Doonbeg Begorragh!

odyssey06 · 05-06-2019 10:52pm

_blaaz wrote: »

Noone is argueing againest these points

But its ridcolus me paying tax and it to be spend so this lad can have a holiday and it seems not bother with an offial visit??

Whats even the point of it like,??

Can you gaurntee it to be a once off....or will we have to find money into the future for visits when he retires??

How do you think the Yankees feel about having to have us over every Paddys Day?
This is the quid pro quo for all those White House visits, congressional dinners and trade missions.

Between the money he has put into Doonbeg, and the publicity this visit has generated for american tourists, I think the Trump has the ten million indirectly covered.

Fann Linn · 05-06-2019 10:53pm

Did Noonan meet Trump at Shannon a few years back surrounded by Oirish Dancers etc when the Don was buying Doonbeg?

odyssey06 · 05-06-2019 10:54pm

InTheShadows wrote: »

Usual mob of layabouts. Most of us are too busy working.

Are we still talking about the protestors or have we moved onto the Trump juniors?

I'll get my coat. I hear theres a free bar in Doonbeg.

dxhound2005 · 05-06-2019 10:56pm

tupenny wrote: »

I actually like the misogynist racist. Trying to follow through with promises at least. More true to his word than most

Trying but failing, or in some cases not even trying. Do you think that wall will ever be built? And as for draining the swamp, that's a joke.

_blaaz · 05-06-2019 10:56pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

How do you think the Yankees feel about having to have us over every Paddys Day?
This is the quid pro quo for all those White House visits, congressional dinners and trade missions.

Between the money he has put into Doonbeg, and the publicity this visit has generated for american tourists, I think the Trump has the ten million indirectly covered.

To best of my knowlege the paddys day visit is offial...your comparing apples and oranges?

Trump.is a multi billionaire businesman,who prob stands to make millions off his doonbeg investment (and more power to him for that)....but why are my taxes being used to cover security costs for an unoffial trip/holiday for him??

Danzy · 05-06-2019 10:58pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

if its an unofficial visit why did leo meet him?.

Most powerful man in the world.

Hedgelayer · 05-06-2019 10:58pm

tupenny wrote: »

Also the protesters would annoy him more by giving him zero attention. He clearly thrives on it

Well there's a lot of talk about the only way to starve who you think is narcissistic is to ignore them.

They feed off of negative and positive energy, it's actually like retuning an engine for more power and the more power and fuel you feed the engine the further and faster it goes.
Keep on maintaining it and it'll last a long time...

But the protesters know nothing about npd or people in power.....

They don't care

Unless they're ignored then they deflate quite rapidly.....

tupenny · 05-06-2019 11:01pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Trying but failing, or in some cases not even trying. Do you think that wall will ever be built? And as for draining the swamp, that's a joke.

Sure God loves a tryer

odyssey06 · 05-06-2019 11:03pm

_blaaz wrote: »

To best of my knowlege the paddys day visit is offial...your comparing apples and oranges?
Trump.is a multi billionaire businesman,who prob stands to make millions off his doonbeg investment (and more power to him for that)....but why are my taxes being used to cover security costs for an unoffial trip/holiday for him??

Every year they host us officially and you are that concerned about the status of a return visit?

Is Leo a buddy of his? A member of Doombeg golf club?
You dont meet Leo if you are only here on holiday. That visit did not happen by chance
It may not be a full blown state level visit but it is official.

Fann Linn · 05-06-2019 11:05pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

if its an unofficial visit why did leo meet him?

If the lads are shooting each other in dublin arent going to be caught with all the corporation tax revenue we have 10million wont make a damn bit of difference.

Did Leo not invite him?

_blaaz · 05-06-2019 11:06pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Every year they host us officially and you are that concerned about the status of a return visit?

Is Leo a buddy of his? A member of Doombeg golf club?
You dont meet Leo if you are only here on holiday. That visit did not happen by chance
It may not be a full blown state level visit but it is official.

Yes im concerned about status of the trip??

I dont really care about varadkar meeting him or not....just think i pay a fcukton of tax every year and dont want it wasted on unoffial visits/holidays for billionaires?

This is hardly unreasonable to enquire wheter he will reimburse the state the cost or not??

_blaaz · 05-06-2019 11:08pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

Did Leo not invite him?

Im trying to find this out

But noone seems to know,and if it is offial,how is it.....hes not met the president?

odyssey06 · 05-06-2019 11:09pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

Did Leo not invite him?

Yes and Enda too.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.joe.ie/amp/politics/leo-varadkar-donald-trump-ireland-619417

Atlantic Dawn · 05-06-2019 11:09pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

Did Leo not invite him?

I think it was Inda who first invited him.

_blaaz · 05-06-2019 11:10pm

odyssey06 wrote: »

Yes and Enda too.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.joe.ie/amp/politics/leo-varadkar-donald-trump-ireland-619417

Was it ever formslly extended?

Atlantic Dawn · 05-06-2019 11:10pm

I find it funny that some politicians call him sexist and a misogynist, these same people had no problem welcoming a president who was getting blowies from his intern.

Fann Linn · 05-06-2019 11:10pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I think it was Inda who first invited him.

You're right. Two cheeks of the same arseðŸ˜႒

Beechwoodspark · 05-06-2019 11:12pm

“Does doonbeg love trump?”

“YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!”

Video doing the rounds

05-06-2019 11:18pm

_blaaz wrote: »

Im trying to find this out

But noone seems to know,and if it is offial,how is it.....hes not met the president?

Varadkar met the US President in Shannon Airport today. It's an official visit, but not a State visit, so no need to meet our own President.

Fr_Dougal · 05-06-2019 11:21pm

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Doonbeg had closed down before Trump bought it, he pumped millions into it.

Fann Linn · 05-06-2019 11:36pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Doonbeg had closed down before Trump bought it, he pumped millions into it.

Noonan equated it to the IDA bringing 300 jobs to Clare in 2014.

Lucy8080 · 05-06-2019 11:39pm

_blaaz wrote: »

Yes im concerned about status of the trip??

I dont really care about varadkar meeting him or not....just think i pay a fcukton of tax every year and dont want it wasted on unoffial visits/holidays for billionaires?

This is hardly unreasonable to enquire wheter he will reimburse the state the cost or not??

There could be a bit of lobbying by Leo for E3 visa's. Only Australians have access to it at the moment.

P.O.T.U.S. visits can be good for tourist dollars and Irish influence in America.
Want the Irish American vote? Did you give the old country that visa/request they asked for?

Hedgelayer · 05-06-2019 11:40pm

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I think a lot of people are forgetting that Doonbeg had closed down before Trump bought it, he pumped millions into it.

If trump did anything good or bad the people who don't like him won't agree with you.

No matter what Trump does they manipulate their agenda.

I don't like the way he's being hard on Iran.
The ordinary Joe soap is getting effected.

But I like other things about him, when the facts are there to show how he's turning around the American economy, that's a good thing.

I like what he did with Doonbeag, he doesn't mind locals having access to the beach, the surfer horse trainer's and locals had awful hassle with the previous owners of the hotel.
There was war with the locals who used the beach for amenity purposes.

Under trump's management they're integrating the locals with the business.

Call a spade a spade.

ChikiChiki · 05-06-2019 11:47pm

Don't like Trump as an individual but it's a necessary evil to be cordial and diplomatic with him for the sake of ties between Ireland and the USA of which he is the democratically elected president.

Some people are so blinded in their hatred of the man that they cannot see the bigger picture. And I would include a lot of supposedly intelligent people in that grouping, political commentators, politicians, businessmen etc.

tonycascarino · 05-06-2019 11:56pm

Another 4 years of Trump hopefully. If he gets under the skin of the loony liberals then he must be doing something right. Long may he reign.

Hedgelayer · 06-06-2019 12:01am

tonycascarino wrote: »

Another 4 years of Trump hopefully. If he gets under the skin of the loony liberals then he must be doing something right. Long may he reign.

That's the funny thing about it,the more the looney left get outraged the more the moderates and right seem to love him.

It's a paradox

TheDiceMan2020 · 06-06-2019 12:06am

Hedgelayer wrote: »

That's the funny thing about it,the more the looney left get outraged the more the moderates and right seem to love him.

It's a paradox

It's not really. Nobody likes the fun police.

mcmoustache · 06-06-2019 12:07am

Hedgelayer wrote: »

But I like other things about him, when the facts are there to show how he's turning around the American economy, that's a good thing.

That's a claim made by Trump but like a lot of things that he says, it tends not to be true. Not having a go but sometimes members of the public take him at his word and repeat his claims as fact. image?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffortunedotcom.files.wordpress.com%2F2019%2F06%2Fcomparison_trump_obama.png&w=700&q=85

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ChikiChiki wrote: »

Don't like Trump as an individual but it's a necessary evil to be cordial and diplomatic with him for the sake of ties between Ireland and the USA of which he is the democratically elected president.

Some people are so blinded in their hatred of the man that they cannot see the bigger picture.

Yeah, regardless of who is president, we sort of have to just suck it up. We do it for all of them and it is important for us to maintain a good relationship, regardless of who holds the office. We're a small country and need more from them than they do from us.

He'll be gone in a day and it's not like his talk of Brexit and the border will be taken seriously by anyone.

And as much as it pains me to say it, I admire his charity. The golf course loses around a million a year and yet he still pays a few hundred staff in the village. If he was a profit-orientated businessman, he might pull out but instead he chooses to keep the village afloat. Credit where it's due.

Berserker · 06-06-2019 12:08am

Shawn Ripe Gray wrote: »

The Messiah has certainly put that place on the map this week.. I've never heard of it before his visit, now the next time I'm down that way if I see a sign for it I'll likely spin by, looks great on telly.

We've booked a room in his hotel for a few nights in July. The village looked amazing on the news. Business will be brisk for the village and the hotel after this visit.

_Whimsical_ · 06-06-2019 12:15am

Very strange little live clip from Doonebeg on Sky tonight.

They had a reporter live, Irish guy, there as the two Trump sons were going into a local pub. Seems they've been visiting pubs tonight buying pints for the locals.

Reporters shouts to one son and he gives a polite answer.

Next thing the blonde son actually walks up behind the reporter trying to get his attention to say a few words, he's actually bombing the shot in the background for over a minute trying to get in just 2 ft from the guy.
Reporter see him and completely ignores him as if he's one of the kids hanging around outside the pub.

whisky_galore · 06-06-2019 12:16am

Lucy8080 wrote: »

There could be a bit of lobbying by Leo for E3 visa's. Only Australians have access to it at the moment.

P.O.T.U.S. visits can be good for tourist dollars and Irish influence in America.
Want the Irish American vote? Did you give the old country that visa/request they asked for?

Quote Drumpf, Brexit will be 'Very, very good' for Ireland, and comparing the border to his wall.
Talking out of his hole.

Irish America is a spent force, once upon a time it meant something, now they're just 'Americans' who gulp down green beer and corned beef and cabbage on St Pattys Day.

_Whimsical_ · 06-06-2019 12:28am

I think this visit has been a massive embarrassment for us.

It was incredibly ungracious by anyones standards. I actually wonder how they found those tiny flower pots to sit either side at the press conference. You'd hardly have been able to rustle anything more pathetic up if you only had a shopping trip to 1985. It certainly won't intice visitors.

Also on the news today at 1 and again at 4 the reporter covering the Clare protests was very actively encouraging people to come and join and bring their children.
She actually said it was going to be family friendly event with music and food and hopefully people will come with families and the gardai were making assurance it would be peaceful and fine for children. By 4 she was virtually begging people to turn up and by 6 she sounds very disappointed and mentioned there were more reporters gathered there than protestors.

It just goes to show how far removed our media and politicians are from sentiment on the ground , which while it might not actively like Trump, feels no need to degrade him, particularly not at the expense of our economy that the USA props up.
We have really cut off our nose to spite on this one... and all to impress Leo's twitter and insta followers.
Sure , who needs rural employment or a chance to properly explain Brexit from our perspective?

TCM · 06-06-2019 12:33am

mcmoustache wrote:

That's a claim made by Trump but like a lot of things that he says, it tends not to be true. Not having a go but sometimes members of the public take him at his word and repeat his claims as fact.

Not having a go but...

Dexter2019 · 06-06-2019 12:35am

Danzy wrote: »

Most powerful man in the world.

Who?, Leo?

Dexter2019 · 06-06-2019 12:37am

tonycascarino wrote: »

Another 4 years of Trump hopefully. If he gets under the skin of the loony liberals then he must be doing something right. Long may he reign.

Would you go way would you ....

Stacksofwacks · 06-06-2019 12:39am

I dont agree with trump on much but he is President of the USA at the end of the day. No military guard of honour, no young girls with flowers to greet them, barely a ripple of applause ,just Leo with a smug face behind a van. A very poor effort

Rubberchikken · 06-06-2019 12:57am

it gives employment. after all those 191s dont pay for themselves.
we're very thankful for american companies here and their investment and jobs. after all those 191s dont pay for themselves.

personally im a big fan of President Trump. hes a man who's not afraid to say what he thinks. too much b s around these days.

Sam Quentin · 06-06-2019 1:03am

Donald Trump is a legend,the best leader the World has ever seen. So great to see him visit our beautiful Country. And great to hear him say he loves Ireland

ILoveYourVibes · 06-06-2019 1:06am

Deleted User wrote: »

The Donald looks after his own flock.

No he doesn't. He treats his staff terribly.

You are right about one thing. Flock is the correct term. They are sheep.

whisky_galore · 06-06-2019 1:07am

Sam Quentin wrote: »

Donald Trump is a legend,the best leader the World has ever seen. So great to see him visit our beautiful Country. And great to hear him say he loves Ireland

I love *insert country that aligns with our interests here*.

Omackeral · 06-06-2019 1:42am

Hedgelayer wrote: »

I seen a clip of the protesters, typical type's of educated idiot's

Always get a good chuckle out of this type of thing.

Junkyard Tom · 06-06-2019 1:56am

_Whimsical_ wrote: »

our economy that the USA props up

The USA props up the Irish economy?

Anteayer · 06-06-2019 2:20am

The resort at Doonbeg was purchased by the Trumps as far as I’m aware.
It would be a successful golf resort one way or another. There are other similar resorts around Ireland all doing solid business.

I find this sycophantic stuff a bit much.

Also Trump doesn’t run the multinationals that have presence here. If anything he’s not being taken all that seriously by big US business leaders. The companies are here because it’s a useful gateway into Europe both from a tax and business culture point of view. It’s not like the US is a command economy where the president tells companies where to invest. They invest here because it suits them.

He’s also the son of a Scots Gaelic native speaker from a small cottage in the western isles that’s about as much like the west of Ireland as you could possibly get. He’s not going to find rural Ireland an unfamiliar place.

Lucy8080 · 06-06-2019 2:29am

whisky_galore wrote: »

Quote Drumpf, Brexit will be 'Very, very good' for Ireland, and comparing the border to his wall.
Talking out of his hole.

Irish America is a spent force, once upon a time it meant something, now they're just 'Americans' who gulp down green beer and corned beef and cabbage on St Pattys Day.

You say Drumpf,I say P.O.T.U.S. -Tomato/tomayto.

P.O.T.U.S. is the game. The incumbent is a passing fad.

Irish -America is content rather than "a spent force".

I doubt any politician running for office in the U.S. would be willing enough to test your theory by kicking that sleeping tiger.

DEFTLEFTHAND · 06-06-2019 2:37am

Lucy8080 wrote: »

You say Drumpf,I say P.O.T.U.S. -Tomato/tomayto.

P.O.T.U.S. is the game. The incumbent is a passing fad.

Irish -America is content rather than "a spent force".

I doubt any politician running for office in the U.S. would be willing enough to test your theory by kicking that beast.

It is pretty much dead in a political context. Irish American is not considered a voting demographic anymore.

Apart from a few old societies on the east coasts like Friends of Ireland and The Ancient Order of Hibernians, which is full of pensioners,there's nothing much kicking there anymore .

They've well and truly assimilated.

Lucy8080 · 06-06-2019 2:50am

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

It is pretty much dead in a political context. Irish American is not considered a voting demographic anymore.

Apart from a few old societies on the east coasts like Friends of Ireland and The Ancient Order of Hibernians, which is full of pensioners,there's nothing much kicking there anymore .

They've well and truly assimilated.

They are content. Not feeling the need to agitate,if you like. We are kinda in agreement here.

Trump rowed back on his idiotic border gaffe once Leo corrected him. It won't register at home. All he needs to do is get through the next few day's without major upset.

There are times I think it's coming. I Don't know where or when or how,but ,it makes him box office.

Edit: And I don't mean just the Irish demographic. Today's press conference had a lot of potential ,but was so disorganised it got defanged.

brooke 2 · 06-06-2019 3:01am

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Looked great on the news in the sunshine.

Word is some of the trumps are going to join the locals for a few scoops

Doonbeg looked fantastic on the RTÉ news. Not so much on VM...the hotel looked like a haunted house

Poor Uncle Tom · 06-06-2019 7:53am

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

The USA props up the Irish economy?

Sure, don't the soldiers buy mars bars at Shannon on the stop overs.

Auldloon · 06-06-2019 8:11am

Hedgelayer wrote: »

It's one the best surf and fishing beaches in Clare.
It's a storm beach, majestic looking when there's an offshore breeze and a heavy.ground swell.

It was our favourite beach for family visits growing up.

Beechwoodspark · 06-06-2019 8:21am

All the US networks reporting on Doonbeg

Hope they get lots of tour buses for the next few years.

Doonbeg Begorragh!

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