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Garda shoots dog in Longford

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  • #502
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    BBFAN wrote: »
    So you think that an off duty detective would stop and get involved in this situation if he didn't have some motive?

    Bless that you're that naïve.

    You claimed on several occasions that he was off duty and friends with the van driver - you are presenting those 2 points as fact

    Yet you seem to have zero support to back up these “facts”

    So if you have evidence to support both of those points then provide that evidence, otherwise your 2 points can be ignored as just an idea that you seem to have come up with for no logical reason


  • #503
    nc6000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭nc6000


    Is there any footage which shows the dog?


  • #504
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    BBFAN wrote: »
    So you think that an off duty detective would stop and get involved in this situation if he didn't have some motive?

    Bless that you're that naïve.
    You're unreasonably cynical if you think they wouldn't.

    Most Gardai would get involved if they felt there was a serious threat. Off duty just means off shift. It doesn't mean they have no responsibility to get involved.


  • #505
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,288 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    BBFAN was all over the Casey thread defending travellers.
    He makes up a lot of stuff to suit his arguments.
    Pay no attention.
    He has been asked by posters to prove that the garda was off duty and that he had a pal there but seemingly and unsurprisingly cannot.


  • #506
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    There are two different stories being posted on whatsapp and facebook. One story by travellers and one by friends of the man who owns the van.
    In one story the detective is friends with the man who owns the van

    And even using bits from both stories I can't make judgment on what happened yet. Still lots of info missing.


  • #507
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Señor Santa Pants wrote: »
    What was the Detectives motive?

    That it was his mates van. Fairly simple.


  • #508
    saintsaltynuts
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,114 ✭✭✭saintsaltynuts


    https://youtu.be/ABhZQ_VRbsQ


  • #509
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,517 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    They're a cunt to put on, in fairness. And you usually need to have your top button closed for them to stay on, so it feels like you're getting strangled regardless.

    They're not.
    Get a shirt with the proper collar size, it's not that hard really.


  • #510
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    BBFAN wrote: »
    That it was his mates van. Fairly simple.

    Proof please.
    Not so simple now?


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  • #511
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    tayto lover wrote: »
    BBFAN was all over the Casey thread defending travellers.
    He makes up a lot of stuff to suit his arguments.
    Pay no attention.
    He has been asked by posters to prove that the garda was off duty and that he had a pal there but seemingly and unsurprisingly cannot.

    BBFAN has never defended travellers. I challenge you to produce a post where I have done so?


  • #512
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,288 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    BBFAN wrote: »
    That it was his mates van. Fairly simple.

    Proof?


  • #513
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    BBFAN wrote: »
    That it was his mates van. Fairly simple.

    Back that up please.

    Where's your source?

    Why was he with his "mate"?


  • #514
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    tuxy wrote: »
    There are two different stories being posted on whatsapp and facebook. One story by travellers and one by friends of the man who owns the van.
    In one story the detective is friends with the man who owns the van

    And even using bits from both stories I can't make judgment on what happened yet. Still lots of info missing.

    What's the other story? You only present one story here?


  • #515
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Señor Santa Pants wrote: »
    Back that up please.

    Where's your source?

    Why was he with his "mate"?

    No, I asked for proof first. That's the way it works son.


  • #516
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Proof?

    I asked for proof of the other version first. That's the way it works.


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  • #517
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    BBFAN wrote: »
    No, I asked for proof first. That's the way it works son.

    Proof that you have lost the plot?

    Well your post above is one example. You are refusing to provide proof of your comments, whilst simultaneously demanding other posters provide proof of their first.

    Lost.the.plot you have...

    ..and don't call me "son", it's Senor.

    Now, back up YOUR comments or shut up asking people to back up theirs.


  • #518
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,288 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    BBFAN wrote: »
    BBFAN has never defended travellers. I challenge you to produce a post where I have done so?

    I'm not going to search for your posts but if it wasn't you I apologise.
    However I still want proof of your own claims.


  • #519
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    BBFAN wrote: »
    No, I asked for proof first. That's the way it works son.

    You are presenting 2 items as pure fact
    1) that the guard and van driver are friends
    2) that the guard was off duty

    Now please back up those points that you are posting as facts, some evidence please


  • #520
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    BBFAN wrote: »
    No, I asked for proof first. That's the way it works son.

    You are presenting 2 items as pure fact
    1) that the guard and van driver are friends
    2) that the guard was off duty

    Now please back up those points that you are posting as facts, some evidence please


  • #521
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    tayto lover wrote: »


    I'm not going to search for your posts but if it wasn't you I apologise.
    However I still want proof of your own claims.

    So you have no proof that I've defended travellers?

    Good, I accept your apology.

    I present no proof for my claims here because no-one else in this thread has presented ANY proof for their claims therefore the burden of proof is lowered to the ground. As is the norm on AH as far as I can see.


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  • #522
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    BBFAN wrote: »
    So you have no proof that I've defended travellers?

    Good, I accept your apology.

    I present no proof for my claims here because no-one else in this thread has presented ANY proof for their claims therefore the burden of proof is lowered to the ground.

    LOL


  • #523
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,288 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    BBFAN wrote: »
    So you have no proof that I've defended travellers?

    Good, I accept your apology.

    I present no proof for my claims here because no-one else in this thread has presented ANY proof for their claims therefore the burden of proof is lowered to the ground.

    You have no proof then.


  • #524
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Señor Santa Pants wrote: »
    LOL

    I thought LOL went out of fashion when my 12 year old stopped saying it in the 2008?


  • #525
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    BBFAN wrote: »
    So you have no proof that I've defended travellers?

    Good, I accept your apology.

    I present no proof for my claims here because no-one else in this thread has presented ANY proof for their claims therefore the burden of proof is lowered to the ground.

    So all of your points can then be disregarded because they have no factual basis

    So please stop posting them as fact when they are nothing only your thoughts and opinions

    By the way, I have no idea if they were friends or if he was off duty, but I’m not making stupid assumptions either way


  • #526
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    tayto lover wrote: »
    You have no proof then.

    Same way you have no proof that I've ever defended travellers? Yes, you're correct.


  • #527
    MactheKnife90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭MactheKnife90


    Does anyone care?? Really? A scumbag being a scumbag threatening an armed Guard with his dog.
    He grabs the Guard-intent.
    The Guard is in imminent danger-Guard eliminates the danger.

    Whats the problem here? Apart from the Guard shouldnt have got himself within reach of the Scumbag but maybe he was trying to protect the man in the van.


  • #528
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Panch18 wrote: »
    So all of your points can then be disregarded because they have no factual basis

    So please stop posting them as fact when they are nothing only your thoughts and opinions

    By the way, I have no idea if they were friends or if he was off duty, but I’m not making stupid assumptions either way

    By your logic 99.9% of posts in this thread can be disregarded as none of them have any factual basis?

    I don't think you can tell me to stop posting? I think that's called back seat moderation?


  • #529
    irishproduce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,829 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    AmberGold wrote: »
    The Garda have to put up with some sh!te.

    Not only from the criminals but now he will be hauled over the coals and scrutinised for every little action he took during the incident.
    We should be proud and confident to allow our police force take necessary action without the chill effect they must feel in any incident where the knackers' rights are stacked against the guards.


  • #530
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    MactheKnife90 wrote: »
    Does anyone care?? Really? A scumbag being a scumbag threatening an armed Guard with his dog.
    He grabs the Guard-intent.
    The Guard is in imminent danger-Guard eliminates the danger.

    Whats the problem here? Apart from the Guard shouldnt have got himself within reach of the Scumbag but maybe he was trying to protect the man in the van.

    I care about an innocent dog being killed. Don't you?


  • #531
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    irishproduce wrote: »
    Not only from the criminals but now he will be hauled over the coals and scrutinised for every little action he took during the incident.
    We should be proud and confident to allow our police force take necessary action without the chill effect they must feel in any incident where the knackers' rights are stacked against the guards.

    You honestly think we should be proud of an obviously unstable individual killing a dog?


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  • #532
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Virgin Media news just played it. It's the same video. There is no clearer video


  • #533
    MactheKnife90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 165 ✭✭MactheKnife90


    BBFAN wrote: »
    I care about an innocent dog being killed. Don't you?

    An pity for sure but its handler threatened to use it as a weapon.
    Thats up to the authorities who allow any ars3hole to have a dog.

    Ive no doubt it was a fine animal in the wrong hands.


  • #534
    Nekarsulm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,219 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    BBFAN wrote: »
    You honestly think we should be proud of an obviously unstable individual killing a dog?

    You honestly believe we should be proud of the other characters involved? :D:D


  • #535
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    BBFAN wrote: »
    I thought LOL went out of fashion when my 12 year old stopped saying it in the 2008?

    Well, when I see someome acting like a child, I mirror them, hence the "LOL".

    Your argument of "im not showing you proof, if you dont show me proof" is beyond childish and in no way adds to discussion.

    You are in your 40's or early 50's and this is how you conduct yourself?

    My time is too valuable to interact with you.

    Goodbye.


  • #536
    Panch18
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭Panch18


    BBFAN wrote: »
    By your logic 99.9% of posts in this thread can be disregarded as none of them have any factual basis?

    I don't think you can tell me to stop posting? I think that's called back seat moderation?

    I’m not telling you to stop posting at all

    I’m asking you to stop posting bull**** as if it’s absolute fact when it clearly isn’t

    There’s a big difference


  • #537
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    You honestly believe we should be proud of the other characters involved? :D:D

    No? When did I say that? Think you're very confused.


  • #538
    dee75
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭dee75


    One news story saying dog was injured and ran off and GSOC trying to find it.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/gsoc-probes-longford-shooting-in


  • #539
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    BBFAN wrote:
    You honestly think we should be proud of an obviously unstable individual killing a dog?

    He's not unstable as evidenced by the fact he is armed. I suggest you look up the requirements and qualifications needed to be armed. You really are making a clown of yourself now


  • #540
    nc6000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭nc6000


    BBFAN wrote:
    I care about an innocent dog being killed. Don't you?


    What dog?


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  • #541
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Based on my experiences of how travellers treat animals the Garda probably did the dog a favour..


  • #542
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Panch18 wrote: »
    I’m not telling you to stop posting at all

    I’m asking you to stop posting bull**** as if it’s absolute fact when it clearly isn’t

    There’s a big difference

    No difference at all. 99.9% of posts in AH are not fact. Please show me all the posts in this thread which are absolute fact.

    I'm just following the trend and will continue to do so. Apparently it's not against the charter to make up **** so I can carry on doing that.

    As I've said you are not a moderator. If you have a problem with my posts please report.


  • #543
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    nc6000 wrote: »
    What dog?

    Another non fact.


    Mod-Banned


  • #544
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Based on my experiences of how travellers treat animals the Garda probably did the dog a favour..

    Another non fact.


  • #545
    emptyhouse2222
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭emptyhouse2222


    BBFAN wrote: »
    I care about an innocent dog being killed. Don't you?
    Rip toby


  • #546
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    nc6000 wrote: »
    What dog?

    Do you claim a dog wasn't shot? Proof please?

    I only ask because I'm asked for proof of everything I say.


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  • #547
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    BBFAN wrote: »
    Another non fact.

    Whats non factual about the history of travellers mistreating animals?


  • #548
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    BBFAN wrote: »
    You honestly think we should be proud of an obviously unstable individual killing a dog?
    The obviously unstable individual has trained the dog to attack people, in which case in this situation is an officer.

    This goes to show that the only way you can deal with travellers is armed.


  • #549
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    BBFAN wrote:
    I care about an innocent dog being killed. Don't you?


    Well then your issue is with the Traveller who caused the dags death by setting it on an armed guard.


  • #550
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    emptyhouse2222 wrote: »
    Rip toby

    Hilarious. Did you have to think about that for a long time from your smelly bed?


  • #551
    BBFAN
    Registered Users Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭BBFAN


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Whats non factual about the history of travellers mistreating animals?

    No proof. I'm asked for proof in AH then I want proof for every other post.


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