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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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    #1082
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    If the vaccine works and cases / deaths tumble he won’t have any poker hand to play with.

    It’ll be some other ****e then. This thing is a cult


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    #1083
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    john4321 wrote: »
    Why did off licenses stay open then?

    Wasn’t able to get enough support in government! They knew they’d lose the dressing room immediately if they we closed so remained open. NPHET discussed it many times and I believe did suggest it to government also at one point! Mark my words, if Tony could do it he would!

    I think TD’s being drinkers themselves has played a role in the idea not being anything more than NPHET bolloxoligy


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    #1084
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Captain_Crash wrote: »
    Wasn’t able to get enough support in government! They knew they’d lose the dressing room immediately if they we closed so remained open. NPHET discussed it many times and I believe did suggest it to government also at one point! Mark my words, if Tony could do it he would!

    I think TD’s being drinkers themselves has played a role in the idea not being anything more than NPHET bolloxoligy

    I secretly hoped he might succeed- to show him up for the autocratic fanatic he is and cause deep public dissatisfaction against lockdown and indeed Nphet


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    #1085
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Rrrrrr2 wrote: »
    I’ve never listened to him- but (very regrettably)the government do and are scared stiff of him for some reason- thus his hysterical whims have impeded my freedoms for the best part of a year now

    The lockdown hasn’t really affected me at all for my day to day life. Due to my work i can travel anywhere past the 5km and can even use my work as an excuse if i wanted to.

    The only main thing that affected me is that i can’t travel to see family. When i get the vaccine that will change and there will be 2 fingers to the 2 week quarantine.


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    #1086
    Fodla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    If the vaccine works and cases / deaths tumble he won’t have any poker hand to play with.

    But who's going to stand up to him based on the evidence of the past 8 months? RTÉ? The Irish Times? The Irish Independent? The government?

    Are people going to protest? Only a few hundred people have protested up to now. Are millions of people suddenly going to appear on the streets? I see nothing to suggest that's likely.


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    #1087
    Fodla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    Penfailed wrote: »
    They will complement the measures until enough of the vaccine has been rolled out to enough people. This has already been explained in this thread. I would've thought it was obvious and didn't need an explanation...but there you go.

    Isn't it odd that they never said the bit about "until enough ..."?


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    #1088
    Ha Long Bay
    Registered Users Posts: 14,604 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    Captain_Crash wrote: »
    Wasn’t able to get enough support in government! They knew they’d lose the dressing room immediately if they we closed so remained open. NPHET discussed it many times and I believe did suggest it to government also at one point! Mark my words, if Tony could do it he would!

    I think TD’s being drinkers themselves has played a role in the idea not being anything more than NPHET bolloxoligy



    So to be clear the point you are making he\NPHET did not have the power to make these decisions? That goes against so many posts here saying the opposite.


    Next time someone posts saying that Tony or NPHET run the country hopefully you will be one of the first to dismiss it.


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    #1089
    Micky 32
    Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32


    Fodla wrote: »
    But who's going to stand up to him based on the evidence of the past 8 months? RTÉ? The Irish Times? The Irish Independent? The government?

    Are people going to protest? Only a few hundred people have protested up to now. Are millions of people suddenly going to appear on the streets? I see nothing to suggest that's likely.


    As it is people are not adhering to the 5km. There’s traffic everywhere. There’s no buy in like last March.

    A few people might be buying in due to the xmas carrot dangling. When dreary January comes what stick will they wave to promote the Jan/Feb lockdown? People will be fed up.


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    #1090
    Fodla
    Closed Accounts Posts: 281 ✭✭Fodla


    Micky 32 wrote: »
    As it is people are not adhering to the 5km. There’s traffic everywhere. There’s no buy in like last March.

    You're right, but if he keeps the country locked down or even half locked down people will be able to do next to nothing.


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    #1091
    boggerman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,070 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    john4321 wrote: »
    Why would he try and do this? How would he personally benefit from this and what is the ultimate goal?

    Salvage his reputation after his central role in cervical cancer debacle.end of


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    #1092
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Who wants lockdowns to continue? Not I, that's for sure.

    Sadly there are many people who would love for this to go on indefinitely. From classroom environmentalists who think leaving us locked in our homes will be great for the environment. To the classroom Socialists/Communists who dream of complete Govt control of their lives.


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    #1093
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    john4321 wrote: »
    So to be clear the point you are making he\NPHET did not have the power to make these decisions? That goes against so many posts here saying the opposite.


    Next time someone posts saying that Tony or NPHET run the country hopefully you will be one of the first to dismiss it.

    I think you’re rather selectively picking out one of the very very few instances where St Tony didnt get his little way as some kind of illustration of him not running the country?

    But then of course the corollary must also be true when he got his whissy fit way (which has been in most instances since March).


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    #1094
    Penfailed
    Registered Users Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Fodla wrote: »
    Isn't it odd that they never said the bit about "until enough ..."?

    I'd imagine they thought it was obvious and didn't need to spell it out.

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    #1095
    Penfailed
    Registered Users Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    Sadly there are many people who would love for this to go on indefinitely. From classroom environmentalists who think leaving us locked in our homes will be great for the environment. To the classroom Socialists/Communists who dream of complete Govt control of their lives.

    This was the post I replied to asking who wanted lockdowns to continue - "You can tell the financial and political leanings of some of the posters here when they want the lockdowns to continue."
    Which posters here?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



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    #1096
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    john4321 wrote: »
    So to be clear the point you are making he\NPHET did not have the power to make these decisions? That goes against so many posts here saying the opposite.


    Next time someone posts saying that Tony or NPHET run the country hopefully you will be one of the first to dismiss it.

    I think your picking at semantics here... infact if you have to rely on one salient point of the Holyone not getting his way don’t you think it supports the argument that he/NPHET is de-facto the shot caller??


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    #1097
    froog
    Registered Users Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    This thread has gone completely off the rails now. An echo chamber of thinly veiled conspiracy and anti state nutters. Masks slipping all over the place.


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    #1098
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    froog wrote: »
    This thread has gone completely off the rails now. An echo chamber of thinly veiled conspiracy and anti state nutters. Masks slipping all over the place.

    So you’ve said several times now. And yet you’re still here? I also note you haven’t engaged or challenged any of these alleged conspiracies you seem so hot and bothered about. Posts like this are the internet equivalent of a standard 4 years old temper tantrum


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    #1099
    Mean Laqueefa
    Registered Users Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Mean Laqueefa


    froog wrote: »
    This thread has gone completely off the rails now. An echo chamber of thinly veiled conspiracy and anti state nutters. Masks slipping all over the place.

    You seem to keep posting the same reply every day or so on why they think or form there opinion. And then accuse anyone who doesn't have the same opinion as yourself of being a conspiracy nutter or anti-state nutter.


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    #1100
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    Mean Laqueefa wrote: »
    You seem to keep posting the same reply every day or so on why they think or form there opinion. And then accuse anyone who doesn't have the same opinion as yourself of being a conspiracy nutter or anti-state nutter.

    These people are either too stupid or too lazy to engage in debate- or probably both.
    They think the powers of a police state should extend here in also to silence anyone they disagree with. Sadly Nphet are cut from the same cloth as these people so little surprise they cant cope with reasoned criticism of same


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    #1101
    Rrrrrr2
    Registered Users Posts: 982 ✭✭✭Rrrrrr2


    #abolishNpet- delighted to see a relatively senior TD call for their sublimation
    https://twitter.com/murphyeoghan/status/1331341647951646720?s=21

    We can but dream this Frankenstinian nightmare may be about to be punctured. At the very least they’re taking a lot of water now


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    #1102
    Ted_YNWA
    Registered Users Posts: 71,799 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    froog wrote: »
    Thread gone full conspiracy theory again.
    froog wrote: »
    This thread has gone completely off the rails now. An echo chamber of thinly veiled conspiracy and anti state nutters. Masks slipping all over the place.

    Mod

    You obviously don't like thread.

    Simple solution - don't read it


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    #1103
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,716 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    McConkey on NT saying German TV has rang him up to talk about why Ireland is doing better than they are - his "man with two pints" moment I reckon!

    Trying to suggest we should legally force people who are a "case" to stay home.


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    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,118 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    How is he even given air time he's a complete crack pot.

    "The Minister for Health Simon Harris has said that he is taking seriously the advice of expert epidemiologist Professor Sam McConkey who predicted there could be between 80,000 and 120,000 deaths in Ireland from coronavirus"
    March 9th 2020

    Where's all the dead people???


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    #1105
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,314 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Rrrrrr2 wrote: »
    #abolishNpet- delighted to see a relatively senior TD call for their sublimation
    https://twitter.com/murphyeoghan/status/1331341647951646720?s=21

    We can but dream this Frankenstinian nightmare may be about to be punctured. At the very least they’re taking a lot of water now


    at last , somebody from the inner sanctum speaks sense.


    he must have been reading my posts here:pac:


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    #1106
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,727 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    How is he even given air time he's a complete crack pot.

    "The Minister for Health Simon Harris has said that he is taking seriously the advice of expert epidemiologist Professor Sam McConkey who predicted there could be between 80,000 and 120,000 deaths in Ireland from coronavirus"
    March 9th 2020

    Where's all the dead people???

    Someone will be along soon to tell you that closing pubs obviously prevented those 118000 deaths.


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    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    State may face €1bn in compensation in Covid-19 case, Press Up claims
    Hospitality group is suing Government for compensation over shutdown of its sector

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/state-may-face-1bn-in-compensation-in-covid-19-case-press-up-claims-1.4419355

    Great news. Great news to wake up and read. GET IN. I am getting ready for govt solicitors to come out and say "these were advisory guidelines really, not legally binding" :rolleyes:

    Finally.

    Mr Power concludes that was a State “policy failure” in failing to design a sufficiently robust testing and contact tracing system, as well as a failure to add sufficient intensive care capacity since March, that led to the introduction of ongoing Level 5 restrictions last month.

    “Policy is being driven by circumstantial evidence,” the report claims, referencing the fact that only 49 of the 8,311 virus clusters identified so far have been traced back to hospitality outlets.


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    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    McConkey on NT saying German TV has rang him up to talk about why Ireland is doing better than they are - his "man with two pints" moment I reckon!

    Trying to suggest we should legally force people who are a "case" to stay home.

    That has to have been a prank call. I bet it was someone on here putting on a really fake and exaggerated German accent.


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    #1109
    manniot2
    Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    State may face €1bn in compensation in Covid-19 case, Press Up claims
    Hospitality group is suing Government for compensation over shutdown of its sector

    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/state-may-face-1bn-in-compensation-in-covid-19-case-press-up-claims-1.4419355

    Great news. Great news to wake up and read. GET IN. I am getting ready for govt solicitors to come out and say "these were advisory guidelines really, not legally binding" :rolleyes:

    Finally.

    Mr Power concludes that was a State “policy failure” in failing to design a sufficiently robust testing and contact tracing system, as well as a failure to add sufficient intensive care capacity since March, that led to the introduction of ongoing Level 5 restrictions last month.

    “Policy is being driven by circumstantial evidence,” the report claims, referencing the fact that only 49 of the 8,311 virus clusters identified so far have been traced back to hospitality outlets.

    As much as I welcome this, they have little or no chance of succeeding. As far as I know, plenty have tried in the UK and nothing has come of it.


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    #1110
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,716 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    O'Neill on with Pat Kenny telling us all to open the windows and let a draught in - including in cars. Ever tried that at motorway speeds?

    Maybe this is the new approach.. keep the hysteria going by prompting more cases of flu-like symptoms.. hmm! :rolleyes:


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    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,118 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    manniot2 wrote: »
    As much as I welcome this, they have little or no chance of succeeding. As far as I know, plenty have tried in the UK and nothing has come of it.

    Supreme Court has ruled against Cumo's religious ban.
    "The court ruled 5-4 to bar Cuomo from enforcing his Oct. 6 “Cluster Initiative” against houses of worship that sued to challenge the restrictions. "
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/supreme-court-rules-against-cuomos-coronavirus-limits-with-barrett-playing-key-role

    Here we had BLM protests defended by Ministers yet families weren't allowed in to their own relations funerals.
    There's absolutely a case here waiting to happen.


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