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Would you ever consider moving to continental Europe? And if so where?

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  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seenitall wrote: »
    Last summer in London was absolutely scorching. Now, if we could get those kind of days here in the west of Ireland even a third of the time, we’d have something approaching a proper summer, and with all the beautiful beaches here..... ahhh heaven (one can only dream).

    The frustrating thing is that London is really not that far away!

    London in the heat is not that nice. The real temperature is much higher than the met office official results. It depends though on the humidity as in Ireland. A dry heat is grand anywhere.

    (Until you drop dead of dehydration but that’s another story).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭seenitall


    London in the heat is not that nice. The real temperature is much higher than the met office official results. It depends though on the humidity as in Ireland. A dry heat is grand anywhere.

    (Until you drop dead of dehydration but that’s another story).

    Yeah you see I think it depends on what you grew up with, basically. That can be your preference a lot of the time. My daughter is Irish and she positively loves the rainy, windy weather we have here all year round. I will never get that, as I grew up with the hot, dry summers (miss them so much!) and below zero winters (don’t miss them as much, tbf).

    I’m in heaven when I’m sweating like crazy on a hot summer’s day and I have to tip a bottle of water over myself to cool myself down in the street. Within 10 minutes I’ll be dry again. It’s such a good feeling. I did live my first quarter century with the summers of up to 35 C easily, so that sticks I guess, and I miss them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    snotboogie wrote: »
    I never said you can expect perfect weather every day however the weather in France is far more predictable than it is in Ireland.

    As fvp4 points out, you're going to have to be a lot more specific in your comparison/contrast. The weather in Brittany (one part of France) is pretty much identical to Ireland. The weather in the new Hauts de France region is completely different to the new Nouvelle Aquitaine region. The latter is same size as the whole of Ireland (give or take a few square kilometres), and the weather in the top right-hand corner is nothing like the weather in the bottom left.

    In fact, the expression "quatre saisons dans la même journée" is used to describe the typical weather in several parts of France (Brittany and Normandy for a start). And one of the most popular widgets on our national forecaster's website is the "Pluie dans l'heure" tool - will it, or won't it rain, in the next hour. I've been using it all day to plan my outdoor work and breaks today, and I don't live in any of the regions I named as examples above. Funny that a country with supposedly predictable weather would go to the trouble of developing such a popular tool! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭seenitall


    As fvp4 points out, you're going to have to be a lot more specific in your comparison/contrast. The weather in Brittany (one part of France) is pretty much identical to Ireland. The weather in the new Hauts de France region is completely different to the new Nouvelle Aquitaine region. The latter is same size as the whole of Ireland (give or take a few square kilometres), and the weather in the top right-hand corner is nothing like the weather in the bottom left.

    In fact, the expression "quatre saisons dans la même journée" is used to describe the typical weather in several parts of France (Brittany and Normandy for a start). And one of the most popular widgets on our national forecaster's website is the "Pluie dans l'heure" tool - will it, or won't it rain, in the next hour. I've been using it all day to plan my outdoor work and breaks today, and I don't live in any of the regions I named as examples above. Funny that a country with supposedly predictable weather would go to the trouble of developing such a popular tool! :p

    I spent a week around Deauville area last summer and it was hot and sunny every day. I mean real hot. Tout le monde was on the beach there. Is that some fluke of luck I had there, or is it that their summers are a tiny bit better than we get here, quand meme?

    The west of Ireland, we had the summer 2020 of 5 days from end of May into June, and a few days in August, by all accounts. (By a summer, I mean enough sun to get us into the very early 20s C at least, at which point I run to the beach, as I know it won’t last!). Every 5 years or so, we get a proper summer here, where 25 C will last some weeks. 2018 was the last one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Not as Icy as you’d think.

    Don’t get me started on Greenland.

    Not as Green as you'd think?


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    seenitall wrote: »
    Yeah you see I think it depends on what you grew up with, basically. That can be your preference a lot of the time. My daughter is Irish and she positively loves the rainy, windy weather we have here all year round. I will never get that, as I grew up with the hot, dry summers (miss them so much!) and below zero winters (don’t miss them as much, tbf).

    I’m in heaven when I’m sweating like crazy on a hot summer’s day and I have to tip a bottle of water over myself to cool myself down in the street. Within 10 minutes I’ll be dry again. It’s such a good feeling. I did live my first quarter century with the summers of up to 35 C easily, so that sticks I guess, and I miss them.

    I don’t like wet or windy weather. I’m talking about the major heat islands you get in London. The street I was living on had a temperature of 50C according to my measurements. The general temp was mid 30s but they measure outside London or in Hyde park. My street was narrow, concrete buildings and pavement, south facing, had tube exhaust tunnels etc. Nasty. No air con either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    seenitall wrote: »
    I spent a week around Deauville area last summer and it was hot and sunny every day. I mean real hot. Tout le monde was on the beach there. Is that some fluke of luck I had there, or is it that their summers are a tiny bit better than we get here, quand meme?

    Which week? One of the 2-in-100-years heatwave weeks, perhaps?

    You can pick any example of how the weather during one holiday in one country was better (or worse) than your general impressions of what you remember the weather being like when you lived in one part of another country at some point in the past. The long and the short of it is, though, that choosing to move to a different country purely to have different weather is a gamble, as any single country can have different weather patterns in different regions, and climate change means that whatever you might think you're signing up for could be historical by the time you move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭seenitall


    Which week? One of the 2-in-100-years heatwave weeks, perhaps?

    You can pick any example of how the weather during one holiday in one country was better (or worse) than your general impressions of what you remember the weather being like when you lived in one part of another country at some point in the past. The long and the short of it is, though, that choosing to move to a different country purely to have different weather is a gamble, as any single country can have different weather patterns in different regions, and climate change means that whatever you might think you're signing up for could be historical by the time you move.

    Really? So it was just pure luck and I was in Normandy last year on a 2-in-100 years’ event week? Blimey, that climate sounds much worse than Galway even! Thanks! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,892 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    seenitall wrote: »
    Really? So it was just pure luck and I was in Normandy last year on a 2-in-100 years’ event week? Blimey, that climate sounds much worse than Galway even! Thanks! :D

    Well I don't know for sure, as you haven't said which week. :p But Normandy recorded its highest ever temperatures last summer during the heatwave (worse than 2003). Most of the northern parts of France experienced temperatures higher than the southern half during that period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    Anyone bought in Seville or living there currently?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭flipflophead22


    Anyone else considering moving to continental Europe after this is all over?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,572 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Anyone else considering moving to continental Europe after this is all over?

    Yep. I'd love the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Germany or France. Just had my first job application binned.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    I always get lonely in France for some reason. I always feel very isolated and alienated while there. I have such fond memories of long summers down the south of France but when you're there as an adult, you're not near the sea, it's winter and it's cold and dreary and everywhere is closed on a Sunday, just gives me a sad feeling


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Yep. I'd love the Netherlands, Belgium, Sweden, Germany or France. Just had my first job application binned.

    If you choose Germany, start learning the language before you leave. It’s not extraordinarily difficult, but it takes longer to get to the point of basic proficiency vs. Latin-based languages.

    Too many people are under the impression that all Germans speak English. They don’t. They’re usually pretty accommodating of non-German speakers for your first year or two in the country. However, if you aren’t showing decent proficiency at that point, they’ll think that you’re taking the piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    Portugal.... and more specifically, east Algarve


  • Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭Feria40


    Spain, South of Spain. Perhaps Torremolinos and I don't care who judges me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    Anyone else considering moving to continental Europe after this is all over?
    I'd love to but getting a job is the problem. Prague or Vienna would be great.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Feria40 wrote: »
    Spain, South of Spain. Perhaps Torremolinos and I don't care who judges me :)

    A really handy thing about Torremolinos is that it's just a 25 minute commuter bus spin into Malaga City which is not a bad town at all and it has high speed train links to some cracking places for really cheap fares.

    I love France but I can't be the only person to find it sorta boring after staying for a little while and in winter the shutters just get pulled down and the people sorta hibernate.

    I'm actively looking at property in Crete at the moment, it won't happen for another year or two but I'm keeping an eye on the market to see what effects Brexit is having on it.
    Lovely weather, people and food and good scope for working in what I do here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 442 ✭✭Feria40


    humberklog wrote: »
    A really handy thing about Torremolinos is that it's just a 25 minute commuter bus spin into Malaga City which is not a bad town at all and it has high speed train links to some cracking places for really cheap fares.

    If I could just figure out the part of making enough money to support a family in reasonable comfort..:pac:

    Crete, another fine spot and great people


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,154 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I always get lonely in France for some reason. I always feel very isolated and alienated while there. I have such fond memories of long summers down the south of France but when you're there as an adult, you're not near the sea, it's winter and it's cold and dreary and everywhere is closed on a Sunday, just gives me a sad feeling


    yes, plus all their houses are back to front.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    Gorteen wrote: »
    Portugal.... and more specifically, east Algarve

    Interesting choice, spain and portugal seem to be very popular i just wonder when would/will be a good time to buy there...crystal ball and all that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    humberklog wrote: »
    A really handy thing about Torremolinos is that it's just a 25 minute commuter bus spin into Malaga City which is not a bad town at all and it has high speed train links to some cracking places for really cheap fares.

    I love France but I can't be the only person to find it sorta boring after staying for a little while and in winter the shutters just get pulled down and the people sorta hibernate.

    I'm actively looking at property in Crete at the moment, it won't happen for another year or two but I'm keeping an eye on the market to see what effects Brexit is having on it.
    Lovely weather, people and food and good scope for working in what I do here.

    How do prices in Crete compare to Ireland? Been to crete once loved it. As your actively looking do you get alot for your money?


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    zweton wrote: »
    How do prices in Crete compare to Ireland? Been to crete once loved it. As your actively looking do you get alot for your money?

    Yeah, there's of course regional differences in prices. I'm looking in the North between Chania and Rethymno city (specifically around Plaka for a number of reasons that suits what I'm looking for).
    It's hard to compare prices between Ireland and Crete though as the properties are very different- as in you don't get housing estates there in the same way as Ireland.

    A closer comparison would be Tenerife, Lanzerote, Majorca, Manorca etc. and price wise you'd get more bang for your buck in Crete even though Crete would be one of the more expensive regions/islands in Greece. It's a relatively affluent island for the region.

    In the price region of €225k-€325k in the area I'm looking you can get a very nice house with pool and close to amenities.
    Price and property wise it's comparable to coastal large towns in Andalusia.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,572 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Hamachi wrote: »
    If you choose Germany, start learning the language before you leave. It’s not extraordinarily difficult, but it takes longer to get to the point of basic proficiency vs. Latin-based languages.

    Too many people are under the impression that all Germans speak English. They don’t. They’re usually pretty accommodating of non-German speakers for your first year or two in the country. However, if you aren’t showing decent proficiency at that point, they’ll think that you’re taking the piss.

    Is this your personal experience?

    With my luck, I'd get fluent and then get the job in France. I was looking at Heidelberg but I'll see how things go.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Is this your personal experience?

    With my luck, I'd get fluent and then get the job in France. I was looking at Heidelberg but I'll see how things go.

    Yeah. You need to speak the language if you want to be respected professionally in Germany.

    Having said that Heidelberg is a bit of anomaly. English would be more prevalent there because of the internationalization driven by the large university. I think there is also a significant US army presence in that area.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    France. Have contently made it my home. Renting but looking for a spot happy to wait patiently


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,572 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Hamachi wrote: »
    Yeah. You need to speak the language if you want to be respected professionally in Germany.

    Having said that Heidelberg is a bit of anomaly. English would be more prevalent there because of the internationalization driven by the large university. I think there is also a significant US army presence in that area.

    There is. Knew a few English women who'd lived there.

    Makes sense language wise and I'd want to learn it but I'd need some slack at the start.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Live in Warsaw, have done since 2009.
    Came to study here during the crash, stayed and worked here ever since.
    Winters used to be brutal but the last few years seem to be warmer.
    Summers are generally good and it's great being able to drive around the continent.
    Employment is quite stable but the government is utter garbage.
    They have made the country close to unliveable.
    I've picked up the language enough to get by but noticed that people are changing.
    Country is quite split between the ultra patriots who are against anything foreign to those that embrace the EU and everything that goes with it so you've quite an interesting situation.
    Government is very religious and the church is a massive deal here, from abortion bans to high inflation it's a very strange place to live.
    Generally safe, great mountain towns with cabins that you can rent relatively cheap.
    Much better selection of cars to buy but huge risks you're buying two cars welded into one.
    Salaries are ok, but the eurozone will eat into your salary fair quick so it is harder to travel comfortably with a polish salary.
    Its a nice experience but I'd love to come home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    There is. Knew a few English women who'd lived there.

    Makes sense language wise and I'd want to learn it but I'd need some slack at the start.

    They will cut you some slack for sure. However, if you know you plan to move there, go take an intensive course at the Goethe institute before you move. It will really help with the transition and navigating the initial bureaucracy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,640 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    bear1 wrote: »
    Live in Warsaw, have done since 2009.
    ...
    Its a nice experience but I'd love to come home.

    Interesting insight into life in Poland. It seems like a lot of the Poles who migrated West post 2004 in the EU expansion are starting to return home.

    I’m curious if they tend to reintegrate seamlessly? Or do they find that the country has changed too much in their absence and they end up bouncing West again?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    There is. Knew a few English women who'd lived there.

    Makes sense language wise and I'd want to learn it but I'd need some slack at the start.



    I sometimes meet eastern europeans here in Ireland that have lived her the last 10 to 20 years, some have zero English, it puzzles me that they never learned the language but I wouldn't think any less of them and would treat them the same as anyone else I met. That poster doesn't paint a great picture of the Germans and the way they treat people who don't learn the language quickly. would you really want to live in a country with them kind of people? maybe they should lighten up a tad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Hamachi wrote: »
    That’s not unique to Germany. Try living in France without speaking French. To be honest, if you haven’t mastered the fundamentals of most languages after a few years, you’re either not trying very hard or are living in a bubble.



    who cares though?, if they dont or cant learn the language that is up to them. I dont see why the natives would be bothered by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Hamachi wrote: »
    You work with them in an office and are forced to speak in a second or third language just to get through the work day. You can’t see why that would be draining and annoying?

    You don’t see anything rude about moving to another country and actively refusing to learn the local language?



    I am self employed so working in an office with them wouldnt be an issue.

    it isnt rude at all if they dont speak the language.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,314 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I think possibly somewhere like amsterdam. I have a friend who lives there and I would visit a fair bit I can see the appeal, he speaks very little dutch but works for european org so english is only real common language lucky for him.
    I would personally need to learn language to fit in I think.

    I also love Spain, and Spanish people, could be fun to learn Spanish again I loved it in school.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Hamachi wrote: »
    Most people aren’t self-employed and have to engage with colleagues. Why should Romain in Lyon or Thomas in Munich be forced to speak in another language just to accommodate a colleague who refuses to speak their language. You really can’t see how rude that is?




    So Germans and French are only annoyed by people who don't learn the language if they work with them?

    your definition of rude and mine seem to be totally different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,474 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Hamachi wrote: »
    I suspect our definitions of most things are very different. Good luck.



    It would be a boring world if we were all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Economics101


    Portugal: apart from great wine, food and weather, public services have improved hugely. When I was first there (in Salazar's time - that's a giveaway as far as my age is concerned) it was quite backward and one had to learn some Portuguese pretty fast in order to get by. Now I find that a huge number of people under 50 speak English, and are more than keen to do so. All I want to do is speak a little Portuguese and not let my knowledge got too rusty.

    This speaks a lot about the attitude of the people: they appreciate their own culture, but are not at all stuck up or hyper-nationalist. They had a revolutionary (but peaceful) transition to democracy which was in many respects inspiring.

    Eastern Algarve and a huge number of inland towns and villages are on my go-to list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭Gorteen


    Portugal: apart from great wine, food and weather, public services have improved hugely. When I was first there (in Salazar's time - that's a giveaway as far as my age is concerned) it was quite backward and one had to learn some Portuguese pretty fast in order to get by. Now I find that a huge number of people under 50 speak English, and are more than keen to do so. All I want to do is speak a little Portuguese and not let my knowledge got too rusty.

    This speaks a lot about the attitude of the people: they appreciate their own culture, but are not at all stuck up or hyper-nationalist. They had a revolutionary (but peaceful) transition to democracy which was in many respects inspiring.

    Eastern Algarve and a huge number of inland towns and villages are on my go-to list.

    I struggle with Portuguese but still try to shop, travel and chat in the language as much as possible.
    I'm fully on board with the Eastern Algarve thing.....anywhere west of Faro is akin to Sodom and Gomorrah as far as I'm concerned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Tuesday_Girl


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    I sometimes meet eastern europeans here in Ireland that have lived her the last 10 to 20 years, some have zero English, it puzzles me that they never learned the language but I wouldn't think any less of them and would treat them the same as anyone else I met. That poster doesn't paint a great picture of the Germans and the way they treat people who don't learn the language quickly. would you really want to live in a country with them kind of people? maybe they should lighten up a tad.

    They don't expect us to speak to them in Polish to make up for their lack of English language skills though so it's not quite the same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,279 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Spain/Portugal + their amazing choice of Islands in the Med and the Atlantic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,823 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Hamachi wrote: »
    Interesting insight into life in Poland. It seems like a lot of the Poles who migrated West post 2004 in the EU expansion are starting to return home.

    I’m curious if they tend to reintegrate seamlessly? Or do they find that the country has changed too much in their absence and they end up bouncing West again?

    A few years ago I would have said yes but with this government and their policies I found more and more poles are planning on leaving once the pandemic is over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    I'd love to but getting a job is the problem. Prague or Vienna would be great.

    I wouldn't write off Vienna, there's a huge number of international organisations and businesses here that hire native English speakers. A third of the cities population are foreign born, so it's actually not as difficult as you might think to get work here.

    They also have one of the best salary systems I've come across, you get 14 monthly salaries a year. Basically your annual salary is divided by 14, and at the start of the summer and just before Christmas you get the "extra" months salary at a lower tax rate. Utterly brilliant boost in the bank account just before the summer and Christmas holidays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Economics101


    They also have one of the best salary systems I've come across, you get 14 monthly salaries a year.
    referring to Austria.

    They are by no means unique. a 13th or 14th month are not uncommon in Portugal, and France AFAIK. Great way of saving for holidays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,272 ✭✭✭Barna77


    They also have one of the best salary systems I've come across, you get 14 monthly salaries a year. Basically your annual salary is divided by 14, and at the start of the summer and just before Christmas you get the "extra" months salary at a lower tax rate. Utterly brilliant boost in the bank account just before the summer and Christmas holidays.

    A similar system in Spain.
    I miss the two extra pays checks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭ilovesmybrick


    Barna77 wrote: »
    A similar system in Spain.
    I miss the two extra pays checks

    It's honestly the best. Even though I know that it's actually the few hundred removed from every months paycheck previously to that point I still can't help but think of it as free money!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭ShatterAlan


    Brian? wrote: »
    It’s quite easy to understand, read and write. It is not easy to speak though.

    I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but Irish people have a lot of peculiarities with how we speak English.

    Th=d
    T= h sometimes, as in water . Wa her
    G gets dropped at the end of words

    There are dozens more, which vary with with regional accents.

    I really struggle with the Dutch R. The sound is completely unnatural to me. The G is tough, but it’s similar or the ch in Irish. The vowel combinations are a nightmare. I still don’t know if I’m say thuis, boer or Koop right.




    Dutch people hear these difficulties and immediately switch to English. Makes it very hard to practice and get better.


    At the start of a word just pretend the G is a H.


    Pronounce "Gouda" as "How-da"


    Ik heb geen idee = Ik heb hane ee-day


    The Dutch will understand you. They'll just think you learned your Dutch from culchies in Limburg rather than the phlegm spewing Amsterdammers.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    At the start of a word just pretend the G is a H.


    Pronounce "Gouda" as "How-da"


    Ik heb geen idee = Ik heb hane ee-day


    The Dutch will understand you. They'll just think you learned your Dutch from culchies in Limburg rather than the phlegm spewing Amsterdammers.

    I know how it’s done. My post is a response to someone who said it’s east for a native English speaker to learn Dutch. That isn’t true when you speak Hiberno English.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,573 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    It's honestly the best. Even though I know that it's actually the few hundred removed from every months paycheck previously to that point I still can't help but think of it as free money!

    In the Netherlands we get the 13th paid before Christmas.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    Haarlem just outside Amsterdam was a lovely place when i visited, could see myself living there.


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  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lived in France for a couple of years during the Great Recession. Signed up to boards and spent most of my time listening to Irish radio and being extremely homesick. We don't appreciate this country until we've lived abroad, as perhaps most of us in this thread have.

    Coming home was the best decision I ever made. Never regretted it.


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