Your favourite unsolved mystery?

Gimme A Pound · 16-05-2019 1:37am

Three cases of women disappearing when on a cruise liner. Downright eerie some of them:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Amy_Lynn_Bradley

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Rebecca_Coriam

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Natalee_Holloway

Oops! · 16-05-2019 1:45am

Rebekah Eager Quitter wrote: »

Three cases of women disappearing when on a cruise liner. Downright eerie some of them:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Amy_Lynn_Bradley

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Rebecca_Coriam

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Natalee_Holloway

In all fairness, god rest their souls but it's easy to see where they ended up.
Just no c**t was convicted of it.

the_syco · 16-05-2019 1:49am

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

The Black Knight

20 facts about the Black Knight

I do still wonder about it, though.

oneilla · 16-05-2019 1:51am

The Voynich manuscript may have been decoded - https://phys.org/news/2019-05-bristol-academic-voynich-code-century-old.html

Gimme A Pound · 16-05-2019 2:10am

Oops! wrote: »

In all fairness, god rest their souls but it's easy to see where they ended up.
Just no c**t was convicted of it.

Yeah true in relation to the Americans - perhaps Amy Lynn is still alive though (but perhaps not, god help her).

The British girl though, Rebecca - that case is weirder imo.

Oops! · 16-05-2019 2:13am

I understand what your saying.... but id say they all ended up the same way if the choose to or not.

Day Lewin · 16-05-2019 8:04am

oneilla wrote: »

The Voynich manuscript may have been decoded - https://phys.org/news/2019-05-bristol-academic-voynich-code-century-old.html

Proto-Romance language, eh? I'm not convinced...

razorblunt · 16-05-2019 9:02am

Rebekah Eager Quitter wrote: »

Yeah true in relation to the Americans - perhaps Amy Lynn is still alive though (but perhaps not, god help her).

The British girl though, Rebecca - that case is weirder imo.

That Bradley girl, she was last seen on the balcony of the cabin asleep.
Had she left the room she'd have been caught on the hallway cameras, right?

She had to have jumped or fallen (got the spins in her hangover?).
How can they be so confident its "very unlikely she fell?"

Rebecca Coriam's was settled out of court, I'd say Disney Cruises had more info than they let on.

GoneHome · 17-06-2019 8:26am

Fascinating report by Rosita Boland in last Saturday's Irish Times about Peter Bergmann, who's body was found washed up on Rosses Point beach ten years ago this week. So many unanswered questions even down to the basic fact that he has never been identified.
Link to the report here:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/the-unsolved-mystery-of-peter-bergmann-1.3923308

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 17-06-2019 8:41am

GoneHome wrote: »

Fascinating report by Rosita Boland in last Saturday's Irish Times about Peter Bergmann, who's body was found washed up on Rosses Point beach ten years ago this week. So many unanswered questions even down to the basic fact that he has never been identified.
Link to the report here:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/the-unsolved-mystery-of-peter-bergmann-1.3923308

Really strange one...

Hector Savage · 17-06-2019 9:46am

rusty cole wrote: »

best ever.. I recall reading this in my schoolbook in English as a kid

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil%27s_Footprints

Wow ! I remember reading about it too in school, thanks for that !

Hamsterchops · 18-06-2019 4:15pm

Lord Lucan.

... also, that poor woman who disappeared a few years ago in Bray Co Wicklow.
Her car was last seen driving up the promenade, it was parked, and that was the last time she was ever seen!

Presuming she was driving the car?

ToBeFrank123 · 18-06-2019 4:31pm

Its a myth that most of these mysteries remain unsolved.

Most have been solved, mainly in scientific journals and tv programs. There is a perfectly logical answer to them all. Many are human fabrications such as crop circles, big foot, etc.

Insect Overlord · 18-06-2019 4:39pm

ToBeFrank123 wrote: »

Its a myth that most of these mysteries remain unsolved.

Most have been solved, mainly in scientific journals and tv programs. There is a perfectly logical answer to them all. Many are human fabrications such as crop circles, big foot, etc.

They're great stories though. That's what makes many of them "favourites" in this thread, rather than their being solved or otherwise as time goes on.

uck51js9zml2yt · 18-06-2019 4:41pm

I still don't know how they get the figs into the fig rolls:)

vriesmays · 18-06-2019 4:58pm

That was funny the first post not the 25th.

Loafing Oaf · 18-06-2019 5:00pm

LordSutch wrote: »

The Jill Dando case always baffles me.

Like why?

Me too. The most logical perpetrators in terms of motive would be a jilted former lover or some weirdo loner in the mould of Barry George (but not Barry himself, I hasten to add if his lawyers are reading). But neither of those would seem to tally with the apparent professionalism of the hit. If there was a prime suspect in either of those categories I'm sure word would have leaked out from the cops at this stage, given the level of interest in the case.

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 18-06-2019 6:14pm

Dyatlov Pass incident. 9 Hikers died in mysterious circumstances hiking in the Ural mountains in the Soviet Union, 1959.

chicorytip · 18-06-2019 11:15pm

Loafing Oaf wrote:

Me too. The most logical perpetrators in terms of motive would be a jilted former lover or some weirdo loner in the mould of Barry George (but not Barry himself, I hasten to add if his lawyers are reading). But neither of those would seem to tally with the apparent professionalism of the hit. If there was a prime suspect in either of those categories I'm sure word would have leaked out from the cops at this stage, given the level of interest in the case.

Why not Barry himself? I think they got the right man. Whatever about his motive - he's a madman, obviously - he was certainly capable of using a firearm with the intention of killing. The list of alternative suspects is very short indeed. Why? Because, there are none.

chicorytip · 18-06-2019 11:16pm

Loafing Oaf wrote:

Me too. The most logical perpetrators in terms of motive would be a jilted former lover or some weirdo loner in the mould of Barry George (but not Barry himself, I hasten to add if his lawyers are reading). But neither of those would seem to tally with the apparent professionalism of the hit. If there was a prime suspect in either of those categories I'm sure word would have leaked out from the cops at this stage, given the level of interest in the case.

Why not Barry himself? I think they got the right man. Whatever about his motive - he's a madman, obviously - he was certainly capable of using a firearm with the intention of killing. The list of alternative suspects is very short indeed. Why? Because, there are none.

Father Hernandez · 19-06-2019 12:22pm

chicorytip wrote: »

Why not Barry himself? I think they got the right man. Whatever about his motive - he's a madman, obviously - he was certainly capable of using a firearm with the intention of killing. The list of alternative suspects is very short indeed. Why? Because, there are none.

An interesting theory I read before was Dando knew too much about Jimmy Saville during the 90s and other 'pedophilia rings'. Tried to alert the BBC bosses but nothing was done. She was deemed to have known too much and could be a potential reason as to what happened to her.

ohnonotgmail · 19-06-2019 12:26pm

chicorytip wrote: »

Why not Barry himself? I think they got the right man. Whatever about his motive - he's a madman, obviously - he was certainly capable of using a firearm with the intention of killing. The list of alternative suspects is very short indeed. Why? Because, there are none.

you mean apart from the three witnesses who placed him somewhere else at the time of the murder?

Edgware · 19-06-2019 12:30pm

They should check out dog walkers more thoroughly. How many times have bodies being found by "a man out walking his dog" ?

Ash.J.Williams · 19-06-2019 12:42pm

Father Hernandez wrote: »

An interesting theory I read before was Dando knew too much about Jimmy Saville during the 90s and other 'pedophilia rings'. Tried to alert the BBC bosses but nothing was done. She was deemed to have known too much and could be a potential reason as to what happened to her.

thanks for summmerising a 15 hour david icke lecture into one sentence

razorblunt · 19-06-2019 12:46pm

Edgware wrote: »

They should check out dog walkers more thoroughly. How many times have bodies being found by "a man out walking his dog" ?

Why don't they just make airplanes out of the black box material?

maccored · 19-06-2019 12:50pm

Why did the Catholic Church close down their 'St Patrick's Purgatory' pilgrimage site on Saints Island on Lough Derg in the late 1400's and then make a new version of it on Station Island next to it - and still to this day deny that's the case (even though history says otherwise). Nevermind they had to make Station Island larger as it was smaller than Saints Island. I find that a fecken mystery

Loafing Oaf · 19-06-2019 12:55pm

chicorytip wrote: »

The list of alternative suspects is very short indeed. Why? Because, there are none.

In fairness to the cops, if the killer was somebody in the mould of what Barry George was alleged to be - a weirdo loner who wanted to kill a celeb for their own private kicks - where do you start looking for somebody like that in a city of ten million people? I'm sure they got reports of guys like that acting even more strangely than usual round the time of the murder, but the trail had gone very cold by the time George's conviction was quashed.

Capt'n Midnight · 19-06-2019 9:18pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Why don't they just make airplanes out of the black box material?

Because they are orange. Hmmm maybe Easyjet could use it ?

Cars have crumple zones to soften the impact. If you were on an aeroplane made out of black box material you'd end up as a stain on the bulkhead.

razorblunt · 20-06-2019 8:41am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Because they are orange. Hmmm maybe Easyjet could use it ?

Cars have crumple zones to soften the impact. If you were on an aeroplane made out of black box material you'd end up as a stain on the bulkhead.

Airplane food, what's up with that?

odyssey06 · 20-06-2019 8:51am

razorblunt wrote: »

Airplane food, what's up with that?

Your taste buds work differently in plane environment \ cabin pressure.

Up Donegal · 20-06-2019 10:02am

How do they get the figs into the fig rolls?

dinorebel · 20-06-2019 12:07pm

Up Donegal wrote: »

How do they get the figs into the fig rolls?

10/10 for originality :rolleyes:

NoviGlitzko · 20-06-2019 1:34pm

How do they get the figs into the fig rolls

Trekker09 · 20-06-2019 1:40pm

I'd like to know how my stunning, funny, smart wife know I'm about to write something about her and proceeds to look over my shoulder?

Force Carrier · 20-06-2019 1:47pm

Trekker09 wrote: »

I'd like to know how my stunning, funny, smart wife know I'm about to write something about her and proceeds to look over my shoulder?

micro tells in your body language or demeanor which she picks up on consciously or subconsciously

fxotoole · 20-06-2019 1:49pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Why don't they just make airplanes out of the black box material?

Aluminum is easier to get off the ground, weight wise

20-06-2019 2:46pm

Steyr 556 wrote: »

Dyatlov Pass incident. 9 Hikers died in mysterious circumstances hiking in the Ural mountains in the Soviet Union, 1959.

There is a video game based on this called Kholat.

Capt'n Midnight · 20-06-2019 9:10pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Airplane food, what's up with that?

Cabin pressure would be set to seven or eight thousand feet.

So you loose your appetite and your taste buds go on a work to rule.
The recycled air doesn't help.

And the food is made by the lowest tender.

Gimme A Pound · 20-06-2019 9:20pm

GoneHome wrote: »

Fascinating report by Rosita Boland in last Saturday's Irish Times about Peter Bergmann, who's body was found washed up on Rosses Point beach ten years ago this week. So many unanswered questions even down to the basic fact that he has never been identified.
Link to the report here:
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/the-unsolved-mystery-of-peter-bergmann-1.3923308

Podcast just released too.

Day Lewin · 20-06-2019 10:33pm

A really clear account of the Bergmann case.

I'm surprised they haven't matched the DNA yet - or at least partly matched to some kind of family.

There are unsettling similiarities to The Somerton Man. https://allthatsinteresting.com/tamam-shud-somerton-man

1o059k7ewrqj3n · 20-06-2019 11:01pm

Day Lewin wrote: »

A really clear account of the Bergmann case.

I'm surprised they haven't matched the DNA yet - or at least partly matched to some kind of family.

There are unsettling similiarities to The Somerton Man. https://allthatsinteresting.com/tamam-shud-somerton-man

I think Irish Times or Irish Examiner just carried an article on the Peter Bergmann case. It's quite a mystery, but also quite sad. It's clear the man came to Ireland to die and to die quietly. His cancer or cancers were quite advanced and he would have been in a lot of pain, I think they found only aspirin on him or in his system (that was detectable in the autopsy anyway).

It reminded me of a story I read once about a guy who moved into a rundown part of LA, very cheap, low cost but very poor. In the 1990s it became a haven for gay men to move to and to die cheaply and quietly of AIDS.

There could be more to Bergmann but the methodical approach he had to his own end is not something you see very often.

Somerton man is an amazing read! Especially because something similar happened before his death.

WIKIPEDIA wrote:

In June 1945 – three years before the death of the Somerton Man – a 34-year-old Singaporean named George Marshall (born Joseph Saul Haim Mashal) was found dead in Ashton Park, Mosman, Sydney, with an open copy of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam on his chest.[100] Ashton Park is directly adjacent to Clifton Gardens. His death is believed to be a suicide by poisoning, and occurred two months before Harkness gave Boxall the inscribed copy of the Rubaiyat. Marshall was a brother of David Marshall, who was later to become Singapore's first Chief Minister. An inquest was held on 15 August 1945; Gwenneth Dorothy Graham testified at the inquest and was found dead 13 days later face down, naked, in a bath with her wrists slit.[101][102]

castletownman · 20-06-2019 11:08pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabant_killers

This one is pretty cool. Never heard tale of it until I read Bill Bryson's book about his travels across Europe.

Essentially in the 80s a troupe of bandits would carry out random armed robberies across Belgium (in the province of Brabant), often with high caliber weapons, but take very little cash. 28 people died as a result of their crime spree and their identities are still unknown. All they had were three suspects: "The Giant", "The Killer" and "The Old Man".

Failure to solve the case led to a reform in the Belgian police. Interesting story all told.

razorblunt · 21-06-2019 11:53am

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Cabin pressure would be set to seven or eight thousand feet.

So you loose your appetite and your taste buds go on a work to rule.
The recycled air doesn't help.

And the food is made by the lowest tender.

Ah lads these weren't serious questions like!

But thanks anyway!

odyssey06 · 21-06-2019 11:56am

razorblunt wrote: »

Ah lads these weren't serious questions like!
But thanks anyway!

You triggered the automatic answering service. It was an involuntary response.

It's like the scene in Hitchcock's The 39 Steps when Mr Memory is asked what the 39 Steps are...

razorblunt · 21-06-2019 12:41pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

You triggered the automatic answering service. It was an involuntary response.

It's like the scene in Hitchcock's The 39 Steps when Mr Memory is asked what the 39 Steps are...

Eh ...

What are the 39 Steps?

odyssey06 · 21-06-2019 1:14pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Eh ...
What are the 39 Steps?

Seeing as you have asked me what are the 39 Steps... jump to 4:25 of this clip.

WARNING: Contains spoilers for the 1939 and 1959 adaptations of The Thirty Nine Steps (but not the original novel or 1978, 2008 adaptations)

razorblunt · 21-06-2019 1:40pm

Can't watch that, I've never seen the movie. I'll have to watch the whole thing.

Esho · 21-06-2019 1:44pm

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

It would be a pretty perfect place to operate....many people seem to assume that it couldn't happen here.

I think so - look at the number of missing people, especially in recent months.

odyssey06 · 21-06-2019 1:49pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Can't watch that, I've never seen the movie. I'll have to watch the whole thing.

You're in for a treat. I wish I could delete my memory of it so I could watch it again fresh.

Gimme A Pound · 13-07-2019 10:22pm

Don Kemp:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Don_Kemp

Most of it seems pretty non mysterious. It really looks like the guy had a meltdown (reading other information about it) but the weird phone calls...

Your favourite unsolved mystery?

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