Is it time to stop eating meat?

OldMrBrennan83 · 02-02-2017 8:46pm

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SEPT 23 1989 · 02-02-2017 8:47pm

...And Justice wrote: »

I have family that are "extremist vegans" and it's fcuking embarrassing tbh. We went out for pints before Christmas and at the end of the night , we all decided to go for chipper across the road. I ordered my food, so did the wife, the niece proceeded to ask for garlic mushrooms, which is fine she doesn't eat meat. What happened was embarrassing.

"can you change the oil?, I know you've cooked southern fried chicken and fish in that, CHANGE THE OIL NOW OR I WILL NOT BE BUYING YOUR SHÍTE, YOU MAKE ME SICK........ BUTCHERS THE LOT OF YOU, EVERYONE IN HERE>>>>> WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE EATEN?..............HUH.......HUHHHHHHHHHH?

I fcuked off and left her there, Muppet.

Surprised they had the strength to hold a pint with that oddball diet

vasch_ro · 02-02-2017 8:48pm

TeddyTedson wrote: »

First off I will admit that I absolutely love and adore the taste of meat.
There is no better feeling than waking up with a hangover on a Sunday morning and being treated to a plate packed with sausages and bacon by your significant other.

However, having so many farmed animals on the planet is a major factor in terms of climate change. People feel so passionately about protecting the planet and there is directive of being green in terms of many aspects of industry. This is people driven. I'm just wondering if we a species will eventually come to the conclusion that in order to survive we will need to all change our diets?

I'm intrigued to find out how other people feel about it. I personally feel like I am addicted to meat and cannot imagine myself being able to quit. Would we start to see sausages start appearing on the black market if we were to ban eating meat similar to crystal meth and ketamine?

Try it for a week and see how you get on, I was in the same boat as you, myself and family for the month of Jan. haven't looked back, my wife found the lack of Sunday roast hard but that's about it, had a work night out in Box Burger in Bray had their avocado burger dish very good, challenge yourself to a week and see what you think.

goat2 · 02-02-2017 8:49pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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there is, but if you read the back of the packs there is a big percent that is not pork, i wish there could be the option of this other meat for those who want it, as i say, i make my own burgers to suit my taste, but dont eat sausages for the same reason I dont eat frozen burgers, some of the ingredients i have never heard of before all preservatives

goat2 · 02-02-2017 8:51pm

Patww79 wrote: »

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they are hardy bucks, eat anything,

...And Justice · 02-02-2017 8:54pm

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Surprised they had the strength to hold a pint with that oddball diet

This particular person is magnolia in colour and is like a skeleton, obviously the lack of proper nourishment is affecting the brain cells. Seriously, she's always sick too, you cant live off grass.

I píssed her off one day, she said she only eats vegetables, and I said "how do you think they grow?" which she replied "the sun and water", I replied that they are sprayed with pig shíte..............she vomited for 30 mins, now it's cardboard and toilet roll for dessert.

Numpty.

Dr Crayfish · 02-02-2017 8:54pm

...And Justice wrote: »

"can you change the oil?, I know you've cooked southern fried chicken and fish in that, CHANGE THE OIL NOW OR I WILL NOT BE BUYING YOUR SHÍTE, YOU MAKE ME SICK........ BUTCHERS THE LOT OF YOU, EVERYONE IN HERE.....! WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE EATEN?..............HUH.......HUHHHHHHHHHH?

I fcuked off and left her there, Muppet.

So what's your point? That your niece is a total idiot?

Dr Crayfish · 02-02-2017 8:55pm

...And Justice wrote: »

I píssed her off one day, she said she only eats vegetables, and I said "how do you think they grow?" which she replied "the sun and water", I replied that they are sprayed with pig shíte..............she vomited for 30 mins, now it's cardboard and toilet roll for dessert.

Numpty.

Yeah that definitely happened!

DoozerT6 · 02-02-2017 8:56pm

...And Justice wrote: »

I have family that are "extremist vegans" and it's fcuking embarrassing tbh. We went out for pints before Christmas and at the end of the night , we all decided to go for chipper across the road. I ordered my food, so did the wife, the niece proceeded to ask for garlic mushrooms, which is fine she doesn't eat meat. What happened was embarrassing.

"can you change the oil?, I know you've cooked southern fried chicken and fish in that, CHANGE THE OIL NOW OR I WILL NOT BE BUYING YOUR SHÍTE, YOU MAKE ME SICK........ BUTCHERS THE LOT OF YOU, EVERYONE IN HERE.....! WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE EATEN?..............HUH.......HUHHHHHHHHHH?

I fcuked off and left her there, Muppet.

Ah here. I'm considering veganism myself, but I would never be as obnoxious as that about it. Actually, I would probably be a terrible vegan - I really think I wouldn't be too bothered about that sort of cross-contamination: in that scenario, I've already spoken with my money anyway, and purchased a non-meat option. If you're a vegan and eating in places like that, the chance of cross-contamination is very real. Either accept it and eat the feckin' chips, or bring a snack in your bag that you can have at the end of the night when everyone else is queueing up in the chipper.

...And Justice · 02-02-2017 8:57pm

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

So what's your point? That your niece is a total idiot?

Numpties on their extremist vegan diet preaching to the world is my point. I don't care, I eat what I want, don't force your views on everyone else.

...And Justice · 02-02-2017 8:58pm

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Yeah that definitely happened!

It did.

Grandeeod · 02-02-2017 9:01pm

vasch_ro wrote: »

Try it for a week and see how you get on, I was in the same boat as you, myself and family for the month of Jan. haven't looked back, my wife found the lack of Sunday roast hard but that's about it, had a work night out in Box Burger in Bray had their avocado burger dish very good, challenge yourself to a week and see what you think.

I've done the meat free week or two and felt ****. I like to cook and chicken would be my preferred meat for a lot of recipes. I enjoy red meat and pork from time to time. Roast beef, Pork fillet. Lamb I'm not so keen on. Funnily enough, my other half would have less appreciation for quality meat and when I met her would have no problem devouring a burger, but wouldn't touch a slow roasted cut of beef. Despite her love of "processed" meat, she probaby has more meat free days than I do. No problem for her to exist on pasta, eggs and cheese for weeks on end. But she wouldn't hesitate in ordering a takeaway burger after a night out. I would. Personally I find a balanced diet of various decent meats is acceptable to my taste. As for the damage its doing to the planet, I have limited knowledge of that so can't comment.

Dr Crayfish · 02-02-2017 9:02pm

...And Justice wrote: »

Numpties on their extremist vegan diet preaching to the world is my point. I don't care, I eat what I want, don't force your views on everyone else.

Who's f**king forcing views on anyone? I hate this. People get so insecure about the idea of eating less meat - it's immediately responded to with "JESUS CHRIST STOP RAMMING YOUR VIEWS DOWN MY THROAT".

DoozerT6 · 02-02-2017 9:03pm

...And Justice wrote: »

Numpties on their extremist vegan diet preaching to the world is my point. I don't care, I eat what I want, don't force your views on everyone else.

The extremists colour everyone's view on vegetarianism/veganism though

I'm veggie, but you'd never know unless you asked me directly about what I was eating. I generally just mind my own business while following my own set of ideals. I'd be the same if I went vegan. I'm not an activist. But you know what? The world needs activists in all fields or nothing would ever change (not talking about veganism in particular here).

Outspoken people are needed to make the rest of us think, whether that makes us uncomfortable or not.

goat2 · 02-02-2017 9:04pm

I dont know the difference between vegetarian and vegan, but i am neither, just a person that has cut back on meat, still like meat but in way smaller portions, and skipping meat some days,

andekwarhola · 02-02-2017 9:05pm

Zaph wrote: »

I'd start eating my own limbs before I'd resort to becoming a veggie.

That would technically be carnivorous.

...And Justice · 02-02-2017 9:08pm

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

Who's f**king forcing views on anyone? I hate this. People get so insecure about the idea of eating less meat - it's immediately responded to with "JESUS CHRIST STOP RAMMING YOUR VIEWS DOWN MY THROAT".

She was and I was disgusted, so every time shes here I have meat and gravy at the ready.

Dr Crayfish · 02-02-2017 9:10pm

...And Justice wrote: »

She was and I was disgusted, so every time shes here I have meat and gravy at the ready.

Well it sounds like you both deserve each other tbh

Kat1170 · 02-02-2017 9:14pm

Every animal I eat is one less animal killing the planet, the taste is just a happy coincidence

:D

TeddyTedson · 02-02-2017 9:15pm

Todd Gack wrote: »

I think there is

Don't worry that was intentional.
Hangovers have become hell for this little bear.

I have been thinking about cutting out meat for sometime now so I guess I'll have to give it ago and see how I get on. I imagine it's a hard process to being but once you've adapted maintained quite easily. We all struggle changing habits, it just requires a little effort.

Flint Fredstone · 02-02-2017 9:16pm

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

God you're so hilarious
No but really that kind of makes you a bit of an assh*le.

There's only one person in this thread behaving like an asshole...

...And Justice · 02-02-2017 9:17pm

Kat1170 wrote: »

Every animal I eat is one less animal killing the planet, the taste is just a happy coincidence :D

With a lot of mint for lamb.....hmmmmm, it's all over the place here in west Wicklow, nothing like a bit of Wicklow meat. :pac::pac::pac:

Kat1170 · 02-02-2017 9:22pm

You should try the wild Venison OMG

:D

Grandeeod · 02-02-2017 9:33pm

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Don't worry that was intentional.
Hangovers have become hell for this little bear.

I have been thinking about cutting out meat for sometime now so I guess I'll have to give it ago and see how I get on. I imagine it's a hard process to being but once you've adapted maintained quite easily. We all struggle changing habits, it just requires a little effort.

While I love my black and white pudding, rashers and sausages with beans on a Sunday morning, I more often than not just have eggs and beans on some brown soda bread to sort the hangover, if I have one. Just as nice. I'm a meat man, but too much meat regularly just grinds you down. I get your OP and I get the input from others regarding toning the meat down.

Beasty · 02-02-2017 9:37pm

Zaph wrote: »

I'd start eating my own limbs before I'd resort to becoming a veggie.

I'd help you before I started eating real meat...

:pac:

Lady Haywire · 02-02-2017 9:38pm

Why can't we all just agree that everyone is different, eat what you feel like eating and just don't be an absolute pr1ck about what others are having

We farm cattle here yet I eat very little meat, was even out at the weekend at a steakhouse and had a veggie burger!
The only thing I can't abide is mistreatment of animals, so what meat i do eat tends to come from an organic butcher or direct from source. I've served my time in a meat factory too so I do know which places aren't as fussy about age/breed etc when it comes to beef.

Water John · 02-02-2017 9:50pm

Putting forward the notion that a vegan would eat any thing from a chipper is a joke. Just did not happen.
A vegeterian would generally not mind, have the fish.

I haven't read the links put up by Buford but real proof is needed of the environmental effects of diff animals.
We know beef and grass eating animals are the highest producers.

Quite rarely eat beef, despite having sucklers. Similar to Lady H.
Actually prefer fish to meat generally.

I think many other changes to lifestyle would have a beneficial effect on environment.
Whilst a reduction in animal numbers would have an effect on Ireland GHG graph. Not sure of the overall international effect.

eviltwin · 02-02-2017 9:53pm

Doesn't have to be all or nothing. Even cutting meat out just once a week is good for the environment and your health. Anyway it's a personal choice. No one should be made feel bad for eating meat or not eating it.

osarusan · 02-02-2017 9:55pm

I too have outlandish anecdotes that conveniently portray my ideological opposites in a negative light.

the_syco · 02-02-2017 10:28pm

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Would we start to see sausages start appearing on the black market if we were to ban eating meat similar to crystal meth and ketamine?

"This sausage taste like chicken"

I'd say you'd get more people being cannibals.

...And Justice · 02-02-2017 11:32pm

Water John wrote: »

Putting forward the notion that a vegan would eat any thing from a chipper is a joke. Just did not happen.
A vegeterian would generally not mind, have the fish.

I haven't read the links put up by Buford but real proof is needed of the environmental effects of diff animals.
We know beef and grass eating animals are the highest producers.

Quite rarely eat beef, despite having sucklers. Similar to Lady H.
Actually prefer fish to meat generally.

I think many other changes to lifestyle would have a beneficial effect on environment.
Whilst a reduction in animal numbers would have an effect on Ireland GHG graph. Not sure of the overall international effect.

Unless the vegan wanted attention, since she's a vegan extremist.. it doesn't surprise me, anything for attention.

Water John · 02-02-2017 11:33pm

Turkey sausages and rashers are quite nice.

Nonoperational · 02-02-2017 11:38pm

God if you even needed confirmation that the world is full of weirdos you wouldn't need to look much further than boards.

02-02-2017 11:55pm

I have meat with lunch and dinner everyday (and with my breakfast fry every sat and sun) and the devil himself won't change that. So the answer is very much NO.

ben.schlomo · 03-02-2017 12:10am

Addisyn Tiny Coyote wrote: »

I have meat with lunch and dinner everyday (and with my breakfast fry every sat and sun) and the devil himself won't change that. So the answer is very much NO.

I agree with nox, I feel dirty now!!!!!!

Dylar · 03-02-2017 12:15am

Not enough people will give up meat or reduce their consumption to have any significant effect on climate change.

Processes being developed to convert methane to methanol are a much more realistic solution. There's been some important developments recently and hopefully that continues.

prinzeugen · 03-02-2017 12:23am

Our eyes face forward, as do cats, dogs and other predators. We are supposed to hunt and eat meat.

If our eyes were on the side, like bunny rabbits, then we should eat veg.

Evolution baby!

Angel Crow · 03-02-2017 12:28am

Addisyn Tiny Coyote wrote: »

I have meat with lunch and dinner everyday (and with my breakfast fry every sat and sun) and the devil himself won't change that. So the answer is very much NO.

A heart attack in your 40s will though.

Angel Crow · 03-02-2017 12:31am

prinzeugen wrote: »

Our eyes face forward, as do cats, dogs and other predators. We are supposed to hunt and eat meat.

If our eyes were on the side, like bunny rabbits, then we should eat veg.

Evolution baby!

What about eagles? Side eyes and predators = flawed logic.

Mountainsandh · 03-02-2017 12:32am

I often think the same as you OP. I don't think stopping altogether is required, but eating meat less often, definitely yes.

I've glimpsed at articles about the production and shipping of pulses, and whatever alternate protein rich foods are needed to replace meat, and it seems a complete stop wouldn't help the planet dramatically. From quick glimpses only . Look at the fuss about avocados at the moment.

Every week I think I'll cook less meat for my family, but it falls by the wayside when they all expect it nearly daily.

I can and will work on it though, I think nutritionally and ecologically it makes sense to have it less often.

Gwynplaine · 03-02-2017 12:33am

I wouldn't last a week without meat.

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-02-2017 12:36am

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2forjoy · 03-02-2017 12:40am

meat in moderation same as everything else

prinzeugen · 03-02-2017 12:46am

Angel Crow wrote: »

What about eagles? Side eyes and predators = flawed logic.

Last time I looked, birds of prey, look forward.

Google Kestrels, Buzzards, Eagles, Owls, etc etc

I am still waiting on someone to say that meat is made in a factory so we don't need to kill animals....

wakka12 · 03-02-2017 12:49am

Fake meat, produced in laboratories using stem cells will replace animal meat. Meat production mostly cattle farming is hugely harmful to the environment and if we want the planet to survive then it simply needs to stop

Angel Crow · 03-02-2017 1:04am

Patww79 wrote: »

Yeah meat is the only factor towards that. Absolute rubbish.

Who said it was? Meat with every meal is desperately unhealthy, and unnecessary. And I'm not a vegetarian.

Angel Crow · 03-02-2017 1:07am

prinzeugen wrote: »

Last time I looked, birds of prey, look forward.

Google Kestrels, Buzzards, Eagles, Owls, etc etc

I am still waiting on someone to say that meat is made in a factory so we don't need to kill animals....

What do evolutionary traits have to do with the lifestyle of the modern human? We didn't develop thumbs to use iPhones. Not sure forwards facing eyes mean we simply have to eat meat.

Gorillas being a good example.

Graces7 · 03-02-2017 5:56am

eviltwin wrote: »

Doesn't have to be all or nothing. Even cutting meat out just once a week is good for the environment and your health. Anyway it's a personal choice. No one should be made feel bad for eating meat or not eating it.

Amen to this. Why labels?

I have stopped eating more than a very small occasional bit of any meat over the years. Nearing 80 and the body changes! Also living deep rural does affect how we see critters. Hand raising twin lambs saw to that.

Red meat is totally out now. For me.

Partly it was the cost. On a pension you think of these things. Partly swallowing problems. And as others have found, you soon lose the taste for meat.

Sometimes a yen for eg bacon and eggs which I do eat occasionally...as in one rasher! And my critters, cats, are obligate carnivores so they get raw chicken every day. I used to eat some of the white meat but have even all but gone off that now.

It is a process. Not an event. And no way would I ever preach etc; this is totally personal choice.

Graces7 · 03-02-2017 9:09am

MarchFreeze wrote: »

We aren't gorillas, we need red neat for optimal health.

marksdailyapple.com/will-eating-red-meat-kill-you/

Not true. One size does not fit all in human terms. Meat makes you sluggish as it takes a lot of digesting. To me now, meat is...yukk!

Shenshen · 03-02-2017 9:16am

prinzeugen wrote: »

Our eyes face forward, as do cats, dogs and other predators. We are supposed to hunt and eat meat.

If our eyes were on the side, like bunny rabbits, then we should eat veg.

Evolution baby!

So.... sharks are herbivores? And koalas hunt and eat meat?

Humans are omnivores, the reason our eyes face forward is because we evolved from tree-dwelling monkeys. You don't get far jumping from branch to branch if you don't have depth-perception.

Eat what you like, but don't pretend that you don't have a choice because bad science.

Is it time to stop eating meat?

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