New tv for series x

joe123 wrote: »

Ive always gone for TV's in the 400-500 bracket, it will do the job type thing but yeah, this time around with my last TV just breaking a month a head of GEN5 I'm thinking yep this time im going up a level.

It really is the burn in aspect that worries me though. Considering 1 game of FIFA takes ~20 minutes, I sometimes can easily play multiple macthes in one session over watching a tv show.

I think I'm at the point of looking at these 3. Omitting the LG CX/BX due to screen burn. I dont want to be faced with that issue in 4 years.

Samsung Q80T - Q950T
Sony XH950
Sony XH9005

Im probably over analysing it at this stage but for splashing big money I want to make sure its a good one

Am I right in saying the most important aspects in order are
1. Good HDR
2. HDMI 2.1
3. Dolby Vision

(Annoyingly none of the above TV's tick all the boxes outside of the LG)

Im assuming all these TVs would have very low refresh rate/latency in this price bracket.

My thoughts

Samsung Q9 (would not buy a lower model Sammy) - very good TV, best LCD on sale today but too expensive - no better than my Panny DX902 that was released in 2016.

Sony XH95 - really good all round TV and decent price but NOT getting the HDMI 2.1 updates. I would buy as a non-gaming TV.

Sony XH90 - slightly lower model than above so older processor but has already received it's first feature update (120Hz) with more to come (VRR etc). This is the one Sony are flogging as their "ready for PS5" model. As a primarily gaming TV, I would go for this - and most likely will around March/April time.

Deleted User wrote: »

Lads the Qleds are amazing, trust me. You're not going to look at a Qled and think omg the blacks are sh!t I should have gone for an Oled.

I can't believe someone would buy a TV thinking I'm going to use the warranty in 4 years or take LG to the small claims court!!

I got myself a 75" Q70T for 2k. The 77" Cx was around 8k i think. Only negative is if you need more than one hdmi 2.1 port because it only has the one.

I have a 2018 Q6N 55". Would there be a noticeable difference in picture quality if I jumped to a 2020 Q80T?

I'm looking at the 75" model.

Also, I assume this has HDMI 2.1?? For the life of me I can't see it written anywhere on Samsung's spec sheet.

If you want to play games in 4k make sure it has hdmi 2.1 read a review of the TV to make sure it has low latency .
I think 8k is just Bs hype, no games are going to be made for 8k this generation no one has 8k tvs
Will all games be able to run in 4k 120 htz mode
It's too early to say
Don't buy a TV if hdmi 2.1 us not mentioned in the specification listing
It's probably hdmi 2. O

I was actually going to buy the Sony 55” today. If there’s an issue with the hdmi 2.1 I’ll leave it for a few weeks.

Hey_Listen wrote: »

Best to wait until the new consoles are publically tested with new games on the new TVs. They're will be incompatibilities, bugs, issues. I'd wait for the dust to settle. I'd say you'll get a much better and fully compatible TV at a much better price in a year or so.

So not the same issue as with the Sony TV, but there's a bunch of AV receivers that have a HDMI 2.1 bug that just flashes a black screen and that actually is a HDMI 2.1 bug with a chip from Panasonic that's used by a few different brands.

ziggyman17 wrote: »

was going to buy the Sony 65 xh900 but some people are saying that the update to make the hdmi 2.1 is broken and messes up the tv, will wait till the new consoles are out and people are using their Sony tvs hooked up to the console to see if I commit to buying the xh900,

Tilikum17 wrote: »

I was actually going to buy the Sony 55” today. If there’s an issue with the hdmi 2.1 I’ll leave it for a few weeks.

I've been mad busy the last few weeks so have not been following in any detail, I did see mention of some owners having having lip sync issues after the update but I don't intend to use a soundbar/AV receiver so did not look into it any further. Also I'm not looking to buy until March/April so the situation should be much clearer then.

AV Forums Sony section may be useful for digging up info for those interested

Vinny has released a Xbox specific video (with no xbox to test on ). Nothing really new, Sony with a few bugs to iron out but would still be my first choice as a bang for buck purchase.

One thing I will note that I've seen/heard of quite a bit lately is the DSE on those Samsung Q9 models, that's terrible for such an expensive TV

Ok so thoughts on the Hisense U8QF (H9G) as a gaming TV? Seems well specced and well reviewed. I know it’s not hdmi 2.1 but Is bc that really necessary? 4K 60hz will be the norm and if this is a native 120hz panel can always do 1440p at 120hz if I wanted. Very few games will be 4K 120hz this upcoming gen.

Tilikum17 wrote: »

Does it have the hdmi 2.1 update yet?

From what I've read/seen, it's got some of the planned update but not all the features are covered yet. 120Hz update is there although with a niggle or two. VRR and ALLM to be covered in upcoming releases.

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1602672819

my tv supports everything except for 120FPS and also have the same issue I am having with dolby atmos and the soundbar ( think this is an Arc/eArc issue) that i had with the one X will wait a few months and see how tvs handle everything.

I need a TV for both and wondering if there will be one that will be able to handle the two of them without much configuration.

how much are you talking for say a 32 inch tv that supports 4k and 120 fps?

With no sign of my Series X arriving anytime soon, I'm getting distracted with tv research!

The consensus (in this thread, on RTings etc) seems to be that the LG CX series is the current pinnacle, with the Samsung 95/90T and Sony KD-A8 series as being worthy contenders?

I get that OLED is generally better than QLED. But I did like the concept of the Samsung 95T, without being able to see it in the flesh at present. I liked the idea of the One Connect box (to basically hide away all the HDMI, LAN and power cables). The link in to Samsung-own series of sound bars seems well thought through. Plus the room my Xbox will be in is a bit brighter, so QLED might suit better.

I like the Sony android integration (I know lot's of people don't!). Never owned an LG or a Samsung.

On the other hand, the early Black Friday deals seem to be really really cutting the LG prices, relative to Sony and Samsung models. I think RTings said somewhere that the Samsung was circa 200 cheaper against LG at launch? Now it seems that a 65 inch LG is almost €250 cheaper than the other two.

So, if I can get the funds together..pay for the LG, buy a soundbar with the savings and get an electrician to sort out hiding the wires in the pillar?

I'm in the process of getting a CX from the Richer Sounds lads over in their forum.

Can't wait.

druss wrote: »

Feedback required on how this works out for you and what soundbar you select!

I was tempted by the Sonos Arc, but then I've started seeing good reviews for the Sony HT-G700 which is half the price. The Arc is probably much better but unexpected expenses, roof leaks, took my budget away from me that was pushing my towards the Arc.

In terms of the CX, it replaces a 4K Philips. The Philips was pretty good in fairness for gaming and bright and animated movies. But it really pissed me off for programs and films with dark scenes. I'd always get a lot of banding and pixelating in dark scenes and no amount of fiddling around with settings would make me happy. The OS was awful though, very slow and laggy.

Not an issue with the CX, I never really understood reviews talking about how blacks look great, but now I do. If I'm watching something in a dark room and the scene goes black, it's as if the TV disappears.

druss wrote: »

Feedback required on how this works out for you and what soundbar you select!

yeah I am interested in this as my atmos soundbar wont work and supposedly its to do with Arc/ eArc and is a well know issue ( well was on the one X and appears to have carried over)

now if I use passthrough it works but then the visual quality gets effected in essence I can have one or the other.

Hurrache wrote: »

Next on my list is a Dolby Atmos soundbar to go with it.

I have the JBL 9.1 sitting in a Currys shopping cart with the xh90 which totals £1500 after cashback. I'm so bloody tempted to go with it but. . . .2nd kid was born 3 days ago so that money could come in handy for the year ahead while she's off work. Damn adult life getting in the way of tech purchases

Been doing a ton of research on TV's over the last few weeks.

After looking into it all, it really is down to two TV's if you want to make the most of what GEN5 can offer.

Consensus seems to be:

1. LG CX

2. Samsung Q90T / 950T

I'd decide here and now on the LG CX but Image Burn has been mentioned constantly by pretty much all articles and reviews I've read.

Unless you only spend a couple of hours a week gaming, it shouldnt be a concern but for those of us who could easily spend 3+ hours in one sitting, then its just too much of a risk imo. Titles with static huds (and bright static huds especially) are killers. Unfortunately FIFA is a title I play a lot of.

But by all accounts quality wise, the LG CX trumps everything.

Samsung Q90T is the best LCD TV. No image burn fears but doesnt quite match the LG CX in terms of quality.

Are there any companies that offer warranties that cover screen burn on OLEDS? To see image burn two years down the line after spending the guts of 1500 euro on a TV would be a killer.

Screen burn is not something to worry about. I think I linked to it already in this thread but one crowd are testing the life out of it and at that it's not a problem unless you leave something like a news channel on 24 hours a day over the lifetime of the TV.

Most reviews mention it by way of passing that it's something people worry about, not that it's a problem for a regular user.

When it comes to lag, Samsung's are good but it's down to the model, not the mode across the range, there's plenty that are better when it comes to lag.

Hurrache wrote: »

Screen burn is not something to worry about. I think I linked to it already in this thread but one crowd are testing the life out of it and at that it's not a problem unless you leave something like a news channel on 24 hours a day over the lifetime of the TV.

Most reviews mention it by way of passing that it's something people worry about, not that it's a problem for a regular user.

I dont want to turn it in to one of those threads but I cant let posts like this go without a response. Burn in or image retention is still very much a factor. If it were not a factor, why have LG Display changed the subpixel structure in almost every annual revision in an effort to combat it (along with additional features e.g. pixel refresh etc.)?

Head over to AVForums OLED section and you'll see very clear evidence of it on an almost daily basis. Generally it takes 2-3 years to show but that is still not acceptable on a £1000+ TV - too soon to say how good the protective measures are on the CX models. Plenty of users over there will not buy another OLED. And we're not talking hours of constant fixed images, OLED pixel wear is cumulative so 15 mins of a logo every day for 6 days will have the same effect as a solid 90 min single sitting. Obviously there are other factors that play their part i.e. screen brightness settings and the main colours being displayed (red and yellows are the worst - the GMB logo is a panel killer). I also think the old panel lottery plays a part too. So I dont think every OLED is going to burn in super quick but I dont like it when people try to say that it's nothing to be mindful of.

You should hear/read some of the lengths people go to in an effort to babysit their OLEDs, like zooming in on news and sports channels so static content is not on screen. Absolute madness.

The bright side is that Irish consumer law is awesome and if you were to get a bad case of it inside an unreasonably short period, you'll easily win in the SCC on durability/fit for purpose grounds.