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GAMSAT 2018

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  • #652
    Urethra Franklin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Urethra Franklin.


    Tooms1234 wrote: »
    Ah on reading your post again I understand that you received hardcopies from NUIG which is fine. Originally I only sent scanned versions and this was the problem for the CAO. I think you should be ok then, sorry for any unnecessary panic.

    Thanks Tooms! :) No real panic at all :)


  • #653
    Indecisivegirl
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭Indecisivegirl


    When I applied last year, instead of sending original transcripts I just wrote a sort of letter that gave them the code needed to access my electronic transcripts and also the website to go to to see the transcripts and since it’s like secure (because you need a code and it’s on the official website) it works out! I did send printed out transcripts too but I don’t think they took those into account since they weren’t like originals but the access to electronic ones was perfectly fine! Just incase anyone wants an alternative way other than having to pay for original transcripts from your college! :)


  • #654
    1direction
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭1direction


    Tooms1234 wrote: »
    Hi ya,

    Last year when I applied I was almost rejected because of inadequate documentation. I sent transcripts instead of original copies. NUI Galway were very helpful to me by issuing my original copies as quick as possible once I found out there was an issue. I received the original copies just in time for my new deadline given to me by the CAO.
    Here is what they sent me last year.

    "Dear Applicant,

    This is an automated e-mail generated as a result of the e-mail address provided in your 2018 CAO application.

    Thank you for your application to study Graduate Medicine. The institutions concerned have collectively reviewed your application and based on the documentation received as of July 15th 2018, you have been deemed ineligible to compete for the following reason:

    - Inadequate documentation supplied (all candidates were required to submit original academic transcripts for all years of their first NFQ Level 8 primary degree, detailing final degree classification)

    If you have a query with respect to what documentation is outstanding, you should contact one of the Admissions Offices to which you have applied.

    If you wish to appeal this decision, you must do so by writing to CAO, outlining your appeal and presenting your outstanding supporting documents.

    All documentation pertaining to your appeal must be received at CAO no later than Thursday July 26th, 2018 at 5.15 p.m. You should write 'Graduate Medicine Appeal' at the top of the envelope.

    Please note that no appeals will be considered after July 26th, 5:15 p.m."

    So I advise you to call the CAO tomorrow to confirm if your transcripts are adequate because they weren't for me. Hope this helps and good luck with your application.


    Do you reckon that everyone who doesn’t have the right documents/ don’t submit documents get this opportunity to appeal the decision??

    Currently have major issues getting transcripts from Ucd as they’ve told me they’re having some system issue or something with my transcripts. They seem to think it might be resolved early this week but I’ve low expectations because I’ve been after these transcripts for awhile now so was kind of wondering if it was possible to not submit and then just appeal the decision once I have the documents


  • #655
    Adreidphysio
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Adreidphysio


    On the subject of documents, do Irish applicants who have lived and schooled in Ireland their whole life have to submit proof of their EU status? It's recorded that all my secondary school and university years were in Ireland on my CAO application, but I'm just paranoid in case they need something more than that. Anybody know any different or am I just being paranoid?


  • #656
    indiep
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭indiep


    I didn't do this last year so your'e grand.


  • #657
    Medico008
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Medico008


    Does anyone have any idea when UL starts the academic year?


  • #658
    indiep
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭indiep


    Hey yeah! Incoming 1st years have orientation week stating Monday the 2nd of September (Last year we didn't have anything on the Monday so you will likely be starting on the 3rd of September).

    Y1 Classes start Sept 9th.


  • #659
    1direction
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭1direction


    Is there any way of knowing if cao received what you sent in?


  • #660
    arainagusime
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭arainagusime


    1direction wrote: »
    Is there any way of knowing if cao received what you sent in?

    You email or call them.

    In the past two weeks I couldn't get through on the phone and via email it just is a copy paste response to contact next week or at the end of the week. They say things are being scanned at the moment and individual documents cannot be traced.

    The deadline is soon to submit documents so not sure what to do.


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  • #661
    brendanwalsh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    Registered post would be the best option to confirm they received your goods


  • #662
    arainagusime
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭arainagusime


    brendanwalsh wrote: »
    Registered post would be the best option to confirm they received your goods


    Did that and finally got though to the CAO after 12 calls. They have a small staff but they were lovely on the phone. Totally sorted now - they are now able to confirm receipt of documents.


  • #663
    1direction
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭1direction


    arainagusime wrote: »
    Did that and finally got though to the CAO after 12 calls. They have a small staff but they were lovely on the phone. Totally sorted now - they are now able to confirm receipt of documents.

    I only got my transcripts yesterday so ended up hand delivering them in Galway today. I’m from Louth so that was a pain in the arse but I didnt want to risk them not getting there. Better get a place this year after all of this hassle ah!!! Nervy wait now


  • #664
    arainagusime
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭arainagusime


    1direction wrote: »
    I only got my transcripts yesterday so ended up hand delivering them in Galway today. I’m from Louth so that was a pain in the arse but I didnt want to risk them not getting there. Better get a place this year after all of this hassle ah!!! Nervy wait now

    Jesus that is some trek. Totally worth it though.

    I didn't know you could just walk up to the office and handover documents. That may come in handy should I need to submit an appeal.

    I have a feeling we will all get emails next Friday about our eligibility. After that, it's all about the GAMSAT score. Fingers crossed.


  • #665
    1direction
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭1direction


    arainagusime wrote: »
    Jesus that is some trek. Totally worth it though.

    I didn't know you could just walk up to the office and handover documents. That may come in handy should I need to submit an appeal.

    I have a feeling we will all get emails next Friday about our eligibility. After that, it's all about the GAMSAT score. Fingers crossed.

    Yeh I know I was expecting it just to be a letter box but turns out you can full on walk into an office!! Learn something new everyday I guess lol

    And yes hopefully get all the documents approved next week because safe to say I don’t want another round trip to Galway!

    Here’s hoping the 1st of August comes soon and there’s no crazy point jumps!!!!


  • #666
    Urethra Franklin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Urethra Franklin.


    So where is everyone hopefully heading for? Anywhere is brilliant obviously but what's everyones first pick. I put UCD down as my no. 1 but it's looking unlikely. From memory I don't recall anyone here mentioning RCSI which I'm surprised by. It's my 3rd choice, I'm just surprised no one seems to have mentioned it.


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  • #667
    1direction
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭1direction


    Urethra Franklin. wrote: »
    So where is everyone hopefully heading for? Anywhere is brilliant obviously but what's everyones first pick. I put UCD down as my no. 1 but it's looking unlikely. From memory I don't recall anyone here mentioning RCSI which I'm surprised by. It's my 3rd choice, I'm just surprised no one seems to have mentioned it.

    My preferences are Ucd, rcsi, ucc and ul but to be fully honest I’m not that bothered about getting Dublin and I also probably don’t have the score to get it. I’m hoping for Ucc but will be happy to go to ul either!


  • #668
    1direction
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭1direction


    Also anyone have any idea ratio of girls to guys in gem?


  • #669
    coopersock
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭coopersock


    Just wondering why no one seems keen on RCSI? I assumed it would be the first choice for anyone wanting to do GEM, and at the very least first choice for those looking to stay in Dublin?


  • #670
    indiep
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭indiep


    1direction wrote: »
    Also anyone have any idea ratio of girls to guys in gem?

    UL GEM 1st year last year was majority girls. Probably 65/35, 60/40 if im putting a ball park on it.


  • #671
    Medico008
    Registered Users Posts: 2 ✭Medico008


    indiep wrote: »
    Hey yeah! Incoming 1st years have orientation week stating Monday the 2nd of September (Last year we didn't have anything on the Monday so you will likely be starting on the 3rd of September).

    Y1 Classes start Sept 9th.


    thank you, it looks like i may have time to submit my resignation letter in that case. I'm and RGN hoping to get into UL this year.


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  • #672
    Indecisivegirl
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭Indecisivegirl


    Is anyone able to see their supporting documents on their CAO online application? They were up for me back in March or April then it went away and I remember it was up this time last year but it’s nowhere to be seen on my application now


  • #673
    WorthlessPeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭WorthlessPeon


    What are the class sizes of each GEM year? Having trouble finding out that info for UL for example


  • #674
    arainagusime
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭arainagusime


    Indecisivegirl wrote: »
    Is anyone able to see their supporting documents on their CAO online application? They were up for me back in March or April then it went away and I remember it was up this time last year but it’s nowhere to be seen on my application now

    They took them down for everyone. You have to call or email to see if they have all of your documents scanned. They told me that unis will not review them until the middle of next week so you have time to send any outstanding documents in.


  • #675
    arainagusime
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭arainagusime


    coopersock wrote: »
    Just wondering why no one seems keen on RCSI? I assumed it would be the first choice for anyone wanting to do GEM, and at the very least first choice for those looking to stay in Dublin?

    I can only speak for myself but I ranked RCSI last because Dublin is expensive and living near campus in St Stephen's Green would be prohibitive.


  • #676
    0lddog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    coopersock wrote: »
    Just wondering why no one seems keen on RCSI? I assumed it would be the first choice for anyone wanting to do GEM, and at the very least first choice for those looking to stay in Dublin?

    If you do a Boards search you will pick up a few opinions on RCSI

    e.g. https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057943289


  • #677
    jody24
    Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭jody24


    i have lots of gamsat materials for sale. it includes des oneills books, gold standard book and lots more. if any one interested i am willing to sell it for really cheap price. otherwise if any one wants them i am willing to give them away for free as i dont want to have them while some body might need it and cant afford buying it.


  • #678
    indiep
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭indiep


    WorthlessPeon wrote: »
    What are the class sizes of each GEM year? Having trouble finding out that info for UL for example

    UL = 144

    but you are mostly split up into groups of 8/9 for PBL and clinical skills.


  • #679
    Rwalsh22
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Rwalsh22


    Just wondering if anyone has gotten an email from the CAO regarding academic eligibility? I know they are supposed to be emailing this week to indicate whether or not the supporting documents were suitable


  • #680
    1direction
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭1direction


    Rwalsh22 wrote: »
    Just wondering if anyone has gotten an email from the CAO regarding academic eligibility? I know they are supposed to be emailing this week to indicate whether or not the supporting documents were suitable


    I haven’t heard anything! Reckon it’ll be tomorrow (hopefully)


  • #681
    arainagusime
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭arainagusime


    1direction wrote: »
    I haven’t heard anything! Reckon it’ll be tomorrow (hopefully)

    Just got an email from CAO showing that supporting documents were scanned, but no mention of eligibility.

    Edit - Just got through on the phone. Eligibility emails will most likely be out on Monday.


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  • #682
    Rwalsh22
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Rwalsh22


    Oh great that’s great to know I was getting worried !
    arainagusime wrote: »
    Just got an email from CAO showing that supporting documents were scanned, but no mention of eligibility.

    Edit - Just got through on the phone. Eligibility emails will most likely be out on Monday.


  • #683
    1direction
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭1direction


    Got an email from cao! My documents were accepted buzz


  • #684
    Rwalsh22
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Rwalsh22


    Rwalsh22 wrote: »
    Oh great that’s great to know I was getting worried !

    Literally just (5:14pm) got an email from them confirming eligibility, relief 🙂


  • #685
    Eartha Braveheart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 ✭Eartha Braveheart


    ditto - emails out


  • #686
    arainagusime
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭arainagusime


    Deemed ineligible because they aren't sure if i have only one degree due to a transfer credit situation. Sigh.

    I also have a foreign (American) degree so they aren't sure if it is a 2H1.

    I had already shown UCD and UL my transcripts and they said I was eligible over email.

    So, I am now appealing.

    Anyone have any advice?


  • #687
    Indecisivegirl
    Registered Users Posts: 25 ✭Indecisivegirl


    Does anyone have a first year timetable for UCD? Or does anyone know how the hours are (at any of the colleges)? Has anyone found it possible to work part time while in med school?


  • #688
    DANCER97
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭DANCER97


    Hey Guys, this indecsision is killing me, what do you think chances are for UCD with a score of 61?


  • #689
    Urethra Franklin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Urethra Franklin.


    DANCER97 wrote: »
    Hey Guys, this indecsision is killing me, what do you think chances are for UCD with a score of 61?

    You're having a laugh, right? Don't think the cut off for UCD has ever been that high, I don't even recall it ever being 60 never mind 62+. The cut off first round last year was 59* (and subsequently dropped to 58*) It is extremely unlikely to jump 3 points.


  • #690
    DANCER97
    Registered Users Posts: 7 ✭DANCER97


    I just hate this incessent waiting.


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  • #691
    Rwalsh22
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭Rwalsh22


    DANCER97 wrote: »
    I just hate this incessent waiting.
    The time is really dragging, thank god only 10 days left


  • #692
    Adreidphysio
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭Adreidphysio


    What do you think of a score of 60 then? Much difference?
    Urethra Franklin. wrote: »
    You're having a laugh, right? Don't think the cut off for UCD has ever been that high, I don't even recall it ever being 60 never mind 62+. The cut off first round last year was 59* (and subsequently dropped to 58*) It is extremely unlikely to jump 3 points.


  • #693
    Urethra Franklin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Urethra Franklin.


    Adreidphysio wrote: »
    What do you think of a score of 60 then? Much difference?

    Oh gosh I'm not an expert in the slightest. Just my opinion above but I reckon worst case scenario would be a 1 point jump. Could also drop, who knows. I looked at past years and there was one year where UCD and UCC both jumped by 2 points in round 0, but I think that was the year the GAMSAT changed its style of questioning so I guess people scored better overall. Also that was during the crash so a lot of people would have seen medicine as a good reliable career/couldn't get jobs in their own field. Now there's a "boom" again and people can find work a lot more easily, also medicine is not a desirable career for making tons and tons of money, people are more willing to follow careers which may be more risky stability wise but more financially rewarding; if I for example was to stay in my current field I could potentially earn 60k p/a in 2 or 3 years. Excluding over time if I was accepted to Medicine this year and never repeated a year, it wouldn't be until I reached SHO level till I could earn that sort of money-a minimum of 6 years away. Possibly more. I have no inclination how many people applied to grad med this year but there are more reasons to avoid it than in previous years; less people normally means less competition. Personally, I'm hoping for a drop in points :P


  • #694
    santino
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭santino


    Tooms1234 wrote: »
    Hi ya,

    Last year when I applied I was almost rejected because of inadequate documentation. I sent transcripts instead of original copies. NUI Galway were very helpful to me by issuing my original copies as quick as possible once I found out there was an issue. I received the original copies just in time for my new deadline given to me by the CAO.
    Here is what they sent me last year.

    "Dear Applicant,

    This is an automated e-mail generated as a result of the e-mail address provided in your 2018 CAO application.

    Thank you for your application to study Graduate Medicine. The institutions concerned have collectively reviewed your application and based on the documentation received as of July 15th 2018, you have been deemed ineligible to compete for the following reason:

    - Inadequate documentation supplied (all candidates were required to submit original academic transcripts for all years of their first NFQ Level 8 primary degree, detailing final degree classification)

    If you have a query with respect to what documentation is outstanding, you should contact one of the Admissions Offices to which you have applied.

    If you wish to appeal this decision, you must do so by writing to CAO, outlining your appeal and presenting your outstanding supporting documents.

    All documentation pertaining to your appeal must be received at CAO no later than Thursday July 26th, 2018 at 5.15 p.m. You should write 'Graduate Medicine Appeal' at the top of the envelope.

    Please note that no appeals will be considered after July 26th, 5:15 p.m."

    So I advise you to call the CAO tomorrow to confirm if your transcripts are adequate because they weren't for me. Hope this helps and good luck with your application.

    Hi guys,

    Major help would be appreciated here.

    I got a similar email to the one above today.
    I've been onto CAO stating that I sent ORIGINAL transcripts on the 17th Feb last. These have my undergrad colleges stamp (in colour). I'm digging out my own copy shortly. I was extremely careful of this when applying, not wanting to end up in this situation.
    These are also available to view as scans on the CAO website.

    CAO replied basically saying its out of their hands and to appeal. I have until Monday morning.

    Now, the thing is they ONLY provided the UCD email address. UCD is my 4th choice and I have emailed them to ask their opinion and to see what info they received.
    I'm wondering does the UCD admissions office oversee the admissions for the whole country (unlikely) or is this just a UCD issue?

    I have also emailed UL (my 1st choice) to see if they have any issue with my documentation. Going to ring them in the morning too.

    Freaking out here guys.

    PS. This isn't my first time applying. The info I sent last year is identical to the info I sent this year and that was accepted last year. Totally confused and frustrated.

    Help if you can. What should I do???


  • #695
    indiep
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭indiep


    Not sure if this is the email you contact for UL but use this one medicalschool@ul.ie


  • #696
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    indiep wrote: »
    Not sure if this is the email you contact for UL but use this one medicalschool@ul.ie

    Just to tack on to this. I'd also send the same email to saa@ul.ie which is the point of contact for Student Academic Administration. They are fairly slow to reply and since you're time limited I'd contact them by telephone too on +353 61 233755


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  • #697
    santino
    Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭santino


    Thanks for the contact details. Have emailed and will follow up by phone tomorrow.


  • #698
    indiep
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭indiep


    Good luck! Hopefully you'll be ok :)


  • #699
    arainagusime
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭arainagusime


    It seems eligibility cannot be confirmed until offers come out! The admissions offices will still inform you if the documentation in your appeal is sufficient if you ask -- just no final answers.


  • #700
    arainagusime
    Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭arainagusime


    santino wrote: »
    Thanks for the contact details. Have emailed and will follow up by phone tomorrow.

    How did you get on?


  • #701
    1direction
    Registered Users Posts: 32 ✭1direction


    arainagusime wrote: »
    How did you get on?


    Did you get yours sorted in the end?


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