16 year-old boy guilty of murdering Alesha MacPhail

SortingYouOut · 21-03-2019 2:44pm

SoundsRight wrote: »

Yes, thsts why he went to the house; to look for drugs, as Alesha's father was a dealer. Anyone who thinks it's a harmless drug should consider that little girl's final moments.

He could've been going in to look for anything and would have done the same.

corks finest · 21-03-2019 2:44pm

cluane wrote: »

A 16 year-old boy was found guilty today of the rape and murder of 6 year-old girl Alesha MacPhail on the Isle of Bute in western Scotland. He abducted Alesha at knifepoint from her bedroom at her grandparents' home and carried her half a mile to a woodland clearing on the site of a former hotel where he raped and smothered her to death.

The evil bastard then had the brass neck to blame Alesha's stepmother of killing her and framing him by planting his DNA on her body. He also bragged about it with friends on social media. It seems that he had something against Alesha's father who had previously sold him cannabis.

My question is:

Do you think that children who commit serious crimes like this should be given special treatment? This scumbag probably won't be named and come sentencing in March will be given a Mickey Mouse sentence of 10 years. It is my opinion that they should be named and given the mandatory life sentence like adult murderers do.

Scottish law is mostly the same as English law, which in turn Irish law roughly conforms to. Our justice system is so fu**ed up that he'd probably get 2 years in Oberstown and 4 in adult prison if he did this here.

Life and would hope he gets the ****e knocked out of him every time he thinks he's safe

Car99 · 21-03-2019 2:44pm

SoundsRight wrote: »

Yes, thsts why he went to the house; to look for drugs, as Alesha's father was a dealer. Anyone who thinks it's a harmless drug should consider that little girl's final moments.

If the drugs were legal he wouldn't have to have gone to the house either. Depends what way you look at it . Just saying.

Sardonicat · 21-03-2019 2:47pm

SoundsRight wrote: »

k99_64 wrote: »

? he wasnt on any drugs at the time.

Yes, thsts why he went to the house; to look for drugs, as Alesha's father was a dealer. Anyone who thinks it's a harmless drug should consider that little girl's final moments.

He said that's why he went in. The truth is he went in with the sole purpose of abducting, violating and murdering that little girl.

SoundsRight · 21-03-2019 3:10pm

Sardonicat wrote: »

He said that's why he went in. The truth is he went in with the sole purpose of abducting, violating and murdering that little girl.

Join the dots. She'd still be alive of it wasn't for the drugs link between her killer and her father.

k99_64 · 21-03-2019 3:19pm

SoundsRight wrote: »

Join the dots. She'd still be alive of it wasn't for the drugs link between her killer and her father.

Thats true, she might be alive, but another girl would be dead. He said that the minute he saw her he wanted to kill her.

Sardonicat · 21-03-2019 3:24pm

SoundsRight wrote: »

Sardonicat wrote: »

He said that's why he went in. The truth is he went in with the sole purpose of abducting, violating and murdering that little girl.

Join the dots. She'd still be alive of it wasn't for the drugs link between her killer and her father.

He killed her because he wanted to kill her. Simple as. Her Dad selling weed, which I'm not condoning btw had nothing to do with that child's murder other than some half baked attempt at an alibi by the murderous little cnut.

SusieBlue · 21-03-2019 3:28pm

SoundsRight wrote: »

Join the dots. She'd still be alive of it wasn't for the drugs link between her killer and her father.

She'd be dead because that sicko decided he wanted to rape and murder her.
None of the other facts are relevant.
She is dead because he committed an abhorrent, unforgivably violent act on an innocent defenseless child.

No one is responsible for what happened to her apart from the person who has been convicted of her rape and murder.

Neyite · 21-03-2019 3:33pm

SoundsRight wrote: »

Join the dots. She'd still be alive of it wasn't for the drugs link between her killer and her father.

So if someone fancies a bit of weed but their dealer has none they'll be overcome with a compulsion to abduct, rape, torture and murder a child instead?

What the hell do you smoke??

punisher5112 · 21-03-2019 3:37pm

If he wasn't a dealer then this guy most likely would never have crossed paths with the girl.

Drugs are extremely dangerous and the brain is one extremely dangerous thing.

jmayo · 21-03-2019 3:37pm

Neyite wrote: »

Eligible to apply for parole at 43. Slight difference. Doesn't mean he'll get it. I doubt he'll ever see the light of day again.

The judge seems to think that he's not been one bit remorseful and that rehabilitation is unlikely. So chances are a parole board in almost 30 years will concur. If someone doesn't kill him in jail first.

I can point to a couple of cases in Ireland where killers were allowed back on the streets to kill once again.

And one of those was only a teenager when he first killed an elderly neighbour. The only reason he gave the guards was that he wanted to know what it felt like.
They knew at the time this guy should never be allowed out again.
But hey authorities and experts allowed him out.

Years later he killed another elderly neighbour whilst on day release and he looks a likely suspect in the killing of another woman whilst he was on work placement prior to release.

Some people are just plain bad and never ever should be allowed out.

The world would be done a great favour if they were dispatched with a bullet to the back of the head.

SusieBlue · 21-03-2019 3:43pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

If he wasn't a dealer then this guy most likely would never have crossed paths with the girl.

Drugs are extremely dangerous and the brain is one extremely dangerous thing.

Have you read anything about the case? It was a tiny island with a very small population.
Their families were known to each other regardless of the drugs connection.

punisher5112 · 21-03-2019 3:46pm

SusieBlue wrote: »

Have you read anything about the case? It was a tiny island with a very small population.
Their families were known to each other regardless of the drugs connection.

Doesn't mean you would cross paths.

I live in a small estate and haven't seen 80% of the people there.

Neyite · 21-03-2019 4:25pm

jmayo wrote: »

I can point to a couple of cases in Ireland where killers were allowed back on the streets to kill once again.

And one of those was only a teenager when he first killed an elderly neighbour. The only reason he gave the guards was that he wanted to know what it felt like.
They knew at the time this guy should never be allowed out again.
But hey authorities and experts allowed him out.

Years later he killed another elderly neighbour whilst on day release and he looks a likely suspect in the killing of another woman whilst he was on work placement prior to release.

Some people are just plain bad and never ever should be allowed out.

The world would be done a great favour if they were dispatched with a bullet to the back of the head.

In Ireland we are crap at decent sentencing.crimes. I dread to think what kind of pathetic sentence he'd have got here. Probably 10 years with 2 off for good behaviour and emerge with a law degree paid for by taxpayers and a new identity or something.

Look, I don't think people like this should ever see the light of day. But I do think that England and Scotland are much harsher on these kind of crimes and that this bloke won't ever see parole. Well, I hope so.

Sardonicat · 21-03-2019 4:27pm

He actually got a longer minimum sentence than Hindley (25 yrs) and she never got out. Not for want of trying, mind.

bazz26 · 21-03-2019 4:36pm

I'd say he will spend most of that sentence segregated or isolated too. I don't think they take too kindly to child rapists and/or child murderers in general population. Either way he should sleep with one eye open all the time.

sReq | uTeK · 21-03-2019 4:40pm

How is it this scumbag will get food and water for 27 years...
He should be tortured every natural minute for the rest of his existence on this planet.

There is truly horrible human beings out there the like of which words xant describe.

Heartbreaking

El Weirdo · 21-03-2019 5:07pm

Neyite wrote: »

In Ireland we are crap at decent sentencing.crimes. I dread to think what kind of pathetic sentence he'd have got here. Probably 10 years with 2 off for good behaviour and emerge with a law degree paid for by taxpayers and a new identity or something.

No he wouldn't. A life sentence is mandatory for murder in Ireland.

EmmetSpiceland · 21-03-2019 5:09pm

El Weirdo wrote: »

No he wouldn't. A life sentence is mandatory for murder in Ireland.

You’d fancy your chances of a short stint if you were in front of Judge Nolan.

Neyite · 21-03-2019 5:16pm

El Weirdo wrote: »

No he wouldn't. A life sentence is mandatory for murder in Ireland.

Ok I may have exaggerated a little.:D Still think we are too soft on sentencing though.

Sardonicat wrote: »

He actually got a longer minimum sentence than Hindley (25 yrs) and she never got out. Not for want of trying, mind.

I didn't know that.

But the Scottish legal system is different to the English one that Hindley was sentenced under though I'm not sure what exact differences there are. I hope that it is similar in this case.

Sardonicat · 21-03-2019 5:50pm

It really does depend on the parole board in 27yrs. I don't believe that his lack of empathy can be reversed at this stage of his life but this kind are notoriously good at manipulation (Hindley certainly was) and can be successful at hoodwinking well intentioned people ( a la Hindley ). This pos doesn't seem to have done himself any favours in this regard. Let's hope he is as transparent in 27yrs as he is now.

21-03-2019 5:54pm

El Weirdo wrote: »

No he wouldn't. A life sentence is mandatory for murder in Ireland.

Not many murder convictions alas.

BENDYBINN · 21-03-2019 5:59pm

He’s only a childeen at the end of the day..........who knows what brain disease he has.......pray for him

take everything · 21-03-2019 6:12pm

With a bit of luck he'll die in jail.

I'm in a foul mood so couldnt be bothered mincing my words.
He's got that poncy/anything goes Ian Watkins vibe about him.

RIP to that poor child.

donkeykong5 · 21-03-2019 6:39pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

El Weirdo wrote: »

No he wouldn't. A life sentence is mandatory for murder in Ireland.

You’d fancy your chances of a short stint if you were in front of Judge Nolan.

He let's off paedophiles daily in court with either a suspended sentence or a friendly warning.

SoundsRight · 21-03-2019 6:43pm

Neyite wrote: »

So if someone fancies a bit of weed but their dealer has none they'll be overcome with a compulsion to abduct, rape, torture and murder a child instead?

What the hell do you smoke??

If you associate with criminals than bad things tend to happen. You may think it's ok to deal drugs around children, but it's putting them in serious danger.

tayto lover · 21-03-2019 7:04pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Not many murder convictions alas.

There are loads of people convicted of murder in Ireland.

take everything · 21-03-2019 7:08pm

Seems to be a Youtube video still up of this subhuman ****head talking to a camera while trampolining.

Bigbagofcans · 21-03-2019 10:02pm

take everything wrote: »

Seems to be a Youtube video still up of this subhuman ****head talking to a camera while trampolining.

Those videos of him need to be eradicated from the internet. I'm sure there are sickos like him rejoicing in his infamy.

myshirt · 21-03-2019 10:06pm

I really wish I hadn't heard the details of this case. What an evil, evil bastard.

BBFAN · 21-03-2019 10:42pm

I don't agree that this guy should be put to death, that's such an easy way out. He should live a miserable existence until the day he dies, that's a far better punishment than a quick painless death.

TomSweeney · 22-03-2019 12:07am

Saw his photo, jesus he looks so normal.
Frightening.

Heckler · 22-03-2019 12:16am

Its highly unlikely he'll be released at his first parole hearing. I hope he's killed in prison. What he did and how he behaved during the trial demonstrate his depravity. No loss to humanity.

Heckler · 22-03-2019 12:21am

BBFAN wrote: »

I don't agree that this guy should be put to death, that's such an easy way out. He should live a miserable existence until the day he dies, that's a far better punishment than a quick painless death.

This has merits too. I think I'd rather be killed than spend the rest of my days in jail.

Heckler · 22-03-2019 12:24am

I have my doubts. Ian Huntely is still alive. Are they segregated for their safety ?

brendanwalsh · 22-03-2019 12:27am

I will Light a candle and saw a silent prayer that he will suffer an unmerciful death in prison. Absolute disgusting human being who makes me wish we still had the death penalty in Scotland

Rubberchikken · 22-03-2019 12:51am

i wouldnt wish death on him. it wont undo what he did.
i firmly believe in evil and i think this boy is seriously lacking in empathy, remorse even sadness.

Pretzeluck · 22-03-2019 2:26am

brendanwalsh wrote: »

I will Light a candle and saw a silent prayer that he will suffer an unmerciful death in prison. Absolute disgusting human being who makes me wish we still had the death penalty in Scotland

Yes put head on Dublin spire

Pretzeluck · 22-03-2019 2:27am

BBFAN wrote: »

I don't agree that this guy should be put to death, that's such an easy way out. He should live a miserable existence until the day he dies, that's a far better punishment than a quick painless death.

Would you like to torture him? Pull his teeth out one by one then cut off his hands? And legs?

Pretzeluck · 22-03-2019 2:32am

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

27 years?.... eligible for parole at 43 years old?... that just seems wrong to me.

I would fully support the reintroduction of the death penalty for crimes like this.

Exactly **** innocent people that get executed as a result, **** them. I pray to God's of thunder that one of your family would be sentenced to death for a crime they didn't commit. Would be poetic justice.

Pretzeluck · 22-03-2019 2:34am

tayto lover wrote: »

I’d happily carry out the death sentence on this vile creature.
People like him shouldn’t exist after a hideous crime like this on a sweet innocent child.

I would execute your for pleasure

Pretzeluck · 22-03-2019 2:34am

mad muffin wrote: »

When I read something like this, I just think. Please let me stand in line, to stone him to death. One person throws one stone, until he’s dead. :mad:

Can I do that to you pls? I would pay for the privilege

Pretzeluck · 22-03-2019 2:39am

Whoever wants to kill or torture someone, torture me instead. Pm me and ill come so you can torture me. I'll rid this world of scum like you, pure evil ****. The teenager killed a child now I Will torture him and execute him in the worst way possible that will surely teach him. **** off, you're doing it for pleasure. So meet me and I'll give your this tucking pleasure.

Westernyelp · 22-03-2019 2:42am

Go to bed Pretzeluck

Hoboo · 22-03-2019 2:47am

Oooh, a tough guy

Pretzeluck · 22-03-2019 2:54am

Hoboo wrote: »

Oooh, a tough guy

How am I the tough one? Tough ones are the ones who want to torture and kill a 16 year old in the worst possible ways and then pretend they are better then him. Both them and the teenager are subhumans and we all know how Mr. Hitler dealt with subhumans.
Savage uncivilized subhumans. Would use human energy to power a power plant

Hoboo · 22-03-2019 3:01am

Pretzeluck wrote: »

How am I the tough one? Tough ones are the ones who want to torture and kill a 16 year old in the worst possible ways and then pretend they are better then him. Both them and the teenager are subhumans and we all know how Mr. Hitler dealt with subhumans.
Savage uncivilized subhumans. Would use human energy to power a power plant

That's my daily internet quota up.

kowloon · 22-03-2019 3:27am

Hedgelayer wrote: »

You'll get some lunatics leaning left who'll be banging war drums and sending smoke signals to have empathy for the monster...

Posters like this are ruining the forum and the rest of the internet with it.

Hector Savage · 22-03-2019 10:17am

Pretzeluck wrote: »

Yes put head on Dublin spire

Pretzeluck wrote: »

Would you like to torture him? Pull his teeth out one by one then cut off his hands? And legs?

Pretzeluck wrote: »

Exactly **** innocent people that get executed as a result, **** them. I pray to God's of thunder that one of your family would be sentenced to death for a crime they didn't commit. Would be poetic justice.

Pretzeluck wrote: »

I would execute your for pleasure

Pretzeluck wrote: »

Can I do that to you pls? I would pay for the privilege

Pretzeluck wrote: »

Whoever wants to kill or torture someone, torture me instead. Pm me and ill come so you can torture me. I'll rid this world of scum like you, pure evil ****. The teenager killed a child now I Will torture him and execute him in the worst way possible that will surely teach him. **** off, you're doing it for pleasure. So meet me and I'll give your this tucking pleasure.

Bigbagofcans · 22-03-2019 10:37am

Heckler wrote: »

I have my doubts. Ian Huntely is still alive. Are they segregated for their safety ?

Ian Huntley was attacked on 2 separate occasions - firstly scalded by boiling water and then he had his throat slashed in another prison.

On 23 January 2008, Huntley was moved to Franklin Prison. On 21 March 2010, he was taken to hospital, with media reports stating that his throat had been slashed by another inmate; his injuries were not said to be life-threatening. The prisoner who wounded Huntley was later named as convicted armed robber Damien Fowkes, who went on to kill another convicted child killer, Colin Hatch.

This man deserves a medal.

16 year-old boy guilty of murdering Alesha MacPhail

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