Doonbeg Begorragh!

Deebles McBeebles

weldoninhio wrote: »

Got tomorrows Euromillions numbers Mr Psychic?? :rolleyes:

Aye, good argument.

Just because you are blinded to this moron doesn't mean the rest of us are. Look at what he's doing now if you want, do you think he recycled all the drones and gave the soldiers water pistols?

fryup

yahooo up ya boya

New Ross, Ballyporeen, Moneygall...and now Donnbeg begob sure they're all milking it in, and why wouldn't they? they'd be fools not to

TAFKAlawhec

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

300 people in work

Food on the table mortgages being paid

Things that actually matter to normal people

An attitude that is no different to that shown by the folk in Fermanagh, Cavan and beyond concerning Sean Quinn.

TheDiceMan2020

mcmoustache wrote: »

It's already happened and outside of a few crusties protesting, there hasn't been much of any kind of meltdown.

Fake news

martingriff

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

We agree on that then Martin.



It matters a lot IMO. My boss doesn't openly hate people of certain backgrounds.



Say something a bit better than ah sher they're good lads, one of them gave me a pint begod, too rah loo rah laaaaa...its embarrassing.



There are always more goods. What we should really be asking is what are our own government doing for rural people, F all. So we have to rely on the likes of Trump to save our small communities? I despair.

Just because your boss may not openly say it does not mean they do or show it to others

I agree the government do not do enough in rural places I am actual from a half hour from there. But he employs people let's them get money and maybe stay in the area. Are you saying the government should be doing it

JohnnyFlash

It’s a top class golf course since they sorted out the greens a few years ago. Destined to become a classic.

PistolsAtDawn

Balf wrote: »

In fairness, its a little more complicated than that. Government does spend quite a bit on rural Ireland. It just doesn't seem to connect to anything worthwhile.

And the despair is trying to do something, anything, to show Government is committed to, probably, unrealistic expectations as to what can be done for rural Ireland.

And a good example of this is would be the pantomime around Trump's last visit to Shannon - where our Finance Minister humiliated himself.

Lest we forget.

https://www.thejournal.ie/trump-irish-visit-1460375-May2014/

The first thing they should do is get rid of this madness of a 'local needs' requirement for planning permission in rural areas.
How the f*uck is rural Ireland meant to survive if nobody can build a house there.

I'd be a happy man living in a small timber house somewhere down the country if i could. But I am stuck in Dublin paying extortionate rent and I don't even want to be here.

Let me and my kind go back to the sticks where we belong and that will free up some space in the city for others.

martingriff

PistolsAtDawn wrote: »

The first thing they should do is get rid of this madness of a 'local needs' requirement for planning permission in rural areas.
How the f*uck is rural Ireland meant to survive if nobody can build a house there.

I'd be a happy man living in a small timber house somewhere down the country if i could. But I am stuck in Dublin paying extortionate rent and I don't even want to be here.

Let me and my kind go back to the sticks where we belong and that will free up some space in the city for others.

Sewage, electricity broadband etc should be done for 1 off house. How much would that cost

Balf

PistolsAtDawn wrote: »

The first thing they should do is get rid of this madness of a 'local needs' requirement for planning permission in rural areas.

They may have to

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2019-05-08/1537/#pq-answers-1537_1539

But I don't think that's the problem.

PistolsAtDawn wrote: »

How the f*uck is rural Ireland meant to survive if nobody can build a house there.

Isn't it more about where someone builds? You'll likely know the kind of discussion that goes on about this:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/columnists/michael-clifford/were-not-properly-planning-for-the-future-923385.html

However, we're probably getting off the point. If rural life promotes utter dependency on the likes of Trump, its obviously in a bad place.

In fact, a style of living that makes you this obsequious to anyone is a bad thing. Its just demeaning.

martingriff

Balf wrote: »

They may have to

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2019-05-08/1537/#pq-answers-1537_1539

But I don't think that's the problem.Isn't it more about where someone builds? You'll likely know the kind of discussion that goes on about this:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/views/columnists/michael-clifford/were-not-properly-planning-for-the-future-923385.html

However, we're probably getting off the point. If rural life promotes utter dependency on the likes of Trump, its obviously in a bad place.

In fact, a style of living that makes you this obsequious to anyone is a bad thing. Its just demeaning.

I think your missing the point there it is not Trump per say but it's about employment in the area so people do not have to move. Can pay there way, mortgage etc and get a good life.

Trump is the point here as we are talking about him. It could be Sean Quinn in Cavan or McManus in Adare

Beechwoodspark

Imagine if doonbeg was in Kerry

The Healy Rae’s would be global superstars by now

Grayson

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

There are always more goods. What we should really be asking is what are our own government doing for rural people, F all. So we have to rely on the likes of Trump to save our small communities? I despair.

To be fair Trump isn't saving a community, he's making money for himself. He doesn't give a fcuk aboutnthe community. And the government helped him open the course.

So we end up in a weird position where the government get stick for doing nothing for the community and Trump gets credit.

James Brown

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

300 people in work

Food on the table mortgages being paid

Things that actually matter to normal people

Do you kiss your own bosses arse?

martingriff

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Imagine if doonbeg was in Kerry

The Healy Rae’s would be global superstars by now

They are they have been on the Late Late Show. Lowry's brood who got elected in Tipperary will make sure they are on when it comes back

CrankyHaus

martingriff wrote: »

They are they have been on the Late Late Show. Lowry's brood who got elected in Tipperary will make sure they are on when it comes back

Ah, the Late Late Show, that stepping stone to global superstardom.

odyssey06

Balf wrote: »

However, we're probably getting off the point. If rural life promotes utter dependency on the likes of Trump, its obviously in a bad place.
In fact, a style of living that makes you this obsequious to anyone is a bad thing. Its just demeaning.

I think if the CEO rolls into a multi-national office in Dublin, there's a certain amount of ah... deference... shown. It's just it happens behind closed doors.

But in Doonbeg, when you add in the Oirishness expected by certain tourists, it looks a lot worse in the spotlight of the international media.

CrankyHaus

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Ah, the Late Late Show, that stepping stone to global superstardom.

Marty Morrissey is a household name around the world :pac:

martingriff

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair Trump isn't saving a community, he's making money for himself. He doesn't give a fcuk aboutnthe community. And the government helped him open the course.

So we end up in a weird position where the government get stick for doing nothing for the community and Trump gets credit.

He is giving jobs (and of course he does not care about the people its business) as other companies do so they can live in the area and pay bills are you saying the government should be doing this exclusively. By the way genuine question how did government help open the course.

martingriff

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Ah, the Late Late Show, that stepping stone to global superstardom.

:p.

martingriff

odyssey06 wrote: »

I think if the CEO rolls into a multi-national office in Dublin, there's a certain amount of ah... deference... shown. It's just it happens behind closed doors.

But in Doonbeg, when you add in the Oirishness expected by certain tourists, it looks a lot worse in the spotlight of the international media.

Exactly

odyssey06

odyssey06 wrote: »

I think if the CEO rolls into a multi-national office in Dublin, there's a certain amount of ah... deference... shown. It's just it happens behind closed doors.

We had a board member of our company visit the small regional office I work in a few weeks ago.

First visit ever for his managerial level to come to this country. The local managers nearly prostrated themselves on the ground before him.

Boggles

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

I thought naming a motorway service station after Obama was the height of silly paddywhackery.

I wouldn't call it next to near silly.

The place is basically printing money for McDonagh.

Tchaikovsky

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair Trump isn't saving a community, he's making money for himself. He doesn't give a fcuk aboutnthe community. And the government helped him open the course.

Watch the documentary about the golf course he built in Aberdeenshire. The way him and his cronies, along with the local police, treated the locals was despicable.

Grayson

martingriff wrote: »

He is giving jobs (and of course he does not care about the people its business) as other companies do so they can live in the area and pay bills are you saying the government should be doing this exclusively. By the way genuine question how did government help open the course.

I'm not saying the government should do that and I'm not sure how anyone would think I meant that.

The government departments facilitated the sale. They always do when it's something that big. And they would have helped with building the course originally before trump came along.

Remember the place cost something like 28 million to build in the first place and trump paid something like 8 million for it in 2004. So all he did was buy an existing business for a bargain.

Grayson

Tchaikovsky wrote: »

Watch the documentary about the golf course he built in Aberdeenshire. The way him and his cronies, along with the local police, treated the locals was despicable.

I've seen that. It is truly horrible.

BattleCorp

Grayson wrote: »

To be fair Trump isn't saving a community, he's making money for himself. He doesn't give a fcuk aboutnthe community. And the government helped him open the course.

So what if Trump is making money for himself. That doesn't bother me in the slightest because he is giving much needed employment in the area.

How do you know he doesn't give a fcuk about the community? He's giving some of them work, isn't he?

BattleCorp

Grayson wrote: »

Remember the place cost something like 28 million to build in the first place and trump paid something like 8 million for it in 2004. So all he did was buy an existing business for a bargain.

That's called doing good business.

He did a bit more than just buy an existing business. He invested a fair few quid in it too.

gormdubhgorm

Deleted User wrote: »

I liked the piece with the local parish priest saying he has secured a place in heaven for the Trumps.

This is precisely the sort of cutting edge image Ireland needs to project for itself and fight back against those pernicious technological centre, business-friendly, gay-friendly, liberal stereotypes.

I also think Donald did a great service to international relations with his highly informed analysis concerning that notorious wall between free and occupied Ireland. He knows his stuff, God bless him. Great guy, great, great guy.

Not many people know that.
Tremendous.

Balf

martingriff wrote: »

I think your missing the point there it is not Trump per say but it's about employment in the area so people do not have to move. Can pay there way, mortgage etc and get a good life.

Trump is the point here as we are talking about him. It could be Sean Quinn in Cavan or McManus in Adare

No, no point is being missed. I'm absolutely talking about the same obsequious mindset that you are referring to.

odyssey06 wrote: »

I think if the CEO rolls into a multi-national office in Dublin, there's a certain amount of ah... deference... shown. It's just it happens behind closed doors.

But in Doonbeg, when you add in the Oirishness expected by certain tourists, it looks a lot worse in the spotlight of the international media.

You think something like this goes on behind closed doors in multinational companies?

https://twitter.com/SiCarswell/status/1136352261691641856

You think this degree of deference is in evidence on those occasions? (From a couple of years before Trump became President.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9i1HHTdcXU

There's deference, and then there's abject submission.

martingriff

Grayson wrote: »

I'm not saying the government should do that and I'm not sure how anyone would think I meant that.

The government departments facilitated the sale. They always do when it's something that big. And they would have helped with building the course originally before trump came along.

Remember the place cost something like 28 million to build in the first place and trump paid something like 8 million for it in 2004. So all he did was buy an existing business for a bargain.

Do you know how much the place was in debt. Also many many ventures were sold for a song when the bubble burst. How did the government facilitate. Are you saying there was something illegal going on. This is a genuine question as I do not know.

As for your second point your post read as the government should be doing what a Business (Trump in this cases) is