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Judgement day for Maria Bailey.

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    #572
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    To be fair paddy you’ve been here just as long and trying to downplay and laugh off the whole thing as a nothing.

    And look where bailey is now.

    The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

    FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

    The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

    The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.


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    #573
    Bobtheman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    So the alternative is vote FG again? Why ?


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    #574
    Stop moaning ffs
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

    FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

    The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

    The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.


    Well that definitely a take. A funny one.

    FG didn’t deal with it at all. They ignored it and then tried to bury it.

    That’s not a good look to the party.

    And no the public aren’t happy with them at all.

    And you’ve just said that anyone who isn’t buying your line is a shinner and a whinger



    It being Saturday night I guess you’re an entry level young FG member given control of the spin desk for the night. Am I right?

    Make sure today some dinner if you’re gonna be there all night.


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    #575
    Bobtheman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

    FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

    The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

    The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.

    I think you are deluded. FG are marginally ahead of FF. The housing situation remains dire as does health and insurance . Best of luck canvassing with that.
    I do agree with you on whinging independents. Effectively useless


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    #576
    tayto lover
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

    FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

    The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

    The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.

    Seeing that it took them so long to do what needed to be done will the boost be in the election after the next one or even further down the road?


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    #577
    Higgins5473
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    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    It’s a.topic that didn’t go away and FGs trying to bury it and ignore it has backfired in spectacular fashion.

    It’s not a focus on one td. This is going to hurt them and badly in this coming election.

    I'm not sure they tried to bury it. i think Bailey made an absolute mess of the whole thing herself, including the last few days and subsequent dismissal. If it was a witch hunt and the press going after her Madigan should go down with her. In fact I think Madigan should be gone more so, Bailey is thick, she took bad advice.


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    #578
    _Kaiser_
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    The DLRD branch made their decision and the executive accepted it. That's democracy. Happy to see the back of MB to be honest.

    FG can draw a line under this. They'll likely get a nice boost in the polls for demonstrating that they can deal with things like this internally.

    The largest party in the country continues to sell well with the people.

    The message of the shinners and whingers is not resonating with Joe Public.

    Honestly now, I really don't know whether you actually believe this stuff or whether you're just that out of touch with the mood of the public on this and many other core issues that have gotten worse under FG's "leadership" in the last 9 years.

    I seem to recall you saying that FG were drawing a line under this issue before and yet here we are. Equally ridiculous is the nonsensical idea that anyone who has an issue with FG or its representatives is a "shinner" or a "whinger".

    You haven't a notion what Joe Public wants mate. It's certainly not more arrogant hypocrisy and corruption from FG - as I've said many times here, all FG are really good for in the final analysis is reminding us that they're worse than FF (which is why they ALWAYS - just as they have this time - make them electable again)

    All you're ACTUALLY achieving with posts like the above, is proving the point.


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    #579
    Stop moaning ffs
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    Sell well with the people you said.

    This is going to haunt him to the rest of his political career. Not that it will bother him personally at all. We know it won’t.

    But statements like these are exactly why FG have ruined the country in a whole new way that we won’t recover from.

    https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1195766250934284288?s=21


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    #580
    It wasnt me123
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    Higgins5473 wrote: »
    I'm not sure they tried to bury it. i think Bailey made an absolute mess of the whole thing herself, including the last few days and subsequent dismissal. If it was a witch hunt and the press going after her Madigan should go down with her. In fact I think Madigan should be gone more so, Bailey is thick, she took bad advice

    She isn’t thick - she is very savvy but arrogant - she didn’t get bad advice - she lied on legal documents and then signed them.

    Do not make excuses for greed and arrogance


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    #581
    Millionaire only not
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    It wasnt me123 wrote: »
    She isn’t thick - she is very savvy but arrogant - she didn’t get bad advice - she lied on legal documents and then signed them.

    Do not make excuses for greed and arrogance

    And it’s a disgrace if she gets elected!

    She’s gone good riddance, get over it move on , we’ve all made mistakes we have to live with !


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    #582
    high_king
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    Millionaire only not wrote: »
    And it’s a disgrace if she gets elected!

    Corrupt politicians often top the poll in Ireland, always have, lots of people secretly love them as it reminds them of themselves.


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    #583
    Pintman Paddy Losty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Honestly now, I really don't know whether you actually believe this stuff or whether you're just that out of touch with the mood of the public on this and many other core issues that have gotten worse under FG's "leadership" in the last 9 years.

    I seem to recall you saying that FG were drawing a line under this issue before and yet here we are. Equally ridiculous is the nonsensical idea that anyone who has an issue with FG or its representatives is a "shinner" or a "whinger".

    You haven't a notion what Joe Public wants mate. It's certainly not more arrogant hypocrisy and corruption from FG - as I've said many times here, all FG are really good for in the final analysis is reminding us that they're worse than FF (which is why they ALWAYS - just as they have this time - make them electable again)

    All you're ACTUALLY achieving with posts like the above, is proving the point.

    Talking rubbish as usual.

    You make out like FG are hated up and down the country. Au contraire. They are the most popular party in the country. More voters like FG than any other party. People value steady and reasoned policies. They also transfer extremely well.

    Here's how things are going to play out.

    MB story is more or less done now. Old news. Leo and Simon will do a great job with brexit in the new year. They'll continue to rise in the polls. There'll be an election called in late March. Michael Martin will be shown for the slippery populist he is. FG will be the largest party. Reduced number of TDs but will form a coalition with the greens, Labour and independents.

    FG aren't going anywhere. No matter how much you bluster.


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    #584
    FrancieBrady
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

    MB story is more or less done now. Old news. .

    Don't ever sign up for the party strategist job anyhow...you were saying the above in May! :):)


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    #585
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    Talking rubbish as usual.

    You make out like FG are hated up and down the country. Au contraire. They are the most popular party in the country. More voters like FG than any other party. People value steady and reasoned policies. They also transfer extremely well.

    Here's how things are going to play out.

    MB story is more or less done now. Old news. Leo and Simon will do a great job with brexit in the new year. They'll continue to rise in the polls. There'll be an election called in late March. Michael Martin will be shown for the slippery populist he is. FG will be the largest party. Reduced number of TDs but will form a coalition with the greens, Labour and independents.

    FG aren't going anywhere. No matter how much you bluster.

    I remember your prediction that the MB story would be a footnote come the Summer, I'd be inclined to ignore your predictions of the future tbh .


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    #586
    WishUWereHere
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    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Well that definitely a take. A funny one.

    FG didn’t deal with it at all. They ignored it and then tried to bury it.

    That’s not a good look to the party.

    And no the public aren’t happy with them at all.

    And you’ve just said that anyone who isn’t buying your line is a shinner and a whinger



    It being Saturday night I guess you’re an entry level young FG member given control of the spin desk for the night. Am I right?

    Make sure today some dinner if you’re gonna be there all night.

    OP, ignore this paddy. Either he or his 2 amigos adopted the same ‘you’re a fger or a shinner’ BS on the closed thread.

    They were at least part of the reason the other thread was shut down. Let’s NOT give them the same ammunition to get this one closed also.


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    #587
    McMurphy
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    Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »
    You've been banging this paranoid fantasist drum for months now. Surely it's some elaborate wind up??

    Nothing is "coming out" Johnny! Haha. Get a grip and stop obsessing over this.

    Let's recap shall we.

    I predicted pretty much from day one that this would cost bailey her seat, I also said the attempted burial of the report would come back to bite Leo, and Maria in the arse.

    My next prediction is that this could also ultimately cost Josepha Madigan her position in cabinet and her seat come election time.

    You said repeatedly, and are still trying to proclaim that the story was a non story that will be having a line drawn under it and they'll all move on.

    You started this in May might I add. :D

    Any day now Paddy


    Any day.....


    You're pretty much the worst shill ever.

    3/10 from Mr Dogs I'm afraid.


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    #588
    glenfieldman
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    I could not give a **** if he was straight, gay, black, white or any religion
    But Varadkar is the worst head of state we ever had


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    #589
    Stop moaning ffs
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    glenfieldman wrote: »
    I could not give a **** if he was straight, gay, black, white or any religion
    But Varadkar is the worst head of state we ever had

    Not entirely true.
    He’s doing an incredible and perfect job for the banks vulture funds and investors. He’s doing exactly what they need him to do.

    So he’s a perfect puppet.
    He is an awful Taoiseach though for sure in terms of looking after and actually leading our country.

    Only reason he and Simon have done so well on brexit is they’re under the dictat of all the aforementioned vulture funds and banks and investors.


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    #590
    pablo128
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    Higgins5473 wrote: »
    Bailey is thick, she took bad advice.

    Bailey is greedy, and had a friend with no moral compass send in paperwork to instigate a compensation claim with no merit.

    Not only that hat, when the story broke, she doubled down instead of holding her hands up. Let's not mention the radio interview.

    Do you realise these people are tasked with running our country, while we are at work and paying our taxes and contributing. These politicians are supposed to take that tax money and make the best use of it for the people of Ireland. Instead what we have is a situation where some of them are just in it to line their own pockets and don't give 2 fcuks how they do it.


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    #591
    high_king
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    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Not entirely true.
    He’s doing an incredible and perfect job for the banks vulture funds and investors. He’s doing exactly what they need him to do.

    So he’s a perfect puppet.
    He is an awful Taoiseach though for sure in terms of looking after and actually leading our country.

    Only reason he and Simon have done so well on brexit is they’re under the dictat of all the aforementioned vulture funds and banks and investors.

    Leo, ah come on, be reasonable, he likes cycling and keep fit, has nice socks, goes jogging with Justin Trudeau, and has big birthday parties, that's all that matters.


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    #592
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    high_king wrote: »
    Leo, ah come on, be reasonable, he likes cycling and keep fit, has nice socks, goes jogging with Justin Trudeau, and has big birthday parties, that's all that matters.

    You missed something.

    Really cynically he’s goes out to pantibar and Bernard Shaw and random gigs regularly cos he’s ‘man of the people’.

    100% he’s allowed a private life. And should have one.

    His are always photo ops though. That appear on his official accounts soon after. That politics I guess.

    He may as well put up pics of him kissing a a sick calf in Leitrim.

    Nobody is buying it.


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    #593
    high_king
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    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

    Nobody is buying it.

    Plenty are, including our "trustworthy" "impartial" media of course


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    #594
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    high_king wrote: »
    Plenty are, including our "trustworthy" "impartial" media of course

    Maybe you live overseas. (Haha)

    The media aren’t buying it at all.

    There’s a newspaper called the Irish independent been gunning for him all year.

    I’ll leave you to google that.


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    #595
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »

    There’s a newspaper called the Irish independent been gunning for him all year.

    I’ll leave you to google that.

    you call that criticism ? lol


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    #596
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    high_king wrote: »
    you call that criticism ? lol

    You criticized the Irish times earlier.

    Now you’re going for the independent.

    Please wise mage.

    Share with us your go to wisdom for analysis and criticism of our current government

    I have a feeling it’s the liberal.ie but I’ll spare you the embarrassment and just throw it out there


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    #597
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    You criticized the Irish times earlier.

    Now you’re going for the independent.

    Where did I criticise the Irish times, you wouldn't be telling yet more porkies would you ? Post it.


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    #598
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    high_king wrote: »
    Where did I criticise the Irish times, you wouldn't be telling yet more porkies would you ? Post it.

    You said ‘Irish times? Lol!’

    If it wasn’t you I apologise. Yis all look the same with the constant complaining n all


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    #599
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    You said ‘Irish times? Lol!’

    If it wasn’t you I apologise. Yis all look the same with the constant complaining n all

    You getting caught out making false allegations is your problem not ours.


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    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    high_king wrote: »
    You getting caught out making false allegations is your problem not ours.

    Ours?

    Who is ‘ours’?


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    #601
    high_king
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 418 ✭✭high_king


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Ours?

    Who is ‘ours’?

    All the people you are moaning about, short memory haven't you ?
    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Ours?
    Yis all look the same with the constant complaining n all


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