The way forward for LC2021

derb12 · 12-04-2021 08:59PM

Random sample wrote: »

They could be students without a teacher. Maybe students who are repeated higher level Irish for primary teaching. If they are in our classes we are required to provide them with an accredited grade even if they don’t apply for it, in case of illness or isolation when the exam is on.

Yeh, that’s what I thought. But 2% would be 1200 or so students? That seems high.

am_zarathustra · 12-04-2021 09:19PM

Theres alwayways a few repeating just to get a particular grade in a subject, like someone with the points for primary but doesn't have the H4/5 in irish mentioned above or whatever that's a requirement. Science and maths requirents for some courses too, even if your returning as a mature student. Not sure how many a year, but these, repeats working from home, kids who haven't attended school regularly and for whom accredited grades would not be possible (they know themselves there's nothing to work off) and then older people returning to education to just get the LC because life stopped it first time. It does seem high but I know people who've done the irish exam alone twice so maybe it's not.

Treppen · 13-04-2021 07:14AM

derb12 wrote: »

Yeh, that’s what I thought. But 2% would be 1200 or so students? That seems high.

Students exempt from Irish might have ticked the no box for accredited grade.

Leftwaffe · 16-04-2021 07:29PM

I think I may have asked this already but is there a form out to be paid for the LC oral aide job or are the school reimbursing us? I see there is one for the interviewers on the SEC website.

gaiscioch · 17-04-2021 10:19PM

Any idea when we will have confirmation for the exam layout for LC subjects in 2022?

Many teachers give regular exams in 5th year and if the exam structure is going to change next year teachers should be told about it so they can better prepare their students. For instance, in history the normal 4 questions in 170 minutes was replaced this year with 3 questions in the same time. This essentially meant that the H1 students in 2021 who want to stand out have to prepare 6-7 page essays instead of 4-5 page essays as nobody knows how the SEC is going to separate the wheat from the chaff when awarding H1s. The changes have meant more work, not less, for all those students who had prepared well by the existing criteria.

Likewise, if the SEC is going to change the 2022 exam to take into account of this year's Lockdown, we should be told asap so that we can allow our students to change their exam technique by, for instance, preparing much longer LC essays and taking longer to write them.

rainbowtrout · 17-04-2021 10:46PM

gaiscioch wrote: »

Any idea when we will have confirmation for the exam layout for LC subjects in 2022?

Many teachers give regular exams in 5th year and if the exam structure is going to change next year teachers should be told about it so they can better prepare their students. For instance, in history the normal 4 questions in 170 minutes was replaced this year with 3 questions in the same time. This essentially meant that the H1 students in 2021 who want to stand out have to prepare 6-7 page essays instead of 4-5 page essays as nobody knows how the SEC is going to separate the wheat from the chaff when awarding H1s. The changes have meant more work, not less, for all those students who had prepared well by the existing criteria.

Likewise, if the SEC is going to change the 2022 exam to take into account of this year's Lockdown, we should be told asap so that we can allow our students to change their exam technique by, for instance, preparing much longer LC essays and taking longer to write them.

Personally I can’t see this information coming out until at least September when the SEC see how the changes to 2021 pan out. ie were this years changes too extreme and do they need to tighten up the paper or did it work out ok in the end curve wise?

Random sample · 18-04-2021 08:57AM

I’m working on the basis that the changes made in august for the 2021 class will be made again for the class of 22. I don’t think they will get the same allowances as the March announcement.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 18-04-2021 09:03AM

Random sample wrote: »

I’m working on the basis that the changes made in august for the 2021 class will be made again for the class of 22. I don’t think they will get the same allowances as the March announcement.

Wud assume the same. The LC class of 2022 wud need further school closure next year for more adjustments to be made.

ascophyllum · 18-04-2021 06:34PM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

I think I may have asked this already but is there a form out to be paid for the LC oral aide job or are the school reimbursing us? I see there is one for the interviewers on the SEC website.

Hi any link to that oral interviewer form? I've been looking for it for a while on the SEC website to no avail!

Random sample · 18-04-2021 07:52PM

ascophyllum wrote: »

Hi any link to that oral interviewer form? I've been looking for it for a while on the SEC website to no avail!

It’s appendix 4 here https://www.examinations.ie/misc-doc/BI-SC-97154900.pdf I didn’t need to hand anything else in to my school.

Leftwaffe · 18-04-2021 09:48PM

ascophyllum wrote: »

Hi any link to that oral interviewer form? I've been looking for it for a while on the SEC website to no avail!

I've attached it here, hope it works

Random sample · 18-04-2021 10:59PM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

I've attached it here, hope it works

Where did you get that? I haven’t had one of those forms.

Leftwaffe · 19-04-2021 04:56PM

Random sample wrote: »

Where did you get that? I haven’t had one of those forms.

SEC website, can’t remember which section, wasn’t in the right one anyway. Stumbled across it.

ascophyllum · 19-04-2021 07:51PM

Random sample wrote: »

It’s appendix 4 here https://www.examinations.ie/misc-doc/BI-SC-97154900.pdf I didn’t need to hand anything else in to my school.

Thanks, I filled that one in alright but it went in the envelope to Athlone I think

Leftwaffe · 21-04-2021 10:02PM

Im still none the wiser as to who is paying the Oral Aide for the LC orals? Is it the SEC or do the school reimburse me?

DubLad69 · 23-04-2021 09:02AM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

Im still none the wiser as to who is paying the Oral Aide for the LC orals? Is it the SEC or do the school reimburse me?

The school pay you for the oral Aide. Don't expect to be paid anytime soon though, as the schools have not been told to pay you yet.

DubLad69 · 23-04-2021 09:03AM

With the LCVP exam coming in two weeks time, has anyone received any information regarding when we need to set up? Centre numbers etc? Do we need to get out own superintendents?

Leftwaffe · 23-04-2021 09:37AM

DubLad69 wrote: »

The school pay you for the oral Aide. Don't expect to be paid anytime soon though, as the schools have not been told to pay you yet.

Thanks, but are you sure about this? A document relating to pay from financial services support unit was released to schools last week. This outlined the rates of pay for interviewers and aides.

DubLad69 · 23-04-2021 09:43AM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

Thanks, but are you sure about this? A document relating to pay from financial services support unit was released to schools last week. This outlined the rates of pay for interviewers and aides.

Yes I am. I have already paid my interviewers. The school pays anyone who is appointed by the school, then they claim back the costs from the SEC.

Bobtheman · 23-04-2021 11:16AM

DubLad69 wrote: »

With the LCVP exam coming in two weeks time, has anyone received any information regarding when we need to set up? Centre numbers etc? Do we need to get out own superintendents?

Whoever is your school exam Secretary should organise all of that

Leftwaffe · 27-04-2021 03:36PM

Anyone received any documentation about the LCVP exam on May 8th? We’ve received nothing, I only know that it’s on Saturday May 8th. I haven’t come across a time for it.

Leftwaffe · 27-04-2021 05:37PM

DubLad69 wrote: »

The school pay you for the oral Aide. Don't expect to be paid anytime soon though, as the schools have not been told to pay you yet.

Sorry but just one question on this, so interviewers should be paid by now? Spoke with management a few days ago and they didn’t know anything about payment for Oral Aide or Interviewers.

Why isn’t the aide being paid yet? I know you may not know that but worth a shot.

Random sample · 27-04-2021 06:36PM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

Sorry but just one question on this, so interviewers should be paid by now? Spoke with management a few days ago and they didn’t know anything about payment for Oral Aide or Interviewers.

Why isn’t the aide being paid yet? I know you may not know that but worth a shot.

Interviewers in our place to be paid at the end of the month. I don’t know the plan for the aide.

DubLad69 · 27-04-2021 11:42PM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

Sorry but just one question on this, so interviewers should be paid by now? Spoke with management a few days ago and they didn’t know anything about payment for Oral Aide or Interviewers.

Why isn’t the aide being paid yet? I know you may not know that but worth a shot.

Different schools will have different payment schedules. Some only make payments monthly.

I also believe that the form for payment was just burried on the SEC website and never sent to principals.

Wombatman · 28-04-2021 06:20PM

Irrespective of the choices made by individual candidates, Accredited Grades will be provided to any candidate unable to attend for any of their examinations for Covid related reasons; due to other medical emergencies; or in the event of a bereavement.

What does this really mean? If a students opts for exam and AG now via portal, and chooses not to sit the exam later, will they still get their AG?

Leftwaffe · 29-04-2021 01:04PM

Anyone know what time the LCVP exam is at next Saturday? Can’t find info anywhere, maybe I’m missing a document.

km79 · 29-04-2021 01:12PM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

Anyone know what time the LCVP exam is at next Saturday? Can’t find info anywhere, maybe I’m missing a document.

10-1230 Saturday week
That’s sat 8th May

Leftwaffe · 29-04-2021 03:53PM

km79 wrote: »

10-12 Saturday week
That’s sat 8th May

Thanks for this. Is there any documentation available for this? Can’t seem to find much info, and I have about 8 different documents.

Leftwaffe · 30-04-2021 10:37AM

Are superintendents SEC appointed for the LCVP exam or school appointed does anyone know?

km79 · 30-04-2021 11:10AM

Leftwaffe wrote: »

Thanks for this. Is there any documentation available for this? Can’t seem to find much info, and I have about 8 different documents.

Only what is on sec website:
"All examinations for 2021 must be arranged in accordance with public health requirements. To ensure that the final examinations for LCVP and Computer Science, both of which are held in May, can be fully compliant with public health guidance the dates for these examinations are confirmed as follows;

LCVP Links modules on the morning of Saturday 8 May - 10 am – 12:30 pm
LC Computer Science on the morning of Saturday 22 May - 9:30 am – 12:30 pm"

The way forward for LC2021

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