlz wrote:

We'll see another for years of Trump continuing to Make America Great.

More than likely civil war then

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-09-2020 8:26pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

He is not sending in troops and drones to kill them I'm sure they appreciate that whatever they may think of him

Oh the drone strikes continue unabated, Trump just put a ban on reporting temhem because he was killing more civilians than Obama.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:27pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote:

He's four years older than Trump, meanwhile Trump is showing signs of a stroke.

Not sure about that, but who knows, think it's npd and dyslexia myself, and God knows what other issues

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-09-2020 8:27pm

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

We'll see another for years of Trump continuing to Make America Great.

Nearly a quarter million dead, rioting on the streets, massive unemployment. What a time to be alive :rolleyes:

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-09-2020 8:29pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Not sure about that, but who knows, think it's npd and dyslexia myself, and God knows what other issues

#Trumpstroke trending

https://twitter.com/JRehling/status/1300811242714488832?s=19

MFPM · 01-09-2020 8:30pm

Biden is a terrible candidate but he'll beat Trump, Trump will beat himself.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:30pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote:

#Trumpstroke trending

Possible alright, he also could be extremely stressed

Cirrus Incus · 01-09-2020 8:30pm

Trump is still unlikley to win based on current forecast models, which are now more cautious after the 2016 upset. All of which point to a very likely Biden electoral college win. 2016 had two very unpopular candidates. Biden is more broadly like and less disliked than Clinton was. It will probably tighten up in the final weeks though.

I'm very tempted to bet a stupid amount of money on Biden, good value available with his current odds. I'm more worried about Biden's health requiring him to withdraw rather than him actually losing the election.

MFPM · 01-09-2020 8:31pm

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

We'll see another for years of Trump continuing to Make America Great.

At least you have the courtesy to drop the 'Again' from MAGA.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:31pm

MFPM wrote:

Biden is a terrible candidate but he'll beat Trump, Trump will beat himself.

True, think he already has

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:32pm

Cirrus Incus wrote:

I'm very tempted to bet a stupid amount of money on Biden, good value available with his current odds. I'm more worried about Biden's health requiring him to withdraw rather than him actually losing the election.

Still think it could be very close, hard to know

Man with broke phone · 01-09-2020 8:32pm

Haha democratic strategy is

1 call Trump names

2 call trump voters names

3 riot and wreck the place

4 claim trump has medical issues diagnosed by watching him on twitter videos

5 cry and claim fraud when he wins a second term.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:34pm

Man with broke phone wrote:

Haha democratic strategy is

Democracy left America a long time ago

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-09-2020 8:36pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Haha democratic strategy is

1 call Trump names

2 call trump voters names

3 riot and wreck the place

4 claim trump has medical issues diagnosed by watching him on twitter videos

5 cry and claim fraud when he wins a second term.

Meanwhile the Trump strategy is

1 call anyone who disagrees with him names

2 call Biden voters names

3 Support white supremacists and murderers

4 claim Biden has medical issues diagnosed by watching him on twitter videos

5 cry and claim fraud when he loses (he has already said he can only lose if the elections rigged)

MFPM · 01-09-2020 8:37pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Haha democratic strategy is

1 call Trump names

2 call trump voters names

3 riot and wreck the place

4 claim trump has medical issues diagnosed by watching him on twitter videos

5 cry and claim fraud when he wins a second term.

You forgot that..

1. Trump calls people names 'Sleepy Joe' - 'Crazy Bernie'
2. Trump calls non Trump voters names
3. The far right kill people on the streets and not just far right cops.
4. Allegedly Biden has medical issues diagnosed by watching him on twitter videos.
5. I'll leave the crystal ball gazing on that one to you suffice to say Trump has been undermining the USPS claiming alleged fraud..

fr336 · 01-09-2020 8:38pm

Trump hasnt had no stroke. Hes as sharp as ever on twitter. I dont mean sharp as in intelligence i mean at attacking the dems and producing insights about them which stick. Its VERY worrying that starting rumours like this appears to be all the dems have.

Cody montana · 01-09-2020 8:39pm

Man with broke phone wrote: »

Haha democratic strategy is

1 call Trump names

2 call trump voters names

3 riot and wreck the place

4 claim trump has medical issues diagnosed by watching him on twitter videos

5 cry and claim fraud when he wins a second term.

Republicans strategy.

Blame democrats for thumps presidency.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:40pm

fr336 wrote:

Trump hasnt had no stroke. Hes as sharp as ever on twitter. I dont mean sharp as in intelligence i mean at attacking the dems and producing insights about them which stick. Its VERY worrying that starting rumours like this appears to be all the dems have.

Don't know why people would be reading it, he's as thick as anything

Timberrrrrrrr · 01-09-2020 8:40pm

fr336 wrote: »

Trump hasnt had no stroke. Hes as sharp as ever on twitter. I dont mean sharp as in intelligence i mean at attacking the dems and producing insights about them which stick. Its VERY worrying that starting rumours like this appears to be all the dems have.

Have you proof that its Trump sending those tweets? Also hasn't Trump and his zealots been spreading rumours about Bidens health for months now?

fr336 · 01-09-2020 8:40pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Meanwhile the Trump strategy is

1 call anyone who disagrees with him names

2 call Biden voters names

3 Support white supremacists and murderers

4 claim Biden has medical issues diagnosed by watching him on twitter videos

5 cry and claim fraud when he loses (he has already said he can only lose if the elections rigged)

The problem is most of us here want the dems to win, and their strategy sucks. Trump is president so his strategy is working.

Cody montana · 01-09-2020 8:41pm

fr336 wrote: »

Trump hasnt had no stroke. Hes as sharp as ever on twitter. I dont mean sharp as in intelligence i mean at attacking the dems and producing insights about them which stick. Its VERY worrying that starting rumours like this appears to be all the dems have.

It makes sense.
Something is wrong with him.

He’s very low energy the last few weeks.
He nearly fell over a few days ago.

fr336 · 01-09-2020 8:41pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Have you proof that its Trump sending those tweets? Also hasn't Trump and his zealots been spreading rumours about Bidens health for months now?

Id be surprised if anyone could immitate trump on twitter - demented to say the least.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:41pm

fr336 wrote:

The problem is most of us here want the dems to win, and their strategy sucks. Trump is president so his strategy is working.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, it will be fascinating to watch though

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:42pm

Cody montana wrote:

Heâ€™s very low energy the last few weeks. He nearly fell over a few days ago.

That campaign would knock the healthest

fr336 · 01-09-2020 8:42pm

Cody montana wrote: »

It makes sense.
Something is wrong with him.

He’s very low energy the last few weeks.
He nearly fell over a few days ago.

That could be any number of things. Having too much ear wax can make you off balance. Remember the trump fanboys wetting themselves thinking hillary had parkinsons?

fr336 · 01-09-2020 8:44pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure about that, it will be fascinating to watch though

Well i could be totally wrong and hope i am wanderer, but ive seen what happened in 16 and it seems the same mistakes are being made again but even moreso. At least hillary wanted to be president, do we get the same feeling off joe?

Pa ElGrande · 01-09-2020 8:45pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Possible alright, he also could be extremely stressed

Considering his age he has being forced to move at a faster pace this year and this has shown at times during the year. I reckon the most likely way he will go is a heart attack sometime into his second term and just considering his age, profile and work rate. Remember this is a president who puts out tweets at 1AM and 5 AM.

https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/1274572991016378368

US president is quite a demanding role, do US voters see Mr. Biden as being up to that pace? Hillary Clinton was not up to the demands of the 2016 campaign trail and it affected her health at the time, you can see why then need to keep Mr. Biden well rested.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1300588719947350016

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:48pm

fr336 wrote:

Well i could be totally wrong and hope i am wanderer, but ive seen what happened in 16 and it seems the same mistakes are being made again but even moreso. At least hillary wanted to be president, do we get the same feeling off joe?

Oh Biden and the dems are dreadful, but I think he ll just about get it, but I think it ll be extremely close, if he does, I think he may only have minimal effect, but better than the other fella, it ll take a miracle to stick that country back together

joseywhales · 01-09-2020 8:49pm

What happens if both die before the end of the campaign?

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:51pm

Pa ElGrande wrote:

Considering his age he has being forced to move at a faster pace this year and this has shown at times during the year. I reckon the most likely way he will go is a heart attack sometime into his second term and just considering his age, profile and work rate. Remember this is a president who puts out tweets at 1AM and 5 AM.

Can't see him getting the second, tis common that cluster b's require little sleep, they're well wired for it, but the heart attack is plausible, he's very unhealthy

gmisk · 01-09-2020 8:51pm

I really think it will be incredibly close...I think a lot of people won't admit to voting for Trump even to pollsters.

Spanish Eyes · 01-09-2020 8:54pm

Three or so months to go.

I dunno. I think the Dems fkd up by not having a younger person as candidate if they wanted to. There was a guy O'Rourke I think, but anyone below the age of 70 was dismissed fortwith.

I think they are relying on the VP elect (if it happens). But haven't heard a word out of her mouth for a week.

Total shtstorm and I am no expert, but this is not going to go the Dems way IMV. Much as they think it might.

The RePS have it sown now. And thank god I didn't hit the button on going to Washington and Texas this year. Whew. And I won't go again as long as the REPs are in the seat.

Just me. I suppose they are all the same, but hopefully someone will emerge on the Dem side who has a brain and doesn't use Twitter.

Galwayguy35 · 01-09-2020 8:54pm

Both Trump and Biden are coffin dodgers and normally neither would be ideal but I reckon Trump will shade it and be re elected.

So Melania will have to hold hands and fake a smile at Donny for a few more years.

No big deal to us over here anyway, the left nearly wet themselves when Obama was elected and he made was it just one visit in the eight years he was in office.

Trump has created bit of employment in the country with his hotel.

MFPM · 01-09-2020 8:56pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Both Trump and Biden are coffin dodgers and normally neither would be ideal but I reckon Trump will shade it and be re elected.

So Melania will have to hold hands and fake a smile at Donny for a few more years.

No big deal to us over here anyway, the left nearly wet themselves when Obama was elected and he made was it just one visit in the eight years he was in office.

Trump has created bit of employment in the country with his hotel.

Which 'left' was this now?

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 8:57pm

Galwayguy35 wrote:

No big deal to us over here anyway, the left nearly wet themselves when Obama was elected and he made was it just one visit in the eight years he was in office.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, America potentially could be on the cusp of a civil war, if they go down, we all go down!

Spanish Eyes · 01-09-2020 8:57pm

Ivanka is the one to watch. imv

Cody montana · 01-09-2020 8:59pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Both Trump and Biden are coffin dodgers and normally neither would be ideal but I reckon Trump will shade it and be re elected.

So Melania will have to hold hands and fake a smile at Donny for a few more years.

No big deal to us over here anyway, the left nearly wet themselves when Obama was elected and he made was it just one visit in the eight years he was in office.

Trump has created bit of employment in the country with his hotel.

He’s trying to remove thousands of pharmaceutical jobs.

buried · 01-09-2020 8:59pm

Wanderer78 wrote: »

I wouldn't be so sure about that, America potentially could be on the cusp of a civil war, if they go down, we all go down!

We produce more food here on this island to feed ourselves 15 times over, we'll be grand.

fr336 · 01-09-2020 9:00pm

buried wrote: »

We produce more food here on this island to feed ourselves 15 times over, we'll be grand.

Until the brits run out

gmisk · 01-09-2020 9:01pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Three or so months to go.

I dunno. I think the Dems fkd up by not having a younger person as candidate if they wanted to. There was a guy O'Rourke I think, but anyone below the age of 70 was dismissed fortwith.

I think they are relying on the VP elect (if it happens). But haven't heard a word out of her mouth for a week.

Total shtstorm and I am no expert, but this is not going to go the Dems way IMV. Much as they think it might.

The RePS have it sown now. And thank god I didn't hit the button on going to Washington and Texas this year. Whew. And I won't go again as long as the REPs are in the seat.

Just me. I suppose they are all the same, but hopefully someone will emerge on the Dem side who has a brain and doesn't use Twitter.

Beto o rourke?
He was never seriously in the running.

Pete Buttigieg did surprisingly well I think he is only 38, intelligent and a war vet but I am not sure middle America will vote for a gay president just yet even though he is a christian.

Laois_Man · 01-09-2020 9:01pm

Biden has 5 things going for him that the Dems didnt have in 2016

1. His name is not Clinton

2. He's not female - I say that not because it's a deal breaker for me, but because it's a deal breaker for American misogynists of which there are very many. Even so many women who were dying to vote for a female candidate all their lives couldnt vote for HRC - It was bizzare that Clinton didnt increase the female vote above what Obama achieved in both 2008 and 2012

3. He's not up against someone who can act like the outsider who's gonna shake up Washington

4. Coronavirus - Likely to become worse in the coming weeks

5. He already has 176 electoral college votes absolutely guaranteed. Trump only has 71 guaranteed. Biden only needs 94 more and he has far more in the "Likely" and "Leans" catagory also

On the other hand, #5 above above is based on polls and pollsters may not be that good at reaching the typical Trump voter. Trump is a master of attracting the very powerful fear vote. Sometimes it's bizarre to see him refer to the breakdown of law and order that he says would occur under a President Biden, while exactly that is occurring under President Trump. It's a risky strategy. But then he knows how to make a martyr out of the likes of Kyle Rittenhouse. He's good at tactics like picking the office of a particular state where rioting is happening and calling it a Dem controlled state - even if they only hold either the office of Governor or one of the two state legislative chambers - and if they don't hold any of the 3, he'll take it to the city Mayor level. And it's muffling out his performance on Coronavirus....with 1,000+ deaths most days over the last several weeks, it barely features on US news at the moment. He's good at this! Don't underestimate him

But I still think Biden will do it! But it won't be a landslide!

BattleCorp · 01-09-2020 9:02pm

buried wrote: »

We produce more food here on this island to feed ourselves 15 times over, we'll be grand.

Back to the plain old dinners of the 70's for us so.......... where salad cream was considered a delicacy.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 9:02pm

buried wrote:

We produce more food here on this island to feed ourselves 15 times over, we'll be grand.

What will we buy it with?

Eduard Khil · 01-09-2020 9:03pm

Biden is resorting to campaigning through Animal Crossing New Horizons on Nintendo Switch that's the most hipster esque tactic I've ever seen.

https://nintendoeverything.com/biden-campaign-creates-official-yard-signs-for-animal-crossing-new-horizons/

MFPM · 01-09-2020 9:03pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Ivanka is the one to watch. imv

She's definitely ambitious but she's not very bright (but that's not necessarily an obstacle as her father has proven). Maureen O'Dowd had a good article in the IT on Saturday about her performance at the convention.

When Trump loses, I think the Republicans will try to move on from him and his coterie...

I suspect Biden will serve two years or so and Harris will take over and be the incumbent in 2024.

buried · 01-09-2020 9:04pm

Biden isn't going to win. America within the last couple of decades have made it the norm to vote in the person who looks better/has been more visual on TV. Trump has been on TV for over 40 years. That's the winner, just like last time. That's how it works over in that kip.

Mr. Karate · 01-09-2020 9:05pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

He is not sending in troops and drones to kill them I'm sure they appreciate that whatever they may think of him

First President in 40 years to not start a new war. This is why the Democrats have no strategy or platform. They were sure he would start one [despite him running on ending them] so they could use the "We'll bring our soldiers home" card, but he took that away from them. They blew their collective loads on the phony investigations and impeachments, The riots have turned people against them. They have nothing to run on.

If the Democrats thought they had a chance they would have condemned and ended the riots months ago.

Wanderer78 · 01-09-2020 9:06pm

buried wrote:

Biden isn't going to win. America within the last couple of decades have made it the norm to vote in the person who looks better/has been more visual on TV. Trump has been on TV for over 40 years. That's the winner, just like last time. That's how it works over in that kip.

There's no certainties now, and the people have had enough, anything is possible now

buried · 01-09-2020 9:06pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

Back to the plain old dinners of the 70's for us so.......... where salad cream was considered a delicacy.

Sure why the f**k not? That's what I eat every day. Not doing me no harm. What am I going to miss? Starbucks tin can espresso's in the supermarket that cost 6 euros? Good.

Who thinks Trump will win?

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