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DCM 2018 - Mentored Novice Thread
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How amazing it is to check in here every few hours and see the group growing!
Rossi7 those are some great times you have against your name, not to mention the good genes, the future is bright for you, welcome on board.
Brownbinman delighted to see you back here, yay
I think one of the key contributors to shin splits is building up the mileage too quickly so let's be very careful in that regard ok. If you want to post more specifics of current mileage and plans for the next few weeks of the base building phase up then please do. Also, i think it may be a better idea to pick one of the plans and stick with it, it's important to trust the plan you choose. Again, by all means share the reasons you're thinking a hybrid might suit you better and maybe we could advise you towards one or the other? It sounds like you're in a good place right now with a mix of running, cross training and the core work, i have no fears that with consistent, sensible training you can achieve your goal
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“Ariana’s Athletes” coming up!
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Just one point for any novices to note on this one. There will be lots of experienced and faster runners who will most likely join this group. Don't be intimidated by their distances or speeds. I nearly lost my bottle when I compared myself to them. Stick to your plan and your paces, nobody is judging. As you get to know your fellow novices it is really interesting to see what training they are doing and where they do it.0 -
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Brownbinman delighted to see you back here, yay I think one of the key contributors to shin splits is building up the mileage too quickly so let's be very careful in that regard ok.
Thanks Ariana. I've been working hard lately on the basics, doing 5-6km. Will post my plan tomorrow as it's in office. I just found 3 days in row too much on the legs. Bike in and out of work on different days helps too
Really considering signing up again. Might get checked out by physio first though0 -
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Hi everyone! Have recently decided to go for it but yet to sign up so I figure posting here will make it official!
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
5k - 23:04 (March 2018)
10k - 49:07 (April 2018)
HM - 1:58:36 (Dec 2017)
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
5-6 days per week, totalling 30-35 miles at the moment.. not much in the way of cross training but lots of foam rolling to avoid injury!
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
Goal at the moment is 3:50 but anything sub 4 would be fantastic.. dream time would be 3:45
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
5-6 days is ideal, planning to follow the Jack Daniel's 2Q 41-55 Mile Marathon Plan
What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
Biggest worry is injury - seem to get injured every time I start to make real progress in my 2 year's running.. other than that, usual first time nerves i.e. am I able for this??
Why are you running this marathon?
The challenge! The carb loading sounds good too :P0 -
Hobbyjogger wrote: »Hi everyone! Have recently decided to go for it but yet to sign up so I figure posting here will make it official!
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
5k - 23:04 (March 2018)
10k - 49:07 (April 2018)
HM - 1:58:36 (Dec 2017)
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ? Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
5-6 days per week, totalling 30-35 miles at the moment.. not much in the way of cross training but lots of foam rolling to avoid injury!
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
Goal at the moment is 3:50 but anything sub 4 would be fantastic.. dream time would be 3:45
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
5-6 days is ideal, planning to follow the Jack Daniel's 2Q 41-55 Mile Marathon Plan
What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
Biggest worry is injury - seem to get injured every time I start to make real progress in my 2 year's running.. other than that, usual first time nerves i.e. am I able for this??
Why are you running this marathon?
The challenge! The carb loading sounds good too :P
The carb loading is difficult!! I had trouble fitting in all I was supposed to! :pac: Your times so far would make all of your goals reachable. As you said the big worry is injury so be careful. The 2Q plans leave a lot in your hands. Make sure to keep the easy runs easy, very easy in fact. The long slow runs will help pull your half times in line with what your 5k time indicates you could do. Keep posting your updates. I'll be following with interest.0 -
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The carb loading is difficult!! I had trouble fitting in all I was supposed to! :pac: Your times so far would make all of your goals reachable. As you said the big worry is injury so be careful. The 2Q plans leave a lot in your hands. Make sure to keep the easy runs easy, very easy in fact. The long slow runs will help pull your half times in line with what your 5k time indicates you could do. Keep posting your updates. I'll be following with interest.
Thanks! All good advice.. will keep this updated every so often and look forward to reading everyone's progress 0 -
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Ahnoyouregrand hi and welcome. 35-40km per week is a solid base and another 7-8 weeks at that kind of weekly mileage will have you perfectly poised to start the HHN1 plan, i have every confidence you will make the start and finish line by sticking with the plan.
Hobbyjogger Hi and welcome also. I had the same thought as Skyblue, I'd expect your HM time to be a bit faster based on your 5k time but the marathon training will definitely help with that, it'll be interesting to see the improvement if you sign up for a HM during the training. I'm not an expert on JD but i'm sure you've done your own research and we'll be looking forward to seeing how things go for you. Even though you won't be following the same plan as a lot of people in this group it will still be a great resource for you as no doubt you will be going through similar experiences.
brownbinman definitely no harm to get checked out again for reassurance alone. It's great that you're doing the cross training on the bike that will all help. Do post your plan when you get a chance 0 -
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I'm in! A friend of mine who's a graduate from a few years back (and is now a running machine) just gave me the heads-up this thread is up, so I'm jumping in early.
Had a bit of a false start with this last year. Two weeks after deciding to do the marathon, I realised I had to attend a wedding that clashed with it, so that put the kibosh on that. I've always wanted Dublin to be my first marathon so I'm back for a second crack at it. And I'm turning down every social event in October
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs?
10km: 52:38 (Great Ireland Run - April 2018)
Half-marathon: 2:04:30 (Great Limerick Run - May 2016).
I'm signed up for Cork Half-marathon at the start of June and am hoping to go sub 2 hours.
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training?
No
How much training do you currently do ?
Running 4 times a week at the moment. I'm on week 8 of a Half-Marathon plan, which will be 21 miles with a 10 mile long run.
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time?
Absolute dream would be sub 4:20, but I'd be so delighted to just finish it.
How many days a week can you train? And what plan do you intend to follow?
4 days a week and, being an immediate nuisance, I'm considering the Hal Higdon Novice 2 Plan. To me, it looks like a nice balance between the Novice 1 and the Boards plan. I like the idea of getting the slightly longer long runs in and a bit of pace work during the week.
What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
Put simply, not being able to start. Or worse again, being able to start but not being able to finish.
Why are you running this marathon?
To see if I can, really. I have an autoimmune disease that, for the most part, behaves itself. Occasionally it flares up and gives me a bit of grief but even then, it's not as severe as it might be. Or, indeed, was previously.
It took about 2 years to get it under control tho, during which time I couldn't do anything fitness related, really. It'd mean an awful lot to me to be able to get to the finish line.0 -
Ahnoyouregrand hi and welcome. 35-40km per week is a solid base and another 7-8 weeks at that kind of weekly mileage will have you perfectly poised to start the HHN1 plan, i have every confidence you will make the start and finish line by sticking with the plan.
Hobbyjogger Hi and welcome also. I had the same thought as Skyblue, I'd expect your HM time to be a bit faster based on your 5k time but the marathon training will definitely help with that, it'll be interesting to see the improvement if you sign up for a HM during the training. I'm not an expert on JD but i'm sure you've done your own research and we'll be looking forward to seeing how things go for you. Even though you won't be following the same plan as a lot of people in this group it will still be a great resource for you as no doubt you will be going through similar experiences.
brownbinman definitely no harm to get checked out again for reassurance alone. It's great that you're doing the cross training on the bike that will all help. Do post your plan when you get a chance
Yeah that was my first (and only) HM so the goal was just sub 2:00, the 5k and 10k times are more recent so I'd be aiming for a fairly big PB for the next HM, hopefully over the summer. I've used daniels plans before and worked well for me so that's why I decided to stick with them, and I like the way the long runs include the sessions with the rest of the runs easy. Will be interesting to see other's plans regardless and keep up with progress ☺️0 -
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Hi to all today's new posters and welcome.
RunningFlyer you have some great times against your name and also the experience of having ran a marathon already which will be a bonus. I think you should try to start building up 1 of your runs every week gradually between now and June 25th to get you in a better position to start the training. If you build it up over the next 8 weeks even to 12-14km you will be in a much stronger position. We had some shift workers last year also so i'm sure they will be able to help you out this year.
Aloooof, fair play to you i love your determination. The half marathon plan will have you in a great position to start training for DCM. Best of luck in Cork, i'll be looking forward to hearing how it goes for you.
effibear you'll have plenty of struggles to make the time no doubt but it can be done, if you need to swop around days that is ok - i know Kellygirl always does her long run on a Wednesday because it suits her family life - where there is a will there is a way The experience of the marathon you have already run will stand to you too, you will be able pass on some tips to your fellow novices during the process. 0 -
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Hi to our newest novices
ChippyRun you've already got great advice from Skyblue and Brownbinman. You mention 3/4 days running and 2 gym classes, I think 4 days running with 1/2 gym classes should be a goal for you, the gym classes are great but you can't beat consistent running, just keep everything nice & easy as has already been said to you
Hedgehoggy I did all my training on my own last year so i know what's that like and trust me it won't be easy but it's sounds like you are well up for the challenge and if i could do it - anyone can You have some good times behind you. Same advice for you as ChippyRun be careful building up the mileage - sudden increases can definitely show up any weaknesses - keep everything nice & slow. And don't worry slow is the new fast (or to be more precise slow is the way to get fast!) 0 -
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Long time lurker of the 2017 thread and it definitely inspired me to actually put in my details to actually sign up for the DCM and the race series.
So thank you everyone who contributed on the old thread and here’s to a new bunch of graduates!
Have you raced before? If so what are your PBs? (Date and distance please!)
Yes but nothing beyond 10k yet.
5K: 22.51 at St Anne’s Parkrun (could be fast, next best is 23.06 in Marlay Parkrun.)
10K: 51.24 at Great Ireland Run
Do you still need to take walk breaks in your training? (No problem if you do)
No
How much training do you currently do ?
Distances, how many days a week, cross training - whatever you think is relevant to your current fitness level.
On average, maybe 20k, sometimes more, sometimes less. Gym once a week sometimes less, haha!
What do you want to achieve? Dream finishing time and realistic finishing time? Or just complete it in no specified time?
Dream is sub 4, realistic 4.40 maybe. Will be delighted to finish though.
How many days a week can you train?
5?
And what plan do you intend to follow?
Going to draw up one that works around my schedule taking inspiration from Hig Higdon/Boards/Online
What is your biggest worry/fear/doubt (if you have any!) in signing up?
The fear that I can’t do it.
Why are you running this marathon?
For the challenge and achievement of doing it.0 -
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Best of luck with it. I’m doing the full in Cork. Fingers crossed we get nice calm and not too warm weather for it and you’ll do that sub 2 no problem. Do you know the route?
Cheers, and good luck with your full too!
A friend of mine has mentioned the weather has been very warm for it in previous years alright, so I'm hoping it won't be too bad.
I'm not very familiar with Cork, so don't really know the route, but I'll have a look at the elevation for it before the day itself and will try and come up with a plan for it. It'll actually be the first race I do where I don't know the route at all, not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I just hope it doesn't go near Patrick's Hill! 0 -
Cheers, and good luck with your full too!
A friend of mine has mentioned the weather has been very warm for it in previous years alright, so I'm hoping it won't be too bad.
I'm not very familiar with Cork, so don't really know the route, but I'll have a look at the elevation for it before the day itself and will try and come up with a plan for it. It'll actually be the first race I do where I don't know the route at all, not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I just hope it doesn't go near Patrick's Hill!
You only look at Patrick’s Hill, don’t worry. :-)
There’s a thread about it in the events section that might help anyway.0 -
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RunningFlyer wrote: »Thanks for the encouraging messages!
One question that I have always been curious about - why are the long runs always on a Saturday yet the race is on a Sunday? Just an extra rest day before the big day I guess?
I tend to do switch my long runs between Saturday & Sunday depending on what the kids have going on. There's no hard and fast rule as to what day you do the runs. Some experts will even advocate a 10 day cycle (especially for older or more injury prone runners) but as most other aspects of our lives operate on a 7 day cycle it's often easier to train on a 7 day cycle too. And i suppose most of us have more time on a Saturday or Sunday for the magic long run.
Hi corcaigh07 and chabsey. Great to have you both on board.
chabsey training for a marathon on 3 runs a week will be difficult (but not impossible) - is there anyway you could get a 4th run a week. Many people run during their lunch break at work or early in the morning so it doesn't impact on family life? Even a 4th run every 2nd week would be a benefit, think about it
corcaigh07 have no fear, of course you can do it, if i can anyone can! Being able to run 10k isn't a bad starting point, like we've said to others maybe try to increase the distance on 1 run a week gradually over the next few weeks keeping the pace very easy. You don't want any big jumps in mileage but a small increase will give you a better base for starting the plan on June 25th.0 -
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Agree it's not ideal, I can't remember off hand but I think it's what I did for the 2015 marathon, while also juggling moving house and a new baby (not literally juggling).
Somehow I made it work. I think as I got closer to the event I ramped it up a bit, my training for 2015 was pretty ramshackle so it's surprising I managed to finish at all. I'll push for 4 runs a week though.
If you can get to 4 runs great but if not maybe you could do a 4th training session at home - a HIIT session in your living room perhaps, there are plenty of options available on You Tube!? We can talk about it closer to the time but i think the focus will be on you getting 3 quality runs and anything else will be a bonus. You have a marathon behind you too so that will stand to you 0 -
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