Unpopular places to go on holidays

orourkeda1977 · 21-04-2019 7:18pm

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

Never been. Even when I lived up t'north. It's got a horrid reputation.

Not difficult to see why. It's a real dog turd

ancapailldorcha · 21-04-2019 7:23pm

cannotlogin wrote: »

Maybe it was just me.

I hated it, the pier itself is a nice walk but that's where it ends.

It's very poor, very run down, pie shops, chippers and cheap amusements.

Very tacky, pubs very rough, numerous fights, men & women, drug dealing is very public, very chavtastic and I've probably never seen as much public oral sex before or since.

It was years ago and might have improved since but I wouldn't go back if you paid me.

A lot of English seaside towns are quite dodgy sadly. That makes sense.

21-04-2019 7:29pm

yagan wrote: »

As others have said Cambodia was actually great. I think spent nearly two weeks in Siem Riep just exploring the temples of Angkor.

Phnom Penh was seedy, stayed a few days and got out but we really enjoyed chilling at the beach in sihanoukville as it didn't have hawkers and pimps like in Thailand.

Myanmar was a real headreck though. Beautiful and friendly but so sad too. I'd call it a challenging destination, lots to see that will you'll be thinking about for the rest of your life.

I adored Myanmar, went on a TD trip with a lovely guide throughout. Stayed in superb hotels with great varied food and breakfasts. The country produces amazing baked beans. Of course, knowing now what was happening in parts of the country is so sad. For a seriously third world country it is surprisingly tidy. I had to laugh at one of the internal airline online brochures that they were trying to improve their safety record by re recruiting women to train as pilots! So sexist, why not actually *train* all their pilots in the first place. There had been one instance, a non fatal crash in Bagan (very short runway) where the captain did not realise it was his copilot’s very first attempt to land anything bigger than a Cessna, in other words he knew little more about flying than some of his passengers. If I remember right he had never even been on board an ATR in his life before!

Mister Vain · 21-04-2019 7:39pm

Krakow has a torture chamber next to a brothel. I'm not joking.

Nigel Fairservice · 21-04-2019 8:21pm

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Plenty of fantastic countries and cities that are not commonly on people's itineries without going to an active conflict zone, depends what you're looking for op.

If you're heading west check out Montevideo or maybe Havana. East, check out Ulaanbaatar or China (not Hong Kong or Macau if you're looking for somewhere less travelled to). Closer to home try the Balkans (non coastal nations like Bosnia, Serbia or Macedonia) or Belarus where visa regulations were relaxed a few years ago to encourage tourism

I'm not long back from Skopje, Macedonia. It's well worth a day. They have some mad modern Greek style buildings they've built there in the last few years (I believe they are/were in dispute with Greece about some points of history). They buildings house the ministry of foreign affairs and a flash museum but the buildings feel a bit like Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas....pretty fake. The Turkish bazaar in town was great to wander around. Had some great Turkish coffee and one of the nicest deserts I've ever had. Think it was called trilece. The place was very cheap. Lunch for 2 was about €10.

The most unusual place I've probably been was Anchorage. It kind of had a frontier feel to it, like you were on the edge of the civilization.

wakka12 · 21-04-2019 9:18pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I know I'll get slated for this but Berlin is the most depressing place I have ever visited.

Mustnt have visited an awful lot of places, and I didnt think Berlin was particularly a nice place either

iamwhoiam · 21-04-2019 9:22pm

wakka12 wrote: »

Mustnt have visited an awful lot of places, and I didnt think Berlin was particularly a nice place either

Berlin is amazing . The Museum Insel is fascinating , Grunewald forest and Spreewald are wonderful and the sights and history is fantastic .
Schloss Charlotten Burg , Reichstag, Spandau , take a trip on the Spree
You need time to see it all and take it in and wander the street steeped in history

lawred2 · 21-04-2019 9:26pm

PhoenixParker wrote: »

Holyhead has to get a mention.

Following that theme - it has a bedfellow in Larne

21-04-2019 9:30pm

Ash.J.Williams wrote: »

albania looks interesting

Albania is great, few UNESCO towns, coastline is beautiful & it's dirt cheap.
Also, Macedonia or fyrom or whatever they call it now. Great scenery, very different, & cheap.

ancapailldorcha · 21-04-2019 9:32pm

bubblypop wrote: »

Albania is great, few UNESCO towns, coastline is beautiful & it's dirt cheap.
Also, Macedonia or fyrom or whatever they call it now. Great scenery, very different, & cheap.

I've been to Macedonia. Great wee spot. Big coffee place and Skopje has a great town centre with loads of great bars and coffee places.

21-04-2019 9:41pm

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

I'm not long back from Skopje, Macedonia. It's well worth a day.

one of the nicest deserts I've ever had. Think it was called trilece. .

OMG, I lived for 18 months in the Balkans, I would kill for trilece cake right now! Mouth is watering. Beautiful, & I am not a desert person.
Skopje is great, unusual, but great. Also, about an hour away is ochra lake, on the border with Albania, beautiful lake & ochra town is lovely. There is a valley outside Skopje with a river, you can hire a boat & sail into caves for very very little money. Also, you can go to the coast in Greece in two hours.
Highly recommended.

mvl · 21-04-2019 10:03pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

It's effectively Romania only much less affluent

this is wrong, looking at Moldova's demographics: separate countries with separate ethos imo.

21-04-2019 10:13pm

I'm not working for Bord Fáilte here but given the 'unpopular' word in the thread title has anybody actually considered holidaying in... their locality for even one holiday? I guarantee you that if you look closely you won't be bored.

It's actually great. The local council in my area has a superb heritage season all summer like this where historic sites, parks, houses, cemeteries, castles, monasteries, mills, etc have guided tours and there are guided walks around the place. It was really an eyeopener to places I pass by on a quotidian basis.

Spend one (or two) of the wet summer days in the local history section of your local library - it's a lovely, peaceful break from the world and you're discovering new things. On the noticeboard there you'll probably come across some interesting cultural/musical/educational/health event on that week that you could take yourself off to. I've a much deeper awareness of how my local area developed over the centuries now. I'm googling everything as I go and finding out loads of new history and making links about this area I had never made. You see a lot more when you know a lot more, if that makes sense.

If you've kids, you have tons of places you've never been to - parks, open farms, beaches or whatever to bring them on adventures - and it's much easier than hauling 10 million bags around some roasting hot country. You could even plan some spontaneous last minute midweek overnight stay if you're getting bored. Or save money and camp overnight next to somewhere with the sound of water running all night.

If you make a point of going to gardens, on river walks (where you'll soon build up enough knowledge to start noticing old mills and evidence of various fishing types over the centuries) and finding some unusual world/trad/baroque/classical/gregorian chant concerts in some old acoustically gorgeous stone building or church you've never been to - Eventbrite seems to be a good resource nowadays for that - you can make a really lovely, memorable break at home, as unpopular as that might be.

21-04-2019 10:45pm

Nigel Fairservice wrote: »

I'm not long back from Skopje, Macedonia. It's well worth a day. They have some mad modern Greek style buildings they've built there in the last few years (I believe they are/were in dispute with Greece about some points of history). They buildings house the ministry of foreign affairs and a flash museum but the buildings feel a bit like Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas....pretty fake. The Turkish bazaar in town was great to wander around. Had some great Turkish coffee and one of the nicest deserts I've ever had. Think it was called trilece. The place was very cheap. Lunch for 2 was about €10.

The most unusual place I've probably been was Anchorage. It kind of had a frontier feel to it, like you were on the edge of the civilization.

Skopje on my long bucket list! A lot of the Balkans noted for hipster food. The thing is they kind of kept doing what they have always done, but it’s become very hip now. Food from a particular organic farm on the menu... in a hotel I stayed in Gurana, Albania, all the produce is from their organic farm not far outside the city. The meat, the eggs, the cheese, the vegetables, salad, the home-baked bread, the preserves. They kind of expect you to eat what’s been delivered down from the farm that day. They keep some poultry by the hotel entrance.

They seem to have an obsession with pharmacies in Tirana. It’s the area in the world where the science of pharmacies began, in Dubrovnik not to far away. There are spanking clean chemist shops everywhere, in a city full of dangerous potholes, especially on the pavements. There’s plenty of mafia type stuff there (most recently a robbery of an plane at the airport), but a tourist is very safe walking the streets. People are well dressed in this poor country, and seem to live in decent housing/apartments, and second-hand books are hugely in demand. It’s an interesting country as regards religion. Muslims are in the majority, but I saw not one woman wear the head dress, and it seems that the wealth there lies in Christianity with the opulent modern Catholic and Orthodox churches.

21-04-2019 10:48pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm not working for Bord Fáilte here but given the 'unpopular' word in the thread title has anybody actually considered holidaying in... their locality for even one holiday? I guarantee you that if you look closely you won't be bored.

It's actually great. The local council in my area has a superb heritage season all summer like this where historic sites, parks, houses, cemeteries, castles, monasteries, mills, etc have guided tours and there are guided walks around the place. It was really an eyeopener to places I pass by on a quotidian basis.

Spend one (or two) of the wet summer days in the local history section of your local library - it's a lovely, peaceful break from the world and you're discovering new things. On the noticeboard there you'll probably come across some interesting cultural/musical/educational/health event on that week that you could take yourself off to. I've a much deeper awareness of how my local area developed over the centuries now. I'm googling everything as I go and finding out loads of new history and making links about this area I had never made. You see a lot more when you know a lot more, if that makes sense.

If you've kids, you have tons of places you've never been to - parks, open farms, beaches or whatever to bring them on adventures - and it's much easier than hauling 10 million bags around some roasting hot country. You could even plan some spontaneous last minute midweek overnight stay if you're getting bored. Or save money and camp overnight next to somewhere with the sound of water running all night.

If you make a point of going to gardens, on river walks (where you'll soon build up enough knowledge to start noticing old mills and evidence of various fishing types over the centuries) and finding some unusual world/trad/baroque/classical/gregorian chant concerts in some old acoustically gorgeous stone building or church you've never been to - Eventbrite seems to be a good resource nowadays for that - you can make a really lovely, memorable break at home, as unpopular as that might be.

The Barrow Valley /Carlow etc is a most interesting area for exploring all the above. Lots to see, old mills by the river, events etc.

21-04-2019 10:55pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The Barrow Valley /Carlow etc is a most interesting area for exploring all the above. Lots to see, old mills by the river, events etc.

There was a great Abhainn documentary on RTÉ featuring it in 2013, with stunning aerial images. Very well worth watching. Actually this seems to be it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaExsF89jsE

21-04-2019 10:57pm

After I did my Leaving Cert in 1978, my mother brought me to Opatija in Croatia (then Yugoslavia) which was the most beautiful seaside place I’ve e we been since. It was my first ever trip abroad (apart from England/Wales) and my mother’s first trip abroad after marrying my father, who was delighted to have the peace of the house go himself! Times were relatively simple with so little spare money and huge air fares.

I think the fact that I didn’t get going to many places when young has made me absolutely delight in traveling now to the great and unusual in a world where so many still throng to the resorts of the masses.

21-04-2019 11:41pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

They seem to have an obsession with pharmacies in Tirana. It’s the area in the world where the science of pharmacies began,

Muslims are in the majority, but I saw not one woman wear the head dress, and it seems that the wealth there lies in Christianity with the opulent modern Catholic and Orthodox churches.

And you don't need a prescription for anything, if you know what you want, just go in & buy it & it is dirt cheap.
I keep telling people I lived in a Muslim country & they don't believe that it is westernised. I lived In the Balkans for 18 months & seen far less women in burkas then I do in Dublin.

iamwhoiam · 21-04-2019 11:49pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

After I did my Leaving Cert in 1978, my mother brought me to Opatija in Croatia (then Yugoslavia) which was the most beautiful seaside place I’ve e we been since. It was my first ever trip abroad (apart from England/Wales) and my mother’s first trip abroad after marrying my father, who was delighted to have the peace of the house go himself! Times were relatively simple with so little spare money and huge air fares.

I think the fact that I didn’t get going to many places when young has made me absolutely delight in traveling now to the great and unusual in a world where so many still throng to the resorts of the masses.

We stayed in Rabac a few years ago and travelled the Istrian peninsula . A truely stunning part of this world and a wonderful holiday

Das Reich · 22-04-2019 12:06am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I’ve been to Albania & Serbia (you should see the enormous house you get for 80K), where good organic food takes pride of place.

In 80s I went to Faroe Islands where hotel standards were minimal, and I believe the decor exact same from the websites! In 2020 I went to beautiful Greenland, where I enjoyed fabulous sunshine. Ditto in Svalbard.

Antarctica was the most gobsmacking place I’ve ever seen. I swam there on 2C water. The air is absolutely crystal clear, but the stench of dead animals (nature, no disaster) and penguin dung on the shores is revolting!

Am doing the Scottish Islands bit by bit over the years. Have a great fondness for Orkney and it’s megalithic sited.

80 K in Albania or Serbia for a good house? Wayyy less than that. For 80 K you get a good house in Italy. I bought a good apartment there near Milan for nealy half of that price. In the south you can get one near the beach for less than 20.000 (https://www.idealista.it/immobile/16692367/). In Albania or Serbia you can buy a town for 80 K, if someone did offer you something for that price they were probably taking advantage becaude you a foreigner.

22-04-2019 1:27am

I wouldn't buy a house in Serbia if they gave me 50000!

Ten of Swords · 22-04-2019 2:11am

Mad_maxx wrote: »

You mean other than those many counties with no coastline at all?

Yes, clearly I do!

22-04-2019 6:36pm

I’m quite random in the fashion I choose trips. The yearn to book a break away comes upon me, I might go to, eg, Ryanair website, put in to and from dates and cycle through the destinations on offer just to see what might be affordable. I might then just click and book wherever I hit upon!

Other times I might use an online travel agency (I find gohop has a terrific human backup service) and looking around Google Earth fairly randomly, might try booking a destination I hit upon. Once, whilst. Pining over the Indian Ocean I came upon Réunion Island, and a bit of googling informed me it was actually a very remote part of France. I made and booking and travelled to this safe tropical island where I could spend my euro and drink the tap water. What I loved best was taking to the air in both a helicopter and microlight, flying through the most spectacular volcanic landscapes, rather like a French Hawaii.

smurfjed · 22-04-2019 6:53pm

You could try this place.....

Its in Saudi Arabia

Mad_maxx · 22-04-2019 8:02pm

Mister Vain wrote: »

Krakow has a torture chamber next to a brothel. I'm not joking.

Are you thinking of the movie HOSTEL?

Mad_maxx · 22-04-2019 8:05pm

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

Tipperary is great.

Just back from a walk at The Vee - lovely spots for canoeing, walking, cycling, lovely place.

Kildare is much worse

Kildare is in my top five counties ( for livability)

Tipperary folk are the surliest in the land and all of the towns are a letdown

Greentopia · 22-04-2019 8:15pm

LirW wrote: »

My dad had to travel to the autonomous region of Kurdistan in Iraq for work very recently and he said he was blown away by how beautiful it was and how welcoming and friendly people were.

Same for Northern Syria. Gorgeous landscape. Or what's left of it.

Good friend of mine is a Syrian Kurdish refugee and he's the kindest, most genuine person I've ever met. Kurdish people are wonderful. And brave as hell. I hope one day when it's safe enough I can visit my friend's homeland Rojava- one of the three Cantons in the great Democratic Confederalist region in Syria that's a model for women’s rights, ecological awareness, and grassroots democracy in the region.

Greentopia · 22-04-2019 9:03pm

cannotlogin wrote: »

Maybe it was just me.

I hated it, the pier itself is a nice walk but that's where it ends.

It's very poor, very run down, pie shops, chippers and cheap amusements.

Very tacky, pubs very rough, numerous fights, men & women, drug dealing is very public, very chavtastic and I've probably never seen as much public oral sex before or since.

It was years ago and might have improved since but I wouldn't go back if you paid me.

I'm in Tramore at the moment and it's nowhere near as bad as that, but it's certainly a bit run down. Ireland's answer to Blackpool.

Cheaptastic 90s style holiday homes on the sea front- filthy upvc windows, metal work rusting from the sea air and the whole thing a sad reminder of poorly built Section 23 holiday homes thrown up for maximum profit and no consideration to local environment or heritage. Tacky amusement park and arcades in full swing.

Much of the town centre is not great either-unoccupied shops, badly needs a facelift. All a bit sad, neglected and low rent. It's a long way from it's genteel Victorian bathing days.
The Blue Flag beach is gorgeous though, the surf school is great and the Copper coast from Tramore is beautiful. Lovely cliff walks too.

Leaseissues · 22-04-2019 9:06pm

Utah for some hiking and sight seeing and skiing.
Brno is Czech Republic.cheap as ****

Blud · 22-04-2019 9:23pm

Kashmir is beautiful, really beautiful.

Greentopia · 22-04-2019 9:25pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

I know I'll get slated for this but Berlin is the most depressing place I have ever visited.

Madness! Full of historic sights, world class museums and galleries to visit, great cafes, bars and clubs, wonderful public transport to get around, not over crowded or a tourist rip off, beautiful parks... Berlin is not as pristine or wealthy as other German cities but it makes up for it in character and it's anarchic, creative spirit.
Coolest city in Europe IMO.

Charlie19 · 22-04-2019 9:26pm

Kosovo seems to be on the rise.

ArnoldJRimmer · 22-04-2019 9:39pm

Blud wrote: »

Kashmir is beautiful, really beautiful.

Went there years ago and stayed in Leh, its absolutely stunning. A lot of tourists are put off by the long running conflict which is fair enough. But even then, the trouble is over on the western side of what is a pretty huge region. Would have been the equivalent of avoiding Kerry back in the day because of the troubles in the North

BK92 · 22-04-2019 9:45pm

Das Reich wrote: »

The most umpopular (I refuse to type the N in front of the B or the P) country is Brazil, very few tourists for its size and things to see and half of them being Argentinians. Some of the best spots like Fernando de Noronha island and Lençóis Maranhenses are known only to Brazilians.

I've lived in Brazil and toured around a bit, particularly to the Minas Gerais, Amazonas and Bahia/Ceará states. By all means knock yourself out for a week during the carnival in Rio but for me the interest lies in what's outside Brazilian cities, places like Jericoacoara, Fernando de Noronha, and the Pantanal and river trips along the Amazon for the more adventurous out there. Good food can be had in local restaurants, but for the budget conscious traveller there's little value to be had there due to high taxes and plenty of bureaucracy - how many of you were ever asked to give a photocopy of your passport and your parents' names to buy a 'I love (city's name)' t-shirt costing €8 ?

um7y1h83ge06nx · 22-04-2019 9:46pm

Are you just looking to take a load of protein goodness in the snatch? If so, then just go to one of the main Spanish resorts.

angel eyes 2012 · 22-04-2019 10:01pm

I remember working with this guy who would bring his suitcase into work and would be off on his holidays after work that day. The destination was Rush and they had some mobile home there. The wife and the kids would be already there for the past week and he would follow via Dublin Bus from town, for the second week as he didn't drive either.

This was about 13 or 14 years ago, not a million years ago and the guy wasn't short of a few bob. No fair enough he might have had a lovely time but it always seemed to rain when he went and it just reminded me of the Father Ted episode when they were stuck in the caravan for the duration of the holiday. It just wouldn't be for me.

Stephen15 · 22-04-2019 10:22pm

Greentopia wrote: »

Madness! Full of historic sights, world class museums and galleries to visit, great cafes, bars and clubs, wonderful public transport to get around, not over crowded or a tourist rip off, beautiful parks... Berlin is not as pristine or wealthy as other German cities but it makes up for it in character and it's anarchic, creative spirit.
Coolest city in Europe IMO.

I personally find the place a bit dull and drab. There are lot's of interesting museums there but I don't like the vibe of the place it feels like seems like any aesthetically pleasing looking building there was bombed during the war and replaced with mostly ugly looking communist architecture in the East.

While cheap it was relatively cheap I found that the standard of hospitality particularly shops, restaurants and hotels was somewhat lacking. The food was fairly poor and the hotel I stayed in was crap I was there in October and the hotels heating wasn't working and the weather wasn't good as it was cool, grey and miserable. None of the locals seemed friendly no one cracked a smile and people working in places lacked any sort of basic customer service skills no smiles and not even a simple danke.

JohnCleary · 22-04-2019 11:30pm

yagan wrote: »

Myanmar was a real headreck though. Beautiful and friendly but so sad too. I'd call it a challenging destination, lots to see that will you'll be thinking about for the rest of your life.

Would be interested in more info re Myanmar. 'Headwreck', in what way?

We've traveled SE Asia for the past 8 odd years, this year Myanmar will be our new country (We only have 2 weeks which is a balls, so trying to get an itinerary together)

Duffy the Vampire Slayer · 23-04-2019 12:57am

Colombia is a fantastic place to visit, but a lot of people are instantly put off by its bad reputation.

Tokyo · 23-04-2019 3:35am

JohnCleary wrote: »

Would be interested in more info re Myanmar. 'Headwreck', in what way?

We've traveled SE Asia for the past 8 odd years, this year Myanmar will be our new country (We only have 2 weeks which is a balls, so trying to get an itinerary together)

I live in Myanmar, and have done so for the past five years - what do you need to know?

Ipso · 23-04-2019 4:18am

Leaseissues wrote: »

Utah for some hiking and sight seeing and skiing.
Brno is Czech Republic.cheap as ****

Some of the small Czech cities look beautiful.

whisky_galore · 23-04-2019 5:01am

Ipso wrote: »

Some of the small Czech cities look beautiful.

Found a lot of servers in shops and bars there to be as surly as fcuk. A customer wanting service ruined their day. Worse in Hungary, they'd nearly throw the receipt and change at you.

whisky_galore · 23-04-2019 5:05am

Greentopia wrote: »

Madness! Full of historic sights, world class museums and galleries to visit, great cafes, bars and clubs, wonderful public transport to get around, not over crowded or a tourist rip off, beautiful parks... Berlin is not as pristine or wealthy as other German cities but it makes up for it in character and it's anarchic, creative spirit.
Coolest city in Europe IMO.

Watch out for the scamming girls with clipboards asking if you can speak English and "help" deaf children. They're so obvious around tourist attractions I don't know why the police don't run them off.

The public transport in Berlin, and most of Europe, makes ours look pretty pathetic.

Rvsmmnps · 23-04-2019 6:45am

angel eyes 2012 wrote: »

I remember working with this guy who would bring his suitcase into work and would be off on his holidays after work that day. The destination was Rush and they had some mobile home there. The wife and the kids would be already there for the past week and he would follow via Dublin Bus from town, for the second week as he didn't drive either.

This was about 13 or 14 years ago, not a million years ago and the guy wasn't short of a few bob. No fair enough he might have had a lovely time but it always seemed to rain when he went and it just reminded me of the Father Ted episode when they were stuck in the caravan for the duration of the holiday. It just wouldn't be for me.

That does sound a bit bleak but also a bit funny at the same time. Getting the poxy public bus to a campsite just outside the city limits..
I really like tony

23-04-2019 11:06am

whisky_galore wrote: »

Found a lot of servers in shops and bars there to be as surly as fcuk. A customer wanting service ruined their day. Worse in Hungary, they'd nearly throw the receipt and change at you.

Hungary was very friendly when I was there in 1995, must have changed over the years as places can do.

23-04-2019 11:17am

County Fermanagh is quite an underrated place on this island. There’s tons to see: Castle Ward, Florence Court, Sheelin Lace Museum, Devenish Island boat trip, White Island boat trip, overnights on Lusty Beg Island, Boa Island ancient Janus Head, Marble Arch Caves, Castle Archdale and other lakeside forest parks, lots of restaurants, hotels, harbours on the lakes, warm lake swimming in summer, “cliff” walks overlooking the lake; easy access to Belleek and Louth Derg in Donegal, and many other places. Also air trips from St Angelo airport/floatplane port.

road_high · 23-04-2019 2:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

County Fermanagh is quite an underrated place on this island. There’s tons to see: Castle Ward, Florence Court, Sheelin Lace Museum, Devenish Island boat trip, White Island boat trip, overnights on Lusty Beg Island, Boa Island ancient Janus Head, Marble Arch Caves, Castle Archdale and other lakeside forest parks, lots of restaurants, hotels, harbours on the lakes, warm lake swimming in summer, “cliff” walks overlooking the lake; easy access to Belleek and Louth Derg in Donegal, and many other places. Also air trips from St Angelo airport/floatplane port.

Like its neighbour Leitrim there's a ton of great stuff to see and do. That whole circle as another poster says is fantastic encompassing Fermanagh, Leitrim, Sligo and north Roscommon. Also Donegal, Mayo and Galway are close enough too. Just way behind the big names like Kerry in terms of marketing i guess, catching up on facilities.

JohnCleary · 23-04-2019 3:24pm

mike_ie wrote: »

I live in Myanmar, and have done so for the past five years - what do you need to know?

Class, didn't think i'd find a Boardsie living in Myanmar! TBH, we're going to be following a pretty standard backpacker route as we don't have time to deviate, but for sure i'll be annoying you with questions

(We're there in Dec)

Was just curious as to the other post when someone called Myanmar a 'Headwreck' ... what exactly was meant by that?!

Tokyo · 23-04-2019 3:33pm

JohnCleary wrote: »

Class, didn't think i'd find a Boardsie living in Myanmar! TBH, we're going to be following a pretty standard backpacker route as we don't have time to deviate, but for sure i'll be annoying you with questions (We're there in Dec)

Was just curious as to the other post when someone called Myanmar a 'Headwreck' ... what exactly was meant by that?!

I think that 'headwreck' is a matter of perspective - me, I've lived most of my life overseas and embrace the chaos that is Myanmar, but I can understand how frustrating it could be if you're visiting for a couple of weeks. I'm also interested in yagan's experiences here.

The last boardsie I ran into out here shall remain unnamed, but needless to say, was a solid guy who I shared far too many pints with (and still owe him quite a few). If there's anything I can do to help from my end, drop me a PM. I've found quite often that the "suggested itineraries" spend too much time in Yangon, and not enough in other areas of the country, such as Inle up in Shan state, Bagan, or areas of the coastline such as Nyaung Shwe.

23-04-2019 3:55pm

JohnCleary wrote: »

Class, didn't think i'd find a Boardsie living in Myanmar! TBH, we're going to be following a pretty standard backpacker route as we don't have time to deviate, but for sure i'll be annoying you with questions (We're there in Dec)

Was just curious as to the other post when someone called Myanmar a 'Headwreck' ... what exactly was meant by that?!

I couldn’t understand the term “headwreck” in particular relation to Myanmar; I would apply that term more to my experience of India in general or the roads of Nepal, which are bone-wrecking! My experience of Myanmar was more serene, maybe because of the Sedona and other lovely hotels we would retreat to, maybe it was because the group I travelled with were mostly very positive types, maybe it was the sunshine throughout, but it was one of the most joyous trips I’ve ever been on.

Unpopular places to go on holidays

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