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Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

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    #2822
    TimesArrow
    Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭TimesArrow


    Lithium93_ wrote: »
    I'm almost certain that Val Venis falls on the Pro-Trump side.

    I know Big CASS got a lot of heat backtstage over his pro trump views .. Batista made an interesting statement recently saying how he wished others on his positions ( in acting or wrestling) were more outspoken in their views. Rock recently endorsed Biden I think. I wonder does any of this cause tension backstage given the McMahons family’s close ties to DT. It honestly wouldn’t surprise me if Cena was a full blown MAGA head


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    #2823
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,115 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    TimesArrow wrote: »
    Yeah I’m fairly sure there’s a good few, notably Vince of course. Who else is a confirmed trump supporter? Ziggler?

    The most outspoken I’ve seen a n the other side Are Sami and Batista
    Undertaker. He was wearing Trump t-shirts in his documentary.

    Jackson Ryker recently got called out for supporting Trump during the Black Lives Matter protests.

    Road Dogg is another big Trump cultist.

    Cody almost definitely. A few years back he posted on Twitter bragging about drinking whiskey in his MAGA hat and complained about foreigners working in Starbucks. A few months ago he liked tweets that were telling Sami Zayn to go back to Canada if he didn't like how Trump was dealing with Covid. He then unliked them when called out about it and said it was an "accident".

    The Young Bucks were posting shít about Obama being a "socialist fraud", although that was a long time ago now but that seems like typical MAGA talk.

    Loads of wrestlers probably are but doing it publicly is career suicide, or merch sales suicide at least.


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    #2824
    Riddle101
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Just thinking of the days I used to watch WWE Livewire every Saturday morning after Smackdown on Sky 1. Johnathan Coachman used to present it. Never thought I'd see that guy become a heelish on-screen personality later down the line.


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    #2825
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,556 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Undertaker. He was wearing Trump t-shirts in his documentary.

    Jackson Ryker recently got called out for supporting Trump during the Black Lives Matter protests.

    Road Dogg is another big Trump cultist.

    Cody almost definitely. A few years back he posted on Twitter bragging about drinking whiskey in his MAGA hat and complained about foreigners working in Starbucks. A few months ago he liked tweets that were telling Sami Zayn to go back to Canada if he didn't like how Trump was dealing with Covid. He then unliked them when called out about it and said it was an "accident".

    The Young Bucks were posting shít about Obama being a "socialist fraud", although that was a long time ago now but that seems like typical MAGA talk.

    Loads of wrestlers probably are but doing it publicly is career suicide, or merch sales suicide at least.

    Christ. So not the inclusive, progressive person he wants us to believe. That’s one of the issues I have with AEW is they preach one thing but as is clear from above the facade slips. I mean the JR tweet from earlier in the week would be something AEW and others would crucify wwe for but if one of their employees does the same thing you hear nothing. And Brandi Rhodes can pretend all she wants to be different from Steph McMahon but she’s as bad as her in shoehorning herself in matches and things there’s no reason to be in.


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    #2826
    Smacruairi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Smacruairi


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Undertaker. He was wearing Trump t-shirts in his documentary.

    Jackson Ryker recently got called out for supporting Trump during the Black Lives Matter protests.

    Road Dogg is another big Trump cultist.

    Cody almost definitely. A few years back he posted on Twitter bragging about drinking whiskey in his MAGA hat and complained about foreigners working in Starbucks. A few months ago he liked tweets that were telling Sami Zayn to go back to Canada if he didn't like how Trump was dealing with Covid. He then unliked them when called out about it and said it was an "accident".

    The Young Bucks were posting shít about Obama being a "socialist fraud", although that was a long time ago now but that seems like typical MAGA talk.

    Loads of wrestlers probably are but doing it publicly is career suicide, or merch sales suicide at least.

    Do a wrestler's political views even matter, especially when I don't think anyone knows why they would be in favour of x or y, and not a or b. To dismiss someone based solely on their political stances, especially when no one has heard them explain their position just seems like folly to be honest.

    "I heard Rikisihi wore a maga hat... Ooooh burn the witch". I would have thought wrestling fans, who growing up might have been taunted relentlessly for wearing wrestling merch, would resist the witchhunt and snap judgments.


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    #2827
    sky88
    Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    When they support crap like qanon and covid deneying crap and homophobia etc I think it matters as you can’t support them fully

    This isn’t always just as simple as they support one political party


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    #2828
    Smacruairi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭Smacruairi


    sky88 wrote: »
    When they support crap like qanon and covid deneying crap and homophobia etc I think it matters as you can’t support them fully

    This isn’t always just as simple as they support one political party

    Well I don't know what QAnon is, I suggest it might be something that lives only on the Internet.
    Covid denying, I'd say it's not covid minimising, which is an active part of our own govt strategy when they decided against going with NPHETS suggestion of level 5,so I can't judge anyone on that one to be fair.
    Homophobia, again if there are comments and public statements where they have done that, I would not choose to support them, but anything said in a calm and rational way, not a random recording of an attempted "joke" etc. I would then consider.

    I just don't like the increasing polarisation of society where if you look at a person's hair style you can immediately tell their whole social and political viewpoint in 2 seconds.


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    #2829
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 37,892 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Just thinking of the days I used to watch WWE Livewire every Saturday morning after Smackdown on Sky 1. Johnathan Coachman used to present it. Never thought I'd see that guy become a heelish on-screen personality later down the line.

    Those were the days

    Raw on Friday nights too


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    #2830
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,556 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    25 years ago tonight wwf held IYH 4 in Winnipeg, Canada and it’s on the live channel on the network right now. This is the event where Shawn Michaels was stripped of the IC title to Sean Douglas who’s reign didn’t last long.


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    #2831
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,556 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    In light of the weekend that’s in it with the latest instalments into the HIAC match body of work happening this weekend,I’ve just finished watching the first one between taker and Shawn Michaels. What a classic match that still holds up to this day. It should be required viewing for any wrestler in wwe who’s about to have their first HIAC match, because even though you couldn’t do some of the things from the first match today for obvious reasons, the psychological of the match is perfect.


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    #2832
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 37,892 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    https://youtu.be/Da7wbWmaILo

    First I've seen of this type of wrestling hobby. Looking up prices of the boxes and they are not cheap

    The Collectors card market is gold if you have the right stuff


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    #2833
    J. Marston
    Registered Users Posts: 23,115 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Road Dogg is such an insufferable arsehole. He's one of those anti-mask, Covid is nonsense gowls. Shane Helms is putting him in his place on Twitter.


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    #2834
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Road Dogg is such an insufferable arsehole. He's one of those anti-mask, Covid is nonsense gowls. Shane Helms is putting him in his place on Twitter.

    If ever there was a bloke who I'd be happy to see the retrospective police go after for his sh1t gimmick.


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    #2835
    sky88
    Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Hurricane always seemed like one of the good ones


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    #2836
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Road Dogg is such an insufferable arsehole. He's one of those anti-mask, Covid is nonsense gowls. Shane Helms is putting him in his place on Twitter.

    If IIRC, James was the lad venting his displeasure at BLM movement too back in the summer.

    Appartently an irate HBK put him in his place after being educated on the matter by his kid.


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    #2837
    sky88
    Registered Users Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    https://twitter.com/shanehelmscom/status/1320498027677782018?s=21


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    #2838
    The White Wolf
    Registered Users Posts: 5,162 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    I'd understand if Road Dogg was an idea machine but his tenure on both SD and NXT have been dirt.


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    #2839
    beakerjoe
    Registered Users Posts: 20,753 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    The White Wolf wrote: »
    I'd understand if Road Dogg was an idea machine but his tenure on both SD and NXT have been dirt.

    Im not defending him, but what have you got to back that up?


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    #2840
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 37,892 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Thinking about it now very hard to see the Royal Rumble working in this type of format with no fans in attendance

    Could we see it been moved to where fans can attend or even pushed back ?


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    #2841
    Loughc
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 24,765 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Thinking about it now very hard to see the Royal Rumble working in this type of format with no fans in attendance

    Could we see it been moved to where fans can attend or even pushed back ?

    They won’t push it back. Considering the company went ahead with Mania with no fans they will certainly go ahead with the rumble with no fans.


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    #2842
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users Posts: 28,846 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    They mightn't have as many surprises due to lack of reactions, not counting their fake reactions.

    On that note, is it only us that hears the noise or can they hear the noise in the Thunderdome?


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    #2843
    B.A._Baracus
    Registered Users Posts: 11,179 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    25 years ago tonight wwf held IYH 4 in Winnipeg, Canada and it’s on the live channel on the network right now. This is the event where Shawn Michaels was stripped of the IC title to Sean Douglas who’s reign didn’t last long.

    The whole bar fight huh...
    Michaels was a little diva back in the day, wasn't he?

    There can't be anyone else who got away with what he did..


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    #2844
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,556 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    B.A._Baracus wrote: »
    The whole bar fight huh...
    Michaels was a little diva back in the day, wasn't he?

    There can't be anyone else who got away with what he did..

    The ever changing number of marines yeah. He was lucky he was so gifted in the ring because many people who were there at the time either were indifferent to him or hated him be us he was an asshole. I’m sure people got leeway compared to others but no I can’t think of anyone else who could do what he did and get away with it.


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    #2845
    Riddle101
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Anyone else like Pete Dunne's theme? I think It has an old school feel to it. Like the music, you would have heard during the 90's. I quite like it like that.


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    #2846
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users Posts: 60,349 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    I wonder is Vince living in Florida now or does he fly down for the shows.

    Or even does he attend them anymore and video links in.


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    #2847
    Riddle101
    Registered Users Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I've seen some terrible promos in the past but this one between Roman Reigns and John Cena really takes the cake. Reigns got absolutely destroyed by Cena here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36cLMYMrOTk


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    #2848
    TimesArrow
    Registered Users Posts: 773 ✭✭✭TimesArrow


    Have been watching a lot of older stuff on the network and rewatching a lot of older Rock and Austin stuff. Personally, when I think back on these two, it’s mainly “moments” I remember rather than matches ( I know they’ve both have numerous great matches but we’re mainly so over Cos of their mic skills) so I’m wondering, what are your top Austin and/or Rock matches? I don’t mean gaisnt each other necessarily but some of their matches are classics


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    #2849
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,556 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    TimesArrow wrote: »
    Have been watching a lot of older stuff on the network and rewatching a lot of older Rock and Austin stuff. Personally, when I think back on these two, it’s mainly “moments” I remember rather than matches ( I know they’ve both have numerous great matches but we’re mainly so over Cos of their mic skills) so I’m wondering, what are your top Austin and/or Rock matches? I don’t mean gaisnt each other necessarily but some of their matches are classics

    The three mania matches come to mind straight away with 17 being the best of the three as a whole.


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    #2850
    Omackeral
    Registered Users Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    The three mania matches come to mind straight away with 17 being the best of the three as a whole.

    I loved their often forgotten match from In Your House D-Generation X for the IC Title. Basically Austin battering the Nation all over his pick up truck :pac:

    austin-vs-nation-of-domination-in-your-house-degeneration-x.gif


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    #2851
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,556 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Omackeral wrote: »
    I loved their often forgotten match from In Your House D-Generation X for the IC Title. Basically Austin battering the Nation all over his pick up truck :pac:

    austin-vs-nation-of-domination-in-your-house-degeneration-x.gif

    The nation I can understand but who’s the ref ? chioda ? Often forgotten is right as I can’t remember when I’ve seen that match last.


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