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    #1802
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    ThebitterLemon wrote: »
    Where will Potters proposed Lakeside “World Champ” fit with all of this or has that idea died away?

    TbL

    Looks like that is gone, seems as if it was just a dig at the BDO by Potter.


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    #1803
    NoviGlitzko
    Registered Users Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭NoviGlitzko


    Does anyone know of any sites to get PL darts tickets for Dublin that aren't 120e +? That's all I can find at the minute. Would love to go but can't bring myself to pay that.


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    #1804
    boomdocker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭boomdocker


    keep an eye on toutless.ie - likely to have some nearer the time
    Rules there are for face-value only selling....


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    #1805
    NoviGlitzko
    Registered Users Posts: 2,580 ✭✭✭NoviGlitzko


    boomdocker wrote: »
    keep an eye on toutless.ie - likely to have some nearer the time
    Rules there are for face-value only selling....
    Thanks a lot. :)


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    #1806
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Disappointed but expected. What a waste of talent

    https://twitter.com/livedarts/status/1217935398732750848?s=19


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    #1807
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Yeah total waste as he definitely has the talent but unfortunately he seems more interested in breaking the law than playing darts.

    There's no way he would be given a Visa to enter the UK at this stage.


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    #1808
    Bob Harris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    Kingp35 wrote: »
    Yeah total waste as he definitely has the talent but unfortunately he seems more interested in breaking the law than playing darts.

    There's no way he would be given a Visa to enter the UK at this stage.

    The way he carries on I wouldn't give him a visa card.


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    #1809
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    WDF World Championship and WDF world masters announced plus loads of other events. Looks good. Bye bye Des.

    https://www.dartswdf.com/


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    #1810
    diusmr8a504cvk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    Random thought:

    Adrian Lewis is a millionaire, he should really get a shave and a haircut.


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    #1811
    jr86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Kyler Eager Towel wrote: »
    Random thought:

    Adrian Lewis is a millionaire, he should really get a shave and a haircut.

    :D:D:D

    Was actually only watching some of his old matches recently

    What a player in his pomp.

    He is in some state health wise, was surely always going to catch up on him at some stage.

    The worst part is he's a relatively very young man


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    #1812
    US2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭US2


    Fallon on off the ball this morning. Usual crap wants more spots for women in tournaments and wants a women's tour.. not a mention of Ashton

    https://youtu.be/jRIKjaCyw7c


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    #1813
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Womens tour is an awful idea. They won't improve playing each other, they'll only improve by playing better players. Two spots in the Grand Slam and the Worlds is plenty.

    They have opportunities to play the Challenge Tour and Euro Qualifiers to qualify for tournaments and potentially a tour card through them.

    Luckily the PDC has absolutely no intention of setting up a womens tour.


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    #1814
    mackeire
    Registered Users Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭mackeire


    US2 wrote: »
    Fallon on off the ball this morning. Usual crap wants more spots for women in tournaments and wants a women's tour.. not a mention of Ashton

    https://youtu.be/jRIKjaCyw7c

    I thought that she handled herself very well there. Obviously the focus of the interview is going to the on women's darts, but she made fair points, saying she thinks that the women should be competing with the men but most wouldn't be confident enough.

    Can you imagine Paula Jacklin or someone like that trying to make a living in the PDC.... Not a hope!

    Interviewer didn't ask about Ashton.


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    #1815
    Tarzann
    Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭Tarzann


    Lisa Ashton and co often say "The women raise their game when playing the men".
    What she really means is "Playing a higher standard of player helps my average also because they will clean up in legs when I miss a lot of doubles, and when they have a REALLY good leg the majority of my darts thrown were in the scoring rather than finishing phase of the leg".

    I'm delighted she got a Tour Card btw, just misunderstanding re averages really annoy me!


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    #1816
    Bob Harris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    Tarzann wrote: »
    Lisa Ashton and co often say "The women raise their game when playing the men".
    What she really means is "Playing a higher standard of player helps my average also because they will clean up in legs when I miss a lot of doubles, and when they have a REALLY good leg the majority of my darts thrown were in the scoring rather than finishing phase of the leg".

    I'm delighted she got a Tour Card btw, just misunderstanding re averages really annoy me!

    They often seem blind to what's behind the averages -as you say a player who hasn't thrown a dart at double could be well up in the 90's.

    Another thing they never mention is the number of visits. it's always the 12 dart or 13 dart leg from Mardle and Harrington. The difference is huge...one is a 4 visit leg, the other is 5.

    A 13/14 or 15 dart leg is exactly the same if you win the leg that visit. 15 darts might drag the average down but players in a proper match don't give a hoot, they want legs on the board not good losing stats.


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    #1817
    DEFTLEFTHAND
    Registered Users Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Ashton is a top player and deserves her card. She'll earn a few quid on the tour over the next two years and may even retain her tour card.

    Sky should be celebrating her and not Sherrock. Fallon pulled out of the BDO champs because her management told her to do so. It wasn't about prize money.


    They knew the damage she could cause to her recently acquired 'image' if she came up against superior female players such as Ashton or Suzuki.


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    #1818
    diusmr8a504cvk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    I think most people here agree that there's too many participants in the world darts championship, but how many do you think should be in it and what qualifies a player?

    If you look at 2007 it was a 64 man field consisting of the top 32 in the order of merit, 16 pdpa qualifiers and 16 international qualifiers which is a fair enough spread.

    Any input?


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    #1819
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 37,894 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Kyler Eager Towel wrote: »
    I think most people here agree that there's too many participants in the world darts championship, but how many do you think should be in it and what qualifies a player?

    If you look at 2007 it was a 64 man field consisting of the top 32 in the order of merit, 16 pdpa qualifiers and 16 international qualifiers which is a fair enough spread.

    Any input?

    The more games the more money for the PDC

    They struck gold this year with Sherlock's publicity. If it's anything more players/games could be added to it


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    #1820
    diusmr8a504cvk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    The more games the more money for the PDC

    They struck gold this year with Sherlock's publicity. If it's anything more players/games could be added to it
    I'm not asking why there's so many games or if they'll add more, I'm asking people on here how many they would like to see :rolleyes:


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    #1821
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Kyler Eager Towel wrote: »
    I think most people here agree that there's too many participants in the world darts championship,




    You call yourself a darts fan yet seem to think more players getting a pay day
    more players getting tv time and exposure, to which leads to experience is a bad thing ?


    If the Worlds went to 128 I still would watch,

    The world champs serves to promote the game as well


    TV companies are happier it runs longer
    fans are happier there is more opportunities to attend
    players are happy to be involved
    Sponsors of players are happy to be getting exposure.


    Never understood this mentality that players playing on tv is a bad thing


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    #1822
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    I don't think there's too many players in Worlds. 96 is a good number, I think if you went to 128 it would dilute the standard too much.


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    #1823
    mackeire
    Registered Users Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭mackeire


    128 players, round robin format.

    4 players in each group with only group winners qualify for last 32.

    No walk one during the group stages, just a conveyor belt of games!

    Each player gets 3 short format matches and goes home happy, while the group winners battle it out to be world champion!


    Nothing like the grand slam ?!!!


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    #1824
    Stewball
    Registered Users Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Stewball


    The more live darts (decent standard) on TV the better IMO.


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    #1825
    Kingp35
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,253 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kingp35


    Stewball wrote: »
    The more live darts (decent standard) on TV the better IMO.

    I would agree except I would say the more live ranked tournament darts on TV the better.


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    #1826
    Stewball
    Registered Users Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Stewball


    Kingp35 wrote: »
    I would agree except I would say the more live ranked tournament darts on TV the better.

    Yeah, good point.
    The likes of the PDC Masters coming up at the weekend and the Premier League don't really fill me with excitement.

    I much prefer tournaments like the UK Open.


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    #1827
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    Stewball wrote: »
    The more live darts (decent standard) on TV the better IMO.


    absolutely.


    More players getting a pay day the better.


    Also as I said earlier, Ally Pally is also there to promote the game and help it grow worldwide.
    No one can deny the prelim matches each year have got better in terms of quality.


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    #1828
    sc86
    Registered Users Posts: 2,880 ✭✭✭sc86


    Kyler Eager Towel wrote: »
    I think most people here agree that there's too many participants in the world darts championship, but how many do you think should be in it and what qualifies a player?

    If you look at 2007 it was a 64 man field consisting of the top 32 in the order of merit, 16 pdpa qualifiers and 16 international qualifiers which is a fair enough spread.

    Any input?

    thats a des jacklin idea if ever i seen one


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    #1829
    diusmr8a504cvk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,959 ✭✭✭diusmr8a504cvk


    sc86 wrote: »
    thats a des jacklin idea if ever i seen one
    Except it was in the PDC, so it wasn't a Des Jacklin move.

    I asked what people thought would be their ideal number of participants and I got one actual answer with the rest being criticism for asking a question.

    Justin Credible, if you think me wanting a smaller field at the world championship makes me being a legitimate darts fan questionable, then what does calling a darts presenter with Parkinsons "a shaking sack of sh*t" make you?


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    #1830
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users Posts: 13,311 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    If you think 32 or 64 is your ideal number for the Worlds, then you can just watch from that point onwards. I haven't watched a whole lot myself the last few years until the best of 7 sets in the last 32, and then I gorge on it after Christmas.

    Clearly 96 is working though, sell out crowds in an event perfectly timed for the pre-Christmas party market.


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    #1831
    Justin Credible Darts
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Justin Credible Darts


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    If you think 32 or 64 is your ideal number for the Worlds, then you can just watch from that point onwards.


    no no no...that would be the logical thing for someone like him who obviously does not the larger field.


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