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The Island - Bear Grylls

  • 01-05-2014 1:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-island-with-bear-grylls

    Starts next week, looks very promising especiallly for any other Survivor fans that hang around here.

    13 amateurs dumped on an island and left to fend for themselves, hopefully it'll be as realistic as possible but with Bear Grylls involved its hard to know, he can be very irritating the way he's always stumbling across old boats, ropes, bow and arrow making materials etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    Thargor wrote: »
    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-island-with-bear-grylls

    Starts next week, looks very promising especiallly for any other Survivor fans that hang around here.

    13 amateurs dumped on an island and left to fend for themselves, hopefully it'll be as realistic as possible but with Bear Grylls involved its hard to know, he can be very irritating the way he's always stumbling across old boats, ropes, bow and arrow making materials etc.

    He had a reality show on NBC last summer (advertised as a Survivor like show) which was absolute cack - I'd imagine this to be a UK version of that format. Hope I'm wrong though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Ah right, didnt know that. Not surprised though I dont really like the guy even though survival is my fav tv genre. At least theres new eps of Naked and Marooned.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Just watched the first episode,
    It's very good.
    It's not a game show in any
    Way and bear is not with them,
    Only time you see him is when
    He's talking about the things
    The lads are going through.
    Definitely gonna watch the
    Rest of this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    That was brilliant, love the ex-cop guy, he should be entertaining. Looking forward to seeing them when the food and water starts to run out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Yea, going starkers into the sea. :)
    I can see a lot of arguments
    Happening. The telesales guy
    Has done nothing but moan.
    Can't wait for next week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Watched the first episode of this and enjoyed it, very not gameshow.

    I was surprised at how little resources they were given to start, I kinda thought they'd at least be put by a stream with fresh water. It really is going for the proper abandoned on an island approach.

    And just the right amount of Bear also, too much of him can get sometimes get annoying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Jaysus Christ, many of the participants wearing glasses and numerous glass bottles washed up on the beach yet they spent a whole day with a bow trying to start a fire.
    They'll probably be feasting on each others brains by the end of the week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Watched it and liked it.

    Refreshing to see it's not a gameshow - no one will be "voted off" it seems.

    I think the ex-policeman is a bit power-hungry, likes the sound of his own voice.

    I know it's edited, but you wonder what the other 8 were doing while 5 of them made fire.

    I'm looking forward to how they sort themselves out "politically". Although perhaps a month is too short a time for this. Does everyone get an equal say? Who distributes jobs? etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    Watched it and liked it.

    Refreshing to see it's not a gameshow - no one will be "voted off" it seems.

    I think the ex-policeman is a bit power-hungry, likes the sound of his own voice.

    I know it's edited, but you wonder what the other 8 were doing while 5 of them made fire.

    I'm looking forward to how they sort themselves out "politically". Although perhaps a month is too short a time for this. Does everyone get an equal say? Who distributes jobs? etc

    It's up to them to sort it between them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    deco nate wrote: »
    It's up to them to sort it between them

    I know, I'd like to see how they do it though! I'd say there are a few strong characters (aka bullies) lurking in there.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    I know, I'd like to see how they do it though! I'd say there are a few strong characters (aka bullies) lurking in there.

    It looks real, I suspect a lot of these reality survivor type shows are fake or semo-faked
    like a lot of "reality" tv

    They seem to have selected a few "weak" characters as well just to cause tensions I assume , There is clearly a few people that should not be there.
    I won't name names

    Most of the quality work is being done by just two or three of them

    Catching and killing the Cayman was intense I was not excepting that( i thought they where going to run away)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    hmmm?

    Forbes
    Bear Grylls: Is He Misleading TV Viewers Again?

    Seven minutes in to the programme, Grylls’s narration added: ‘Three of the men are trained as cameramen. But they will be living under exactly the same conditions as everyone else. In their bags are just camera kit, and medical supplies.’

    All of this is true, but it is not the full story. Of those 13 ‘ordinary British men’:

    * One is Rupert Smith. Ten years ago, Smith was the series producer and director of a series called Escape to the Legion, also presented by Bear Grylls, for Channel 4. He also made a non-broadcast pilot of another Bear Grylls show for Channel 4, called Angel Falls. Smith is an experienced factual TV professional, most recently as a director on the US version of the BBC’s Top Gear.

    * Another is Dan Etheridge. Etheridge is an experienced TV cameraman and cinematographer. He too has worked with Grylls before, on at least three episodes of another Bear Grylls series, Discovery Channel’s Man vs Wild.

    * A third is sound recordist Kiff McManus, who was nominated for a Bafta craft award last year as part of the British Top Gear team.

    * And the fourth embedded crew member is Matt Bennett, an experienced documentary producer who worked on the series Ross Kemp in Afghanistan for BSkyB in the UK

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/neilmidgley/2014/05/10/bear-grylls-is-he-misleading-tv-viewers-again/2/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Who cares? If you dont have professionals behind the camera it will look like something your father filmed on his phone at a wedding, as long as they're having to forage and not eating from a food van every day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    I agree.

    Having the whole thing recorded by amateur camramen would be unwatchable. These guys clearly know how to set up a shot and capture what's important/entertaining.

    As long as they're getting no special treatment it's fair enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    My minor gripe is about the rubbish that washed up on the shore, really a load of toothbrushes is normal flotsam and jetsam?

    Looks like the next show is the start of "Lord of the Flies"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    Funnily enough my parents house is on the West coast and there are a lot of toothbrushes on the shore, same for flip flops, and the West Coast of Ireland is pristine by international standards when it comes to plastic waste washing in. In the last series of Naked and Marooned he found a good toothbrush aswell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    Yes. Plastic is near indestructible left floating in the sea.

    It is very typical, unfortunetly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    I thought Ryan's need to see the cayman being killed was a bit odd.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    RosieJoe wrote: »
    I thought Ryan's need to see the cayman being killed was a bit odd.

    Sometimes he seems like a likeable guy who you'd hope would get the most out of the adventure - other times he just seems like an awful waster.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    RosieJoe wrote: »
    I thought Ryan's need to see the cayman being killed was a bit odd.

    A bit different from Far Cry 3 for him I'd say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭pooch90


    Think he leaves next week, hope so.
    Whingy little brat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭DubOnHoliday


    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/bear-grylls-survival-show-accused-of-fakery-30279677.html

    No surprise really. I thought the scene with the 'Cayman' looked staged, the animal already had a bloody nose when they first spotted it. Plus the constant moaning is unbearable.

    How hard can it be to make a decent survial show....You'd think BG would have all the knowledge at this stage to get it right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39 Mark Oxford


    Difficult to work out.

    Grills is on a winner though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    ryan is a nutter


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭RosieJoe


    ryan is a nutter

    Nutter is one way of putting it! Showman would be another. Or even gobshíte. Let's go for a ramble muttering things like not making it and thanking his mother for life :confused:

    I wonder if there are Psychologists/Councillors on call in the background to help them get through certain situations? It was a bit strange that it went from baying for Ryan's blood to "babying" him. I know it was good for the group that they did, and better for Ryan, but I felt it was a bit staged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭LETS BE AVN IT


    http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/tv-radio/bear-grylls-survival-show-accused-of-fakery-30279677.html

    No surprise really. I thought the scene with the 'Cayman' looked staged, the animal already had a bloody nose when they first spotted it. Plus the constant moaning is unbearable.

    How hard can it be to make a decent survial show....You'd think BG would have all the knowledge at this stage to get it right.

    They admitted that they did all that before the show even aired in fairness , even had a detailed video explaining it all and how they choose the island in the run up to the first episode.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    ryan is a nutter

    His missus is daycent though.
    I was like wtf when I saw her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    mikom wrote: »
    His missus is daycent though.
    I was like wtf when I saw her.
    Ditto, the boyo must have a
    Big Wang on him! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    mikom wrote: »
    His missus is daycent though.
    I was like wtf when I saw her.

    Yeah. It was hard to believe alright!

    He's a drama queen, no doubt about that. But probably good for the group (and the drama) overall.

    His chats about unicorm meat ("it's just spam with glitter in") and tears of joy that can be bought on the internet are priceless.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    In danger of running out of steam.

    Last night's episode was fine, but engineered to hate on the big cayman-hunter guy (who seems like an eejit).

    Next week (the last episode?) has an election....something that maybe should have happened in episode 1.

    It looks like they've mostly figured out now that they're not going to DIE on the island so some have taken to just laying about topping up the sun-tan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    That young guy Ryan really wanted to see a turtle.

    The Alpha-male, Robert or Rupert, seems a bit of a dick.

    As for the lazy lads who don't do anything to help out - why are they even there?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    zoobizoo wrote: »
    That young guy Ryan really wanted to see a turtle.

    The Alpha-male, Robert or Rupert, seems a bit of a dick.

    As for the lazy lads who don't do anything to help out - why are they even there?

    Yes, he wanted to see it, but sure they were only mid-way through. He could have just resolved to get up every night and go walking along the beach for 2 hours to try to see one. Instead he had a hissy fit.

    Agree on Rupert. The abrupt cut to him exercising in LA was rediculous. Mid-life crisis anyone?

    Agree on the lazy lads. As I said, they've figured out that they're not going to die on the island so are content to laze around in the sun until the boat comes for them. Sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    Would have been interesting if they asked the group to divide themselves into teams for the final week and see who would have joined who.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    Next week (the last episode?) has an election....something that maybe should have happened in episode 1.

    Two final episodes next week for the finale, the last regular episode followed by a 'Surviving the Island' episode where Bear meets with the men to explore how they coped and how the experience has affected them. Bear also reveals the secrets of how the show was made


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    It has been renewed for a second season too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Would be cool if in the last episode Bear shows us what the team could have done to gather food and water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    Would be cool if in the last episode Bear shows us what the team could have done to gather food and water.

    I'd imagine he will on the after-show episode, would be interesting to hear alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭DubOnHoliday


    Would be cool if in the last episode Bear shows us what the team could have done to gather food and water.

    This ^.

    In terms of survival, they haven't done anything bar light a fire, catch a few fish and get some coconuts.
    They've drank water that was prepared for them and killed a animal that was provided for them.
    I've been waiting for a good storm to expose their lack of shelter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    NUTZZ wrote: »
    It has been renewed for a second season too.

    Expect to see an all ladies version so I guess. Interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭cactuspaw


    Love this show, love most things that show leadership and group development. Wish they would show us more of each persons background each week then showing the same people (call centre boy , director guy, doctor, hairdresser guy) all the time. I would love to see how the older men deal with the experience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    deco nate wrote: »
    Just watched the first episode,
    It's very good.
    It's not a game show in any
    Way and bear is not with them,
    Only time you see him is when
    He's talking about the things
    The lads are going through.
    Definitely gonna watch the
    Rest of this!
    deco nate wrote: »
    Yea, going starkers into the sea. :)
    I can see a lot of arguments
    Happening. The telesales guy
    Has done nothing but moan.
    Can't wait for next week
    Your poems are terrible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    40,000 people apply for season 2 of The Island after just one day!

    Source


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    Expect to see an all ladies version so I guess. Interesting.

    No they're looking for 13 male applicants again for season 2 according to Channel 4.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,678 ✭✭✭I Heart Internet


    NUTZZ wrote: »
    No they're looking for 13 male applicants again for season 2 according to Channel 4.

    I think I'd be good on it. Maybe I'll apply!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    So they're accepting male and female applicants for Season 2 it appears, got the application email;
    Hi,

    Thank you for your interest in The Island with Bear Grylls.

    If you would like to be considered for a place on The Island you will need to apply using our online application system. To be eligible you must be:

    - Aged 18 or over
    - A UK Resident with a valid passport
    - Available for seven weeks between 17th October – 5th December 2014
    (Please note that you will need to be able to take this amount of time off work although you will be entitled to payment of reasonable and evidenced loss of earnings from this period.)

    Please do not apply unless you can meet all of the above eligibility criteria. You must only apply for yourself.

    This year we are considering applications from both men and women, so please click on the appropriate link below to proceed:

    WOMEN: apply.shinegroup.tv/theislandwomen/index.apply

    MEN: apply.shinegroup.tv/theislandmen/index.apply

    Important: The closing date for applications is Monday 21st July 2014. Any submitted after this date may not be considered.

    If your application is successful, you will be invited for the next stage of the application process in August. Please note that, due to the number of applications, we are only able to respond to successful applicants.

    All data will be stored in accordance with the Data Protection Act 1998.

    Best Wishes

    The Island with Bear Grylls Team


    Please do not reply to this email.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭NUTZZ


    The Island Season 2



    Last time, 13 men were dropped on a remote Pacific island.

    This year, there will be 14 men on one island... and 14 women on another.

    Both groups will spend six weeks trying to survive on little more than their wits.

    It’ll answer the age-old question of who is made of stronger stuff, men or women, as it pushes both genders to their limits.

    And, according to Bear, it will make Mission Survive look like child’s play...

    What can viewers expect?

    We’ve taken The Island to a whole new level.

    We extended the time they spend there by 50 per cent – which turned out to be borderline too long – and it’s during the rainy season, too.

    Why the decision to have a separate women’s island this year?

    So many people wanted to see it and we listened to that.

    The first series was a study of modern man under pressure. The second is a study of men and women.

    Could you predict how they’d behave?

    No. Nobody could call the results.

    Everybody asked, “What do you think will happen?”
    And I just didn’t know. I was shocked by how few on either island made it to the end and also by how close the women came to literally not being able to continue.

    It was that close, medically.

    How were the men and women different?

    Men grow up wanting to make camps but that’s not always the case for women.

    So it took them longer to figure this stuff out, which meant they did go through greater physical hardships.

    How much training do you give them?

    Just a couple of days because I didn’t want survival experts on the island.

    This is meant to be regular people – the builder, the doctor, the accountant – who learn through mistakes.

    So we give them enough training to stay alive and not hack their legs off with a machete.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,061 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    First one was alright actually, a lot of them were a mess after it, that little bitch was entertaining aswell. Looking forward to this thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,406 ✭✭✭pooch90


    God some of the men are right muppets, hate all the alpha male posturing crap.
    Be interesting to compare and contrast with the women's island. I don't think the women will be very competent off the bat but may be a more cohesive team than the bickering men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,507 ✭✭✭Buona Fortuna


    pooch90 wrote: »
    God some of the men are right muppets, hate all the alpha male posturing crap.
    Be interesting to compare and contrast with the women's island. I don't think the women will be very competent off the bat but may be a more cohesive team than the bickering men.

    Yes. Makes me wonder if its "just for the camera"

    I enjoyed last nights but I wonder if I'll stick with it for 6 weeks. I mean FFS "I know we've got no water, nowhere to sleep and no food, but I don't like you for no obvious reason so I'm going to carry on bickering and arguing."

    The big guy, construction contracts manager, just seemed to keep raising issues without any attempt to solve anything - maybe thats what he's used to doing?

    Tonights should be interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,625 ✭✭✭✭BaZmO*


    I was just amazed at the amount of them that seemed to break after just one day without sleep or food. Surely if you were picked to go on something like this you would go off somewhere beforehand and practice doing some rough camping (something like Oxegen for the weekend perhaps! :) ).
    Nah, better to wait until you're the other side of the world, miles from civilisation, to discover that you hate sleeping out doors and you can't go a day without pizza!


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