The Island - Bear Grylls

househero · 01-05-2015 1:42am

bren2001 wrote: »

We don't know how it finishes so it is a bit premature to think they won't get their act together. However, I do agree based on what we have seen. It would be interesting to see two islands with maybe 10 men 4 women and another with 10 women and 4 men to see how the group dynamics change. Although, I would expect just an evenly mixed island.

Will bear provide sheepskin condoms?

If you left me on an island with women... Even ugly old ones. They would all be leaving pregnant. And I would be fighting the other men for dominance. #itsNaturesWay

On Naked and Afraid, the camera crew would leave them at night. One man, one woman and only spooning for warmth. Do you think they provided the pill?

BaZmO* · 01-05-2015 8:49am

househero wrote: »

Bear actually said the yukka was not native and was put in the island. Odd if they didn't put the same on the blokes island. Maybe they just didn't spot it.

Did he really say that? I thought they were very particular about what was on the Islands this year after the set up allegations of last year. As a result I think it's only native plants and animals.

househero wrote: »

Burning protein from internal organs and raised heart rates are some serious side effects of their terrible attempt of survival. Somebody could easily collapse or worse. Their weight loss couldn't be further from healthy or sustainable.

Oh I know how dangerous it is to approach weight loss in such a way, but I've seen enough people go on that ridiculous C9 diet to know how stupid people get when it comes to losing weight.

househero wrote: »

Next year, I expect them to be wearing wireless medical monitors like rugby players. And watch them get pulled when they become at risk. The production team can't afford to cause serious harm (or death) they would be negligent.

They have Doctors on each island monitoring the contestants and they have satellite phones to call for help if needed.

Do those rugby monitors not just track distance travelled along with impacts?

househero wrote: »

Can't this thread be moved to after hours?

You've just answered your own question with your next reply!

househero wrote: »

If you left me on an island with women... Even ugly old ones. They would all be leaving pregnant. And I would be fighting the other men for dominance. #itsNaturesWay

On Naked and Afraid, the camera crew would leave them at night. One man, one woman and only spooning for warmth. Do you think they provided the pill?

razorblunt · 01-05-2015 9:32am

househero wrote: »

I think if we were on the island together, there would be a lot of complaints. I would kick the sh i te out of the pig before I let my dinner run off. I would not go hungy, but the vegans would not be amused #realsurvival

I think the girls hesitation wasn't fear of the pig... But of what people would think if them!

I don't agree with that I have to say, I'm not a fan of what I see as needless slaughter of animals for the sake of a tv show but to give the girls their credit that pig was more hostile and fierce than the piglets.
It also shows the effect of groups, some of the girls held back and it affected even the "braver" one Lauren. The second time round they had an organised plan and it was in clearing rather than through scraggly branches.

Thargor · 01-05-2015 10:04am

God Vic went from one of my favourites last night to the worst one there. His big reveal about the fish he'd caught and his "Three cheers for Vic!" statements were pure cringe.

Funny that none of the others can catch a single fish though, the rods seem to be just a rope on a stick.

pooch90 · 01-05-2015 10:26am

razorblunt wrote: »

With the move to Wednesday next week I wonder are they in fact going to pull the plug for real?

Election coverage next Thursday so only one show I'd imagine and there's more drama with the women's next episode.
With any luck, by the time we get back to the men Vic will have been eaten by a whale that he 'almost' caught.

mikom · 01-05-2015 11:11am

househero wrote: »

Will bear provide sheepskin condoms?

If you left me on an island with women... Even ugly old ones. They would all be leaving pregnant. And I would be fighting the other men for dominance. #itsNaturesWay

More like.... After the first day the potter and the nurse would have you hanging from your wrists and ankles on the pole as the carried you towards the fire.

#LeisuresuitLarry

Buona Fortuna · 01-05-2015 2:48pm

Oh Dear - just watching last nights

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I was a little bit cross that having caught the pig, they left it there caught to go and "have a chat about it".

Then the "Right gals, you go left, you go right, I'll grab its legs ..... Oh Fcuk!"

I don't like killing animals but they deserve a bit of dignity FFS.

That one that had to go because of her back - it was just beyond the wit of everyone to make some sort of bed!

And setting the net was totally useless.

razorblunt · 01-05-2015 9:51pm

pooch90 wrote: »

Election coverage next Thursday so only one show I'd imagine and there's more drama with the women's next episode.
With any luck, by the time we get back to the men Vic will have been eaten by a whale that he 'almost' caught.

Ah christ, of course the election and I live here and all!

bren2001 · 02-05-2015 1:08am

somesoldiers wrote: »

And then they go and cut the head off and I presume leave it behind. Pigs cheek, pigs ears, pigs nose I'm sure if you were starving

The head was in the bucket with the snake. They didn't leave it behind. Regardless, they will never be able to eat the full pig, they have nowhere to store it during the day.

I feel the women get a harsh time on this thread. While they are bad, they are not as bad as some are making out.

the whole year inn · 02-05-2015 7:49am

bren2001 wrote: »

The head was in the bucket with the snake. They didn't leave it behind. Regardless, they will never be able to eat the full pig, they have nowhere to store it during the day.

I feel the women get a harsh time on this thread. While they are bad, they are not as bad as some are making out.

There pretty bad to be fair.Being happy they lost weight while infact they where starving says it all really.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 02-05-2015 11:43pm

Just started watching and caught up with this over the past couple of days on the recommendation of someone in the Survivor thread... Thargor, possibly (I'm too lazy to go back and check)...

Anyway, it's really entertaining. Some interesting characters on both Islands, but Lauren is easily my favourite of the lot (even if she was part of the group who walked around in circles for 4 days) - something about a woman who can bring home the bacon...

somesoldiers · 06-05-2015 9:16pm

All the women have the squits- Bridesmaid's II coming up

razorblunt · 06-05-2015 9:21pm

So the ladies decided to use their only jerry can with a lid to store the leftover pig meat. They cooked it even though it appeared to turn, then the spent the next day getting the ****s, with one girl crapping her pants.
The other two jerry cans have no lid and they had to bin that rancid one.

Meanwhile some of them spent most of the afternoon pre dinner sunbathing.

Ankle fishing came very close to paying off though.

Addle · 06-05-2015 9:35pm

Is Lauren more talk than action?
I know she killed the pig, but the others caught it.
Maybe it's just the editing, but she seems to talk about doing stuff more than actually doing stuff.

razorblunt · 06-05-2015 9:40pm

You'll always have selective editing, I guess, but yeah, she did the killing rather than anything. I think, in fairness though she sees herself contributing as a member of a group rather than looking out for herself which the Scottish lass just admitted too.
Also at least she called things out in the open rather than being passive aggressiveness like that girl with the childlike voice.

Yes I'm really bad with names!

Addle · 06-05-2015 9:43pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Also at least she called things out in the open rather than being passive aggressiveness like that girl with the childlike voice.

She's very annoying.

Why can't they just clean out the other jerry can?

razorblunt · 06-05-2015 9:56pm

They've just been given the cheatsheet and told to go get it.

You'd have thought that a few boils of seawater would have gotten them out of the mess or at least closer to a better situation.

Addle · 06-05-2015 9:59pm

Lauren gets lucky and makes a big fuss. I'm wary of her!

somesoldiers · 06-05-2015 10:00pm

John West just happens to be passing

Thespoofer · 06-05-2015 10:25pm

Why the hell does no-one make a bow and few arrows ? Unless I'm after missing something.

I'd be shooting everything that moved if I was in there.

Cork boy 55 · 06-05-2015 10:52pm

This is island they live on pearl islands
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Gibrale%C3%B3n
In gulf of panama only a few kilometres from major luxury homes and resorts on the bigger islands just off panama canal trade route maybe 60 k from panama city
Thic

Trond · 06-05-2015 11:45pm

Fair play to justeat

Mezcita · 07-05-2015 1:05am

You couldn't make half of the stuff on the ladies island up.

Only took them ten days to realise they needed that other jerry can.

razorblunt · 07-05-2015 9:23am

It's the lack of bedding I still can't get my head around. When they had to de-tick each other last night the closeup should one ladies' hand completely covered in bites.

BaZmO* · 07-05-2015 9:27am

razorblunt wrote: »

You'd have thought that a few boils of seawater would have gotten them out of the mess or at least closer to a better situation.

I was shouting the same thing at the TV. What exactly do the think the reason is for boiling all the other water?

It's just basic stuff, but they are making a total balls out of everything.

Mezcita wrote: »

You couldn't make half of the stuff on the ladies island up.

Only took them ten days to realise they needed that other jerry can.

I don't believe in conspiracy theories generally, but I'm starting to think that this is all a set up. They are fecking useless. It takes a warning that they're all gonna die unless they get the finger out from the producers before they start to actually do stuff. Idiots.

Like how long did it take them to find the Yucca once they stared to look for it? Didn't look like it took much effort either.

Buona Fortuna · 07-05-2015 9:55am

Just watching last night's.

"I feel like we've been stupid to sit out in that heat."

Wow - do you think:rolleyes:. If they were children someone would phone social services.

Some of them must have done "management games" in the past. They need a leader, even if its on rotation.

Addle · 07-05-2015 10:06am

razorblunt wrote: »

It's the lack of bedding I still can't get my head around. When they had to de-tick each other last night the closeup should one ladies' hand completely covered in bites.

Do they have toilet paper?
They must have toiletries. I haven't.noticed any hairy pits.

Buona Fortuna · 07-05-2015 11:02am

Addle wrote: »

Do they have toilet paper?
They must have toiletries. I haven't.noticed any hairy pits.

Do they have sun tan cream? Some of the women tend to redhead / very pale skin. Yet no one seems bothered in the slightest about sitting in the sun for a few hours.

BaZmO* · 07-05-2015 11:12am

Buona Fortuna wrote: »

Do they have sun tan cream? Some of the women tend to redhead / very pale skin. Yet no one seems bothered in the slightest about sitting in the sun for a few hours.

The men definitely do as I've seen clips of them applying it.

It would make sense to ensure that they have some protection as it would open the producers up to future claims of neglect.

somesoldiers · 07-05-2015 11:22am

BaZmO* wrote: »

The men definitely do as I've seen clips of them applying it.

It would make sense to ensure that they have some protection as it would open the producers up to future claims of neglect.

Yes I saw some of the guys apply it too assuming the women have also

razorblunt · 07-05-2015 11:55am

Ha, I thought they were doing something with the sand as a form of protection!

Alkers · 07-05-2015 12:51pm

It would be better I'd they explained in detail somewhere what exactly they were all allowed to bring in terms of toiletries, clothes etc. There is obviously quite a lit going on in the background that isn't explained like the medics getting constant updates etc. I don't know why this is hidden as it in itself is quite interesting as to how the whole thing is organised.
I would also like to see a bit more detail of what the daily chores entail and the progress they make in creating their camp. I see the women now seem to have a table but it was never mentioned? Can't believe they haven't even made beds yet! They are really only hanging on as opposed to being able to survive indefinitely on their island.

BaZmO* · 07-05-2015 1:25pm

Simona1986 wrote: »

It would be better I'd they explained in detail somewhere what exactly they were all allowed to bring in terms of toiletries, clothes etc. There is obviously quite a lit going on in the background that isn't explained like the medics getting constant updates etc. I don't know why this is hidden as it in itself is quite interesting as to how the whole thing is organised.
I would also like to see a bit more detail of what the daily chores entail and the progress they make in creating their camp. I see the women now seem to have a table but it was never mentioned? Can't believe they haven't even made beds yet! They are really only hanging on as opposed to being able to survive indefinitely on their island.

I suppose it's all dependent on what they film. It's hard to tell a story if there's no footage of it.

pooch90 · 07-05-2015 4:57pm

Addle wrote: »

Do they have toilet paper?
They must have toiletries. I haven't.noticed any hairy pits.

I was thinking too,that they must supply toiletries,especially with women and time of the month.

Addle · 07-05-2015 5:21pm

pooch90 wrote: »

I was thinking too,that they must supply toiletries,especially with women and time of the month.

You couldn't be dealing with periods out there.
I'd run on packets of the pill or something to defer it.

pooch90 · 07-05-2015 5:24pm

Addle wrote: »

You couldn't be dealing with periods out there.
I'd run on packets of the pill or something to defer it.

Just with Jaime talking about PMT it had me wondering. Not all of them could be on the pill.

mikom · 07-05-2015 5:29pm

They have no periods since househero got up on all of them......

househero wrote: »

If you left me on an island with women... Even ugly old ones. They would all be leaving pregnant. And I would be fighting the other men for dominance. #itsNaturesWay

moleyv · 07-05-2015 9:19pm

Is it not on tonight?

evilivor · 07-05-2015 9:21pm

moleyv wrote: »

Is it not on tonight?

Nope, Election coverage instead.

somesoldiers · 13-05-2015 9:43pm

Am finding this very hard to believe...one lads a waster, then he comes good, saves the day....déjà vu

BettePorter · 13-05-2015 9:49pm

hmmm call me cynical but very convenient they all suddenly decided to collect the previously frowned upon nets as a group effort on the one occasion it happens to be full of fish!

deco nate · 13-05-2015 9:49pm

The fish were alive, if they were planted by the crew they'd be dead

deco nate · 13-05-2015 9:58pm

Holy crap, that was nasty!!

razorblunt · 13-05-2015 10:01pm

Lucky thats all it was, could have done some serious damage to himself.
He's going to look back and think WTF was I doing!

BettePorter · 13-05-2015 10:05pm

deco nate wrote:

The fish were alive, if they were planted by the crew they'd be dead

no no I don't mean they were planted ..... I mean the situation regarding them all suddenly helping to check the nets was done cause they'd obviously found it full earlier and concocted the whole ' oh lets all go pull them in ' bit for a feel good telly moment.

deco nate · 13-05-2015 10:16pm

BettePorter wrote: »

no no I don't mean they were planted ..... I mean the situation regarding them all suddenly helping to check the nets was done cause they'd obviously found it full earlier and concocted the whole ' oh lets all go pull them in ' bit for a feel good telly moment.

Ah got ya

I thought the posh lad swam out to check the nets saw the fish, then went back to camp and got them to help. Knowing it would be a huge pick me up for the camp

Thargor · 13-05-2015 10:28pm

I know it has its issues but I look forward to this programme more than Survivor or Game of Thrones or Mad Men etc, and we get a double helping of it every week, it has to be renewed for a third series.

EoghanIRL · 13-05-2015 11:27pm

Thargor wrote: »

I know it has its issues but I look forward to this programme more than Survivor or Game of Thrones or Mad Men etc, and we get a double helping of it every week, it has to be renewed for a third series.

+1 , everyone in the house looks forward to it every week.

They were actually quite mean to Sam today. It seems like they are all happy to criticise but more than happy to accept food when it comes their way.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 13-05-2015 11:33pm

Vic annoys me. Can't stand his prejudices against anyone who isn't working class. Class wars annoy me at the best of times, but they're on an effing remote island and currently going through the same gruelling experience - who cares what side of the tracks someone is from. Also, as much as brawn and hard graft is indeed an important element in such a situation, the complete disregard for someone using their brains and intellect to at least attempt to make life easier for everyone is disheartening. Was glad that there was 21 fish there, because Sam deserved that moment for being attacked because of his background.

zoobizoo · 14-05-2015 8:50am

I felt that the editing of the sunset scene was also odd.

There was rain in the camp and everyone bar Sam was working - he was standing looking at the sunset on his own. It just felt that two separate times were edited together to make it look like Sam was faffing around.

The Island - Bear Grylls

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