And the winner of dreamer of the year is... Part 2!

wotzgoingon wrote: »

1991 Honda Integra 1.6 Yes it is clean and all but €7,500 clean, I don't think so personally.

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/1991-honda-integra/22706548

They're not as sought after as other Hondas but I don't think it's too wild really. Certainly worth 5-6k at least.

Wish I kept my old one now.. it was a 5 door too...

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Yaa, I don't think you're the target market for that aul teg.

Despite the tired wheel paint and cloudy lights :pac:

I'm not young enough!

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

I "Politely" disagree with you

The car has quarter of a millions kilometers on it and it's 28 years old.
Unless it was absolutely immaculate (which it isn't) it's not worth that money.

The wheel paint looks tired yet the body paint looks ok.
Also the lights look cloudy.
I wouldn't be going near it.

I suppose the target market is young lads/lasses from middle income families that have a few bob to sped on a sports car.

Making the mileage out to be massive is a bit unfair isn't it, that's only 9k km each year for 28 years. There's 5 year old cars with that mileage that you'd probably rather spend more money on :rolleyes:

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

Let me put it this way.
in 2006 (Pre Crash) I bought a 1998 Evo V for €13,950

This is what I base my valuation on, as do most people in their mid 30's that owned a jap sports car in the 00's.

Prices from 13 years ago have no bearing on the market at present.

Fact is revy fun cars that are getting close to vintage tax status are continuing to climb in value. Honda's and Toyota's in particular.

That integra being of the same era as ef9's and sir crx's should give an indication that it most likely won't be bought cheap. It's not as sought after as them but then again they're selling for upwards of 10k and beyond...

selectamatic wrote: »

Prices from 13 years ago have no bearing on the market at present.

Fact is revy fun cars that are getting close to vintage tax status are continuing to climb in value. Honda's and Toyota's in particular.

That integra being of the same era as ef9's and sir crx's should give an indication that it most likely won't be bought cheap. It's not as sought after as them but then again they're selling for upwards of 10k and beyond...

I absolutely agree with you in that they are fun cars.
The Evo was the best car I ever owned without a doubt.

However it's not even Jap cars approaching vintage status that are going for crazy money.
2003-08 Evo VIII's and IX's are being advertised for stupid money.

There is an MR-FQ360 with 16,700 miles for sale for £36k. This is the price they were sold at new. (That's near €50k here including VRT, there is better newer cars out there for that money)

I think the price of Jap Sports cars here is very much driven by the price of cars in the UK (Which in turn drives up the Jap auction prices). It'll be interesting to see what happens post Brexit

I often think about jumping back into the Jap Car scene, however I look at the prices and I know it's not worth it.

rizzodun wrote: »

Sorry, but in my opinion that's utter horsesh1t.

At this stage it come down to condition and level of maintenance.

It's not really, there things that you can maintain and then there are things you can't. (or cant inspect when viewing a car)

Beta Ray Bill wrote: »

Let me put it this way.
in 2006 (Pre Crash) I bought a 1998 Evo V for €13,950

8 year old jap import, it was in very good condition (not mint mind)

I cant remember the mileage but it wasn't high.
I sold in 2008 just as the crash hit and got €9,000

This is what I base my valuation on, as do most people in their mid 30's that owned a jap sports car in the 00's.

I get that there's "A going price" but that doesn't mean that "the going price" isn't outrageous... which it clearly is!



mileage is mileage man!
The more miles it has, the less it's worth

There was also a time that a mark 1 mexico could be got for £50, doesn't mean it bares any sort of relevance to todays prices.


The reason prices are going so high is because you are dealing with finite resources - from the best period of cars: the golden era of the late 80s to early 00s (imo) where technology was good enough to create amazing cars, but also limited enough to keep them reliable and easy to keep.

Just because you don't see them as classics doesn't mean they aren't.

Lads could you simply open a new thread to talk about this? It's getting a bit irritating opening the thread up and seeing just talk about vintage cars.

Not as bad as some others on here in fairness, but considering the engine swap I'd say they might be a little optimistic:

Toyota Altezza with SR20DET €8250

Jaylene Gigantic Self-discipline wrote: »

How would you even NCT / Insure / Tax that with the modifications? Only 5000 miles a year since new, very low

Plenty ways to get insurance, a classic policy would be a nice cheap one, you'd nct it same way you nct any car, again tax is no change as its the same size engine as original (cc band as its pre 08).

Not low for a Japanese car really, lots never even see 60k miles over there.

farna_boy wrote: »

Not as bad as some others on here in fairness, but considering the engine swap I'd say they might be a little optimistic:

Toyota Altezza with SR20DET €8250

Decent Altezzas are making 5/6k all day long and their engines aren't powerful enough to pull your foreskin back, that's a really desirable engine in it, he's probably breaking even considering how much work has gone into it.

That’s a big drawback.