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The Hobby Horses of Belief (and assorted hazards)

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    In a piece of rare good news from Brazil, the country's Supreme Federal Court has upheld a ban on religious missionary activity inside reserves that are home to isolated or recently contacted indigenous people, in an attempt to prevent covid from spreading in and likely hammering the communities.

    This is despite an earlier federal law which explicitly banned all contact with indigenous people, save - naturally - from proselytizing missionaries who, in previous years, have carried in multiple diseases resulting in widespread death.

    https://news.mongabay.com/2021/10/brazil-court-emphasizes-ban-on-missionaries-trying-to-contact-isolated-indigenous/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    They're carriers of a serious mind virus which causes great harm.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Here you go again.

    You've never once provided any evidence to back up these claims, are you going to do so now?

    Making bizarre claims without evidence should really be left to the religious.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    A racy pop music video filmed in a Spanish cathedral has unleashed a scandal which has led to the resignation of a member of the clergy and caused the local bishop to apologise during Mass.

    Much of the video for the song Ateo (“Atheist”), a duet by Spanish star C Tangana and Argentinian singer Nathy Peluso, was filmed in Toledo’s medieval cathedral. It shows the couple dancing raunchily, at times with Tangana stripped to the waist, while priests look on.

    “I want to make a religion of your hair, your mouth and your face,” Tangana sings, “And may the Virgin of Almudena forgive me the things I do in your bed.”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato



    The Roman Catholic diocese of Catania enacted a three-year ban on the ancient tradition of naming godparents at baptisms and christenings. Church officials argue that the once-essential figure in a child’s Catholic education has lost all spiritual significance. Instead, they say, it has become a networking opportunity for families looking to improve their fortunes, secure endowments of gold necklaces and make advantageous connections, sometimes with local power brokers who have dozens of godchildren.

    God parenting, church officials say, has fallen to earth as a secular custom between relatives or neighbours – many deficient in faith or living in sin, and was now a mere method of strengthening family ties.

    And sometimes mob ties, too.


    In 2014, Archbishop Giuseppe Fiorini Morosini of Reggio Calabria, where the ’Ndrangheta mob is rooted, proposed a 10-year stop on godfathers, arguing in a letter to Pope Francis that a secular society had spiritually gutted the figure. That, he says, also made it ripe for exploitation by mobsters.

    Morosini says that a top Vatican official, Cardinal Giovanni Angelo Becciu, who is now on trial in the Vatican on money laundering charges, responded that all of Calabria’s bishops needed to agree before moving ahead. They did not.


    Salvatore Cuffaro, a former president of Sicily, says that he did not have many baptismal godchildren, “just about 20,” agreeing to only about 5 per cent of requests. He was sought after, he says, for his “Christian principles,” demonstrated over decades of political life.

    “Despite what some priests think, I paid attention to all of my baptismal godchildren” and instructed them to go to Catholic school, he says.

    Cuffaro, nicknamed “Kiss Kiss” for his tendency to kiss everyone, served nearly five years in prison for helping alert a Mafia boss that he was being wiretapped. He denied those charges, and denied that a Mafioso had ever served as godfather to anyone on the island.

    “At least in Sicily, where I have lived, this doesn’t exist,” he says. “It’s only a religious bond; there are no bonds of illegality.”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    De Burkes again...

    WRC challenged over handling of complaint of unfair dismissal from Arthur Cox

    A High Court judge is hearing an action by a solicitor over the handling by a Workplace Relations Commission (WRC) adjudication officer of her complaint she was unfairly dismissed by law firm Arthur Cox.

    Ammi Burke brought the proceedings after an adjudication officer halted her case in the wake of a significant Supreme Court decision in April that had implications for WRC procedures.

    Adjudication officer Marie Flynn recused herself from the action and said Ms Burke’s case would need to be heard by a different officer.


    On behalf of Arthur Cox, a notice party to the case, Peter Ward SC said Ms Burke has shown a “propensity to accuse anyone and everyone of lying” and had “effectively laid out a conspiracy theory” in claiming the WRC altered guidelines in reaction to her case.

    Mr Ward said Ms Burke and some members of her family had “obstructed” the WRC hearing to such an extent Ms Flynn could not hear other evidence being given. Ms Burke and some family members treated the adjudication officer “appallingly” during the proceedings, he also said.

    While the firm is also inconvenienced by the requirement for the case to restart, Ms Flynn’s decision was “lawful and correct”, counsel said.

    In reply, Ms Burke denied fabrication and said: “I’m the one party that has raised facts.”

    The case resumes on Tuesday.

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Right charmers.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭Odhinn




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Very large family from Mayo who all have biblical first names, who among other things managed to get themselves banned from all NUIG societies a few years back

    One of their number was employed at Arthur Cox until a couple of years ago. The family were protesting outside their offices on a few occasions pre-covid, trying to make out they are being persecuted for their christianity (same shtick they tried at NUIG)

    "The Tesco Value Westboro Baptist Church" is a pretty accurate description tbh 🤣

    More...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The Bishop of Galway Brendan Kelly has addressed the controversy surrounding the so called “TikTok priest” Fr Michael King who is on indefinite leave after he allegedly posted controversial videos on the social media platform.

    The 44-year-old’s videos allegedly featured innuendo and jokes about playing songs such as ACDC’s Highway to Hell at a funeral Mass.


    Bishop Kelly said that he fully understood that locals felt “hurt” and “let down” at this time.

    “I wish to assure you that Fr King is receiving all the help and support that he requires. I ask that you join with me in praying for him. Thank you for listening and may God bless you and your families.”


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    The importance of due diligence before you hire someone.

    Arthur Cox should have known better

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    It wasn't as if they had to do anything tougher than google the name...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Are you allowed not hire somebody because their family are nutcases, though?

    Perhaps take the more subtle approach - casually bring up the firm's inclusivity and diversity policy during the interview, then ask them would they be willing to help organise the next Pride event 😁

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,526 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Plus having a nutcase on the payroll can help attract nutcase clients with deep pockets.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    You can just not hire someone as they were not the best candidate for the job. Actually beggars belief how Arthur Cox ended up in this situation unless they inherited her through a merger or something like that.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    The 2013 Russian law which protects "religious feelings" from "insult" (nb, does not apply to JW's) continues to bear strange fruit. In partial focus this time is the shapely frontage of "Lola Bunny", an OnlyFans content provider who became so overheated while filming near St Basil's in Moscow, that she had to lift up her top to cool her chest.

    Unfortunately, the resulting video made its way into the public and religious believers who clicked to view it became so overheated themselves that at least one of them contacted the police to deal with the issue. Ms Bunny, who has since begun to receive online threats, released a public apology, but this failed to prevent police from banning her from leaving the country while they continue to study the video in close detail.

    https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/status/1451913465963106304



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    "I've watched every second of this disgusting film - twice"

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Bizarrely, the Burkes have been hitting the courts yet again this week - this time a civil action against NUIG:

    Four siblings have begun a civil action against the National University of Ireland, Galway claiming they were discriminated against and victimised by college authorities because of their religious beliefs seven years ago.

    Brothers Isaac and Enoch Burke and their sisters Kezia and Ammi, from Co Mayo, were all students at NUI Galway when they claim they were banned for life in November 2014 from being members of the college student societies.

    All four are members of the Christian Union Society, which promotes Christian beliefs based on the authority of the scriptures. The society held meetings and events at the college and had 127 members in 2014.

    The four were also committee members of the Life Society at the college, which promoted a pro-life message.

    The case is being heard before Judge Raymond Groarke at Loughrea Circuit Court.

    In his evidence, Isaac Burke said he received an email from the USCG, the university society co-ordination group that deals with the governance of college societies, on 10 November 2014 informing him he was barred from active membership of all societies at NUI Galway. His siblings received similar emails.

    Prior to this, he said, they had had a difficult year in which their posters had been ripped down at various locations around the campus.


    NUI Galway denies the claims and cannot accept the four were banned for life or that it had anything to do with their religious beliefs.

    The court was told they were barred for four-and-a-half years, which was imposed for alleged misappropriation of university funds and benefits.

    The proceedings, in which the four siblings are representing themselves, are due to continue for three days.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,513 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    No words for something like this.

    First case of faith-based abuse in Ireland as child left with brain damage after ‘exorcism’


    A couple have been convicted of the neglect of and cruelty to their nine-year-old daughter, who needs carers for the rest of her life after suffering catastrophic brain damage.


    The jury heard evidence that at one stage the father told a detective that he carried out a ritual to get a ‘devil’ to leave the child’s body.

    The Dublin-based 39-year-old man and his 36-year-old wife had pleaded not guilty to two charges of assault causing serious harm and three charges of child cruelty at the family home between June 28 and July 2, 2019. The parents are originally from North Africa but came here some years ago. They cannot be named to protect the anonymity of the child.

    ~

    During the Garda investigation, the father told a detective that he contacted a ruqyah, an Islamic faith healer, and that he told this man his daughter was saying ‘that the djinn was inside her’, referring to the Islamic idea of a spirit. The couple had moved to Ireland around 2011 and in March 2019 their eldest daughters, including the victim, followed.

    https://extra.ie/2021/10/30/news/irish-news/first-case-of-faith-based-abuse-in-ireland-as-child-left-with-brain-damage-after-exorcism



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    He used the Australian data protection law to get his chosen form of words inserted into his baptismal record. Wonder could that work here?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato



    The High Court has dismissed a challenge brought by solicitor Ammi Burke over a Workplace Relations Commission (WRC) officer’s handling of her complaint of unfair dismissal from top law firm Arthur Cox.

    Mr Justice Garrett Simons “dismissed in its entirety” Ms Burke’s proceedings against adjudication officer Marie Flynn, who aborted her case in the wake of a landmark Supreme Court decision with significant implications for WRC hearings and determinations. 


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    So, the "Tesco Value Westboro Baptist Church" have lost what seems to be a very technical case? Seems like they were arguing a fairly esoteric point of law? I don't see any 'we wuz discwiminated for our fatuous religious beliefs' in the article.... There was no claim that the employer did what they did as discriminatory.


    Really, it should be easier to fire people in this country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    No but when the whole family was protesting outside Arthur Cox (I work near there) that was what they were alleging on their placards

    I don't really know what the problem is, the adjudicator didn't make a finding against them just decided that the case needed to be heard again from the start, a strange thing to go to court to try to overturn. The eventual decision will almost certainly go against them in the end though

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    In today's "bizarre stuff found by chance on the internet", we have the following:

    The body of triple murderer, Brendan O'Donnell, was cremated in Dublin after Mass concelebrated by the Bishop of Clonfert, Dr John Kirby, with six priests.

    His parents must have been big donors.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭Captain Barnacles


    MAssive hazard of belief right here


    I'm surprised it wasn't posted allready - oh wait, i'm not surprised at all ...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,526 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭Captain Barnacles


    Pathetic , you know very well it was radical Islam.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,526 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Mod warning: Less the aggressive attitude towards other posters please.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭Odhinn




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Strangely enough, it appears he was a convert to Christianity though sectioned under the mental health act some years previously. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-59301708 The other suspects involved have also been released. It will be interesting to see how this one plays out, while it has been declared as a terrorist incident based on the bomb / incendiary device it hasn't been linked to any group or ideology.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,692 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Yeah. This is curious because pretty central to the idea of terrorism is that you are committing atrocities at least nominally to advance some at least vaguely political objective (as opposed to just because you like killing people, like a US school shooter, say). If they don't know why this guy did what he did, it seems a little early to categorise the incident as a terrorist one. But it is possible that the authorities know a bit more about his motivation than they have publicly said so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The Burkes lose their case against NUIG.

    In his judgment on Monday, Judge Raymond Groarke noted the case arose after NUIG’s university society co-ordination group (USCG) imposed the ban in 2014 on the siblings from being members of college societies.

    USCG said the ban arose because the Burkes distributed leaflets using the college logo which was against the college’s code of conduct and used college funds to pay for the leaflets and, by doing so, misrepresented the college. It also claimed they had shown no willingness to engage with an investigation committee and provided misleading information.

    In 2014, they were involved in distributing leaflets seeking a no vote in a referendum advocating Boycott Divestment Sanction of Israel in the context of its dealings with the people of Palestine. They also distributed flyers against gay marriage which implicitly connected gay marriage to paedophilia and incest. Some fellow students had complained about the leaflets and flyers.

    Judge Groarke was satisfied there were many procedural flaws in USCG’s handling of the matter and those were the result of “extraordinary and inexcusable” lack of knowledge of fair or proper procedures.

    However, he could not accept the procedural flaws were so “egregious” they could only have been motivated by conduct and/or intention to discriminate against them because of their religious beliefs. While some members of USCG and its investigating committee vehemently disagree with some opinions of the Burkes, that disagreement was not influenced by dislike of their religion, he said.

    There were “serious aggravating circumstances” in this case, he also held. Those included the failure of the Burkes to co-operate with the investigation, their efforts to hinder it, their failure to give a truthful account of matters, their fabrication of accounts and their misuse of CUS [Christian Union Society] funds, he said.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The Hindu nationalist party of Indian prime minister Narendra Modi has banned the street sale of all non-vegetarian fare, including eggs and fish, in four major cities in his western home state of Gujarat as it “offended” Hindu religious sentiments.

    The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)-run municipal corporations in Gujarat’s largest city of Ahmedabad imposed the restrictions this week, following those similarly enforced in nearby Bhavnagar, Rajkot and Vadodara, which ordered the removal of non-vegetarian food carts along all major roads.

    The embargo also prevents vendors from selling their merchandise within 100m of all religious places, parks and educational institutions in these cities, with local BJP councillors stating that such food had a negative impact on people’s minds, particularly children.

    Since the BJP assumed federal power in 2014, it has made India’s food habits an integral part of its politics, by imposing complex bans on individual beef consumption and outlawing cow slaughter, as the animals were considered holy by India’s majority Hindu community.

    Thereafter, the BJP has gradually extended this beef ban to include all other non-vegetarian fare, and over the past seven years has often proscribed its consumption during Hindu religious festivals in several states ruled by them.

    In August, the BJP government in Uttar Pradesh state north of Delhi completely banned the sale of meat in the temple town of Mathura, which lies some 180km from the federal capital, with a population of more than 2.6 million. Chief minister Yogi Adityanath said the restriction was being imposed at the behest of local Hindu priests.

    Gujarat opposition Congress Party leader Manish Doshi declared that the ban on non-vegetarian food carts was a “diversionary tactic” by the BJP to deflect attention from more serious issues like galloping unemployment, inflation and rising fuel prices.

    Other analysts said the veto on the food carts was a calculated BJP move to harass Muslims, who largely control India’s meat trade.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato



    The leader of Spain’s main opposition party, Pablo Casado, is facing accusations of either being an extremist or of making a monumental blunder after attending a Mass dedicated to the late dictator Francisco Franco.

    Mr Casado, leader of the conservative Popular Party (PP), attended the service in a church annexed to Granada cathedral on Saturday, the anniversary of the death of General Franco in 1975. A small number of churches around the country continue to hold such masses every November 20th in tribute to Franco, who headed a brutal dictatorship for 36 years.

    However, the PP has insisted the incident was an unfortunate coincidence. Mr Casado was in Granada to take part in the convention of the Andalucían wing of his party and a PP spokesperson said that he and his family had attended the Mass on Saturday because they wouldn’t be able to on Sunday.

    The archbishopric of Granada also played down the incident, with a spokesperson telling local media that “someone organised a Mass for someone’s memory and his name was said, but there’s not much more to it”.

    However, details of the service have emerged suggesting the far-right nature of the service was obvious. A photograph reportedly taken during the Mass and published by elDiario.es news site shows a pro-Franco flag hanging over one of the front pews.

    During the service, the priest spoke the first names of Francisco Franco and José Antonio Primo de Rivera, another icon of the far right, but not their surnames.

    Afterwards, by the entrance to the cathedral, people brandished Francoist flags and sang Cara al Sol, the anthem of pro-Franco soldiers during the 1936-39 civil war, according to reports.

    The Francisco Franco Association, which promotes the legacy of the dictator, said in a statement that it had not invited the PP leader to the service, but it thanked all those who had attended “the Mass to pray for the soul of an exemplary Christian like Francisco Franco Bahamonde”.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato



    A little known sect led by a pastor who pokes eyes to heal is at the centre of a Covid-19 outbreak in South Korea, as the country reported a new daily record of 4,116 cases and battles a spike in serious cases straining hospitals.

    In a tiny rural church in a town of 427 residents in Cheonan city, south of Seoul, at least 241 people linked to the religious community had tested positive for coronavirus, a city official said.

    Many of the congregation were aged in their 60s and above and were unvaccinated, the official said. Just 17 out of the 241 confirmed cases had been vaccinated.

    "I believe it's the church's anti-government beliefs that refrained the believers to get the vaccine," the official said, adding that the town was put under a lockdown.

    Fackin' morons 🙄

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    "A little known sect led by a pastor who pokes eyes to heal"

    Never heard of that before - any more info?

    Googling for the above produces a) a small number of reports from reliable media outlets, with similar prose; or b) popup trash media outlets copying the text from reliable media outlets word-for-word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Well I think I'd have to infiltrate to learn any more, and I'm not really willing to do that 😎

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Adieu, archybishop Aupetit of Paris. Don't be messing around with dem wimmins. Maybe his replacement will be able to keep it in his cassock:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/paris-archbishop-resigns-over-alleged-relationship/vi-AARoUsB



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Makes a welcome change to see a priest in a relationship with somebody capable of providing consent. The man should be applauded.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Pakistani mob kills Sri Lankan over alleged blasphemy - Independent.ie


    A mob has descended on a sports equipment factory in Pakistan’s eastern Punjab province, killing a Sri Lankan man and burning his body publicly over allegations of blasphemy, police said.

    Armagan Gondal, a police chief in the district of Sialkot, said Muslim factory workers had accused the victim of desecrating posters bearing the name of Islam’s Prophet Muhammad.

    Police said initial information shows Priyantha Kumara was lynched inside the factory.

    Videos on social media showed the mob dragging the man’s heavily bruised body outside, where they burned it, surrounded by hundreds who cheered on the killers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Oopsie.

    A Roman Catholic diocese in Sicily has apologised to parents after its bishop reportedly told a group of children that Santa Claus did not exist.

    At a religious event last week, Bishop Antonio Staglianò also said Santa's red costume had been chosen by Coca-Cola for publicity, Italian media report.

    The comments infuriated parents.

    In an apology, Rev Alessandro Paolino, from the diocese of Noto, said the bishop had tried to underline the true meaning of Christmas.

    He also said the comments had been aimed at highlighting the story of Saint Nicholas, the initial inspiration for the figure of Santa Claus and known for giving gifts to the poor.

    "First of all, on behalf of the bishop, I express my sorrow for this declaration, which has created disappointment in the little ones, and want to specify that Monsignor Stagliano's intentions were quite different," Rev Paolino said in a post on the diocesan Facebook page.

    Rev Paolino, who is the communications director for the diocese of Noto, said the bishop had wanted the children to "reflect about the meaning of Christmas", saying that the date had become known for consumerism.

    "If we can all draw a lesson, young or old, from the figure of Santa Claus... it is this: fewer gifts to 'create' and 'consume' and more 'gifts' to share," the statement said.

    In an interview with newspaper La Repubblica, the bishop said he had not told the children that Santa did not exist but that there was a need to "distinguish what is real from what is not".

    "A real fact has emerged, namely that Christmas no longer belongs to Christians," he said (in Italian). "The Christmas atmosphere between lights and shopping has taken the place of Christmas."


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,407 CMod ✭✭✭✭Pawwed Rig


    I liked this bit

    the bishop said he had not told the children that Santa did not exist but that there was a need to "distinguish what is real from what is not".

    Said by a man that has dedicated his life to something on the same level as Santa Claus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Bishop stripped of powers after marrying author of occult erotica

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/bishop-erotica-author-xavier-novell-b1974650.html



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    "A real fact has emerged, namely that Christmas no longer belongs to Christians," he said (in Italian). "The Christmas atmosphere between lights and shopping has taken the place of Christmas."

    Said the silly man, oblivious to the fact that early christians appropriated the holiday from various elements of the festivals of Saturnalia and Sol Invictus which were - entirely predictably - lights and pressies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    According to El Mundo newspaper, Mr [ex-bishop] Novell, an agricultural engineer, is now working for an international firm which specialises in the preparation of doses for artificial swine insemination.

    Every porcine sperm is sacred!

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Maria Butina, last seen in the west departing from Tallahassee Federal Correctional Institution where she spent nine months following a conviction for espionage while hobnobbing with the NRA and prominent Republicans, returned to Russia where she was "elected" to the Russian "parliament".

    Her latest concern in a country well-known for having an uncountable number of intractable issues at all levels within society, involves the sale of dolls within Russia, where she has found that dolls with non-white features are incompatible with the correct education of children.

    https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/12/15/lawmaker-convicted-in-us-of-being-russian-agent-seeks-to-regulate-childrens-dolls-a75820



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,692 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Amusing and depressing in equal measure, but I'm not entirely sure why this is turning up in the "hobby horses of belief" thread. Has Butina expressed any views on religious questions?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Definitely more of a "manufactured culture war" newsitem than anything specifically religious, but then again, this thread is a broad church and unevidenced beliefs leading to bizarre behaviour and potentially, to crazy laws as well, is right up its aisle.

    It would be easy to list a thousand issues which the Russian state could profitably deal with to the benefit of the country, its population and the world at large - not the least of which is to determine precisely what the f*ck Mr Putin's longterm plans are for the huge numbers of his well-equipped, but poorly-trailed and poorly-disciplined army which have recently marched up to the borders of Ukraine and now fester there, angrily and dangerously.

    But insidious cultural problems emanating from little dolls made of brown plastic isn't one of them.



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