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23-02-2020, 22:33   #586
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Murphy's has form for those high elbows to the head. Pure dirt. Remember him nearly taking the head off Brian Fenton a couple of years ago. Fenton's eye socket had already swelled up before the medics even left the pitch, but MM got off scot free. The hit last night should have been a straight red, but he knows no ref has the balls to give a player of his stature a straight red that early in the game, so he'll keep on doing it. He's a brilliant leader for Donegal, no doubt about it, but he doesn't get called out for the nasty stuff by star struck commentators & pundits near as much as he deserves, compared to what non superstar players from other counties have to listen to.

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Murphy's has form for those high elbows to the head. Pure dirt. Remember him nearly taking the head off Brian Fenton a couple of years ago. Fenton's eye socket had already swelled up before the medics even left the pitch, but MM got off scot free. The hit last night should have been a straight red, but he knows no ref has the balls to give a player of his stature a straight red that early in the game, so he'll keep on doing it. He's a brilliant leader for Donegal, no doubt about it, but he doesn't get called out for the nasty stuff by star struck commentators & pundits near as much as he deserves, compared to what non superstar players from other counties have to listen to.
A Dublin fan who cheers on the likes of Connolly, Small, Cooper etc calling other big players dirty..

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23-02-2020, 22:55   #588
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Boy. Well done on adding 2+2 and arriving at 76.

Cooper, Small etc deserve to be called out on their $hit when they act the scut. All players should be. Regardless of who they are, or their stature in the game. Murphy's acts of violence rarely are & it's not fair. That was my point. Nothing more. Nothing less. Well done on missing the point in a rather spectacular fashion.
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Called out last night on TV. Sent off a few times during his career and rightly criticised for it.

The world against the poor unfortuante Dubs. Cry me a river.
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Murphy's has form for those high elbows to the head. Pure dirt. Remember him nearly taking the head off Brian Fenton a couple of years ago. Fenton's eye socket had already swelled up before the medics even left the pitch, but MM got off scot free. The hit last night should have been a straight red, but he knows no ref has the balls to give a player of his stature a straight red that early in the game, so he'll keep on doing it. He's a brilliant leader for Donegal, no doubt about it, but he doesn't get called out for the nasty stuff by star struck commentators & pundits near as much as he deserves, compared to what non superstar players from other counties have to listen to.
You're only breaking your own heart engaging with these kind of people PD.
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Well, as another very famous, very wise, very eloquent Dub (apart from us, obviously) was wont to say....evil prospers when good men do nothing.
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If you think that's a near full strength Kerry team you'll be in for a surprise come championship. 2nd choice goalkeeper given a run, a light Graham O Sullivan given his chance ahead of a solid Foley, a debut for Shaw, still missing Moran, Peter Crowley still out, James O Donoghue still out, Shane Enright tried at centre back (massive failure). Couple all that with the fact its about as bad as Kerry have played this season so far and its definitely an opportunity missed for Meath today.
Ok kerry have a few missing Meath have near a team missing. 12 players missing, 11 out of the 12 players injured.

Meath Players missing everyone injured but One not injured. Many of them Meaths best footballers.

Meath 12 Missing Players/ 11 out of 12 injured

1 Ronan Jones ( back in USA )First choice midfelder
2 Michael Newman injured - best forward
3 Andy Colgan injured - first choice goalkeeper
4 Seamus Lavin injured- first choice left corner back
5 Shane Gallagher injured - first choice right corner back
6 Padraig Harnan injured - first choice centre back
7 Shane McEntee injured - Mentons midfield partner 2019
8 Shane Walsh injured - First choice full forward
9 Dara Campion injured- Last on team starting at 11
10 Niall Kane injured- last on team starting half back
11 Joey Wallace injured - Started all league games so far
12 Ben Brennan injured - First choice wing forward last year

Donal lenihan and Paddy kennelly. Both named on bench. Coming back from injury, lenihan is best inside forward in Meath.

If you add Lavin, Gallagher, Harnan, Jones, Campion, lenihan, Walsh and Newman to that team those 7 playere are Meaths 2 best man markers, Meath 3 best forwards and Meath best midfielder. An injury crisis is when you have double figures injured. Meath have had 10 players injured since early Jan. We get Devine back, Wallace gets injured. 11 players injured is a serious headache for any team trying break into div 1 from div 2.

Losing by 1 point and 3 points with 11 players injured is not bad going against two best teams in the country. We lost by 9 last summer to both.
Meath are not going stay in div 1, but when they when they get all of those players all actually on the field that will help.

One thing Meath have going for them is defence. Meath have good defenders even without 3 best defenders this league v Meath Tyrone scored 14 points, Donegal.scored 8 pointw and Mayo scored 9 points. I know Donegal scored 3 goals, but Meath had one best full backs in the country Conor MGill was sinbined for 10 mins Donegal scored 2 goals and young Clarke was strugglinh v. J Brennan. Lavin kept him very quite in super 8s last year.

Lavin McGill Gallagher was as good as full back line in the championahip last year. People talk about Meaths scoreline in leinster final but Meath kept Dublin to the lowst score in frst half in chsmpionshop in 9 years going back to 2011 v Donegal. Lavin and Gallagher are good quality corner backs. Harnan is one of Meath best defender still only 24. Clarke has struggled but is a prospect in the future. David Toner and Ronan Ryan have bern good finds, Toner has had good league and Ryan has really impressed me. Then you have attacking half backs liker J McEntee, Kane. And Brian Conlon. And of course Donal keoghan one of the best Meath defenders of last 50 years. Midfield Jones and Menton has potential at midfield. When Meath get all.their 3 best forward playing together, ( Incredibly none of the 3 have ever started a game for Meath together ). Add Newman, Walsh and Lenihan baxk fully fit, Meath team is substabtially different then today.

S many teams are poor defensively. Lack of quality defenders. McEntee is no Sean Boylan but he is a good manager and a good motivator and seems to be able to find hungry defenders who can defend. Meath have a defence which is strong with allot ot good defenders. This is an era where there is lack of good defenders compared to 15 or 20 years. Mayo and Dublin have great defenders. Many teams are shakey at the back. Meath were shakey at the back for 15 years. But since start of last year Meath are defensively good with good natural defenders. Meaths defence is the reason Meath were promoted and reached super 8. Meath do lack up front they need ro find 2 to 3 top class forwards, but having a good defence is a good foundation in every sports.

Meath are going to be relegated, but McEntee is building a team.slowly. It took Sean Boylan 4 years to make a breakthrough, it took Dwyer 5 years and Eugene McGeee 4 years. Jimmy B Murphy and Nicholas Englidh took years of up and downs and bad defeats to turn their hurling counties around. It takes years to turn around traditional county in the doldrums. McEntee is only half way through his job, 3 years done of 6. Meath are going in the right direction and in next year or two Outside the top 6 or 7 teams after Roscommon the teams that performed best v best teams in the country is Meath. Meath are clearly not getting over the line. But Meath are not far away eitheir

2017 Meath beat Galway by two points in the league
2017 Meath lost by 1 point to Donegal in championahip
2018 Meath lost by 1 point to Tyrone in the championship
2019 Meath lost by 2 points to Donegal in Ballybofey leag
2019 Meath lost by 2 points to Donegal in div 2 final
2020 Meath lost by 1 point to Mayo in league
2020 Mesth lost by 3 points to kerry in kerry in league

Then there is 3 super 8 matchs last summer were Meath were ahead in 3 games at around 60 min eg Donegal, kerry and Mayo. And keeping Dublin to the lowest score in first half in champiomship in a decade.

Over next 24 months can Meath turn those 1 or 2 point loses into wins. Maybe they wouldnt. If you look at the past most teams who suceeded had to go through moral victories , hard luck loses. Outside div 1 top 6 or 7 teams leave Roscommon to one side, no county has put in those close loses as Meath. Yesterday was 5th time in year and a half Meath lost by point or 2 to best teams in the country. And Meath should have won 3 of those games eg Tyrone 2018, Donegal 2019, Mayo 2020. Meath have trouble getting over the line. But if they continue put themselves in the position they should gain more experience to get over the line. Meaths aim.is turn into consistent top 6 or 7 team, super 8 team , div 1 .team. We are going to get relegated but I can see us getting Super 8 and getting a win this year. Over next year or two Meath are building and improving. And when Meath get to June and July with most of these 11 players back I think we will see a Meath team in 2020 which is better then 2019. If say no well I have 5 games now in 18 months against the teams in the country which are evidence Meath are going in the right direction. If u look closely u can see Meath are improving.

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John Small is a ruthless nasty player.
John has had a couple terrible years off the pitch with his father ill and passing away. Yes he deserved red cards but I seen a lot of other players do worse and never a mention.
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He did,led with elbow and should have been sent off,but Small is always "involved" during games.
Murphy caught Fenton with a closed fist a few years back, not his first time with that sort of carry one either, he has a nasty element to his game.

Cant remember John Small lamping anyone like Murphy does but apparently he's a dirtier player
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Murphy's has form for those high elbows to the head. Pure dirt. Remember him nearly taking the head off Brian Fenton a couple of years ago. Fenton's eye socket had already swelled up before the medics even left the pitch, but MM got off scot free. The hit last night should have been a straight red, but he knows no ref has the balls to give a player of his stature a straight red that early in the game, so he'll keep on doing it. He's a brilliant leader for Donegal, no doubt about it, but he doesn't get called out for the nasty stuff by star struck commentators & pundits near as much as he deserves, compared to what non superstar players from other counties have to listen to.
Murphy was yellow carded for the challenge on Fenton, but sure don’t let accuracy get in the way of paranoia.
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Been hearing about this Meath second coming for long time now without anything to back up that they are going challenge for Sam
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