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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,518 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Not sure why ppl are surprised about the salaries, theyve been in the public domain for years, and plenty here have been complaining about it, maybe the events of the last week magnified it.

    And the ppl worried about not paying the license, i havent paid for one since 2007. Left Ireland in 2009, came back in 2014, and never got a tv. Got the threatening letters for a few weeks round 2017, emailed them saying, "piss off, i dont have a tv". Never heard from them since, nor had an inspector at the door.

    EDIT: it wasnt an email, it was this form I filled out. Never had a followup to it.

    https://www.tvlicence.ie/home/tv-licence-forms.html





  • Next license fee will go the exact same way as the water charges. Not a chance people will pay en masse.

    We are pretty docile in this country and let a lot of stuff go but don't like to be so blatently taken for fools.

    RTE will be absolutely fucked from this and it's hard to see them recover for a long long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    They release incorrect figures and it looked like they tried to hide those figures. I don't think they did anything wrong financial, but they lied about the payments.

    They could have said that they were all on 100,000 a year TBH, and they could have got away with that for a few years.

    This then brings into question the amounts paid to presenters of independently produced shows and if any of them should have been on the top earners list. Claire Byrne IMO is showing this with her statement.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users Posts: 436 ✭✭WealthyB


    Lads, 10 years ago I sold the telly to some lovely lads a few doors down. Got an ex demo Mitsubishi 55" display monitor instead. Hooked a Nvidia Shield up to it. Installed the legal apps (RTE player, TV3 Player, Kodi) and some less legal ones.


    That's a decade of no TV licence and €1600 saved, and the beauty is (for now) it's 100% legal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Dee will not attend tomorrow due to "ill health"


    Former RTÉ director general Dee Forbes will not attend the Oireachtas Media Committee hearings on the RTÉ payments scandal on Wednesday.

    A spokesperson for Ms Forbes said the former media executive had informed the committee that she will not be attending "due to health reasons



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,021 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    A real disservice to people to really have mental health issues.

    Just man up Dee, and say you're not coming, no need to pretend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Dee Forbes is a coward who is unable to stand over her disgraceful actions that she signed off on and is running scared of being exposed.

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I think it's more than likely that she is holding off and getting more advice from her legal people. Dotting her i's and crossing her t's so to speak. Come on she has a lot of dotting and crossing to do, bless her.



  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭TagoMago



    Then if she ever does get dragged in front of a committee it'll be the ol' pre-prepared statement to read out and "on legal advice, I'm precluded from making any further comments at this hearing.." 😎

    It's crazy, in the UK not even Rupert Murdoch could pull this kinda ****, no bother for the likes of Forbes and John Delaney before her, though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,895 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    So she is refusing to stand before the  Oireachtas due to health reasons and aslo she no longer works for RTE since she resigned.

    However she is still a director of GAA GO which signed a mega deal with RTE when she was DG of RTE.

    The GAA are also a funded heavily by the public so now they need to answer questions on that deal for me and was there secert payments made to get that deal done between RTE and the GAA and since she is was DG of RTE at the time and a director of GAA GO she would have had inside information that may have effected bids from other companies.


    Time to defund the GAA of public money now as well I say.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,454 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Really bad for RTE if she doesn't show up.

    Makes you wonder what she's hiding.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,229 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Other posters have mentioned she is still a director of GAA GO, which is jointly operated by RTE and the GAA.

    Is she going to resign that also?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,699 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    It's 100 percent a conflict of interests and I wonder was this declared at all. She could be on think ice with that one if a curious journalist decides to start digging around which inevitably they will.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Curious journalists are rather thin on the ground in this state , there are a few but not many, the upper echelons of Irish society is quite incestuous cosy and connected imv



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,699 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    What I mean to say is did she personally profit from GAAGO? I don''t think so reading into the detail of the setup. As DG of RTE she was automatically appointed to the board.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,479 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Please don't put Niall Prenderville and Pulling in the one post.

    I'm getting awful images in my head.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Not in relation to GAAGO, a decision would have been made on who should be put on the board of GAAGo RTÉ decided that the DG and Head of Sport should be RTÉ representatives on the board. IMO this is very bad governance / decision making.

    DG has overall responsibility to RTÉ, not to any subsidiaries, and decision made by GAAGo should not be on there desk. She/he should only get involved where it is loss making.

    Head Of Sport is involved in rights negotiations, by being on the GAAGo it may seem as though he is bidding against himself.

    Really Head of Commercial and the Head of Strategy should have been put on the board, to put it at arms length from RTÉ.


    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,543 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    All payments to her should be stopped ASAP

    The mental health card is used too often it hurts real suffers



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100


    I think Dee may attempt to pull a few down with her. Information and clarity is being drip fed from RTE and it will be interesting to see if all of this stops at her door. As DG it could well be appropriate to suggest well it does. But it is definitely unpalatable if others who may we'll have been involved to obtain a get out of jail free card.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,895 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    She doesn't come across as someone who will take one for the team, she looks and sounds like a person who will take as many as she can with her.


    She will walk away with a nice RTE pension now as well.


    However Dee & Ryan may be remembered as the two people who ended RTE as a public service broadcaster a nice peice of Irish history to be remembered for.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    A nice little number in fairness for all she done.. Now when it matters she throws the health card on the table.. Try being one paycheck away from the road lady and see how that effects your mental health? , she must be awful fragile entirely, how did she end up in such a responsible position at all??



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,479 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Perhaps she didn't declare her full mental state.

    She has form after all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,756 ✭✭✭sxt


    The Like's of Netflix and BBC are going to headhunt Tubridy. His RTE salary will pale in comparison to want he has the potential to earn



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭RoTelly



    ______

    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,668 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    What exactly will they be headhunting him for?

    A tell all exposé on how he brought down a publicly funded monopoly?

    To deliver a "how not to interview/present" training course?

    To reach the high cobwebs with the duster?



  • Registered Users Posts: 819 ✭✭✭alzer100




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,068 ✭✭✭DenMan


    The full version of the RTE Player is now up on the Sky apps I see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,895 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    What would Netflix want with him?

    If the BBC really wanted him he would have jumped years ago when he was on there covering for presenters. He hasn’t been on the BBC since 2015.

    More power to him if he can the BBC or an Irish for profit broadcasters to pay him the crazy money he was getting at RTE.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,543 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    An RTÉ statement on the controversial payments to Ryan Tubridy says former DG Dee Forbes was the only RTÉ Executive Board member that had all the information to know that his publically declared earnings were wrong. It also details the involvement of other senior executives.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    Very convenient that the only person to know about it has resigned and is in such mental turmoil as to be unable to furnish any details! Yet again the Irish tax payers are taken for fools! When will there be consequences for states and semi states gouging money from the public, no wonder we are the theoretically rich but with public services from the third world...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Was watching them discussing this on the Tonight Show on VM1, and it was pretty much 'Statement answered nothing'. The press release was meant to be released at 3 pm, and wasn't put out until 5.29.

    Eamon Dunphy was extremely critical.

    Saw interviews with RTE staff, many of whom were crying, then Emma O'Kelly discussing how RTE staff were denied maternity pay whilst on Maternity leave because 'there was no money'. (Isn't that illegal, not to provide maternity pay?) Editing equipment that is broken, and how there wasn't 'any money' for crew if a journalist had a story they wanted to cover, with the excuse 'no money' or the story might be killed.

    The whole debacle is DISGUSTING. And it was highlighted on the news that Dee Forbes hid behind Virtue Signalling (actual words used on the RTE 6.01 report) whilst actually being HORRIBLE to staff, no matter their gender.



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Madison Yellow Arrow


    And what was her obsession with wearing black? In addition to large black glasses? She looked like she was dressing for Star Trek rather than going to work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,543 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Yes I could see Tubs taking over from Chris Hemsworth in Extraction



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    My mum said she was wearing a fur coat. What kind of absolute wagon wears a fur coat to work?

    And remember how her photos were always photoshopped to make her look so much younger than she actually was, notably in interviews.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wishful thinking.

    He tried to jump ship to the BBC already and he didn't go down well with British audience.

    As for Netflix, nobody outside of Ireland has ever heard of the guy.

    We're a tiny, insignificant market and it just boggles that he was paid what he was by the state broadcaster in the first place.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭Iecrawfc


    It's amazing how RTE can set the price of someone like tubs without a market to test it? Almost like they pull the highest possible figure the great unwashed would tolerate less the backhanders and offer him that, regardless of his market price



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,921 ✭✭✭gifted


    Which contract that belongs to one of the big earners is up for renewal next?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,021 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    I don't think Tubs is on the same planet talent wise as Joe or Pat.

    There I have said it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,021 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Joe? You having a laugh?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,668 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    Absolutely spot on, but all are minor at best. Joe and Pat are on Pluto while Ryan is on Makemake.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭ebbsy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,983 ✭✭✭ebbsy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Feckin strap myself in for the SixOne now…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,021 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Rte coming out of the 1st PAC very badly.

    And as expected, the one person who can really answer the questions ain't going to show.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,675 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly



    That was the Oireachtas committee, PAC is tomorrow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,728 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    …/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Tubbs' salary (without unreported add-ons) should be sufficient to be split amongst the top 10 earners. So many of them get their audience either from an established brand (LLS for example), or from old people who's TVs never leave rte 1 and radios never leave Radio 1.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,528 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That's part of the problem for RTE's commercial revenues, their audience for their traditional big hitting shows is dying off rapidly and they have little to appeal to the non-OAP audience. Increased competition and streaming is the other part.

    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,837 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Looks like the can may be kicked down the road into the new Dail. Next government will have to take a quick and firm decision if so though.



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