Shannon Airport Thread [Mod Warning in First Post]

Airbus330 · 31-08-2015 11:59pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Loads to AGP doing good overall?

Will be interesting to see what EI do next year at Cork and any impact it may have on SNN or DUB to fit DUS in. Believe their schedules are going out really soon.

Yeah AGP not too bad at all, pretty popular with families etc. Ryanair seems more towards the younger ones heading out on student holidays, or short trips away.

Yes that will be interesting to see alright..

Airbus330 · 01-09-2015 12:00am

Carnacalla wrote: »

How much could it cost to bus the crew though? Not very much, maybe €100 both ways....

Yeah I'm sure it's not too expensive, just a charge that you'd forget about

jamesoc85 · 01-09-2015 1:34pm

Hey, does anyone know if US Airways Flight 777 to Philadelphia is operated by a US Airways B757 or an American airlines plane. I am due to take this flight next week and wanted to know if there was video on demand in flight entertainment or old US Airways Overhead screens?

highlydebased · 01-09-2015 2:25pm

jamesoc85 wrote: »

Hey, does anyone know if US Airways Flight 777 to Philadelphia is operated by a US Airways B757 or an American airlines plane. I am due to take this flight next week and wanted to know if there was video on demand in flight entertainment or old US Airways Overhead screens?

Basically a US Airways 757 with American Airlines colours on the aircraft. Dont know if they have at seat IFE or not, a bit of googling might reveal the answer.

Jamie2k9 · 01-09-2015 2:39pm

FR have started to load Summer 16 flights, probably a little early for any announcements or major schedule changes though.

JCX BXC · 01-09-2015 6:19pm

Did one of the BA A318's go tech again? Flights cancelled today and tommorow

JCX BXC · 01-09-2015 6:23pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

FR have started to load Summer 16 flights, probably a little early for any announcements or major schedule changes though.

What's your opinion on whether any routes will be added?

JCX BXC · 01-09-2015 8:38pm

Ryanair have some summer schedule loaded, FUE, FAO and AGP seems to be starting again on the 17th of March.

AGP is on an AGP aircraft this year, is this a good sign?

Airbus330 · 01-09-2015 9:57pm

Poiters will be cut I'd say. Wonder will they bring back Nanates at all

highlydebased · 01-09-2015 10:36pm

They have their pick of French regional airports to start flying to. Look at all the inbound charters over the summer from France.

Would love Girona to come back -that used be 6pw years ago.

highlydebased · 02-09-2015 12:58am

Also a point about random sun routes on sale for third/last week in March- that's Easter school hols

JCX BXC · 03-09-2015 5:32pm

Ryanair have released alot of their Summer Schedule today, Shannon's is extremely disappointment so far.

France
Nice- Not loaded (2pw this year)
Beauvais- 2pw (3pw this year) SNN based aircraft
Poitiers- Not loaded (2pw this year)

Germany
Berlin-2pw (No change) SNN based aircraft
Memmingen-2pw (3pw this year) SNN based aircraft

Lithuania
Kaunas-2pw (No change)Half SNN/KUN aircraft as opposed to just a KUN aircraft this year

Poland
Krakow-2pw (No change) KRK based aircraft
Warsaw-2pw (No change) SNN based aircraft
Wroclaw-2pw (No change) SNN based aircraft

Portugal
Faro-3pw (No change) FAO based aircraft

Spain
Alicante-2pw (3pw April-July 2pw August-October this year) SNN/ALC aircraft as opposed to just ALC aircraft this year
Fuerteventura-1pw (No change) SNN based aircraft
Lanzarote-1pw (2pw last June/July 1pw rest of year this year) ACE based aircraft
Malaga-2pw (4pw June/July this year, other times 2pw) SNN based aircraft
Palma-2pw (3pw June/July last year other times 2pw) SNN based aircraft
Tenerife-1pw (No change) SNN based aircraft, is TFS based this summer

United Kingdom
Gatwick-7x weekly (No change) SNN based aircraft
Stansted-16x weekly (No change) SNN/STN based (No change)
Manchester-5pw (7pw this year) SNN/MAN based (No change)

The seasonal peak in sun routes either hasn't been loaded or are now discarded. As you can see there is capacity decreases in several areas, namely MAN,FMM and BVA. There is also the lack of NCE and PIS.

Hopefully there's more to come?

JCX BXC · 03-09-2015 7:29pm

Watched "Inside Shannon" this evening, I didn't realise that a 757 was a widebody! (It's not)

highlydebased · 03-09-2015 8:36pm

There's alot yet to be loaded

Jamie2k9 · 03-09-2015 11:06pm

While I'm sure it's far from complete but SNN/MAN had quiet a few 5 euro or 5.99 fares this summer and it been peak seasons such fares are not profit making as sending some Brits over to Spain for a but of Sun. If I'm not mistaken it's the MAN based flights that have been axed at least for now.

In saying that cutting the early Saturday during PL seasons in the UK seem's very strange.

Watched "Inside Shannon" this evening, I didn't realise that a 757 was a widebody! (It's not)

Is it worth a watch?

JCX BXC · 03-09-2015 11:11pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Is it worth a watch?

It's quite good for that type of documentary. Very simplified language but it offers an interesting insight into the airport. Tonight was the first of 6 episodes.

Airbus330 · 04-09-2015 7:33am

SNN-MAN all summer never had loads less then 150 passengers (that the lowest I recall anyway). Typical loads around 165-185 passengers

As for the yield, that could be a different story

Cosmo Kramer · 04-09-2015 1:39pm

So, is the situation here that Shannon have allowed Stobart to almost abandon the airport completely in order to let Ryanair set up one competing route to Manchester which they have subsequently cut back after just one summer season?

If the DAA had done that there would be outrage locally but at least they knocked a four (?) aircraft base out of Ryanair in return for selling their souls, the new setup has only secured a handful of new Ryanair routes, most of which seem to be failing.

elastico · 04-09-2015 2:28pm

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

So, is the situation here that Shannon have allowed Stobart to almost abandon the airport completely in order to let Ryanair set up one competing route to Manchester which they have subsequently cut back after just one summer season?

If the DAA had done that there would be outrage locally but at least they knocked a four (?) aircraft base out of Ryanair in return for selling their souls, the new setup has only secured a handful of new Ryanair routes, most of which seem to be failing.

I'd be more concerned about failing again on Saturday if I were you.

highlydebased · 04-09-2015 3:02pm

Cosmo Kramer wrote:

If the DAA had done that there would be outrage locally but at least they knocked a four (?) aircraft base out of Ryanair in return for selling their souls, the new setup has only secured a handful of new Ryanair routes, most of which seem to be failing.

Sorry to be pedantic but one or two out of 20 or so routes is far from most.

Airbus330 · 04-09-2015 4:17pm

Cosmo Kramer wrote: »

So, is the situation here that Shannon have allowed Stobart to almost abandon the airport completely in order to let Ryanair set up one competing route to Manchester which they have subsequently cut back after just one summer season?

If the DAA had done that there would be outrage locally but at least they knocked a four (?) aircraft base out of Ryanair in return for selling their souls, the new setup has only secured a handful of new Ryanair routes, most of which seem to be failing.

Was just about to say as well, care to expand on which routes are "failing?" given that you say most of them, I'm expecting a long list here...

Although I don't agree with the allowing Ryanair on the route, they have carried way more passengers on the route then Stobart did, which is obviously to do with the size of the aircraft which (as I'm sure you read above) it carried min 150 pax on every flight.

Hardly expect them to have their timetables and routes set in stone already, and before they've even confirmed it..so relax their awhile.

cnoc · 04-09-2015 4:52pm

Dublin Airport has done very well with the new Ryanair routes. I notice that 4 daily flights will be going to AMS - a pity SNN could not at least have gotten one of these routes.

Airbus330 · 04-09-2015 6:07pm

cnoc wrote: »

Dublin Airport has done very well with the new Ryanair routes. I notice that 4 daily flights will be going to AMS - a pity SNN could not at least have gotten one of these routes.

Sure is. It's these kind of routes that would do well all year around, not tiny regional airports (i.e BVA/PIT).

Saw an article in the Irish Independent about how Ryanair are interested in growing traffic from ORK. That'll be interesting one to watch

Jamie2k9 · 05-09-2015 12:02am

Will hand it to RTE a decent production compared to some questionable Irish content in the past.

One little note was the shopping refurb carried out peak season?, if so it's poor form on the airports behalf.

Airbus330 · 05-09-2015 12:27am

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Will hand it to RTE a decent production compared to some questionable Irish content in the past.

One little note was the shopping refurb carried out peak season?, if so it's poor form on the airports behalf.

Yeah it was finished mid/end of June which is strange. Must have taken a bit of planning but strange enough doing it peak time that's for sure. Should have been done at Easter the latest

JCX BXC · 06-09-2015 8:52pm

MAN still at 5 weekly, doesn't look good.
Nice is also not loaded, likewise seasonal peaks.
Could Nice become a June-August route?

Airbus330 · 07-09-2015 5:10pm

Nice has higher loads then Lanzarote or most of the other summer holiday routes so I'd be suprised if that was cut or even reduced.

Yesterday's AGP flight with EI was also fully booked.

Wouldn't be suprised if there is some FR cut backs or reductions however if they go ahead with any major ORK announcement.

highlydebased · 07-09-2015 6:29pm

Still a gap for Nice -early am on weds and sat in place of Manchester flight, which was operated from MAN base those days.

There'll also be an early am departure on Thursday to somewhere unknown, a/c 1 does SNN-STN-SNN-MAN -SNN so space for something else on other aircraft

knockon · 08-09-2015 10:07pm

When could we expect to see EI Summer Schedule from SNN?

JCX BXC · 08-09-2015 10:10pm

knockon wrote: »

When could we expect to see EI Summer Schedule from SNN?

We should see confirmation of what routes currently operating will continue for summer at around the end of September. After they they could announce routes up to February for the summer.

I can't see much coming from EI though.

Brennans Row · 09-09-2015 12:02pm

€21m Shannon scheme underway (Irish Times)

Major redevelopment at Shannon Free Zone

Shannon Group has started work on a major redevelopment programme at Shannon Free Zone aimed at making it more attractive for inward investment and job creation.

The first phase of the works, valued at €21 million and due to take two years to complete, includes the redevelopment of a 12-acre site in the zone where three former manufacturing buildings of 27,871sq m (300,000sq ft) have been demolished.

A planning application is due to be lodged shortly for a 3,716sq m (40,000sq ft) Grade A office block and a 2,787sq m (30,000sq ft) advance technology manufacturing unit for part of the 12-acre site.

These two new buildings have a combined cost of over €10 million and should support more than 250 construction-related jobs.

Other important projects in the first development phase include a 6,225sq m (67,000sq ft) technology manufacturing facility at Shannon Free Zone East. This is estimated to cost €6 million and development is already underway.

In addition, work on a €4 million upgrade and development of a 9,290sq m (100,000sq ft) warehousing unit adjoining Shannon Airport lands is set to start later this year.

Meanwhile, the €1.3 million refurbishment of a 5,203sq m (56,000sq ft) office and warehousing facility in Shannon Free Zone West is complete.

The first phase is part of a five-year programme by Shannon Group’s property company, Shannon Commercial Properties Ltd, to deliver a stock of advanced manufacturing, warehousing and office space solutions to help the State’s development agencies to attract new business to the airport and free zone.

See also the Clare Herald

Brennans Row · 09-09-2015 8:04pm

Sri Lanka Airlines (Airbus A340-311) flight from Colombo Sri Lanka landed in Shannon.

MRO?

_Tombstone_ · 09-09-2015 11:35pm

Inside Shannon Thursday on RTE.

It'll have that big plane antonov or however ya spell it on.

Brennans Row · 10-09-2015 10:53am

Shannon Airport air traffic down -21.1% for August (IAA).

Brennans Row · 10-09-2015 12:01pm

A drop of 463 commercial flight movements for the month of August was quite substantial.

After allowing for the loss of Aer Lingus Regional, I would reckon a net drop of 200-250 commercial flight movements for the month.

In what areas did this happen? Transit, Cargo, Charters?

Brennans Row · 10-09-2015 12:18pm

The number of flights passing through Shannon however fell sharply with an average of 56 commercial movements a day, down 21.1 per cent on the same period a year earlier. Despite the decline in flights at the airport, load factors - a measure of how full planes are - have typically been higher of late, giving an overall 7 per cent increase in terminal passengers at Shannon. (Irish Times)

At least the passenger numbers are up +7%.

JCX BXC · 10-09-2015 12:39pm

Summer sun routes which previously ran at higher capacity were city to lower capacity in August. Eg PMI

Jamie2k9 · 10-09-2015 1:06pm

Brennans Row wrote: »

A drop of 463 commercial flight movements for the month of August was quite substantial.

After allowing for the loss of Aer Lingus Regional, I would reckon a net drop of 200-250 commercial flight movements for the month.

In what areas did this happen? Transit, Cargo, Charters?

Fewer diversions/

Anybody explain why June was so well shielded from EIR loss in terms of movements than the rest?

zweton · 10-09-2015 8:58pm

Brennans Row wrote: »

€21m Shannon scheme underway (Irish Times)

Major redevelopment at Shannon Free Zone

Shannon Group has started work on a major redevelopment programme at Shannon Free Zone aimed at making it more attractive for inward investment and job creation.

The first phase of the works, valued at €21 million and due to take two years to complete, includes the redevelopment of a 12-acre site in the zone where three former manufacturing buildings of 27,871sq m (300,000sq ft) have been demolished.

A planning application is due to be lodged shortly for a 3,716sq m (40,000sq ft) Grade A office block and a 2,787sq m (30,000sq ft) advance technology manufacturing unit for part of the 12-acre site.

These two new buildings have a combined cost of over €10 million and should support more than 250 construction-related jobs.

Other important projects in the first development phase include a 6,225sq m (67,000sq ft) technology manufacturing facility at Shannon Free Zone East. This is estimated to cost €6 million and development is already underway.

In addition, work on a €4 million upgrade and development of a 9,290sq m (100,000sq ft) warehousing unit adjoining Shannon Airport lands is set to start later this year.

Meanwhile, the €1.3 million refurbishment of a 5,203sq m (56,000sq ft) office and warehousing facility in Shannon Free Zone West is complete.

The first phase is part of a five-year programme by Shannon Group’s property company, Shannon Commercial Properties Ltd, to deliver a stock of advanced manufacturing, warehousing and office space solutions to help the State’s development agencies to attract new business to the airport and free zone.

See also the Clare Herald

any name on the technology manufacturing facility?

Deagol · 11-09-2015 12:07am

any name on the technology manufacturing facility

I suspect this is the GE Sensing facility extension they are talking about. It's going from c.33,000sqft to c.100,000sqft and work started a couple of weeks ago.

JCX BXC · 16-09-2015 5:14pm

Looking at the prices on the Aer Lingus AGP and FAO routes I can't imagine that the routes are doing that bad.

Airbus330 · 16-09-2015 6:03pm

AGP has been fully booked almost every day it operates for the past few weeks! FAO good as well except for that day! Hopefully it's encouraging.

highlydebased · 16-09-2015 6:57pm

Just something anecdotal. Got back from hols to Fuerteventura to Shannon last week and got talking to a couple who had driven from Cavan to SNN for their holiday flights as they had saved a packet, and their mates had done it the previous week for the same reason

JCX BXC · 16-09-2015 8:50pm

I came back from Majorca (Air Europa-Falcon) in August and was talking to people from Carlow and Wexford on our flight.

Balf · 16-09-2015 8:52pm

highlydebased wrote: »

got talking to a couple who had driven from Cavan to SNN for their holiday flights as they had saved a packet, and their mates had done it the previous week for the same reason

Sitting beside them for four and a half hours, and you didn't notice them peeling an orange in their pocket.

highlydebased · 18-09-2015 3:45pm

August UK Routes (2014 in bracket)

LGW 10954 (11048)
LHR 22989 (24092)
STN 21649 (21518)
BHX 3146 (4690)
MAN 10495 (6579)

ctlsleh · 18-09-2015 4:02pm

if the timing of the LHR route was earlier in the morning, they would capture more business customers.....its a big problem arriving into LHR at 10AM, always delays vs when it used to be 7.30, cant do London in a day now either, have to stay overnight and makes connectivity to the rest of the world mopre difficult, i want to support SNN, but more often than not, im finding myself driving to Dublin instead, id definitely use it more if they brought back the earlier slot to LHR

highlydebased · 18-09-2015 4:32pm

Perhaps with the IAG takeover the early flight will return.

Brennans Row · 18-09-2015 7:43pm

The UK Airport Provisional Statistics for August.

The overall total UK figures are down -10.5% as against the same month from last year.

JCX BXC · 19-09-2015 1:03am

Turkish Airlines Cargo Operating IST-SNN-ATL by the looks of it the evening (landed at SNN at 11:16pm, took off again 25mins ago)

Will this become a regular thing?

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