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Super Rugby 2021

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Goal kicking was brutal and I thought Ben O'Keeffe was particularly pedantic today. Chiefs were consistently the better team though, Highlanders tries were almost against the run of play. I had Highlanders to win by 3, right margin, wrong team.


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    Agree about the quality, not a classic but the tightness kept it interesting.


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    Reds beat the Brumbies, go top of the AU table. Brad Thorn is doing a decent job, I reckon this Reds side could beat most NZ sides on their day. Like a glass coffin though "remains to be seen".


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,837 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    hahashake wrote: »
    Reds beat the Brumbies, go top of the AU table. Brad Thorn is doing a decent job, I reckon this Reds side could beat most NZ sides on their day. Like a glass coffin though "remains to be seen".

    cracker of a game... there are some very very good young players in that reds team

    the next time the aussies play a NH team most up here wont recognise any of the names !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Well that first half was worth the stupidly early alarm!! Crusaders losing Goodhue and Moody within 25 minutes was a big hit. Hurricanes tries from their own restarts were spectacular. Think Laumape was lucky not to get red. Two successful Captain's referrals highlighting Paul Williams' failings. I don't rate him as a ref.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    Another golden point finish! Didn't set the alarm so only caught the second half, some brutal defence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Second half not in the same league as the first. Felt like they were playing Golden Point for the last 15. Almost a relief that the score came so early in the golden point period. Don't think anyone was expecting that Havili would take the drop goal with Mo'unga at the bottom of the ruck. Crusaders not looking as invincible as they did at the start of the competition.


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    Will have to watch the replay even I though I am not a fan of watching games when I know the result.

    A good thing for the comp that there seems to be more parity. Right now it seems like any team can beat any other team, Chiefs no longer serial losers and Crusaders not looking ahead of the pack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,501 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Yeah baby yeah.

    Moana Pasifika and Fijian Drua confirmed. With help from World Rugby who are giving one milllllllion dollars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Yeah baby yeah.

    Moana Pasifika and Fijian Drua confirmed. With help from World Rugby who are giving one milllllllion dollars.

    Good news hopefully it strengthens the PI nation's and they actually play there super rugby game's there.


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  • Subscribers Posts: 41,837 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Good news hopefully it strengthens the PI nation's and they actually play there super rugby game's there.

    Fiji are hoping to host at ;least 6 homes games per season in Suva

    personally i hope, if anything at all, that this marks a complete schism between Fijian Rugby and Fijian politics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    Moana Pasifika will be a success if they are playing in and recruiting from the islands. Otherwise it is in danger of being the Southern Kings of NZ.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,501 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    hahashake wrote: »
    Moana Pasifika will be a success if they are playing in and recruiting from the islands. Otherwise it is in danger of being the Southern Kings of NZ.

    The will be playing in the island otherwise known as the North Island, in South Auckland to be precise.

    I do hope they have Islanders and not Kiwis with Pacific heritage, but we see.


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    The will be playing in the island otherwise known as the North Island, in South Auckland to be precise.

    I do hope they have Islanders and not Kiwis with Pacific heritage, but we see.

    It will likely be at least half, roughly 50% of their player base is NZ born, and then another x% living in NZ.

    Point being if you have ambitions for the ABs, would you not prefer to play for the Blues? So it could be the castoffs. Hope not, hope they can recruit a few overseas based PI players back at least.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,036 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    hahashake wrote: »
    It will likely be at least half, roughly 50% of their player base is NZ born, and then another x% living in NZ.

    Point being if you have ambitions for the ABs, would you not prefer to play for the Blues? So it could be the castoffs. Hope not, hope they can recruit a few overseas based PI players back at least.

    Going by the Blues history (until the last 2 years) those castoffs would probably beat them.

    It might attract a few guys who played for NZ, Aus, France or England who then went overseas and would like to reconnect with their PI heritage. I assume they'd play one game a year in Samoa and Tonga. Not sure what the infrastructure in either country is like for hosting matches.

    Also, I think this is great news. Just keep the politicians out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,722 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    hahashake wrote: »
    It will likely be at least half, roughly 50% of their player base is NZ born, and then another x% living in NZ.

    Point being if you have ambitions for the ABs, would you not prefer to play for the Blues? So it could be the castoffs. Hope not, hope they can recruit a few overseas based PI players back at least.

    Yeah you would hope over the next few years as contracts etc expire that it'd be a massive draw to bring lads playing in France or England back to the PIs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    That would be the major downside of basing yourself in Apia (for example). The known corruption of their Union. If not for that, I think there would be a desire to try to build better infrastructure and play there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    D Mac starting at 10 on Saturday, now that's going to be interesting!! Super rugby Aotearoa games at the relatively civilised times of 8.05am this Friday and Saturday. Will be watching the second half of tomorrow's game at my desk though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    TJP wants to go to the Sydney Roosters in the NRL. Might be contraction negotiation but his age profile and recent form isn't going to warrant a big contract regardless. Then again, with Fakatava injured it might change the equation a bit.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,837 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Terrible start for the Highlanders

    Imagine getting your pass intercepted OVER your own try line


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭fitz


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Terrible start for the Highlanders

    Imagine getting your pass intercepted OVER your own try line

    Brutal from Smith... Not the place for a flat pass.
    They looked good for their try to go back ahead though.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭fitz


    Blues discipline is absolutely shocking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    It was clearly Caleb Clarke's hair that was holding him back. He's on fire today, turning up everywhere. Blues were at sea when Robinson went off but finding form again. Cracking game.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭The Inbetween is mine


    Contact with the head..... accidental... the disparities between the application of the rules in the hemispheres is widening I think


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭fitz


    Contact with the head..... accidental... the disparities between the application of the rules in the hemispheres is widening I think

    Something I've noticed watching Super Rugby the last few weeks, they seem to penalize high tackles less. Stone cold Red card just there though and they got it 100% right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    A key stat is how often you score points when in the 22, and the Blues are so bad at converting their chances.

    Edit: Himeno has a great smile permanently plastered on his face.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,837 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Hell yeah baby!!!


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭fitz


    Cracking game. A deserved win for the Highlanders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,501 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    I’m going to get in early and say that highlanders replacement LH de groot is a future star. Looks really promising for a 22 year old.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 8,140 ✭✭✭fitz


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    I’m going to get in early and say that highlanders replacement LH de groot is a future star. Looks really promising for a 22 year old.

    He certainly put in a great cameo against the Blues.


  • Registered Users Posts: 98 ✭✭briandebum


    Do you reckon the Blues are well coached?

    I mean last year was a massive improvement over previous years, so McDonald deserves credit for that. However I feel as though they were out coached by the Highlanders, because on paper they should be the better team.

    Maybe Tony Brown is just that good of coach to make up the difference in talent?

    One interesting thing is that most of the Blues outstanding players are strike runners. Which is no bad thing, however without Barrett they lack the game management or creativity to be put into space. This would explain why a team which looks so good on paper has relatively underperformed this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    briandebum wrote: »
    One interesting thing is that most of the Blues outstanding players are strike runners. Which is no bad thing, however without Barrett they lack the game management or creativity to be put into space. This would explain why a team which looks so good on paper has relatively underperformed this year.

    Strike runners but no support. In the second half alone Caleb Clarke had two fantastic breaks but was caught 5m from the line with nobody in support. Contrast that to Crusaders right now, support runners everywhere.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,837 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Our Mike is a very powerful guy :D


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,837 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    I still find it mad in some super rugby games that the tanoy will be blasting out music while the games going on.

    Mounga taking a pen kick to the corner while hotel california rings out loud


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,837 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Cracking game!!!!

    Chiefs up 23 - 22


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Cracking game!!!!

    Chiefs up 23 - 22

    Second half considerably better than the first. Feels like it's been going on for hours and hours though.


  • Subscribers Posts: 41,837 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Some of the scrum half passing by both the starters and the reserves had been shocking


  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    Will Gatland be wanted back?

    Chiefs 7 & 8 will be in the ABs. Crusaders are a lesser team without Whitelock, having leaders on the field is key. Look at the Blues after Robinson went down injured. Headless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,722 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    hahashake wrote: »
    Will Gatland be wanted back?

    Chiefs 7 & 8 will be in the ABs. Crusaders are a lesser team without Whitelock, having leaders on the field is key. Look at the Blues after Robinson went down injured. Headless.

    They need to look at switching him to a DOR style role like he has with the Lions and like he had with Wales, and keeping McMillan as the head coach.

    To go from losing 10 in a row under Gats and now winning 4 in a row is ridiculous


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    hahashake wrote: »
    Will Gatland be wanted back?

    Chiefs 7 & 8 will be in the ABs. Crusaders are a lesser team without Whitelock, having leaders on the field is key. Look at the Blues after Robinson went down injured. Headless.

    Big fan of Jacobson, missed the world cup only due to concussions I believe. I'm not sure which position he'll play though, think he's played across the backrow.

    Boshier's been solid and effective for a while now, he's just always had a couple of tough players to beat out - Cane (injured), Savea (injured) and Jacobson if the AB coaches see him as a seven.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭hahashake


    Papalii might be the next cab off the rank at 7, we will see though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Unexpectedly tight game this morning. McKenzie has balls of steel!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭PMC83


    Loving the Western Force fightback here. Story with handsome Rob? Thought he was named


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    Can't find any highlights of Force vs Reds which with the scoreline looks like a thriller. Anyone any links?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭Locke_Lamora


    Can't find any highlights of Force vs Reds which with the scoreline looks like a thriller. Anyone any links?

    Messaged you a link for the full game there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭PMC83


    Messaged you a link for the full game there.


    any chance I could get a that link please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,056 ✭✭✭Digifriendly


    Messaged you a link for the full game there.

    Many thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Spotted this on Facebook


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,141 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    Well the red team owned the blue team again :D Will Jordan on fire. Blues just couldn't finish. Would love to see the turnover stats for the game, even in the first 5 minutes it felt like we'd seen 7 or 8.

    But for now, sleep!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,501 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    One thing that the SH has over the NH at the moment is the application of the rules

    1) If you're not clearly onside you're offside.
    2) If you are in front of the kicker you must stop and wait to be put onside
    3) At the tackle, if you are clearly on the ball and lift, you win the penalty, even if it all happens quickly. If you go past the ball or rest on your hands, you give away a penalty.

    IMHO, it makes for much better rugby.


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