Nine tenants evicted from north Dublin property by men in masks and dark clothing

its always interesting to wait and see how this type of news pans out. the moral outrage is the obvious start and then as true facts emerge then maybe the outragers will calm themselves until the next time.

how anyone thinks that somewhere rented to 1 that is then occupied by several is an acceptable situation is incomprehensible to me.

maybe going in and smashing things, if this did occur, is unnecessary, but turfing everyone out is fine by me if the correct rules arent being followed.

its not a case of one law for one and let others do what they like.

seamus wrote: »

I would certainly be casting a skeptical eye on that landlord. If the tenants believed that he was the landlord and were paying him rent even though he knew the property had been sold on - or was in dispute - then that says quite a bit about him.

The Irish Times pops up a few articles about property disputes involving a "Gerry Ward" where he apparently just refuses to accept repossession of his properties.

Chances are there were many, many eviction notices and warning served, but Mr. Ward chose not to alert his tenants.

No excuse really for hiring a crew to smash up the place, but the new owner was likely unaware that the residents didn't know about the dispute and instead from his perspective they were effectively squatters that were ignoring every request to vacate.

Edit: On further research, it would appear that Mr. Ward is one of these "Freeman of the Land" nutjobs, so it looks to me like he was renting the property to these poor people despite not even owning it.

Be careful here, there's more than one Gerry Ward.

The one is previous articles is a psychothe-rapist, address in Leoepardstown

Dempo1 wrote: »

Are you seriously suggesting any landlord instructions his/her agents to break internal doors, toilets and put holes in partition walls, if this did occur, the landlord is as equally thuggish as the individuals engaged in this appalling display of brutality.

Im not suggesting , I’m saying that unless the owner reports that a crime was committed then there was no criminal destruction

Bowie wrote: »

Destroying the place is a terror tactic. If it's a legal eviction there was no need and I'd be pissed if I owned it.
If the attempted eviction was someone trying their luck, smashing up the place would be a good incentive for the occupants not to return.

But if there was going tobe a complete refurb, the owner wouldnt mind, if it was a legal eviction.

Bikerman2019 wrote: »

Disagree. Could also be a tactic to discourage them to (illegally?) re-enter the house. From reports, this is exactly what they have done.

doubtful given it seems to generally fail going on other evictions where people have re-entered the property dispite it being smashed up.
more likely to be an intimidation/terror tactic by the rent a thug.

Does anyone know how the last 'very public eviction' ended up where it was claimed that loyalist paramilitaries in vans came down to evict a hardworking family around the time leading up to the last election. Was it established whether the eviction was legal or not and were the tenants allowed to return? Its rare that the people who immediately post and tweet about these things ever follow up.

end of the road wrote: »

doubtful given it seems to generally fail going on other evictions where people have re-entered the property dispite it being smashed up.
more likely to be an intimidation/terror tactic by the rent a thug.

There is no evidence of the bailiffs doing any damage to the property .
It's most likely the activists doing to gain maximum publicity I see the Flynn chap is all over this the champion of oul Margaret cash

Alana Obnoxious Clothespin wrote: »

A Councillor who’s from the homeless charity who put the people up for a night was on Drivetime claiming it’s illegal.

He would say mass if he could

SchrodingersCat wrote: »

Lads, look, I posted two images from the video of the eviction (see it here https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-eviction-5175006-Aug2020/) that showed that two of the buff ninjas had sewn their tricolours into their shirts that morning the wrong way around. I amd a joke that the lads must have been hired from the Ivory Coast instead of Loyalists from Nortern Ireland like the last infamous eviction.




I got pulled up on this joke and told that the video was doctored by mirroring it. So I posted up another screenshot from the same video that showed a poster on a bus and another flag that was the correct way around to show that it was not mirrored.






No, I am not blind. Yes, I understand that the flag is the correct way around in second image. That was the point.



I have no issue with the lads being from the Ivory Coast. But I dont think that is likely. Why are ye so quick to assume that the video is wrong without even having looked at it?

Just after watching the video, it a appears that one of the guys does have the Irish flag on wrongly, but it is only one of the guys, (ie it is the same person, that you cited twice in your stills) probably a misprinted security T-shirt uniform. Everyone else is wear what appear to be security uniforms with the flag the correct way, and using masks as we have being asked to do, when entering a crowded indoor place. So the headline that the Irish Times used is a little bit misleading.

Their is though two things that peeked my interest in the video, well three actually.
Firstly the guy standing behind the female Garda, states that I have given you due warning, I posted it up on facebook. (I'm not quoting it directly but given the jest of what I heard).
He says "I" so is he the landlord or the person who responsible for this eviction, he does appear to be a someone that may have some answers (ie directly to what is happening with the eviction)
He also mentions "facebook" is social media actually considered an exceptionable and reliable way to inform someone of a illegal document. (I know if it was me, I probably wouldn't see it for about 2 weeks, although I am on facebook, I don't log in that much)

Lastly at the end of the video, the man keeps pushing this document towards the Garda, from his POV (point of view) and just before the video ends, he says that this is all he has received (I'm paraphrasing here) indicating the document) is this a document that he just received or has he had it for a couple of days?

Anyway, I'm with a lot of other posters, I think there is a communication breakdown somewhere, Tenets - Carer Tenet of property - Old Landlord - New Landlord - Bank, and probably someone was up to no good and keeping the cash, but again that is just my opinion, and I think it may all come out in the next couple of days. I do think that it is quite bad and sensationalized reporting though by the Irish Times. Only time will tell.

I'm still very curious of the person who stated "I" in my first point of the video, if I was working for a company or in conjunction with other people I would have state "We"

Sorry the video is here for people to make up their own minds https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-eviction-5175006-Aug2020/