Harvey Weinstein scandal (Mod warning in op.)

RabbleRouser2k · 21-12-2017 2:41am

Anthony Edwards' abuser, Gary Goddard, has had more people come forward to accuse him.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/gary-goddard-accused-molestation-child-actors-1202646170/

Sylvester Stallone has/is filing a lawsuit against his accuser, accusing her of lying.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/12/20/sylvester-stallone-false-police-report-filed-by-rape-accuser/

Underground · 21-12-2017 3:55pm

I don't really like Dalias85's account of her encounter with TJ Miller tbh. Neither herself nor the barman were totally sure that he had messed with her drink, yet the story is just put out there as fact anyway. That's not to say he didn't do it, it's quite likely he did, but for me it's another case of trial by social media.

Out of morbid curiosity I had a quick scroll through her twitter feed. To my complete lack of surprise, it was awash with anti-male, anti-trump rhetoric. What took the biscuit though was that she likes the new Eminem album, which everyone knows is trash.

Venom · 21-12-2017 5:18pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Apparently it was the reason he was kicked out of college. (His dad is a lawyer, so that helped prevent a 'scandal').
And pretty much everyone knew TJ as 'that guy who raped a chick in college'.

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/12/make-them-leave.html

There are allegations of harassment on other projects too.

https://www.thewrap.com/tj-miller-accused-of-harassment-by-porn-star/

Even an alleged case of roofieing.

https://twitter.com/dalias85/status/943182637765599232

Seems everyone has a 'story' about the guy's douchebaggery.

For the record I'm not a fan of Miller. He plays the same character in everything which bores the crap out of me.

Saying that, the pornstar's allegations seem like utter BS.

"DeArmond declined to elaborate further on Miller’s alleged harassment when pressed by a Twitter user identifying himself as a reporter, replying, “I don’t really have anything to add. It was a long time ago.”

Has it gotten to a stage where you don't even have to say what someone is alleged to have done now!

RabbleRouser2k · 21-12-2017 8:25pm

Venom wrote: »

For the record I'm not a fan of Miller. He plays the same character in everything which bores the crap out of me.

Saying that, the pornstar's allegations seem like utter BS.

"DeArmond declined to elaborate further on Miller’s alleged harassment when pressed by a Twitter user identifying himself as a reporter, replying, “I don’t really have anything to add. It was a long time ago.”

Has it gotten to a stage where you don't even have to say what someone is alleged to have done now!

The Vogt Roberts allegation was the one that bothered me the most-to me it was a kiss goodnight, safe journey, between friends.
To her it was harassment. It's why I always feel pornstars are...(and I hate to use this phrase) 'damaged'. No sane person gets into that 'field'.

A fifth woman has accused Danny Masterson of rape. Starting to sound like scientology did an awful lot to cover up his crap. I have to wonder if Ashton Kutcher or his other 'That 70s Show' castmates knew. It would explain why Topher Grace was never one to hang out with them after the show ended, or even during it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5201017/Danny-Mastersons-ex-girlfriend-accuses-raping-her.html

Don't normally agree with Piers Morgan, but his assessment of Meryl Streep (and Weinstein, obviously) is bang on.

VILLAIN: Meryl Streep. It’s been a terrible year for the self-styled Queen of Hollywood. Moralising Meryl’s repeated political grandstanding, particularly against Trump, has come back to bite her hard since the downfall of her great friend and mentor Weinstein. She insists she knew nothing about Harvey’s predatory side, but nobody believes her, which is why there are now posters all over LA with their photo and the words ‘SHE KNEW’ emblazoned across them. One thing Meryl most definitely DOES know is that Roman Polanski is a fugitive child rapist -yet she gave him a standing ovation and has never denounced him.

VILLAIN: Harvey Weinstein. He was the first big Hollywood name to go down in flames from the sexual harassment scandal, and symbolises the age-old sex-for-jobs casting couch mentality that still prevails in a town which so loves to preach morality to the world. Harvey abused his power to make and break dozens of actresses who dreamed of movie stardom. His downfall has triggered a long overdue correction in the chronic gender inequality that still pervades in almost every workplace.
In cinematic language that even Harvey may understand: women are as mad hell and they’re not going to take it any more.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5202249/PIERS-MORGAN-heroes-villains-2017.html

RabbleRouser2k · 23-12-2017 6:54pm

http://thenerdstash.com/max-landis-sexual-assault/

The writer of Will Smith's new flop, Bright, has been accused of sexual harassment and other misconduct. By and actress who worked on one of his projects.

His show, Dirk Gently, was cancelled about a week before these allegations emerged. Seems like someone was warned before hand.

Interestingly, the actors and actresses on his show have gone quiet on twitter.

JP Liz V1 · 23-12-2017 11:12pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

http://thenerdstash.com/max-landis-sexual-assault/

The writer of Will Smith's new flop, Bright, has been accused of sexual harassment and other misconduct. By and actress who worked on one of his projects.

His show, Dirk Gently, was cancelled about a week before these allegations emerged. Seems like someone was warned before hand.

Interestingly, the actors and actresses on his show have gone quiet on twitter.

John Landis son :eek: wow did not know that

RabbleRouser2k · 26-12-2017 9:22pm

http://www.tvovermind.com/entertainment-news/bright-screenwriter-max-landis-accused-sexual-assault

Intriguing defense of Landis, and critique of the metoo movement. I don't agree or disagree with this, but I found it interesting.

26-12-2017 9:30pm

3 things I've learned from this thread...

1. Anytime I see it bumped, I open it to see who is the latest person accused

2. John Landis' son has one awful hairstyle

3. RabbleRouser knows more about Hollywood than anyone I've ever met, and is particularly useful in this thread as he can raise slants that the media itself miss, I've rarely seen a poster contribute so much bang on topic...

RabbleRouser2k · 30-12-2017 3:50am

Deleted User wrote: »

3 things I've learned from this thread...

1. Anytime I see it bumped, I open it to see who is the latest person accused

2. John Landis' son has one awful hairstyle

He also wrote Chronicle-he's a hipster. But he's far from the biggest Hollywood jerk on twitter. (also, no longer has that hairstyle).

Personally, I think that 'honor' goes to Lexi Alexander, aka the director of 'Punisher War Zone'. If you don't tow the line/ agree with her, she blocks you, and then threatens you after blocking you (makes it harder to report her). One ,such twitter poster/ podcaster went on to discuss this. Alexander, a few years ago, told this podcaster not to interview Landis, as an actress had spoken of being assaulted by him, to her (no name given, just the usual 'believe me, not the man'). When the podcaster asked for more information, as in define 'assault' she said 'I hope you get raped by *director's name, who neither party will discuss*' then blocked her.
Alexander does that often-she'll even block white Hollywood people on twitter, precisely because they were successful-no other reason. Then spouts 'white privilege' or 'a weak man is scared of a strong woman'...when no, they aren't, you just blocked them. I'd imagine she even blocked the first accuser mentioned in the article, Anna Akana. (She already told her to eff off).

What's more disturbing is less than a year ago, allegations were made against Toby Turner, aka Tobuscus, a youtuber who Akana also made allegations against (He didn't assault her,but someone they knew claimed he did, even proceeded to write a tumblr post about it). She roped Max Landis into making a video discussing Turner (Landis went on to say that while he couldn't condemn Turner's behaviour, because he himself had treated women like crap, he found Turner to be somewhat troubled, and a guy he didn't want to associate with (you can find the video on youtube). Both do drugs (obvs) but Landis isn't the kind of guy who'll be like 'Take this pill, do it!' whilst Turner was. And he didn't want to be in that scene. I imagine Akana was ticked off, to say the least, that he didn't condemn him as a 'rapey mcrapist'. It was based on one allegation against Turner, and while he went quiet for a while, he returned. No others made a similar allegation, though the guy does come across as a dirtbag. But being a dirtbag isn't a crime, no matter how much they wish it was).

3. RabbleRouser knows more about Hollywood than anyone I've ever met, and is particularly useful in this thread as he can raise slants that the media itself miss, I've rarely seen a poster contribute so much bang on topic...

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I am very honored to have those kind words said about me, I appreciate it very much. I just like to take notice and read more indepth than writers care to mention. I also have no life.

Speaking of which-this kinda craziness was bound to happen. Didn't anyone learn from the debacle of the 'Women only' Wonder Woman screening?

In short-comedienne banned men from her comedy shows, is now facing a legal action because of it. Article below proceeds to mock the person, despite it actually being a genuine legal issue.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/iliza-shlesingers-girls-show-sparks-lawsuit-war-men-1070492

Biggest lickspittle on boardz · 02-01-2018 11:14am

MORE THAN 300 top women in Hollywood from Meryl Streep and Jennifer Lawrence to Emma Thompson and Cate Blanchett, unveiled an initiative to tackle pervasive sexual harassment in workplaces, calling special attention to their “sisters” in less than glamorous blue-collar jobs.

The initiative, dubbed Time’s Up, caps a year in which the Harvey Weinstein sexual misconduct scandal touched off a deluge of allegations that brought down powerful men in entertainment, politics and the media, prompting companies, government agencies and even the US federal court system to reexamine harassment policies.

But in an open letter printed in The New York Times, the new initiative lends the star power of its A-list members to the cause of women in less prominent fields, urging support and respect for farmworkers and others whose humble positions leave them vulnerable and voiceless.

https://www.thejournal.ie/sexual-harassment-dear-sisters-weinstein-3776865-Jan2018/

Hmmm. A genuine attempt to highlight sexual harassment in 'blue collar' jobs, or a cynical attempt to distract from the rotten core of Hollywood, and at the same time rebuilt their damaged images as saviours of the sisterhood?

This is so cute, celebrities pretending to care about the little people.

To paraphrase Sally Field: "We like you. We really, really like you!"

Christy42 · 02-01-2018 1:56pm

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

MORE THAN 300 top women in Hollywood from Meryl Streep and Jennifer Lawrence to Emma Thompson and Cate Blanchett, unveiled an initiative to tackle pervasive sexual harassment in workplaces, calling special attention to their “sisters” in less than glamorous blue-collar jobs.

The initiative, dubbed Time’s Up, caps a year in which the Harvey Weinstein sexual misconduct scandal touched off a deluge of allegations that brought down powerful men in entertainment, politics and the media, prompting companies, government agencies and even the US federal court system to reexamine harassment policies.

But in an open letter printed in The New York Times, the new initiative lends the star power of its A-list members to the cause of women in less prominent fields, urging support and respect for farmworkers and others whose humble positions leave them vulnerable and voiceless.

https://www.thejournal.ie/sexual-harassment-dear-sisters-weinstein-3776865-Jan2018/

Hmmm. A genuine attempt to highlight sexual harassment in 'blue collar' jobs, or a cynical attempt to distract from the rotten core of Hollywood, and at the same time rebuilt their damaged images as saviours of the sisterhood?

This is so cute, celebrities pretending to care about the little people.

To paraphrase Sally Field: "We like you. We really, really like you!"

Why are so obsessed with hating these people? Really they are not the ones who have come off the most damaged from all the revealed sexual assaults. But hey let's assume the worst about these people who have not done anything that bad right?

I mean it was a lot of these people who complaining about the rotten core of Hollywood so it seems unlikely they want to distract from it.

Vojera · 02-01-2018 5:59pm

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

Hmmm. A genuine attempt to highlight sexual harassment in 'blue collar' jobs, or a cynical attempt to distract from the rotten core of Hollywood, and at the same time rebuilt their damaged images as saviours of the sisterhood?

It might be a cynical PR stunt, but it's not wrong that we should remember the ordinary men and women who put up with sexual harassment in the workplace.

This New York Times article on women working for Ford is good. Those who managed to come forward were blamed for people being reprimanded. Some have said that if they'd known what they'd have to put up with for reporting, they'd have kept their mouths shut. It shows a real toxic environment.

I'd like to think that in Ireland things wouldn't be as bad or as endemic because we have much stronger protection for employees, but what do I know? I'm lucky enough to work in a company where these things don't happen. I'm sure others aren't so lucky.

RabbleRouser2k · 02-01-2018 9:29pm

Biggest lickspittle on boardz wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/sexual-harassment-dear-sisters-weinstein-3776865-Jan2018/

Hmmm. A genuine attempt to highlight sexual harassment in 'blue collar' jobs, or a cynical attempt to distract from the rotten core of Hollywood, and at the same time rebuilt their damaged images as saviours of the sisterhood?

This is so cute, celebrities pretending to care about the little people.

To paraphrase Sally Field: "We like you. We really, really like you!"

This does seem cynical, in that these ladies will still defend woody Allen or Polanski, with no care for their victims. All because they chase a trophy.
And the 'she knew' thing still rings in my mind.

I'm not buying this. Sorry if thats the cynic in me.

02-01-2018 9:54pm

I don't really care what their motivation is. They get suspicion if they do something, condemnation if they do nothing, so on balance I'd rather they did something.

Even if it's a calculated, cynical move motivated by poor public perception in the wake of Polanski or Weinstein or whoever, if it improves conditions for the relatively powerless women who have no power or clout or recognizable names, then I'm all for it.

Sure it'd be lovely to think everyone acted out of selfless altruism, but I don't care that much if it garners results that make it a safer industry for women behind the scenes.

JP Liz V1 · 02-01-2018 11:41pm

Rose McGowan will star in a new five part documentary series titled Citizen Rose on E

RabbleRouser2k · 03-01-2018 12:30am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Rose McGowan will star in a new five part documentary series titled Citizen Rose on E

Thats not a good idea...not while she's under investigation for drugs. And her mental state rn is worrying.

Rjd2 · 03-01-2018 5:23pm

Paul Sovrino whose daughter was blacklisted speaks.:)

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/948567605765427201

Outlaw Pete · 03-01-2018 5:41pm

In the fucking oven head first!

RabbleRouser2k · 03-01-2018 8:52pm

http:// https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/movies/meryl-streep-tom-hanks-the-post-metoo.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Meryls deflection is actually embarassing now.

http:// https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/948592818897018880?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E3

I don't care what Melania says, she was 4 years old when when Meryl was acting. She's not a part of Hollywood.

marienbad · 03-01-2018 10:26pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

I don't care what Melania says, she was 4 years old when when Meryl was acting. She's not a part of Hollywood.

So what ?

Outlaw Pete · 03-01-2018 11:50pm

That interview is incredulous. She says she wants to hear about the silence of Melania Trump and then goes on to excuse her own silence because she doesn't want to ruin anyone's "mature life".

RabbleRouser2k · 04-01-2018 2:09am

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

That interview is incredulous. She says she wants to hear about the silence of Melania Trump and then goes on to excuse her own silence because she doesn't want to ruin anyone's "mature life".

But is happy to denounce Trump, Walt Disney and promote Maggie Thatcher...

She's clueless.

RabbleRouser2k · 04-01-2018 2:12am

marienbad wrote: »

So what ?

Read the article. Her hypocrisy is incredible.

retro:electro · 04-01-2018 2:18am

Gosh. Have you ever read such highfalutin shlte in all your life. Why is the silence of Malania more significant than hers?

Interviewer: Do you want to go into specifics?

STREEP No, no, I don’t. I mean, I was really beaten up, but I don’t want to ruin somebody’s mature life. I just don’t. I do think if the world is going to go on, we have to find out a way to work together....

.... but just don't come looking to me for answers to the questions, right Meryl?
Trump obsessed deflective weirdo.

RabbleRouser2k · 05-01-2018 2:21pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/ed-westwick-replaced-bbc-agatha-11801245

I can't be the only one who thinks getting replaced is unfair-especially when the claims are dubious.

05-01-2018 2:37pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

http:// https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/movies/meryl-streep-tom-hanks-the-post-metoo.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

Meryls deflection is actually embarassing now.

http:// https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/948592818897018880?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E3

I don't care what Melania says, she was 4 years old when when Meryl was acting. She's not a part of Hollywood.

does she not have someone at all with a modicum of sense enough to say
"hey Meryl, say something good on this, or nothing at all".
It's like being married to ted bundy and when asked about his behavior, answering with, oh have you spoken to missus Charles manson!! WTF..

What a CNUT

JP Liz V1 · 06-01-2018 2:42am

Paul Haggis accused

http://people.com/movies/director-paul-haggis-accused-of-rape-sexual-misconduct-by-multiple-women/amp/

RabbleRouser2k · 06-01-2018 10:14am

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Paul Haggis accused

http://people.com/movies/director-paul-haggis-accused-of-rape-sexual-misconduct-by-multiple-women/amp/

Deeply disturbing-especially since he'd claimed one woman was 'lying'-now it's four.

As is Ben Vereen, he's an actor that's been in everything from Roots ('Chicken George') to How I met your Mother, and Law and Order: Criminal Intent (Ironic).
His response is creepy Kevin Spacey Levels.

http://people.com/movies/ben-vereen-accused-of-sexual-assault/

Doesn't even deny it either-despite one womans claims that are clearly coercive rape. What a f**king Piece of S**t.

Bryan Singer's been fired from production duties on Legion, and facing a similar fate from 'The Gifted'.

http://deadline.com/2018/01/bryan-singer-ep-status-the-gifted-under-review-allegations-1202236066/

RabbleRouser2k · 06-01-2018 9:15pm

So Margaret Atwood won't be at the Golden Globes-she of 'The Handmaid's Tale' (aka the book Louise O'Neill copied for one of her lame entries). Health reasons cited.
That's a significant blow to the 'movement', tbh.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/i-m-a-rape-survivor-i-m-hollywoods-all-black-golden-globes-dress-code-guest-column-1072061

The above article is from a rape survivor who does not support the 'wearing black' movement-in fact she sees it as counter productive.
Many rape survivors often wear black, or loose clothing, after an assault. Because they don't want to be seen. Also, stylists are now 'fighting' amongst each other to get the best styles for their actresses.
Some are arguing wearing bright colours, to emphasise women won't be silent, won't be invisible would be a better use of their time.

DavidLyons_ · 06-01-2018 9:30pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

So Margaret Atwood won't be at the Golden Globes-she of 'The Handmaid's Tale' (aka the book Louise O'Neill copied for one of her lame entries). Health reasons cited.
That's a significant blow to the 'movement', tbh.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/i-m-a-rape-survivor-i-m-hollywoods-all-black-golden-globes-dress-code-guest-column-1072061

The above article is from a rape survivor who does not support the 'wearing black' movement-in fact she sees it as counter productive.
Many rape survivors often wear black, or loose clothing, after an assault. Because they don't want to be seen. Also, stylists are now 'fighting' amongst each other to get the best styles for their actresses.
Some are arguing wearing bright colours, to emphasise women won't be silent, won't be invisible would be a better use of their time.

Speaks volumes of the hypocrisy and falseness of what they pretend they wish to achieve.

All the bolloxology of "well, if it serves to highlight the issues" is just that. Bolloxology.

Fcuk Streep and all of the others - male and female - who continue to support the likes of Polanski, Allen and Salva yet feel they can moralise to the rest of us.

Hollywood, and celebrity culture in general, is a cesspool of cnuts and scum.

kunst nugget · 07-01-2018 12:18am

Would the Scientology angle not be relevant in the Haggis case? They really seem to go hell for leather when it comes to making the lives of defectors as miserable as possible.

RabbleRouser2k · 07-01-2018 12:50am

kunst nugget wrote: »

Would the Scientology angle not be relevant in the Haggis case? They really seem to go hell for leather when it comes to making the lives of defectors as miserable as possible.

Its possible, but then again, Danny Masterson is still in the cult, and 5 women have come forward with allegations against him.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-paul-haggis-20180105-story.html

Haggis could have been protected, while in the cult, so the ladies stepping forward could be an indicator that something did happen.

That said, Haleigh Breest, one of the accusers listed in the article, works for the childmind organisation, a division of Scientology.
She 'denies' she's in Scientology in the LA times article-yet her name is listed on a childmind report from September 2017.

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2017/09/19/1124826/0/en/2017-CHILDREN-S-MENTAL-HEALTH-REPORT-THE-TEENAGE-BRAIN-CHILD-MIND-INSTITUTE-ISSUES-NEW-REPORT-ON-TEENAGE-MENTAL-HEALTH-AND-ASSEMBLES-BLUE-RIBBON-PANEL-ON-MENTAL-HEALTH-EDUCATION-IN.html

So it sounds dodgy, especially her dates and claims-we know Scientology has a disassociation thing in their rulebooks, as in 'suppressive people', like Haggis, are to be shunned by Scientologists. Haggis left in 2009, she claims she met him in 2013, I doubt it.

bnt · 07-01-2018 6:38pm

The allegations against Paul Haggis are totally in keeping with Scientology's "Fair Game" practices, and allegations of sexual misconduct are what's in the news at the moment. They are more likely to be believed, without evidence, than e.g. allegations of financial misconduct. So while I'm obviously in no position to say that they are baseless, they aren't all that surprising. More details are here and elsewhere.

ceadaoin. · 08-01-2018 5:47am

Despite all the allegations about Kirk Douglas that have been around for years, he still received a standing ovation at the golden globes. On the night where they are supposedly taking a stand against abuse. Says it all really. I suppose if/when it all comes out noone will have known or heard anything. Hollywood will never change.

RabbleRouser2k · 08-01-2018 7:45am

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Despite all the allegations about Kirk Douglas that have been around for years, he still received a standing ovation at the golden globes. On the night where they are supposedly taking a stand against abuse. Says it all really. I suppose if/when it all comes out noone will have known or heard anything. Hollywood will never change.

Woody Allen could go up their to collect an award/ lifetime achievement etc, and he'd get the same reaction.

Brie Larsson stood by and didn't clap when Casey Affleck won-that's all folks have to do. They won't.

That said, Rolling Stone noticed. 'Very outdated' was the verdict.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/times-up-golden-globes-2018-tackles-sexual-assault-with-mixed-results-w515097

The Kirk Douglas/ Natalie Wood rape. (Be warned, this is very detailed, and very disturbing-so if you are a survivor of rape, this may trigger ptsd). It appears even Natalie's daughter knew. Again, if rumours are true. (I don't believe Walken killed Natalie, nor do I believe Robert Wagner did. I think they were toxic to one another, for sure, but not enough to kill her).

http://gawker.com/5893793/did-robert-downey-jr-really-just-accuse-kirk-douglas-of-a-brutal-rape

Natalie Portman's 'here are the all male nominees' for best director was also, I feel, another deferral. (She paid no attention to how they were all white etc). And most of the winners on the night were, you guessed it, white. (Oscars so white didn't get a tweet, eh?).

That said, it was educational, I didn't know about James Franco (Ally Sheedy made comments about him on twitter), nor Christian Slater.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/01/ally-sheedy-james-franco-christian-slater-tweet-me-too
Now while Franco was honest about instagramming with a 17 year old girl (he claims he didn't know she was 17, he was 35 at the time) and admitted it, he may very well prefer chasing the young girls. That's seriously creepy.
Gary Oldman won too-amid allegations he was a violent jerk years ago, something he denies, but hasn't truly addressed.

I don't know about Slater-like, I know he beat up a girlfriend or two when he was a raging junkie. I won't excuse that, but to me, a true scumbag is a sober one. (Bar the Wood story).

Dan Harmon (Creator of Community/ Rick and Morty) has had to apologise to a former female writer on Community for his being a jerk. Can't imagine the 'Globes' coverage will truly stop the scumbags residing among them.

ceadaoin. · 08-01-2018 8:05am

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Woody Allen could go up their to collect an award/ lifetime achievement etc, and he'd get the same reaction.

Brie Larsson stood by and didn't clap when Casey Affleck won-that's all folks have to do. They won't.

That said, Rolling Stone noticed. 'Very outdated' was the verdict.

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/times-up-golden-globes-2018-tackles-sexual-assault-with-mixed-results-w515097

The Kirk Douglas/ Natalie Wood rape. (Be warned, this is very detailed, and very disturbing-so if you are a survivor of rape, this may trigger ptsd). It appears even Natalie's daughter knew. Again, if rumours are true. (I don't believe Walken killed Natalie, nor do I believe Robert Wagner did. I think they were toxic to one another, for sure, but not enough to kill her).

http://gawker.com/5893793/did-robert-downey-jr-really-just-accuse-kirk-douglas-of-a-brutal-rape

Natalie Portman's 'here are the all male nominees' for best director was also, I feel, another deferral. (She paid no attention to how they were all white etc). And most of the winners on the night were, you guessed it, white. (Oscars so white didn't get a tweet, eh?).

That said, it was educational, I didn't know about James Franco (Ally Sheedy made comments about him on twitter), nor Christian Slater.
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/01/ally-sheedy-james-franco-christian-slater-tweet-me-too
Now while Franco was honest about instagramming with a 17 year old girl (he claims he didn't know she was 17, he was 35 at the time) and admitted it, he may very well prefer chasing the young girls. That's seriously creepy.
Gary Oldman won too-amid allegations he was a violent jerk years ago, something he denies, but hasn't truly addressed.

I don't know about Slater-like, I know he beat up a girlfriend or two when he was a raging junkie. I won't excuse that, but to me, a true scumbag is a sober one. (Bar the Wood story).

Dan Harmon (Creator of Community/ Rick and Morty) has had to apologise to a former female writer on Community for his being a jerk. Can't imagine the 'Globes' coverage will truly stop the scumbags residing among them.

Its more than the Instagram thing with Franco. There are some disturbing rumours about his acting school in New York which abruptly closed (Google James Franco acting school blind items). And also about his behaviour at the college campus he was (is?)teaching at a few years back.

Even Oprah, I found her speech very powerful but then you remember she was often pictured schmoozing with weinstein. The hypocrisy of the whole event is disgusting.

BillyBobBS · 08-01-2018 9:03am

The golden globes was sickening virtue signalling and hypocrisy on a level barely witnessed before. Meryl Streep has to be one of the most dislikeable people on the entire planet the absolute state of her with her double standards preaching to the rest of us. Fcuk off you weapon.

kunst nugget · 08-01-2018 11:45am

I think the Streep thing is becoming a major distraction from what's being highlighted in Hollywood. Sure, she is a hypocritical twunt but that's far less of an issue than the abuses of power going on imo.

'Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Harvey raped, molested and harassed a load of women - we get it - but did you see that bit of virtue-signaling Streep did?!?!?'

kunst nugget · 08-01-2018 11:51am

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

Dan Harmon (Creator of Community/ Rick and Morty) has had to apologise to a former female writer on Community for his being a jerk. Can't imagine the 'Globes' coverage will truly stop the scumbags residing among them.

Surprised at Harmon, considering how defensive he was of his female writers for the third season of Rick and Morty. He did seem to be reaching out to Megan Ganz to find some way of reconciling the situation with her.

AlphabetCards · 08-01-2018 11:51am

'Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Harvey raped, molested and harassed a load of women - we get it - but did you see that bit of virtue-signaling Streep did?!?!?'
Show me where he was convicted of rape? It's easy to make allegations to papers, let's see some criminal proceedings.

kunst nugget · 08-01-2018 11:58am

AlphabetCards wrote: »

'Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Harvey raped, molested and harassed a load of women - we get it - but did you see that bit of virtue-signaling Streep did?!?!?'
Show me where he was convicted of rape? It's easy to make allegations to papers, let's see some criminal proceedings.

Will it make it you happier if I put 'allegedly' before it? Will that right the wrongs in this world?

]'Yeah, yeah, yeah, so Harvey allegedly raped, molested and harassed a load of women and almost ever woman that has dealt with him in a professional capacity seems to have a story about his inappropriate behaviour - we get it - but did you see that bit of virtue-signaling Streep did?!?!?'

08-01-2018 12:08pm

BillyBobBS wrote: »

The golden globes was sickening virtue signalling and hypocrisy on a level barely witnessed before. Meryl Streep has to be one of the most dislikeable people on the entire planet the absolute state of her with her double standards preaching to the rest of us. Fcuk off you weapon.

I'm getting tired of the Streep bashing. She may be a complete and utter hypocrite. So what? Unlike rape or sexual assault, it's not a crime. If she says a prayer for Roman Polanski every night, so what?

Brief_Lives · 08-01-2018 12:21pm

what virtue signalling?

retro:electro · 08-01-2018 12:36pm

It's just all so nauseating at this point.

NIMAN · 08-01-2018 12:38pm

anna080 wrote: »

It's just all so nauseating at this point.

Couldn't agree more.

All those numpties wearing black, attention seeking.

If the man, or any other man in Hollywood commited any crimes, let the law take them to task. If you had sex with a guy, or let a guy touch you, to further your career, get over it.

Vojera · 08-01-2018 3:15pm

Remember the time there were complaints about the lack of black people at the Oscars and then the next year there were tonnes of black nominees, but then it pretty much went back to business as usual? That's honestly how I see this going. There's a big hubbub this year, but is it going to last? I don't see it.

That's not to say that I don't want things to change, but Hollywood is always going to be a money game, and they'll go with the most profitable option, whether that's a token round of female-led productions or silent pay-offs of offenders and warnings to victims to keep quiet.

As regular Joe (and Jane) Soaps, I think it's more important that we are aware of predatory behaviour in our own workplaces and in our own social lives, that we tell people when their behaviour is not okay, and that we enable people who need to tell their stories to do so. Hollywood isn't "real" to me - it's so far removed from us normies that I see it on a separate plane. But if we can use all this as a lesson in our own lives, well then that's something.

kunst nugget · 08-01-2018 3:35pm

NIMAN wrote: »

Couldn't agree more.

All those numpties wearing black, attention seeking.

If the man, or any other man in Hollywood commited any crimes, let the law take them to task. If you had sex with a guy, or let a guy touch you, to further your career, get over it.

So if Hollywood systemically exploits women and/or children and women and/or children take part in that exploitation because of the promise of a career, that's okay?

08-01-2018 4:11pm

I think the worst part of all this is seeing people like Justin Timberlake tweeting about the #metoo movement and coming across like someone who cares, when not three months ago he was promoting the new Woody Allen.

RabbleRouser2k · 08-01-2018 7:21pm

There was so much of this that irritated the hell out of me. 'Vote for Oprah'-ummmm, no thanks. Her show enabled people like Jenny McCarthy and her 'anti-vaxx' lies. Gave Trump a platform (oh, and was then 'denouncing' him last night).
She's friends with John Travolta-yeah, the creepy weird guy who's been accused of molesting or assaulting a number of guys.
Oprah looked out for the rich people-she came from poverty, but never looked out for the little person. Like she forgot where she came from. You only have to watch one of her shows to know that.
Oh and there was that time she done ticked off beef farmers in the US.
And she also unleashed Dr Phil, and Dr Oz on us...

She'd only protect much of the rich.

The last thing that ticked me off was Natalie Portman's 'and here's all the men that are nominated'....
Hey Nat? When you won your Oscar for Black Swan, in 2011, how many non-white, non-heterosexual women were nominated that year? The answer is zilch, zero, nada...now go watch 'Perfect Blue', it's the brilliant movie that Darren Aronofsky ripped off to make Black Swan. Oh, and despite it being animatedm the main actress does all her own dancing, no stunt doubles who didn't get credit, not like Portman. Of all the people to claim someone didnt 'earn it '.

The Globes were very much 'Globes so White'-Oprah was a distraction, again. Much of it was all distraction.

enfant terrible · 08-01-2018 8:11pm

RabbleRouser2k wrote: »

The last thing that ticked me off was Natalie Portman's 'and here's all the men that are nominated'....
Hey Nat? When you won your Oscar for Black Swan, in 2011, how many non-white, non-heterosexual women were nominated that year? The answer is zilch, zero, nada...now go watch 'Perfect Blue', it's the brilliant movie that Darren Aronofsky ripped off to make Black Swan. Oh, and despite it being animatedm the main actress does all her own dancing, no stunt doubles who didn't get credit, not like Portman. Of all the people to claim someone didnt 'earn it '.

She also signed a petition defending child rapist Roman Polanski.
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/8/17/16156902/roman-polanski-child-rape-charges-explained-samantha-geimer-robin-m

Prominent celebrities across America were outraged; 138 of them signed a petition against his arrest, including Natalie Portman, Tilda Swinton, Isabelle Huppert, Penelope Cruz, Diane von Furstenberg, Wes Anderson, Darren Aronofsky, Martin Scorsese, Monica Bellucci, Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu, Harmony Korine, Ethan Cohen, David Lynch, and Harrison Ford.

The arguments were many: The trial was a long time ago; the judge was corrupt; Polanski is a great artist; and anyway, as Whoopi Goldberg put it, he had only pleaded guilty to statutory rape, not “rape-rape.”

Harvey Weinstein scandal (Mod warning in op.)

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