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Harvey Weinstein scandal (Mod warning in op.)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    Actor Geoffrey Rush (From Pirates of the Carribean) is accused of sexual misconduct by Yael Stone, from Orange is the New Black.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/16/opinion/metoo-defamation-geoffrey-rush-yael-stone.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

    It seems like sexual misconduct allegations are the sex tapes of this decade,Kim Kardashian,Paris Hilton etc all released theirs to further their name,well now lots of actresses seem to be doing the same with this accusations


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    sexmag wrote: »
    It seems like sexual misconduct allegations are the sex tapes of this decade,Kim Kardashian,Paris Hilton etc all released theirs to further their name,well now lots of actresses seem to be doing the same with this accusations

    Jesus Christ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Jesus Christ.
    I'd say the statute of limitations has well passed if there allegations against him.
    Well, unless he comes back........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Kivaro wrote: »
    I'd say the statute of limitations has well passed if there allegations against him.
    Well, unless he comes back........

    It was mostly reciprocal though, he was always doing unto others what he wanted done onto himself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Kivaro wrote: »
    I'd say the statute of limitations has well passed if there allegations against him.
    Well, unless he comes back........

    Be hard to prove if it was him, or the father, or the holy ghost. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    SMILF creator investigated for allegations of misconduct

    https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/frankie-shaw-investigated-by-abc-studios-following-misconduct-claim-on-showtimes-smilf-1203091354/

    Quite a strange case. So the creator and star of the show, Frankie Shaw, (a woman, just to clarify because it left me confused before I'd had my coffee) is alleged to have told actress Samara Weaving that she would have to perform a sex scene completely nude. The instructions were given by Shaw.
    Well, Weaving had originally been told the scene would be filmed in her underwear, as was her male co-star. (And that's how the scene was finally filmed).
    Weaving spoke to her co-star, Rosie O'Donnell, who spoke to one of the producers.
    The whole thing led to an investigation, and Weaving has chosen to leave the show before a possible third season.

    Quite an interesting story-especially when Shaw pulled the 'I believe Dylan Farrow's allegations against Woody Allen'. Seems she has her own skeletons in the closet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Neil Degrasse Tyson's in trouble now-his show just got pulled amid claims of sexual misconduct, and an old rape allegation.

    https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/nat-geo-neil-degrasse-tyson-1203098611/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Neil Degrasse Tyson's in trouble now-his show just got pulled amid claims of sexual misconduct, and an old rape allegation.

    https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/nat-geo-neil-degrasse-tyson-1203098611/

    Is the whole idea of innocent until proven guilty totally gone out of the window?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Is the whole idea of innocent until proven guilty totally gone out of the window?

    No one said he was guilty.

    It's.standard procedure during allegations of any criminal nature that people are placed on paod/administrative leave until the matter is investigated, this is to ensure that there is not witness or defendant tampering/misconduct.

    NDT released a statement a few months back and addressed them,seems like he was aware something might happen so came prepared


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    sexmag wrote: »
    No one said he was guilty.

    It's.standard procedure during allegations of any criminal nature that people are placed on paod/administrative leave until the matter is investigated, this is to ensure that there is not witness or defendant tampering/misconduct.

    While I somewhat agree with you regarding making sure that there is no witness or defendant tampering/misconduct, not showing pre-recorded episodes of a TV show hardly comes into the category of witness or defendant tampering/misconduct.

    Paid suspension of people when they are employees during an investigation is fair. I'm not so sure that fairness applies when people like NDGT are self-employed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    While I somewhat agree with you regarding making sure that there is no witness or defendant tampering/misconduct, not showing pre-recorded episodes of a TV show hardly comes into the category of witness or defendant tampering/misconduct.

    Paid suspension of people when they are employees during an investigation is fair. I'm not so sure that fairness applies when people like NDGT are self-employed.

    I agree with the prerecording but in their eyes it could be a case that the investigation could go on for some time and if they only have 3 out of 15 done then what's the point of showing 3 and waiting for the rest?

    Also the contracts in the states are as long as books and I'm pretty sure there will be a clause about bringing the company into disrepute by actions and suspension of contracts happening during this time of investigation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    sexmag wrote: »
    I agree with the prerecording but in their eyes it could be a case that the investigation could go on for some time and if they only have 3 out of 15 done then what's the point of showing 3 and waiting for the rest?

    Also the contracts in the states are as long as books and I'm pretty sure there will be a clause about bringing the company into disrepute by actions and suspension of contracts happening during this time of investigation

    How would an innocent man be bringing the company into disrepute? Wouldn't you have to wait for a guilty verdict before he could be said to be bringing the company into disrepute?

    I think it's more of a 'We don't want to be associated with a rapist' which smacks of a little bit of prejudgement of guilt to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,303 ✭✭✭sexmag


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    How would an innocent man be bringing the company into disrepute? Wouldn't you have to wait for a guilty verdict before he could be said to be bringing the company into disrepute?

    I think it's more of a 'We don't want to be associated with a rapist' which smacks of a little bit of prejudgement of guilt to me.

    Well it's similar to the Belfast trial, Ulster rugby and the IRFU were all put under the spotlight. Innocent or guilty it's still bringing unwanted and negative attention to the company/brand and contracts would cover this to help the company save face,I'm not saying it's right it's just what it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 349 ✭✭Senature


    I am suspicious that people were axed from shows etc immediately after allegations were made against them because the powers that be were already aware of incidents of "inappropriate behaviour" on or off set by those accused. When it wasn't mainstream knowledge, life could continue as normal, but once allegations were common knowledge, the jig was up and they had to be seen to take some action to try to avoid potential future lawsuits.

    Is it as simple as standard procedure as sexmag says?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Senature wrote: »
    I am suspicious that people were axed from shows etc immediately after allegations were made against them because the powers that be were already aware of incidents of "inappropriate behaviour" on or off set by those accused. When it wasn't mainstream knowledge, life could continue as normal, but once allegations were common knowledge, the jig was up and they had to be seen to take some action to try to avoid potential future lawsuits.

    Is it as simple as standard procedure as sexmag says?

    Well many of them took NDA's as well as large sums of compensation. Unfortunately, an NDA binds you to be quiet-unless some idiot manages to violate that and allow you to speak out.
    Dushku spoke out because she claims the NDA was broken by Moonves and Weatherly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    A US judge has dismissed Ashley Judd’s sexual harassment claim against Weinstein.

    Not surprised. I don’t think we’ll see him on the hook for any of the things he’s accused of. Worst that will happen is that his career has been ruined and his reputation in tatters.

    In the same ballpark, I see Lady Gaga has disowned her 2013 collaboration with R Kelly!! 2013?!?!? There have been allegations and rumours (almost an open secret) against Kelly for at least a couple of decades. Sure he even married the underage Aaliyah. How is that Gaga is only now condemning him??

    It all seems a bit like the odious Meryl Streep instigating a standing ovation for Polanski at the Oscars when full in the knowledge of his convictions to only now, in the current #metoo climate, decide that she’s not that fond of him after all.

    Hypocritical scum, the lot of them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    sexmag wrote: »
    Well it's similar to the Belfast trial, Ulster rugby and the IRFU were all put under the spotlight. Innocent or guilty it's still bringing unwanted and negative attention to the company/brand and contracts would cover this to help the company save face,I'm not saying it's right it's just what it is.




    Bit like hush money being tied to NDAs so? Sure 'tis what it is right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    A US judge has dismissed Ashley Judd’s sexual harassment claim against Weinstein.

    Not surprised. I don’t think we’ll see him on the hook for any of the things he’s accused of. Worst that will happen is that his career has been ruined and his reputation in tatters.

    In the same ballpark, I see Lady Gaga has disowned her 2013 collaboration with R Kelly!! 2013?!?!? There have been allegations and rumours (almost an open secret) against Kelly for at least a couple of decades. Sure he even married the underage Aaliyah. How is that Gaga is only now condemning him??

    It all seems a bit like the odious Meryl Streep instigating a standing ovation for Polanski at the Oscars when full in the knowledge of his convictions to only now, in the current #metoo climate, decide that she’s not that fond of him after all.

    Hypocritical scum, the lot of them!

    Oh completely-and once a song or video is out there, you can't just remove it completely. Anything on the internet stays on the internet.

    She didn't apologise for working with Terry Richardson, mind you-so it's all just distraction.
    Really, this is Gaga trying to get herself an Oscar nomination, and its all part of her 'campaign'. She didn't get a Golden Globe, so she's trying everything to get herself a nod.
    She can get lost.

    Fake as hell that one.She even pulled the 'I was young' thing... She was 27/ 28...that's old enough to have heard about the history, and the rumours of both R Kelly and Terry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    I remember being in school and knowing then that R Kelly was a creep and I’m younger than Gaga and live in the bog arse of Ireland. Of course she knew when she was rubbing shoulders in the same industry as him. Total farce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,358 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    So yet another expose about Bryan Singer has come out. Is this guy ever going to face any sort of consequences or even investigation?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/bryan-singers-accusers-speak-out/580462/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    So yet another expose about Bryan Singer has come out. Is this guy ever going to face any sort of consequences or even investigation?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/bryan-singers-accusers-speak-out/580462/


    Well, the alleged victim would first have to make an official complaint to the police for that to happen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    An ogre like Weinstein is easy to condemn but where is the safe line for men these days? Is the Mike Pence model of minimizing social contact with all females one works with the way to go? At the banter end of things, you might be having a light-hearted conversation with somebody who is secretly appalled by you. It’s tricky. I think men have to be aware that the prospect of meeting attractive young women may have been one unconscious, or not so unconscious, driver for their labours up the career ladder. Most academics, for example, are nobodies outside the workplace so they need to be more vigilant than ever about their behaviour at work and make sure they are behaving appropriately, starting with anybody they supervise, obviously. Reading the relevant policies of the organization in their entirety might be a good idea too. The bar has just been raised quite a bit, and it may take only one accusation to put you in serious trouble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Just try to be sound and not to be a creep and I don't think you'll have that many problems.


  • Site Banned Posts: 79 ✭✭Robert Wolfe


    Arghus wrote: »
    Just try to be sound and good looking and I don't think you'll have that many problems.

    Fixed that for ya.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,638 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Fixed that for ya.

    Life is hard when your harbour bitterness.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    In the Canadian outback, relationships can be complex owing to a basic lack of people. One colleague of mine, for example, did triple duty as my boss, personal physician and friend. You just have to hope that the separate roles stay that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    I’m still surprised creepy Joe Biden hasn’t been brought to task :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Neil Degrasse Tyson's in trouble now-his show just got pulled amid claims of sexual misconduct, and an old rape allegation.

    https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/nat-geo-neil-degrasse-tyson-1203098611/
    seems the investigation is over, life goes on...

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/neil-degrasse-tyson-cleared-nat-geo-investigation-1195140

    "The investigation is complete, and we are moving forward with both StarTalk and Cosmos," Fox and Nat Geo said Friday in a statement. "StarTalk will return to the air with the remaining 13 episodes in April on National Geographic, and both Fox and National Geographic are committed to finding an air date for Cosmos. There will be no further comment."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,504 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    A real man would not shoplift the pootie.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    A real man would not shoplift the pootie.

    He denies the charges, and apparently there's footage of him that corroborates his side of the story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Oh I don't believe a word of her story, just remembered that line from Jerry Maguire.

    Here's a news report with clips from a presser his lawyer gave were he effectively calls her a liar looking for a payday.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    He'll be convicted of nothing.

    World is a boysclub.

    And he will be welcomed back.

    Ladies if you want justice buy a gun.

    Exactly. The footage of him that corroborates his side of the story is more than likely just misogyny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,504 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Irish actress Sarah Greene on Harvey
    The two first met at the 2014 Tony Awards where Greene was nominated as Best Featured Actress in a Play for her role as Helen McCormick in “The Cripple of Inishmaan.”

    Greene recalls that at the Tony Awards, Weinstein told her: “My money’s on you. Ima make you a star."

    “I told him he lost his money because I didn’t win [the Tony]. Then he emailed me and told me he was coming to see [The Ferryman]. We had dinner afterwards, just the two of us. He said, ‘I want to put you in my films.’ The next day, I had two scripts in my hand.”

    Greene says Weinstein never “tried anything” on her, but adds “not then.”

    Eager to end her discussion of Weinstein, Greene said in the interview: “Listen, I don’t want to be associated with him. I knew what he was like. I made sure I wasn’t ever in any hotel rooms with him. I was older than he thought I was. There’s no story to tell.”

    https://www.irishcentral.com/culture/entertainment/sarah-greene-harvey-weinstein


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    https://www.buzz.ie/news/harvey-weinstein-reaches-tentative-25m-deal-with-sex-abuse-accusers-346636


    Harvey Weinstein has reportedly reached a $25 million deal with dozens of his sexual misconduct victims after two years of legal battles.
    The deal will reportedly see him avoid having to admit wrongdoing or pay money to his accusers personally.

    The deal, which has received preliminary approval from all the main parties involved, would see the payment come from Mr Weinstein's bankrupt film studio's insurance.

    News of the deal comes a month before Mr Weinstein is due to be tried in a Manhattan court on sexual assault charges which are separate from the settlement negotiations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Oh I don't believe a word of her story, just remembered that line from Jerry Maguire.

    Here's a news report with clips from a presser his lawyer gave were he effectively calls her a liar looking for a payday.

    Seven more 'liars' have come forward. That makes 22 liars in total. Oops!

    https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/celebrity/cuba-gooding-jr-accused-seven-more-women-sexual-misconduct-n1099126


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    https://www.buzz.ie/news/harvey-weinstein-reaches-tentative-25m-deal-with-sex-abuse-accusers-346636


    Harvey Weinstein has reportedly reached a $25 million deal with dozens of his sexual misconduct victims after two years of legal battles.
    The deal will reportedly see him avoid having to admit wrongdoing or pay money to his accusers personally.

    The deal, which has received preliminary approval from all the main parties involved, would see the payment come from Mr Weinstein's bankrupt film studio's insurance.

    News of the deal comes a month before Mr Weinstein is due to be tried in a Manhattan court on sexual assault charges which are separate from the settlement negotiations.

    How the hell can he land the payouts on an insurance company? What sort of bull**** is that.

    He doesn't even lose money , nevermind anything else. Literally scott free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    How the hell can he land the payouts on an insurance company? What sort of bull**** is that.

    He doesn't even lose money , nevermind anything else. Literally scott free.

    Clever business practises....or collusion... hard to know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus



    Did someone say 25 million dollar payout?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Did someone say 25 million dollar payout?

    Yeah-but that's Weinstein. Gooding Jr hasn't had a massive paycheck for a while now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,748 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I was wondering what happened him,
    Cuba Gooding Jr. says he was offered a lot of really great roles in the past, but turned them down.

    Some of the directors he turned down working with were Steven Spielberg (for Amistad), Michael Mann (for Collateral), Terry George (for Hotel Rwanda), and Taylor Hackford for the lead in the Ray Charles biopic that landed Jamie Foxx an Oscar.

    “I had all these big directors offering me roles, and I read their scripts and said, ‘I don’t think this part is right for me.’ And what happens is, if you offend enough big directors, you get taken off their lists,”

    fúckin eejit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Yeah-but that's Weinstein. Gooding Jr hasn't had a massive paycheck for a while now.

    Oh lol didn't even bother looking :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,360 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    I was wondering what happened him,


    fúckin eejit.

    I'm not buying this story. Cuba Gooding jr's movies after Jerry McGuire were genuinely awful-but he picked them.

    There's been rumours of his drinking and drug problems for years. As soon as he started making money again, he went back to the booze and the partying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,206 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    ^ Ha using a walker coming out of court huh. lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,263 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    ^ Ha using a walker coming out of court huh. lol.

    The old ageing Mafia boss trick. By the time of the trial he'll be in a wheelchair and claim to be blind and deaf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,504 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    His trial has begun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    ^ Ha using a walker coming out of court huh. lol.

    It states he had spinal surgery? I was in a bodycast and was happy to have a crutch / walking aid after I broke my spine.... and I was only 17.

    Not defending him, but might aswell stick to the facts. Either the pic in the link is an amazing Photoshop, or he looks like sh1t


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    It states he had spinal surgery? I was in a bodycast and was happy to have a crutch / walking aid after I broke my spine.... and I was only 17.

    Not defending him, but might aswell stick to the facts. Either the pic in the link is an amazing Photoshop, or he looks like sh1t

    Pretty sure I'd look like **** too if I sexually assaulted a crap tonne of people and it was all coming to light now...

    Sorry, allegedly.


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