Galway GAA Discussion Thread #2

Utopia Parkway · 17-03-2019 8:11pm

Daithi would be a fantastic addition for the footballers but hurling is his first love and doing both at the same time is just not possible at the very top level.

Some athlete though.

3 hurling All Star awards and man of the match in an All Ireland club football final.

Utopia Parkway · 17-03-2019 8:16pm

Hard luck to Tom's. Tough luck to lose Kenneth Burke before the final. Eanna Burke before throw in and Fintan Burke in the middle of the match itself. Difficult for a small club to lose talent like that and be able to replace them.

I'm not convinced David Burke is fully fit either. He didn't seem to be moving all that well today for a lad who usually glides over the turf.

blowitupref · 17-03-2019 8:32pm

seligehgit wrote: »

No it's got zilch to do with such a thinking.

Squad depth is a factor amongst some peoples thinking.

Success does breed success and I'd like them go for it irrespective of any concerns about hype around what exactly?

For many the national league in terms of silverware simply doesn't register in comparison to an as yet elusive All Ireland title.Whither one likes it or not in spite of much of the best football being played in it year on year it is very much the secondary national competition.

Winning same alone won't sate the appetite for the ultimate success.

Get what you are saying but it would be a shame for the likes of A Moran,K Higgins,C Boyle to miss out on national title/medal before they retire and with Dublin out of the league this is ideal opportunity to win that title.

cosatron · 17-03-2019 9:56pm

threeball wrote: »

Should we start the campaign for Kevin O Brien for Galway now or wait until the match is over.

This is exactly how we should play.

Be under no illusions that David Morris is responsible for corofin style of play. How his not in with Kevin Walsh is beyond me.

RMAOK · 17-03-2019 9:57pm

cosatron wrote: »

Be under no illusions that David Morris is responsible for corofin style of play. How his not in with Kevin Walsh is beyond me.

Is he involved (or was involved) with the galway hurlers?

cosatron · 17-03-2019 10:02pm

RMAOK wrote: »

Is he involved (or was involved) with the galway hurlers?

His stats with galway hurlers and coach with corofin. I think David burkes and conor cooneys legs are gone, I hope I'm wrong but they we very poor today

Robson99 · 17-03-2019 10:07pm

cosatron wrote: »

His stats with galway hurlers and coach with corofin. I think David burkes and conor cooneys legs are gone, I hope I'm wrong but they we very poor today

Neither have hurled well since the 17 final

cosatron · 17-03-2019 10:15pm

Robson99 wrote: »

Neither have hurled well since the 17 final

David has shown some flashes but can't last a whole game, I say conor will do well to make the 23

RMAOK · 17-03-2019 10:15pm

Robson99 wrote: »

Neither have hurled well since the 17 final

They could possibly do with a break. Cooney failed badly when Donohue decided to put Johnny Glynn at the edge of the square. Cooney wasn't suited to the corner - better at full.

David Burke shouldn't hurling for Galway until the championship imo. He needs to take a bit of a break. Between being captain (and all that entails) after the 2017 win, plus going All last year and the Thomas's campaign now, he could well do with a long break to recharge the batteries.

spurshero · 17-03-2019 10:20pm

Only heard there about eanna Burke . Wish him a speedy recovery . Just goes to show gaa is only a game . Was giving out earlier about tommies being poor but that preparation can’t have being easy .

threeball · 17-03-2019 10:25pm

cosatron wrote: »

Be under no illusions that David Morris is responsible for corofin style of play. How his not in with Kevin Walsh is beyond me.

Unfortunately even if he was he wouldn't be listened to. I saw an article on rte yesterday with KW doubling down on his style of play. We'll all have to wait til next year for this team to start realising it's potential.
He is with the Hurlers though.

threeball · 17-03-2019 10:27pm

cosatron wrote: »

His stats with galway hurlers and coach with corofin. I think David burkes and conor cooneys legs are gone, I hope I'm wrong but they we very poor today

I can see how father time might have caught up with David Burke but Conor Cooney is a mystery. Shot the lights out in 17. Potential hurler of the year. Couldn't put one foot in front of the other last year or this.

threeball · 17-03-2019 10:29pm

spurshero wrote: »

Only heard there about eanna Burke . Wish him a speedy recovery . Just goes to show gaa is only a game . Was giving out earlier about tommies being poor but that preparation can’t have being easy .

What happened him?

jr86 · 17-03-2019 11:41pm

Robson99 wrote: »

Neither have hurled well since the 17 final

Cooney had some great games for Thomas's in the Galway championship last year

Wasn't great today or with the county last year, but I still think he has potentially plenty to offer

David Burke looked to be carrying an injury today, was slow and ponderous throughout

Shane Cooney will be looked at in Leinster surely

jr86 · 17-03-2019 11:48pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Hard luck to Tom's. Tough luck to lose Kenneth Burke before the final. Eanna Burke before throw in and Fintan Burke in the middle of the match itself. Difficult for a small club to lose talent like that and be able to replace them.

I'm not convinced David Burke is fully fit either. He didn't seem to be moving all that well today for a lad who usually glides over the turf.

Actually was just chatting to someone who'd be big into the hurling in Galway but he reckoned David Burke has done very little since the semi where he picked up a knock. Would explain a lot tbh

Kenneth was also a huge loss as well

They had two county minor all Ireland winners last year who are free to join the squad now for 2019 so that should help with depth.

But they really can't do without many given their playing pool.

Anyone know where goalkeeper Patrick skehill has been all year?

spurshero · 18-03-2019 1:01am

threeball wrote: »

What happened him?

Pm

spurshero · 18-03-2019 1:03am

Whispers going round of Fintan Burke cruciate . Will be some blow to himself Galway and Thomas’s if true

Frozen Veg · 18-03-2019 2:28am

Well done Corofin, absolute class.

Frozen Veg · 18-03-2019 2:31am

Unfortunately Thomas' lads lost sight of what it takes. When you see must of the team in 'recovery chambers' few days before of a game, you know they've lost the run of themselves.

Utopia Parkway · 18-03-2019 4:24am

spurshero wrote: »

Whispers going round of Fintan Burke cruciate . Will be some blow to himself Galway and Thomas’s if true

Looked serious straight away. I'm still mad they stuck bandages on his knee and put him back out there.

Was destined to be a big player for Galway this year.

conor05 · 18-03-2019 9:09am

spurshero wrote: »

Pm

Could you pm me also?

Eanna seems a gent

jr86 · 18-03-2019 9:34am

Frozen Veg wrote: »

Unfortunately Thomas' lads lost sight of what it takes. When you see must of the team in 'recovery chambers' few days before of a game, you know they've lost the run of themselves.

Personally don't think there's any need for such comments "lost the run of themselves" "lost sight of what it takes". Very easy to take unfounded digs behind a keyboard

They were always going to be hugely up against it. Their talisman got a horror injury in the semi, it only emerged yesterday to many that one of their county players would be missing and why, and no doubt this would have truly affected their build up.

This is completely once in a lifetime stuff for them. They do trojan work in the area to simply field teams at underage. When Kenneth burke first started they were a middle of the road intermediate side. No-one in the club would ever dream they could actually make senior all Ireland finals

They took a hiding yesterday and are no doubt feeling terrible, criticising the performance is one thing, but criticising their attitude in the build up is out of order when frankly unless you're in the squad/ management team youve no idea.

Just my 2c - zero connection to the club

Curly head · 18-03-2019 9:45am

Very well said. They let nobody down n should be proud of themselves.

Dickie9 · 18-03-2019 12:29pm

conor05 wrote: »

Could you pm me also?

Eanna seems a gent

U might also pm me thanks

spurshero · 18-03-2019 12:49pm

Frozen Veg wrote: »

Unfortunately Thomas' lads lost sight of what it takes. When you see must of the team in 'recovery chambers' few days before of a game, you know they've lost the run of themselves.

They owe nothing to Galway hurling . Win an all Ireland few years ago And there will be nobody more disappointed with yesterday then themselves . They had a tough build up and they don’t deserved to be kicked when there down

jr86 · 18-03-2019 1:13pm

spurshero wrote: »

They owe nothing to Galway hurling . Win an all Ireland few years ago And there will be nobody more disappointed with yesterday then themselves . They had a tough build up and they don’t deserved to be kicked when there down

Hear hear

These things happen. Even this great Corofin team were outclassed two years ago in the semi final, by - guess who - Dr Crokes. Every team has its bad days on the field but it doesn't make them a bad side overall

I've no doubt there's still more county titles in Thomas's and who knows where that will take them. They could have more rattles at another all Ireland yet

In a way it's no bad thing (injuries aside) the Galway championship is back so soon. I'm sure they're all keen to put yesterday behind them and get out hurling again

RMAOK · 18-03-2019 1:31pm

spurshero wrote: »

Pm

Would you mind sending me a pm about that as well please?

MfMan · 18-03-2019 4:05pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

Looked serious straight away. I'm still mad they stuck bandages on his knee and put him back out there.

Was destined to be a big player for Galway this year.

I'd say it might have been his own call to continue on; I really doubt they'd ask him to play on without he himself indicating that he would try. Really hope it's nothing more serious than a strained hamstring.

jr86 · 18-03-2019 4:42pm

MfMan wrote: »

I'd say it might have been his own call to continue on; I really doubt they'd ask him to play on without he himself indicating that he would try. Really hope it's nothing more serious than a strained hamstring.

Yeah sub had jacket off and was ready to go on so definitely not management's call to keep him on I'd say

Hopefully nothing serious, I recall he missed county semi with concussion, bad run of luck for a young lad

Ashleigh1986 · 18-03-2019 5:02pm

What a football performance from corofin .
The high skill level was a joy to watch .
The movement from the corofin players was unbelievable .
They obviously are an extremely well coached team.
That's the good part ....NOW
WHAT THE HELL ARE GALWAY FOOTBALL MANGEMENT AT ???
Galway football supporters would rather galway lost playing the corofin brand of football than the rubbish they are constantly been fed every time they play .
What galway needs is proper COACHING ...it's obvious the talent is there but yesterday proved THE RIGHT MAN ISNT IN CHARGE !!!!

crusier · 18-03-2019 5:28pm

Ashleigh1986 wrote:

What a football performance from corofin . The high skill level was a joy to watch . The movement from the corofin players was unbelievable . They obviously are an extremely well coached team. That's the good part ....NOW WHAT THE HELL ARE GALWAY FOOTBALL MANGEMENT AT ??? Galway football supporters would rather galway lost playing the corofin brand of football than the rubbish they are constantly been fed every time they play . What galway needs is proper COACHING ...it's obvious the talent is there but yesterday proved THE RIGHT MAN ISNT IN CHARGE !!!!

Corofin are a club playing club teams. Horses for courses etc

Happyilylost · 18-03-2019 5:38pm

Ashleigh1986 wrote:

What a football performance from corofin . The high skill level was a joy to watch . The movement from the corofin players was unbelievable . They obviously are an extremely well coached team. That's the good part ....NOW WHAT THE HELL ARE GALWAY FOOTBALL MANGEMENT AT ??? Galway football supporters would rather galway lost playing the corofin brand of football than the rubbish they are constantly been fed every time they play . What galway needs is proper COACHING ...it's obvious the talent is there but yesterday proved THE RIGHT MAN ISNT IN CHARGE !!!!

I'd rather win. But thanks for speaking for all Galway fans. If you want moral victories speak to our near neighbours.

Ashleigh1986 · 18-03-2019 5:42pm

What's that got to do with playing a style of football !!!
A blind man could see the 3 or 4 corofin players that would /should walk onto the present day galway football team .
It's obvious
A former great player for a county/ doesn't mean that person is or can can make a good coach .
Nothing to do with HORSES FOR COURSES !!

wirelessdude01 · 18-03-2019 5:43pm

conor05 wrote:

Could you pm me also?

Could someone pm me the story as well?

spurshero · 18-03-2019 6:11pm

Galway scores 1 17 in poor conditions sat . They have played a bit more open in there last 2 games . They have a chance of getting to a league final if they beat Tyrone . They have been missing so many players during league that most on here were just hoping to avoid relegation . I’m not sure what people want . I personally think when they get all players back we could be thereabouts in summer . Dublin would be hot favs to beat us but after that we have as good as chance as anybody imo . To me at this stage people seem to be knocking Galway as it seems to be the In thing to do cause idiots like Brolly etc are saying it

threeball · 18-03-2019 6:43pm

spurshero wrote: »

Galway scores 1 17 in poor conditions sat . They have played a bit more open in there last 2 games . They have a chance of getting to a league final if they beat Tyrone . They have been missing so many players during league that most on here were just hoping to avoid relegation . I’m not sure what people want . I personally think when they get all players back we could be thereabouts in summer . Dublin would be hot favs to beat us but after that we have as good as chance as anybody imo . To me at this stage people seem to be knocking Galway as it seems to be the In thing to do cause idiots like Brolly etc are saying it

I think the main issue people have with the way we currently play is not so much the way we defend but the way we attack. It's too laborious. Tyrone attacked Dublin at pace the other night and won. Mayo attacked them at pace and just fell short in 2 all Irelands, Kerry attacked them at pace and beat them in a fiercely contested league game.
Personally I think we have much better players than either Tyrone or Mayo and we're better balanced than Kerry who have the majority of their talent in the front 6. A small change of approach would yield huge benefits.

No one wants to ditch the defensive side as defence wins championships but we must transition with greater urgency. We already have the players in the panel to do this and are about to add Wall, Molloy and Silke. We saw what pace of transition looked like yesterday and what can yield. Long kick passes were the preferred method of moving the ball. There was always a runner off the shoulder. They only moved across the 45 to change the angle of attack and it was rare. There's no reason we couldn't do the same. Theoretically the players available to Walsh are superior to those available to Corofin.

spurshero · 18-03-2019 7:04pm

threeball wrote: »

I think the main issue people have with the way we currently play is not so much the way we defend but the way we attack. It's too laborious. Tyrone attacked Dublin at pace the other night and won. Mayo attacked them at pace and just fell short in 2 all Irelands, Kerry attacked them at pace and beat them in a fiercely contested league game.
Personally I think we have much better players than either Tyrone or Mayo and we're better balanced than Kerry who have the majority of their talent in the front 6. A small change of approach would yield huge benefits.

No one wants to ditch the defensive side as defence wins championships but we must transition with greater urgency. We already have the players in the panel to do this and are about to add Wall, Molloy and Silke. We saw what pace of transition looked like yesterday and what can yield. Long kick passes were the preferred method of moving the ball. There was always a runner off the shoulder. They only moved across the 45 to change the angle of attack and it was rare. There's no reason we couldn't do the same. Theoretically the players available to Walsh are superior to those available to Corofin.

I would agree with a lot of that In fairness. But I’m hoping that we’re building for a big summer . As I said earlier I think in last 2 games we have used ball and being a bit more direct and I’m hoping we will continue to be more direct . The players available to Walsh would be stronger overall to those available to corofin but they would also be playing stronger opposition in fairness . Anyway we will see how it goes in Tyrone and go from there .

Utopia Parkway · 18-03-2019 7:30pm

spurshero wrote: »

Whispers going round of Fintan Burke cruciate . Will be some blow to himself Galway and Thomas’s if true

Was my first thought when it happened unfortunately.

Robert2014 · 19-03-2019 1:44pm

Congratulations to Corofin and hard luck to Thomas's. Hopefully some of the Corofin lads can go on and be integrated into the senior county team. Having some members of the squad that go up to Croke park expecting to win can't help!

In particular I hope Silke, Molloy and Wall can be brought in to support the weakest part of our team. It's great to have Division 1 status confirmed and a potential final place with one game to go. It will be hard in Omagh but with away wins in Monaghan and Mayo we should be optimistic.

TCDStudent1 · 19-03-2019 5:39pm

Robert2014 wrote: »

Congratulations to Corofin and hard luck to Thomas's. Hopefully some of the Corofin lads can go on and be integrated into the senior county team. Having some members of the squad that go up to Croke park expecting to win can't help!

In particular I hope Silke, Molloy and Wall can be brought in to support the weakest part of our team. It's great to have Division 1 status confirmed and a potential final place with one game to go. It will be hard in Omagh but with away wins in Monaghan and Mayo we should be optimistic.

I suspect Silke may be the only one of them who starts for Galway this year. And it could be at number 4.

TCDStudent1 · 19-03-2019 5:47pm

jr86 wrote: »

I see they've fixed hurling matches now Monday. I'd imagine most will be postponed to week after though

A lot of those Saturday football matches did not get ahead (assume because of weather). However, I see they are now re-fixed for 12 / 1230 on Sunday which means anybody atteneding them cant go to Omagh! I'd have thought that putting them on Saturday would make more sense. There are a load of minor football matches fixed for Sunday as well while not many football fixtures on the Saturday! Maybe I am missing something but this does not seem too logical to me.

threeball · 19-03-2019 7:52pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I suspect Silke may be the only one of them who starts for Galway this year. And it could be at number 4.

I fear you're right because Walsh is safety first and not interested in players bombing up the wing for fear of risking a turnover

grbear · 20-03-2019 2:09pm

Walsh does seem to put a lot of faith in how a player is going in training/current form. Just look at the disbelief in here last year about Thomas Flynn being picked to start against Mayo. At least I think it was Thomas Flynn, there was definitely eyebrows raised anyway.

There aren't many players you could argue are nailed on to start between 5 and 12 if Walsh has a full panel come summertime. Heaney and Flynn I'd say. Beyond that every position comes with a "but what about so and so" attached.

BENDYBINN · 20-03-2019 2:29pm

grbear wrote: »

Walsh does seem to put a lot of faith in how a player is going in training/current form. Just look at the disbelief in here last year about Thomas Flynn being picked to start against Mayo. At least I think it was Thomas Flynn, there was definitely eyebrows raised anyway.

There aren't many players you could argue are nailed on to start between 5 and 12 if Walsh has a full panel come summertime. Heaney and Flynn I'd say. Beyond that every position comes with a "but what about so and so" attached.

Great way to have it

Hulk Hands · 20-03-2019 11:09pm

grbear wrote: »

Walsh does seem to put a lot of faith in how a player is going in training/current form. Just look at the disbelief in here last year about Thomas Flynn being picked to start against Mayo. At least I think it was Thomas Flynn, there was definitely eyebrows raised anyway.

There aren't many players you could argue are nailed on to start between 5 and 12 if Walsh has a full panel come summertime. Heaney and Flynn I'd say. Beyond that every position comes with a "but what about so and so" attached.

Absolutely. I had heard Flynn was flying in training prior to that game but it was still a huge surprise to see him start after the league. Good way to be. Funnily enough I'd say Heaneys position, and wing back as a whole, will be one of the hardest to obtain. He generally plays 3 in midfield in championship so out of maybe 3 wing backs / working half forward, you've Molloy, Wall, Kelly, Heaney, McDaid, O'Donnell, Bradshaw (if he goes Daly at CB), Silke (if he sees him as a half back over cb), Brannigan. We were probably light in that area in previous years so nice to have options and go with form players

threeball · 21-03-2019 12:11am

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Absolutely. I had heard Flynn was flying in training prior to that game but it was still a huge surprise to see him start after the league. Good way to be. Funnily enough I'd say Heaneys position, and wing back as a whole, will be one of the hardest to obtain. He generally plays 3 in midfield in championship so out of maybe 3 wing backs / working half forward, you've Molloy, Wall, Kelly, Heaney, McDaid, O'Donnell, Bradshaw (if he goes Daly at CB), Silke (if he sees him as a half back over cb), Brannigan. We were probably light in that area in previous years so nice to have options and go with form players

I'd worry about Daly physically for the CB position. You need a physically imposing player to stop strong running teams barging through you up the centre. Its too late now but I'd still prefer Kyne or even Duane in that position.

TCDStudent1 · 21-03-2019 11:15am

threeball wrote: »

I'd worry about Daly physically for the CB position. You need a physically imposing player to stop strong running teams barging through you up the centre. Its too late now but I'd still prefer Kyne or even Duane in that position.

Maybe you will be proven right in time. However, from what I have seen of him so far at 6, I would give him a shot there. I'd certainly start him there v Tyrone. Duane had a lot of chances at 6 in the past (admittedly not recently) and failed to claim that position. I suspect that the next location for Kyne is on the bench rather than the pivotal no. 6 role!

jr86 · 21-03-2019 11:29am

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

I suspect that the next location for Kyne is on the bench rather than the pivotal no. 6 role!

I think he'll have his work cut out to start this year. I heard both Silkes have been called in aswell.

TCDStudent1 · 21-03-2019 11:53am

jr86 wrote: »

I think he'll have his work cut out to start this year. I heard both Silkes have been called in aswell.

Surprised Cathal Silke is in there. He was in there before but I am not sure he made an impact to even make the bench that year.

threeball · 21-03-2019 8:41pm

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

Maybe you will be proven right in time. However, from what I have seen of him so far at 6, I would give him a shot there. I'd certainly start him there v Tyrone. Duane had a lot of chances at 6 in the past (admittedly not recently) and failed to claim that position. I suspect that the next location for Kyne is on the bench rather than the pivotal no. 6 role!

I'm not suggesting he should be switched out now, he hasn't done anything that would justify that but I would wonder if it might quickly become a problem. The Tyrone game should give an indicator. If we're up for it we could see a game not a million miles off championship pace.

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