Timber

woodturner · 28-04-2014 9:36am

kadman wrote: »

Try Lisnavagh Timber, Rathvilly , if my memory serves me well

Thanks Tim. I actually have a friend who works there and they have exactly what I want.

kadman · 02-05-2014 9:22am

woodturner wrote: »

Thanks Tim. I actually have a friend who works there and they have exactly what I want.

Donedeal has an add for Elm Planks in Mullingar.

I was in there during the week looking at 3" planks.I,m sure there was quarter sawn planks there. 40 euro a cubic foot for 3"

jfh · 29-06-2014 10:06pm

hi,
i've a few beech trees that fell over in the storm, feel it's a shame just to cut up for firewood. some of them have lovely grain, they'd be well over 100 years.
is they any way i could get them cut up for building a house down the line?

sbkenn · 29-06-2014 11:28pm

I empathise with you. It brings tears to my eyes to see big broadleaf trees being chopped up. I suggest that you jack them off the ground (to prevent rot) and let them season (dry out) before sawing. There are a few mobile sawmills around to cut them when that time comes. You might enquire with the manufacturers of "woodmiser" kits to find out who has one in Ireland.

jfh · 30-06-2014 7:44am

thanks sbkenn. hate to burn them.
would i have to put them to dry out?

sbkenn · 30-06-2014 12:39pm

Dry out .... sslloowwllyy or "shakes" (lengthways splitting) will occur as the outer layers dry too quickly.. Best in the shade, but not indoors. It is the sap that needs to dry. Chock the logs so that they don't sag in the middle.

fro66 · 10-07-2014 4:07pm

Does anyone know where I could source 3" x 3" beams of seasoned oak or walnut suitable for table legs? Any help appreciated.

calum22 · 21-07-2014 11:49am

How long do you think it would take to dry out sbkenn?

Seve OB · 28-07-2014 4:02pm

I'm looking to find the best (cheapest) place to buy some plywood for drawer bases in Dublin. I will need 2 full sheets 2440*1220 to do 6 large drawers, a bonus if they cut, as I only have a car roof rack to transport. Is B&Q the handiest?

DeleteSystem32 · 24-08-2014 3:12pm

Im looking for a sheet of rough cut timber, the rustic looking sheets for a desk top. preferable something with a sort of an L shape to it but anything would do. Anybody have any idea where i could source it?

p_oneill · 13-09-2014 9:35am

DeleteSystem32 wrote: »

Im looking for a sheet of rough cut timber, the rustic looking sheets for a desk top. preferable something with a sort of an L shape to it but anything would do. Anybody have any idea where i could source it?

If you're near Wicklow I know a guy.

full gas · 14-09-2014 8:20am

I am looking for plywood suitable for building kitchen units with the edging exposed, I've checked out the hardwood through ply from brooks and it wasn't what I had in mind, if anyone has any suggestions that would be great thanks in advance, also I am based in cork

knickerbocker · 14-09-2014 12:29pm

I don't know Cork (re:providers), but there is a McMahons in Water St., they do Birch plywood at approx. €60 for an 18mm sheet.

DeleteSystem32 · 15-09-2014 4:36pm

p_oneill wrote: »

If you're near Wicklow I know a guy.

Im not far from wicklow im based in dublin but i have transport. Where abouts in wicklow are we talking?

Prenderb · 15-09-2014 7:06pm

Mixed up Cork/Wicklow part of the thread, sorry!

p_oneill · 16-09-2014 8:52am

DeleteSystem32 wrote: »

Im not far from wicklow im based in dublin but i have transport. Where abouts in wicklow are we talking?

He's in Glenealy, I can PM you a number and if you ring him and tell him what you're after he usually has something similar in stock.

jaredGalen · 28-09-2014 8:33pm

A few old apple trees fell during the storm at my Dad's house. They were 60+ years old I reckon.
They are still alive but I'll be removing them before the spring for firewood as they are on their sides.

My Dad said to see if it is timber that would be in demand for wood turning etc.
Is it? Anyone interested? One is shown in the image below.

woodturner · 30-09-2014 10:20pm

Hi Jared. Where are you based?

jaredGalen · 01-10-2014 7:57am

woodturner wrote: »

Hi Jared. Where are you based?

Hi woodturner.
We're based in county limerick, in the kilmallock area.

jimfinoc · 15-10-2014 4:16pm

I have plans for a small wine rack. I'm new to timber so any advice on the type of timber I should use. I was thinking redwood and live near Sligo.

DeVore · 24-10-2014 2:19pm

jaredGalen wrote: »

Hi woodturner.
We're based in county limerick, in the kilmallock area.

I'd love to turn some apple bowls and vases but I'm in Dublin and have no transport. If you DO get this cut up or if anyone is going to do something with it, please let me know and I'll help as best I can (costs, organisation etc). If you want, I'll make something from it for your dad/family too

Alun · 24-10-2014 3:27pm

Beware ... apple, and fruit woods in general, are notorious for splitting.

MyNameIsMethos · 22-06-2015 11:44am

Well lads! I'm relatively new to woodcrafting&am trying to source an odd scrap here or there for the purpose of jewellery making. Anyone have a lead on some hazel?

..Brian.. · 07-07-2015 1:34am

Hi Guys, just trying g to get my head around the price of timber in €/ft3.

So if a piece of timber is listed at €35/ft3 and I have a piece that's 2" x 4" x 8' say that's gonna cost €186 euro?! That can't be right!

I'm working it out as 2" x 4" = 8. 8 x 8' = 64. 64/12 = 5.333

So an 8' 2x4 is 5.33ft3. Multiply that by €35 = €186?

magicbastarder · 07-07-2015 9:40am

if i read your calculation right, you're assuming 12 cubic inches in a cubic foot (and you're mixing inches and feet) - there are 1,728 cubic inches in a cubic foot.

another way of calculating it is 1/6 ft x 1/3 ft x 8, i.e. less than half a cubic foot.

dathi · 07-07-2015 11:36am

..Brian.. wrote: »

Hi Guys, just trying g to get my head around the price of timber in €/ft3.

So if a piece of timber is listed at €35/ft3 and I have a piece that's 2" x 4" x 8' say that's gonna cost €186 euro?! That can't be right!

I'm working it out as 2" x 4" = 8. 8 x 8' = 64. 64/12 = 5.333

So an 8' 2x4 is 5.33ft3. Multiply that by €35 = €186?

you are mixing feet and inches in your sums
2x4 x96(8feetx12) =768
cubic foot =12x12x12=1728 inches cubed
768 /1728 =0.44 cubic feet
£35x0.44 =£15.40

sbkenn · 07-07-2015 12:12pm

..Brian.. wrote: »

Hi Guys, just trying g to get my head around the price of timber in €/ft3.

So if a piece of timber is listed at €35/ft3 and I have a piece that's 2" x 4" x 8' say that's gonna cost €186 euro?! That can't be right!

I'm working it out as 2" x 4" = 8. 8 x 8' = 64. 64/12 = 5.333

So an 8' 2x4 is 5.33ft3. Multiply that by €35 = €186?

Err, NO. Did you do maths at school ?
there are 12 x 12 x 12 (=1728) cubic inches in a cubic foot !
2" x 4" x 96"(8ft)/1728 = 0.44ft^3
or 2 x 4 X 8 -> 64/144 (as it is only 2 dimensions that are in inches)

..Brian.. · 07-07-2015 12:50pm

Thanks guys, that makes more sense. I had Googled it and someone posted a formula of multiply everything and divide by 12 which is what I was doing!

Edit: is a "board foot" different from a cubic foot? Maybe I was mixing the two up.

dathi · 07-07-2015 9:53pm

..Brian.. wrote: »

Thanks guys, that makes more sense. I had Googled it and someone posted a formula of multiply everything and divide by 12 which is what I was doing!

Edit: is a "board foot" different from a cubic foot? Maybe I was mixing the two up.

a board foot is one square foot one inch thick ie. 12x 12 by 1 inch thick it an american measurement. cubic foot. is one square foot ,one foot thick ie 12x12x12

Prenderb · 07-07-2015 11:08pm

I still like timber.

tabby aspreme · 08-07-2015 8:22am

MyNameIsMethos wrote: »

Well lads! I'm relatively new to woodcrafting&am trying to source an odd scrap here or there for the purpose of jewellery making. Anyone have a lead on some hazel?

Is it branch wood you need with the bark on , or larger pieces, what part of the country are you in

peter05 · 14-08-2015 4:26pm

Anybody have a good source for 150mm x 150mm (above 12ft ideally) beams or something close to it.

Most am coming up with is 150mm x 75mm.

Best
Peter

sbkenn · 14-08-2015 6:15pm

Is fabricating an "I" beam an option ? Slot pairs of 75 x 30, and glue in 9mm ply.
Makes a very stiff structure with less timber.

kadman · 15-08-2015 6:06pm

Yes its a perfect solution, and can be bought from reputable truss and floor beam manufacturers in timberframe.
You would need an engineers input on the timber design sections, or calculations with the appropriate software design programme such as Sema.

kadman

sbkenn · 15-08-2015 9:43pm

I am sure that there are some online calculators. Depending on where it is going, you could probably guestimate. When I was researching for my application, I found that there had been some tests done for a London project where they wanted a 30ft span.

Nisio · 02-09-2015 10:20pm

Hi,

I'm looking to build a kayak and the plans call for 1x0.75 inch and 1.5x0.75 inch lengths western red cedar (16 feet lenghts)

Does anyone know if this is available in Ireland ?

Thanks,

Oisín

sbkenn · 02-09-2015 10:34pm

Try Abbey Woods in Baldoyle. Failing that, Murdocks Hardwood in Newry. Either way, they will probably only have planks. I will be getting some Yellow pine from Murdocks soon, and may be able to spare a bit if that is of interest. Y.P. is a fairly dense, straight grained and knot free wood.

kadman · 03-09-2015 7:21pm

sbkenn wrote: »

Try Abbey Woods in Baldoyle. Failing that, Murdocks Hardwood in Newry. Either way, they will probably only have planks. I will be getting some Yellow pine from Murdocks soon, and may be able to spare a bit if that is of interest. Y.P. is a fairly dense, straight grained and knot free wood.

But its not as durable as western red cedar.........

sbkenn · 03-09-2015 10:38pm

depends on how you want to use the kayak, or rather, how you want to store it. Red Cedar (Sequoia) has it's own, very effective preservative, but a major saturation with Linseed Oil is quite effectivetoo. If the whole boat is going to be wood, get the oil from a farm suppliers ... it is far cheaper.

Nisio · 11-09-2015 7:57am

Thanks for the advice sbkenn and kadman.

I'm hoping to build a skin on frame kayak so the timber is internal gunnels, stringers etc. covered by a painted skin.

A few places seem to be able to get planks and some of those might be able to machine it to the dimensions in the plans. It's a bit more awkward than the youtube videos where the guy in the US walks into his local diy and walks out with 16 feet lengths clear vertical grain red cedar!

Bogwoppit · 11-09-2015 8:16am

Nisio wrote: »

Thanks for the advice sbkenn and kadman.

I'm hoping to build a skin on frame kayak so the timber is internal gunnels, stringers etc. covered by a painted skin.

A few places seem to be able to get planks and some of those might be able to machine it to the dimensions in the plans. It's a bit more awkward than the youtube videos where the guy in the US walks into his local diy and walks out with 16 feet lengths clear vertical grain red cedar!

I just came on here to ask a similar question, planning on doing a SOF myself too.
Looking at the yost sea tour 15exp.
WRC is coming out quite pricey so I was looking for an alternative myself.

You could try Declan Byrne and sons Ltd.

fergal.b · 11-09-2015 8:48am

As said above abbeywoods do sell it but if you want a cheeper wood norwegian spruce or Douglas fir would also work and if needed you could give them a coat of epoxy resin to seal them. I have gotten 20 foot planks supplied and cut to size by http://www.mcnallyjoinery.ie/ very nice and helpful to deal with.

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Nisio wrote: »

Thanks for the advice sbkenn and kadman.

I'm hoping to build a skin on frame kayak so the timber is internal gunnels, stringers etc. covered by a painted skin.

A few places seem to be able to get planks and some of those might be able to machine it to the dimensions in the plans. It's a bit more awkward than the youtube videos where the guy in the US walks into his local diy and walks out with 16 feet lengths clear vertical grain red cedar!

Nisio · 11-09-2015 10:14am

Bogwoppit wrote:

I just came on here to ask a similar question, planning on doing a SOF myself too. Looking at the yost sea tour 15exp. WRC is coming out quite pricey so I was looking for an alternative myself.

what timber do you think you'll end up using?

The plans I got (a Dave Gentry plan for a Disko Bay sea kayak ) listed a few different choices: Douglas fir, spruce, cypress, redwood

Bogwoppit · 11-09-2015 11:43am

Nisio wrote: »

what timber do you think you'll end up using?

The plans I got (a Dave Gentry plan for a Disko Bay sea kayak ) listed a few different choices: Douglas fir, spruce, cypress, redwood

I'll have to price them all up before I decide.
I've been looking at the Douglas fir, it's heavier and stronger than the cedar so you can reduce the dimensions by about 25% ie. A 1"x3/4" gunwale could be reduced to 3/4"x5/8" or 3/4"X1/2"

Nisio · 14-09-2015 5:01pm

Bogwoppit wrote:

I'll have to price them all up before I decide. I've been looking at the Douglas fir, it's heavier and stronger than the cedar so you can reduce the dimensions by about 25% ie. A 1"x3/4" gunwale could be reduced to 3/4"x5/8" or 3/4"X1/2"

Some quotes have Douglas fir the same price as cedar, spruce was suggested at a much lower price

Bogwoppit · 22-09-2015 4:20pm

Nisio wrote: »

Some quotes have Douglas fir the same price as cedar, spruce was suggested at a much lower price

I don't know if spruce will do the job, I doubt it but have a search on the Internet and see.
Woodenboats forum is a good place to check but I'm sure you'll find more.
I'm trying to source some fir through a friend so hopefully it will work out alright cost wise for me.

I was also thinking about trying Dave gentry's stand up paddle board for the wife, looks fairly easy.

Nisio · 23-09-2015 11:56am

The spruce grade is swedish fifth grade which looks like it'd have a lot of knots from what the Internet suggests

Bogwoppit wrote:

I don't know if spruce will do the job, I doubt it but have a search on the Internet and see. Woodenboats forum is a good place to check but I'm sure you'll find more. I'm trying to source some fir through a friend so hopefully it will work out alright cost wise for me.

Nisio · 23-09-2015 12:01pm

The spruce grade is swedish fifth grade which looks like it'd have a lot of knots from what the Internet suggests

Bogwoppit wrote:

I don't know if spruce will do the job, I doubt it but have a search on the Internet and see. Woodenboats forum is a good place to check but I'm sure you'll find more. I'm trying to source some fir through a friend so hopefully it will work out alright cost wise for me.

Bogwoppit · 23-09-2015 12:58pm

Nisio wrote: »

The spruce grade is swedish fifth grade which looks like it'd have a lot of knots from what the Internet suggests

I've had a quick look myself and spruce would probably do the job alright, it will have to be a good grade though as knots will kill your strength straight away.

Perhaps we should start a separate thread for this.

Bogwoppit · 25-09-2015 10:39am

Bogwoppit wrote: »

I've had a quick look myself and spruce would probably do the job alright, it will have to be a good grade though as knots will kill your strength straight away.

Perhaps we should start a separate thread for this.

Have you priced up ash as an option?

Hadn't really thought of it myself but just had a search there now and it seems to be used a lot.

Should be no shortage of it here either.

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