Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

MartyMcFly84 · 23-11-2020 11:43am

Ring rust is real and so is elite level cardio. These are probably the two biggest obstacles for Conor.

You can certainly make improvements to Cardio in 2 months but any half decent competitve amateur athlete knows it needs to be worked on year around and maintained. How much Conor has been doing the last couple of years will be very telling.

Timing is also something that needs to be maintained and honed. We saw after his long lay off prior to the Khabib fight, That Conors timing and precision was not there, and he was not at peak condition. He has had an even longer lay off this time around.

Depending on how much Conor can make up these two things in camp is anyones guess. Definitely on his day he can beat anyone in the lighter weight divisions. But its really what kind of shape he will arrive in which will be the key dictator in the fight imo.

yourdeadwright · 23-11-2020 12:17pm

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Ring rust is real and so is elite level cardio. These are probably the two biggest obstacles for Conor.

You can certainly make improvements to Cardio in 2 months but any half decent competitve amateur athlete knows it needs to be worked on year around and maintained. How much Conor has been doing the last couple of years will be very telling.

Timing is also something that needs to be maintained and honed. We saw after his long lay off prior to the Khabib fight, That Conors timing and precision was not there, and he was not at peak condition. He has had an even longer lay off this time around.

Depending on how much Conor can make up these two things in camp is anyones guess. Definitely on his day he can beat anyone in the lighter weight divisions. But its really what kind of shape he will arrive in which will be the key dictator in the fight imo.

I understand what your saying and of course its true,

Just one small thing its actually less time out this time around
Two years between MMA fights Alvarez & Khabib and 14 months between Mayweather and Khabib , This fight is 12 months after Cowboy

MartyMcFly84 · 23-11-2020 12:28pm

I understand what your saying and of course its true,

Just one small thing its actually less time out this time around
Two years between MMA fights Alvarez & Khabib and 14 months between Mayweather and Khabib , This fight is 12 months after Cowboy

You a right there, I actually forgot about the Donald Cerrone fight. It happened and was over very quickly then, then nothing again again for an extended period.

Thanks for the correction!

yourdeadwright · 23-11-2020 12:35pm

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

You a right there, I actually forgot about the Donald Cerrone fight. It happened and was over very quickly then, then nothing again again for an extended period.

Thanks for the correction!

To be fair he want the Justin & Ferguson fight but the UFC where holding out thinking Covid would pass as they didn't want to "waste " a Conor fight with no fans due to the money he makes them ,

That why he retired due to the frustration

By the sounds of thing he kept the foot on the pedal training wise for most of the year,

derfderf · 23-11-2020 12:45pm

News on Conor has been pretty tame this year, by his standards. If he's been itching to get back in the ring, I would say he's put some effort in. Not much else to do but train most of the year anyway.

Liamo_mu · 23-11-2020 5:09pm

Fight is now offical. What's important know is Dana stop his pipe dream of having Khabib back so soon and has a title fight ready to go for the winner of this fight.

Khabib is insisting again and again that he is retired so no need to hold up the division.

BigMo1 · 24-11-2020 5:49pm

Quite surprising Dana isn't making this for the 155 belt. No stand out contenders in the picture. Seems like the title on the line would be worth extra PPV buys to him which is usually all he cares about.

The Nal · 24-11-2020 6:00pm

BigMo1 wrote: »

Quite surprising Dana isn't making this for the 155 belt. No stand out contenders in the picture. Seems like the title on the line would be worth extra PPV buys to him which is usually all he cares about.

Khabib will fight the winner and retire.

dashoonage · 24-11-2020 6:35pm

The Nal wrote: »

Khabib will fight beat the winner and retire.

fixed that for ya.

ASOT · 24-11-2020 6:56pm

The Nal wrote: »

Khabib will fight the winner and retire.

He's said more than once now that he won't fight again. I'd be fairly confident he doesnt, no mater how much that clown Ali says he will.

GiftofGab · 24-11-2020 8:17pm

ASOT wrote: »

He's said more than once now that he won't fight again. I'd be fairly confident he doesnt, no mater how much that clown Ali says he will.

Khabib just put on his Instagram "see you soon Dana" with a picture of him and Dana White

JJayoo · 24-11-2020 8:53pm

GiftofGab wrote: »

Khabib just put on his Instagram "see you soon Dana" with a picture of him and Dana White

He's gonna batter Dana

The game always ends with the boss battle.

Gamb!t · 24-11-2020 9:14pm

JJayoo wrote: »

He's gonna batter Dana

The game always ends with the boss battle.

Maybe Dana owes him a few bob, fight of the night bonus

LollipopJimmy · 24-11-2020 9:49pm

GiftofGab wrote: »

Khabib just put on his Instagram "see you soon Dana" with a picture of him and Dana White

They're just going to a Starbucks

H8GHOTI · 24-11-2020 10:33pm

Khabib has beaten both of them already. Would he have any interest in fighting them again? McGregor maybe, because it’ll be a big story, big payday & he hates him, so might want to smesh him again. Poirier not a hope.

If he does go for 30-0, there seems to be a lot of talk about GSP.

Whelo79 · 24-11-2020 10:55pm

GiftofGab wrote: »

Khabib just put on his Instagram "see you soon Dana" with a picture of him and Dana White

Dana said in the presser on Saturday that he was due to meet with Khabib soon and have a chat with him to see what his plans are. I would imagine if they meet this week and Khabib reaffirms that he is retired then we will see McGregor v Poirier announced for the title.

Del Griffith · 24-11-2020 11:26pm

Any idea when the venue will be announced or if theres any chance of a decent time for this to be on (like UFC 254)?

The Ayatolla · 25-11-2020 12:41am

Fight Island

xtal191 · 25-11-2020 1:10am

BigMo1 wrote: »

Quite surprising Dana isn't making this for the 155 belt. No stand out contenders in the picture. Seems like the title on the line would be worth extra PPV buys to him which is usually all he cares about.

I'm sure it'll be announced as a title match at an upcoming ppv

eagle eye · 25-11-2020 1:25am

dashoonage wrote:

Khabib is retired

Fixed that for you.

Mellor · 25-11-2020 3:01am

ASOT wrote: »

He's said more than once now that he won't fight again. I'd be fairly confident he doesnt, no mater how much that clown Ali says he will.

Ali is just angling to keep the belt off Conor.

Del Griffith wrote: »

Any idea when the venue will be announced or if theres any chance of a decent time for this to be on (like UFC 254)?

It's been announced for fight Island.

fitzparker · 25-11-2020 11:00am

Not officially has it?

Kavanagh will be delighted Conor is back, he can get a few new UFC t-shirts, the chap lives in the free gear

yourdeadwright · 25-11-2020 11:53am

Mellor wrote: »

Ali is just angling to keep the belt off Conor.

It's been announced for fight Island.

Stevie Wonder could see what Ali's up to ,

Khabib will not give up the belt before Conor v Dustin ,
Then the winner will have the fight Justin for the belt who you guessed it is manged by none other than Ali,

I think Ali fears that if Conor beats Dustin for the belt he would out of spite swerve Justin because of his connection to Ali and look to fight Ferguson or do something else which would hold up Justin going for it ,

Doff · 25-11-2020 1:16pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Stevie Wonder could see what Ali's up to ,

Khabib will not give up the belt before Conor v Dustin ,
Then the winner will have the fight Justin for the belt who you guessed it is manged by none other than Ali,

I think Ali fears that if Conor beats Dustin for the belt he would out of spite swerve Justin because of his connection to Ali and look to fight Ferguson or do something else which would hold up Justin going for it ,

I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I think its absolutely this. Ali keeps his clients involved in the belt fights for as long as possible to create more revenue for himself.

GiftofGab · 25-11-2020 1:25pm

Del Griffith wrote: »

Any idea when the venue will be announced or if theres any chance of a decent time for this to be on (like UFC 254)?

Don't think it will be at a decent hour. They only did that to accommodate Khabib as he has a big following in the middle east and russian. Plus PPV sales were way down for that so doubt it will happen again.

The Nal · 25-11-2020 1:36pm

Can guarantee 100% that fight will be on at 5am Irish time. Dana isnt wasting a McGregor PPV

LollipopJimmy · 25-11-2020 1:45pm

BT Sports listing it as a PPV too as expected.

yourdeadwright · 25-11-2020 4:10pm

Doff wrote: »

I'm not one for conspiracy theories but I think its absolutely this. Ali keeps his clients involved in the belt fights for as long as possible to create more revenue for himself.

It just makes sense for Ali to do what is best for himself and his clients ,
Of course he is going to want Justin to be the next champ

People might say but sure he will have to fight the winner of Conor v Dustin anyway but Ali knows if Conor picks up the belt against Dustin he would all of a sudden hold all the cards and be able to make demands going into a Justin fight, Much easier for Dustin and Ali if its for a vacant belt,

Technically Khabib has a year to fight or vacate but as soon as Justin is signed to fight the winner of Conor v Dustin you can bet any money Khabib will vacate ,

GiftofGab · 25-11-2020 4:15pm

Well it makes sense for the winner to fight Dustin for the belt. Khabib beat all 3 so let all 3 fight it out for the vacant belt. Dustin can't fight so soon so he'll fight the winner.

sonofenoch · 25-11-2020 6:38pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Stevie Wonder could see what Ali's up to ,

Khabib will not give up the belt before Conor v Dustin ,
Then the winner will have the fight Justin for the belt who you guessed it is manged by none other than Ali,

I think Ali fears that if Conor beats Dustin for the belt he would out of spite swerve Justin because of his connection to Ali and look to fight Ferguson or do something else which would hold up Justin going for it ,

Why would either of them get the 155 belt if this fight is at 170

H8GHOTI · 25-11-2020 7:15pm

They are fighting at 155

sonofenoch · 25-11-2020 7:20pm

H8GHOTI wrote: »

They are fighting at 155

When did that change ? all the talk was it was at 170

Tazzimus · 25-11-2020 7:50pm

sonofenoch wrote: »

When did that change ? all the talk was it was at 170

When the UFC got involved.

H8GHOTI · 25-11-2020 9:19pm

sonofenoch wrote: »

When did that change ? all the talk was it was at 170

Weeks ago. Around the time of the Khabib fight. Dana said he was against it from the start. Then when Khabib retired, I guess Conor thought he has a chance of the belt so agreed to 155, instead of sticking his heels in.

derfderf · 26-11-2020 1:10am

GiftofGab wrote: »

Don't think it will be at a decent hour. They only did that to accommodate Khabib as he has a big following in the middle east and russian. Plus PPV sales were way down for that so doubt it will happen again.

Yeah, no way the UFC will change it so Irish and English can pirate it at a better time.

Mellor · 26-11-2020 3:06am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

It just makes sense for Ali to do what is best for himself and his clients ,
Of course he is going to want Justin to be the next champ

Sure, he has an obligation to his clients. But there's a difference between doing your duty and willing misleading to line your pockets.

I'm sure Ali would rather Khabib doesn't retire.

People might say but sure he will have to fight the winner of Conor v Dustin anyway but Ali knows if Conor picks up the belt against Dustin he would all of a sudden hold all the cards and be able to make demands going into a Justin fight, Much easier for Dustin and Ali if its for a vacant belt,

Technically Khabib has a year to fight or vacate but as soon as Justin is signed to fight the winner of Conor v Dustin you can bet any money Khabib will vacate ,

There is no rule about it being a year. He can be stripped today if they wanted. Or they could let him hold it for longer.

With ambiguity over Khabib continuing. This is one situation where an interim makes sense.

GiftofGab wrote: »

Well it makes sense for the winner to fight Dustin for the belt. Khabib beat all 3 so let all 3 fight it out for the vacant belt. Dustin can't fight so soon so he'll fight the winner.

Dustin fights the winner of what?

H8GHOTI · 26-11-2020 9:38am

Mellor wrote: »

...
Dustin fights the winner of what?

I think that’s meant to say Justin.
Winner of McGregor v Poirier fights Gaethje for the title.

derfderf · 26-11-2020 10:08am

H8GHOTI wrote: »

I think that’s meant to say Justin.
Winner of McGregor v Poirier fights Gaethje for the title.

All three lost to Khabib, Justin most recently. Why would Justin get a pass to the final?

The Nal · 26-11-2020 10:32am

derfderf wrote: »

All three lost to Khabib, Justin most recently. Why would Justin get a pass to the final?

At least the other two put up a fight. Justin was steamrolled.

Liamo_mu · 26-11-2020 10:33am

Gaethje doesn't deserve two title shots in a row though tbh. At least Porier has fought and won since his loss to Khabib.

H8GHOTI · 26-11-2020 10:38am

derfderf wrote: »

All three lost to Khabib, Justin most recently. Why would Justin get a pass to the final?

That’s not my opinion, just clarifying what I think another poster meant to say.

derfderf · 26-11-2020 11:09am

The Nal wrote: »

At least the other two put up a fight. Justin was steamrolled.

In fairness, he took the first round on the judges scorecards. Dustin was dominated from start to finish, hail mary guillotine attempt aside.

I wouldn't have Justin as any less worthy than the other two, besides being the most recent challenger, but he's definitely not ahead of them.

derfderf · 26-11-2020 11:10am

H8GHOTI wrote: »

That’s not my opinion, just clarifying what I think another poster meant to say.

Ahh, sorry. Diving in and out of the thread makes you lose track of the conversation.

Doff · 26-11-2020 5:48pm

Dustin almost had that guillotine if he just held on a few seconds longer!

.......

The White Feather · 27-11-2020 2:57pm

The Superfight that no one wants to see

I had never hear of this guy until now

https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1331780211868839941?s=20

LollipopJimmy · 27-11-2020 2:58pm

The White Feather wrote: »

The Superfight that no one wants to see

I had never hear of this guy until now

https://twitter.com/CBSSportsHQ/status/1331780211868839941?s=20

Any promoter that allowed that fella fight a career professional fighter should be lynched

eagle eye · 27-11-2020 3:01pm

LollipopJimmy wrote:

Any promoter that allowed that fella fight a career professional fighter should be lynched

I never heard of him before.

LollipopJimmy · 27-11-2020 3:12pm

eagle eye wrote: »

I never heard of him before.

Lucky you. He's a 'YouTuber' and fought another youtuber and I think he actually lost that fight too

eagle eye · 27-11-2020 3:38pm

LollipopJimmy wrote:

Lucky you. He's a 'YouTuber' and fought another youtuber and I think he actually lost that fight too

I don't follow any YouTubers. I have to listen to enough stupid people in real life to go searching for more on YouTube.

US2 · 27-11-2020 4:00pm

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Lucky you. He's a 'YouTuber' and fought another youtuber and I think he actually lost that fight too

Eddie Hearn had them main event on an event with professional boxers on the undercard.

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