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Jeremy Clarkson suspended

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    #3002
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,174 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    AvyStreet wrote: »
    Clarkson was nothing special. Any of the not particularly good comedy came from the shows writers. Evans will easily outshine him if he has the same team.


    and who were these writers? you would think they would get a credit on imdb for all of their work.


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    #3003
    My name is URL
    Registered Users Posts: 25,067 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Did you read the article?

    "destroyed"?

    I should look into destroying my career


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    #3004
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,376 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    AvyStreet wrote: »
    Clarkson was nothing special. Any of the not particularly good comedy came from the shows writers. Evans will easily outshine him if he has the same team.

    It would be nice to think he has been though a lesson and that it does impact one his career, you are missing a very subtle point about his popularity, his persona is designed to appeal to the type who think health and safety etc ( feminization of work, greens, anything lefty ) are ruining society and stopping all the fun.


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    #3005
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    mariaalice wrote: »
    It would be nice to think he has been though a lesson and that it does impact one his career, you are missing a very subtle point about his popularity, his persona is designed to appeal to the type who think health and safety etc ( feminization of work, greens, anything lefty ) are ruining society and stopping all the fun.

    I think people see him as a parody, but it has worn thin now.

    I'm looking forward to the new shows,I won't miss him at all.

    I'll miss James though,I like captain slow.


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    #3006
    P. Breathnach
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    ... his persona is designed to appeal to the type who think health and safety etc ( feminization of work, greens, anything lefty ) are ruining society and stopping all the fun.
    I think you meant that he is the king of the yobs.

    Despite his oafish behaviour in the incident with Tymon, I think that most of us can see that Clarkson is very bright, and has the capability of being very funny. Yes, I agree that he has created a persona, one that nurtures yobbishness.

    Then the wind changed, and the pretend monster became a real monster.


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    #3007
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,376 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    P. Breathnach wrote: »
    I think you meant that he is the king of the yobs.

    Despite his oafish behaviour in the incident with Tymon, I think that most of us can see that Clarkson is very bright, and has the capability of being very funny. Yes, I agree that he has created a persona, one that nurtures yobbishness.

    Then the wind changed, and the pretend monster became a real monster.

    I do think he is funny and I did watch the program, for him it is a persona he puts it on it is the the media after all, however I would be uneasy with the subtle pandering that the media promotes but that seems to a wider cultural issue of which he is but one example.


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    #3008
    AvyStreet
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    and who were these writers? you would think they would get a credit on imdb for all of their work.


    Richard Porter is one. There's a team of writers for most TV productions. Top gear does have such a team.

    I imagine the hulksters monologues about the ultimate warrior for example were scripted by writers rather than genuinely spontaneous thoughts.


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    #3009
    ScumLord
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    AvyStreet wrote: »
    Clarkson was nothing special. Any of the not particularly good comedy came from the shows writers. Evans will easily outshine him if he has the same team.
    He can't win. The complaint up to now has been that the show suffered because it became too scripted.

    Listed as the script editors for the top gear show are the main trio.


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    #3010
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,174 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    AvyStreet wrote: »
    Richard Porter is one. There's a team of writers for most TV productions. Top gear does have such a team.

    I imagine the hulksters monologues about the ultimate warrior for example were scripted by writers rather than genuinely spontaneous thoughts.

    Richard Porter was script editor/supervisor. Top Gear did not have a big team of writers. All of the in-studio pieces were done by the presenters themselves. They are all journalists after all.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8597628/The-secret-life-of-Top-Gear.html


    Comparing Top Gear with WWE? LOL.


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    #3011
    Wompa1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Richard Porter was script editor/supervisor. Top Gear did not have a big team of writers. All of the in-studio pieces were done by the presenters themselves. They are all journalists after all.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/8597628/The-secret-life-of-Top-Gear.html


    Comparing Top Gear with WWE? LOL.

    Pretty apt in fairness. The driving is real but the finish of their 'competitions' are predetermined. They are playing characters. The attempts at comedy are often cringeworthy and the acting is terrible.

    Your man, Oisin did very well in this situation. He kept a low profile and showed class throughout....unlike some of the others. Well done to him.


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    #3012
    sabat
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    I do think he is funny and I did watch the program, for him it is a persona he puts it on it is the the media after all, however I would be uneasy with the subtle pandering that the media promotes but that seems to a wider cultural issue of which he is but one example.

    In one of the few shows I watched, the one with Michael Fassbender, he made a joke about Irish people being lazy, but it was fine, just a bit of banter, the persona he puts on for TV etc. Then you have this case, in "real life", where he calls someone a fücking lazy Irish cünt. Irish was very much part of the insult in the same way Scottish was when he called Gordon Brown a "one eyed Scottish idiot."
    There is no carefully constructed facade with this guy; that's exactly what he's like - a nasty bullying racial supremacist who should have been moved on long before this.


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    #3013
    Wompa1
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    sabat wrote: »
    In one of the few shows I watched, the one with Michael Fassbender, he made a joke about Irish people being lazy, but it was fine, just a bit of banter, the persona he puts on for TV etc. Then you have this case, in "real life", where he calls someone a fücking lazy Irish cünt. Irish was very much part of the insult in the same way Scottish was when he called Gordon Brown a "one eyed Scottish idiot."
    There is no carefully constructed facade with this guy; that's exactly what he's like - a nasty bullying racial supremacist who should have been moved on long before this.

    Ever read his Sunday column?....the guy is a complete Xenophobe but in fairness, the BBC seem to have a track record for employing pieces of sh1t as on air talent.


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    #3014
    JackieBauer
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    Is Clarkson the curly haired **** anti-Irish?


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    #3015
    darkpagandeath
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    JackieBauer wrote: »
    Is Clarkson the curly haired **** anti-Irish?

    Did he punch the guy because he was Irish ?


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    #3016
    ScumLord
    Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    JackieBauer wrote: »
    Is Clarkson the curly haired **** anti-Irish?
    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Did he punch the guy because he was Irish ?
    Stop saying Irish, it's been deemed an offensive term by the British.


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    #3017
    JackieBauer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 277 ✭✭JackieBauer


    darkpagandeath wrote: »
    Did he punch the guy because he was Irish ?

    I'm not following the story. I hope he's anti-Irish, I'll have another reason to hate the ****


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    #3018
    Mint Aero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭Mint Aero


    JackieBauer wrote: »
    I'm not following the story. I hope he's anti-Irish, I'll have another reason to hate the ****

    grow up


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    #3019
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    I think one of the main reasons people like Clarkson is that he pisses off certain people and people love him for that. Spite is very attractive to some folk


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    #3020
    ohnonotgmail
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    BMMachine wrote: »
    I think one of the main reasons people like Clarkson is that he pisses off certain people and people love him for that. Spite is very attractive to some folk

    He punched Piers Morgan. that gives him god-like status in my eyes.


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    #3021
    AvyStreet
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    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    Richard Porter was script editor/supervisor. Top Gear did not have a big team of writers. All of the in-studio pieces were done by the presenters themselves. They are all journalists after all.


    Comparing Top Gear with WWE? LOL.

    Team of 9 writers.

    "The actual process for writing scripts, or at least sitting down to fill in the gaps with ‘whatever’, took several forms. Sometimes Jeremy would get a rush of blood to the head and crack on with it on his own, then email me a first draft with a simple note at the top; ‘ADD FACTS AND GAGS’."

    "Every so often he’d pause as he searched for a chunky analogy to illustrate a point and we’d spend a minute or two bouncing gags back and forth, trying to make each other laugh. A lot of Top Gear writing was based around men in a room trying to make each other laugh."


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    #3022
    Brendan Bendar
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    BMMachine wrote: »
    I think one of the main reasons people like Clarkson is that he pisses off certain people and people love him for that. Spite is very attractive to some folk

    Certainly pisses off me.

    As a matter of interest who are the 'certain people' he pisses off and who are the people who "love him for that "?

    This should be interesting.


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    #3023
    BMMachine
    Site Banned Posts: 2,094 ✭✭✭BMMachine


    Brendan Bendar wrote: »
    Certainly pisses off me.

    As a matter of interest who are the 'certain people' he pisses off and who are the people who "love him for that "?

    This should be interesting.

    i dont know if i could contain them all in a label. in my experience with people i know, he pisses off more liberally minded people and appeals to a$$holes. he also appeals to people that like to pretend they are smart


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