Winter 2019/2020 - General Discussion

Mortelaro · 20-12-2019 10:43am

Nice bright morning in Arklow
Currently 3.2 c
Low of 1.3c
Frost is clearing
Just 7.4mm here yesterday
Just 727.6 mm rain recorded here for the year so far
We're going to end up 100mm less than last year ,the year of the summer drought

Kutebride · 20-12-2019 12:09pm

The fog is just ugly and miserable. Meath

Gonzo · 20-12-2019 1:21pm

foggy after torrential rain for most of yesterday and heavy rain through most of the night. Dunsany getting close to 1000mm of rain for the year, something that is rarely ever achieved in this area. 2019 is certainly going to end up one of the wettest years in my lifetime, with the majority of it falling since August, particularly September to December. Looks reasonably unsettled right through to new years eve too.

Tigerandahalf · 20-12-2019 1:27pm

Mortelaro wrote: »

Nice bright morning in Arklow
Currently 3.2 c
Low of 1.3c
Frost is clearing
Just 7.4mm here yesterday
Just 727.6 mm rain recorded here for the year so far
We're going to end up 100mm less than last year ,the year of the summer drought

Comparing to Portugal I saw the following online.....

'In fact, annual precipitation amounts to 1,450 mm (57 inches) in Braga and 1,100 millimeters (45 in) in Porto, while it drops to around 900 mm (35 in) in Coimbra, to 700 mm (27.5 in) in Lisbon, and to about 500 mm (20 in) in Algarve.'
...

SleetAndSnow · 20-12-2019 4:28pm

Worst fog in years is say in cork city that I can remember anyway. Very dense still, thought it would have burnes off by now but can barely see Infront of you still. walking through the city atm.

Tabnabs · 20-12-2019 4:58pm

The most beautiful sunset in Dublin, wonderful to see such uninterrupted blue skies after all that rain.

Gonzo · 20-12-2019 5:03pm

sun appeared here for a little bit in the afternoon but it's starting to fog up again.

Oscar Bravo · 20-12-2019 5:03pm

Status Yellow - Fog warning for Ireland
Dense fog in many areas.

Valid: 4 p.m. today (Friday) until 10 a.m. tomorrow (Saturday)

SleetAndSnow · 20-12-2019 5:07pm

Oscar Bravo wrote: »

Status Yellow - Fog warning for Ireland
Dense fog in many areas.

Valid: 4 p.m. today (Friday) until 10 a.m. tomorrow (Saturday)

It's been dense fog here since 7am this.morning (possibly beforehand). Fogs always been an interesting weather pattern to me not sure why. It's just strange

Mortelaro · 20-12-2019 5:15pm

Beautiful day in Arklow today
Sun all day

SleetAndSnow · 20-12-2019 5:25pm

Fog lifting actually a bit in cork city and sun coming out for the sun set.

Mortelaro · 20-12-2019 5:28pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Comparing to Portugal I saw the following online.....

'In fact, annual precipitation amounts to 1,450 mm (57 inches) in Braga and 1,100 millimeters (45 in) in Porto, while it drops to around 900 mm (35 in) in Coimbra, to 700 mm (27.5 in) in Lisbon, and to about 500 mm (20 in) in Algarve.'
...

It does look a bit like the algarve mid summer here sometimes alright:D

Goldfinch8 · 20-12-2019 5:53pm

Patchy mist and fog throughout the day here. Found a glorious clear spot on the way to work between Charlestown and a few kilometres west of Ballaghaderreen this morning. Blue skies and a rising winter sun. It was heavenly but it wasn't long before I was driving back into the gloom again.
Fog seriously thickening east of Castlebar now as the night draws in. Shaping up to be a really foggy one tonight.

Rock Lesnar · 20-12-2019 6:13pm

Very foggy with poor visibility in meath today, feeling cool now

Carol25 · 20-12-2019 6:30pm

Fog has arrived back here in East Galway around sunset. It was quite something to hear the birds in the woods around dusk as the fog arrived. It sounded like a hive of activity in there. Their tweets were heard by us anyway!

Harry Palmr · 20-12-2019 7:06pm

Somewhat mucky day, dry but foggy start and now foggy again with a brief weak sunny bit in the middle.

Has anyone got a view on the pattern of low pressure systems this Autumn/winter? The track seems to be overwhelmingly across the southern/eastern flanks, with the same but more pronounced in the UK with a steady stream of wet weather pushing up from Biscay/France.

Gonzo · 20-12-2019 7:26pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Somewhat mucky day, dry but foggy start and now foggy again with a brief weak sunny bit in the middle.

Has anyone got a view on the pattern of low pressure systems this Autumn/winter? The track seems to be overwhelmingly across the southern/eastern flanks, with the same but more pronounced in the UK with a steady stream of wet weather pushing up from Biscay/France.

since September the jetstream has taken a slightly more southerly track, we've been on the cooler side of it much of the time and this has resulted in the heaviest of rains across southern and eastern Ireland, Wales, central and eastern England with up to 200% above normal rainfall in many of these areas and flooding at times. Central and eastern England has possibly had it even worse than us, they've had flooding alerts since October.

The north-west of Ireland and much of Scotland has not been hit nearly as bad with the rain and parts of Scotland are actually dryer than normal, due to the more southerly flow of the jet, this is my understanding of it anyway.

It appears that the jet is going to track further north again over the next few weeks, with milder air up from the south, so we may be at the peak of the deluges now. The next few weeks still look largely unsettled but perhaps not as wet as it has been over the past 3 to 4 months and we may build up areas of high pressure at times too.

Harry Palmr · 20-12-2019 7:29pm

I'm sick of it, us residents of the Côte de South East are just not used to this!

Gonzo · 20-12-2019 7:48pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'm sick of it, us residents of the Cde South East are just not used to this!

I'm absolutely fed up with it too, normally all I wish for in Winter is snow, but for now I think a few weeks of dry weather is essential if we are to even begin drying out the saturated land. All the ditches in our area are full to bursting point with water and fields have been water logged since October. The council have been out numerous times to clear floods and improve drainage. It really has been excessive.

Tigerandahalf · 20-12-2019 8:27pm

It has been very dull and wet in the west since the start of August when we had that day of the deluge. We got a good week in early/mid September and it has been poor since then. Very few blue sky days. A nice settled spell over Christmas/January wouldn't go amiss.

Meteorite58 · 20-12-2019 10:17pm

Fortunate to have had such a bright sunny day here in Tralee getting up to 9.1C

The fog showed up well on NASA Sat pic today.

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DumbBrunette · 20-12-2019 10:27pm

Do you have a link by any chance for these satellite pics??

Meteorite58 wrote: »

Fortunate to have had such a bright sunny day here in Tralee getting up to 9.1C

The fog showed up well on NASA Sat pic today.

Meteorite58 · 20-12-2019 10:29pm

DumbBrunette wrote: »

Do you have a link by any chance for these satellite pics??

Sure. Great resource to explore.

https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/

appledrop · 20-12-2019 10:50pm

Very bad fog from early morning in Kildare today.

We escaped it Dublin but it was very severe then this evening. Very dense + cold fog.

Mortelaro · 20-12-2019 10:59pm

Raining in Arklow now
4.6c
A 3c rise in the last hour

squarecircles · 20-12-2019 11:37pm

gfs 18z would bring a very frosty,cold seasonal christmas week with dazzling winter sunshine.

Kutebride · 21-12-2019 9:33am

The sun wont be shining in the chamber in Newgrange today. Fog continues in Meath.

Oscar Bravo · 21-12-2019 9:44am

Status Yellow - Fog warning for Ireland

Update: Fog will be slow to lift and will linger in some parts for much of Saturday. Becoming widespread and dense again on Saturday evening, but retreating to northern areas by Sunday morning.

Valid until Sunday 9 a.m.

SleetAndSnow · 21-12-2019 10:44am

Dense fog in cork city again this morning

SleetAndSnow · 21-12-2019 11:11am

https://twitter.com/trebography/status/1208325385127108613?s=19

Can't even see the city, only the water tank on the north side.

Rock Lesnar · 21-12-2019 12:11pm

Kutebride wrote: »

The sun wont be shining in the chamber in Newgrange today. Fog continues in Meath.

Yeah actually seems to be getting worse in my area, feeling cold to

squarecircles · 21-12-2019 12:30pm

Mele Kalikimaka is the thing to say on a mild midgety Irish Christmas Day
That's the island greeting that we send to you from the land where marigold flowers
sway Here we know that Christmas will be green and soft.

Theres still a kick in the sun on these calm clear winter days,it reminds me of winters in Spain.
should have the daffodil bulbs poping up now before new years eve,
as it has become tradition.There are rose buds still blossoming in a sheltered corner of the garden.
and to think some people deny climate change.Id imagine were one of the few locations in the northern hemisphere
where that is possible.

Oneiric 3 · 21-12-2019 12:44pm

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Yeah actually seems to be getting worse in my area, feeling cold to

Ditto here in Galway for the 2nd day running now. Remarkable lack of wind this month, despite the odd blip.

Gonzo · 21-12-2019 1:02pm

after some cool weather on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, looks like it's going to turn mild or exceptionally mild for at least a week. Temperatures could peak at 3 or 4C above normal around New Years which could get values on the ground to 13 or 14C. Some of the runs are going for +13 uppers over us which is very high for this time of the year.

If high pressure was to set up, this would still show a very mild temperature but on the ground inversion along with frosty nights would lower the daytime temperature significantly. Thankfully it doesn't look as wet as recent months, there will still be some rain or showers but the intense deluges look like they are over. Temperatures lower after New Years Day returning to more normal values.

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Mortelaro · 21-12-2019 1:14pm

Lovely sunny day in Arklow now
2nd vit D top up in a row

Gonzo · 21-12-2019 1:16pm

still kinda foggy here in Meath, very calm and settled. I'd take this any day over the heavy rain.

esposito · 21-12-2019 1:19pm

Gonzo wrote: »

after some cool weather on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, looks like it's going to turn mild or exceptionally mild for at least a week. Temperatures could peak at 3 or 4C above normal around New Years which could get values on the ground to 13 or 14C. Some of the runs are going for +13 uppers over us which is very high for this time of the year.

Why does it always have to get milder between Christmas Day and New Years in this country?! Every goddam year. Really grinds my gears.

Gonzo · 21-12-2019 1:27pm

esposito wrote: »

Why does it always have to get milder between Christmas Day and New Years in this country?! Every goddam year. Really grinds my gears.

in the 80s the reverse usually happened, you could often bank on seeing frost or snow during the Christmas holidays once the big day itself was over. In fairness there has been very little mild here since October with temperatures in the single digits most of the time.

esposito · 21-12-2019 1:46pm

Gonzo wrote: »

in the 80s the reverse usually happened, you could often bank on seeing frost or snow during the Christmas holidays once the big day itself was over. In fairness there has been very little mild here since October with temperatures in the single digits most of the time.

I well believe it Gonzo. Even as a kid in the mid 90s in particular I remember some very cold frosty conditions between Christmas and New Years. That seems to be too much to ask for nowadays.

Fingers and everything else crossed that these mild conditions won’t last long and we’ll be into a much colder pattern change just after New Years Day.

Billcarson · 21-12-2019 2:55pm

Its like since we hit winter nirvana in dec 2010 wintry weather around xmas has become almost non existent. Its almost as if we are still paying back for 2010 .

Billcarson · 21-12-2019 3:02pm

Gonzo wrote: »

in the 80s the reverse usually happened, you could often bank on seeing frost or snow during the Christmas holidays once the big day itself was over. In fairness there has been very little mild here since October with temperatures in the single digits most of the time.

For example between xmas day 85 and new yrs was very frosty if I recall.

Billcarson · 21-12-2019 3:08pm

esposito wrote: »

I well believe it Gonzo. Even as a kid in the mid 90s in particular I remember some very cold frosty conditions between Christmas and New Years. That seems to be too much to ask for nowadays.

Fingers and everything else crossed that these mild conditions won’t last long and we’ll be into a much colder pattern change just after New Years Day.

When it comes to the 90s, between xmas 92 and new yrs comes to mind for frosty weather and of course xmas 95, xmas 96 being a less cold version of 95 but chilly.

Logan Roy · 21-12-2019 3:25pm

Gonzo wrote: »

after some cool weather on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, looks like it's going to turn mild or exceptionally mild for at least a week. Temperatures could peak at 3 or 4C above normal around New Years which could get values on the ground to 13 or 14C. Some of the runs are going for +13 uppers over us which is very high for this time of the year.

If high pressure was to set up, this would still show a very mild temperature but on the ground inversion along with frosty nights would lower the daytime temperature significantly. Thankfully it doesn't look as wet as recent months, there will still be some rain or showers but the intense deluges look like they are over. Temperatures lower after New Years Day returning to more normal values.

There’s very little chance of it being 13/14 degrees the same way if it was snow there wouldn’t be much chance.

Gonzo · 21-12-2019 3:40pm

Logan Roy wrote: »

There’s very little chance of it being 13/14 degrees the same way if it was snow there wouldn’t be much chance.

I wouldn't discount it. We often get 13C in the winter. Most of last winter was in the 12 and 13C range, we hit close to 18C in February which was exceptional so anythings possible. I don't think 13C or 14C in December is unusual unless it carries on for weeks.

Mortelaro · 21-12-2019 4:20pm

Currently 4.8c in Arklow

https://twitter.com/Arklowweather/status/1208400920289169409?s=19

Meteorite58 · 21-12-2019 8:10pm

Biggest gust so far of 173 km/h in Punta de Estaca de Bares . Huge winds there that last 7 hours or so.

Big electrical Storms also moving through Biscay

Gaoth Laidir · 21-12-2019 8:56pm

That station is Spain's Malin Head. The anemometer is located what looks like more than 10 metres above the lighthouse, which itself is on a headland 80 m amsl. Other stations in the area are reporting speeds way lower than that.

But it's still a very impressive speed for a non-convective system in that area.

Meteorite58 · 21-12-2019 9:04pm

Yeah, very exposed there.

Getting up over 100km/h along the coast of France , 120 km/h Cape Ferret

Gaoth Laidir · 21-12-2019 9:31pm

That station had a slightly stronger gust of 177 km/h during the next hour, at 18.40Z, just after the analysis below. The strongest gradient right in that area.

Jimbob1977 · 21-12-2019 9:39pm

Dense fog in Limerick.

About 3c

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