The way forward for LC2021

Leftwaffe wrote: »

I've attached it here, hope it works

Where did you get that? I haven’t had one of those forms.

DubLad69 wrote: »

The school pay you for the oral Aide. Don't expect to be paid anytime soon though, as the schools have not been told to pay you yet.

Thanks, but are you sure about this? A document relating to pay from financial services support unit was released to schools last week. This outlined the rates of pay for interviewers and aides.

DubLad69 wrote: »

The school pay you for the oral Aide. Don't expect to be paid anytime soon though, as the schools have not been told to pay you yet.

Sorry but just one question on this, so interviewers should be paid by now? Spoke with management a few days ago and they didn’t know anything about payment for Oral Aide or Interviewers.

Why isn’t the aide being paid yet? I know you may not know that but worth a shot.

Anyone know what time the LCVP exam is at next Saturday? Can’t find info anywhere, maybe I’m missing a document.

km79 wrote: »

10-12 Saturday week
That’s sat 8th May

Thanks for this. Is there any documentation available for this? Can’t seem to find much info, and I have about 8 different documents.

Leftwaffe wrote: »

Thanks for this. Is there any documentation available for this? Can’t seem to find much info, and I have about 8 different documents.

Only what is on sec website:
"All examinations for 2021 must be arranged in accordance with public health requirements. To ensure that the final examinations for LCVP and Computer Science, both of which are held in May, can be fully compliant with public health guidance the dates for these examinations are confirmed as follows;

LCVP Links modules on the morning of Saturday 8 May - 10 am – 12:30 pm
LC Computer Science on the morning of Saturday 22 May - 9:30 am – 12:30 pm"

TheValeyard wrote: »

Just on the Superintendents. Rumours are they are very short this year. Could uld be another shout out to try get more people to sign up.

I see this notice on the recruitment page:



Applications are now being invited for the position of superintendent at the 2021 examinations for the following counties: Dublin, Kildare, Meath, Louth, Wicklow, Waterford, Cork and Limerick.

No one has been appointed yet to the best of my knowledge, so it would probably help if people who did apply knew if they got it or not. Also, in my experience, one of the most frustrating parts of applying for superintending over the years (I'm 20 years teaching and have never got it) was getting the 'you're on the reserve list' letter and then the next day seeing them re-advertise for more examiners because they won't pay the mileage to examiners who want to do the work to go to Dublin.

It's usually just Dublin that has a shortage but clearly it's a much bigger problem this year.

LCVP exam guidance to be sent to schools in the coming week. Apparently you can hire a superintendent from within the school staff for it but not for the non-proficiency test later that day.

Did anyone receive anything about the LCVP exam yet?

History Queen wrote: »

Has anyone heard back about correcting? I applied this year after a break of 4 years but I didn't hear back. Can I assume at this stage that I won't? And yes I know I can contact the SEC directly to enquire, I just can't remember when you usually get confirmation.

Haven’t heard back myself yet, I’ve been marking for 20 years so presume I’ll be doing it again this year.

I’d imagine there’s a few factors at play. Less examiners needed in each subject in general. Some might opt out having had last year off. Anyone who usually marks JC has no marking for last two years so might apply for LC if they resale want it. Hard to know.

Superintendents haven’t been applied either to the best of my knowledge.

History Queen wrote: »

Has anyone heard back about correcting? I applied this year after a break of 4 years but I didn't hear back. Can I assume at this stage that I won't? And yes I know I can contact the SEC directly to enquire, I just can't remember when you usually get confirmation.

I haven’t heard back this year either, and I did mark in 2019. Id say they are still wary about numbers and don’t want to over appoint examiners.

rainbowtrout wrote: »

I have previous assessments and tests for my students as well. I mark fairly and I don't overinflate grades.


We are asked in the guidelines to mark how we feel they would do if they sat the 2021 LC, so I've kept my assessments as close to that as possible. I'm not sure I can do much more.

Natural inflation at corrector stage for LC 2021 due to increased options this year. Dept can sort themselves when applying the curve.

Teach30 wrote: »

I have never marked LC and do my best to grade accurately however I will say that despite following a pre- paper marking scheme for one assessment I was still unsure if students were giving enough information for answers as the scheme only give bullet points and key words they should use. I definitely found myself giving students marks despite being unsure if they would get them, I couldn’t be listening to them complain.
I’m not the only one doing this!

Heard also of colleagues being asked to give a grade for work done on a project submitted in 5th year and they have no record of what students would have got as they are sent off to be corrected, so giving them all top marks for it. Madness.

You have a very low threshold for educational attainment.

Teach30 wrote: »

I have never marked LC and do my best to grade accurately however I will say that despite following a pre- paper marking scheme for one assessment I was still unsure if students were giving enough information for answers as the scheme only give bullet points and key words they should use. I definitely found myself giving students marks despite being unsure if they would get them, I couldn’t be listening to them complain.
I’m not the only one doing this!

Heard also of colleagues being asked to give a grade for work done on a project submitted in 5th year and they have no record of what students would have got as they are sent off to be corrected, so giving them all top marks for it. Madness.

Could you look for some advice from other teachers who have marked your subject before? Or contact your subject association?

Teach30 wrote: »

I have never marked LC and do my best to grade accurately however I will say that despite following a pre- paper marking scheme for one assessment I was still unsure if students were giving enough information for answers as the scheme only give bullet points and key words they should use. I definitely found myself giving students marks despite being unsure if they would get them, I couldn’t be listening to them complain.
I’m not the only one doing this!

Heard also of colleagues being asked to give a grade for work done on a project submitted in 5th year and they have no record of what students would have got as they are sent off to be corrected, so giving them all top marks for it. Madness.

I'm primary but I think you need to be more professional in your approach. Give them the grade that they deserve, not one to give you an easy live and appease students and parents.

Is it a very niche subject you are teaching? Normally you'd get a few people in your subject association with experience correcting. I'd also recommend correcting one year for your own sake, it will give you a much better grounding.

I've found this year much more difficult than last year. Students performance has varied more than usual so a concrete grade is harder to stand over. I'd have been very confident last year that my grades would have been pretty close to accurate. This year I don't feel the same, and I have good records and 5 years correcting experience so don't feel too deflated. I think there will be a bit or erring on the higher side, if only because its tougher to narrow the grade. Last year I'd have been thinking about where in a band of 76-78% a kid was based on work,exams etc. This year I've some where I'm unsure where they lie on 75-85 and I'm trawling through their exams with the new structure in mind. Naturally I will err upwards, as many teachers will. The inconsistency of there last two years makes it a very different proposition