Borderlands 3

nix · 14-09-2020 1:15am

Deleted User wrote: »

So for actual Borderlands news, new dlc and skiltrees all round coming and a free next gen upgrade for current gen owners as well as a new game mode. Better not just be ultra vault hunter or some other mayhem nonsense.

To be honest the wind is well and truly out my sails and this game. I never thought I'd say this but it needs to be a MMO or something for there to be a point to it. It has the same problem the last game had and thats end game, there is none. Whats the point of grinding for gear and getting current level stuff if all you are going to do with it is run the same content over and over to make the next run easier?#

The best content he had was the time limited stuff. ENjoyed those more than the DLC

Aye the wind went out of my sails pretty quick with it, done a bit of boss grinding after finishing it but hit the "whats the point" wall fairly quick. Same happens with the likes of Diablo, though that has a better co-op experience. I'm surprised they didnt try to copy or improve on the Diablo formula.

But yeah, an MMO would be a step in the right direction for a game like this, with the graphic style it would look good for years to come, and theres a market for it. Destiny would be its only competitor, but they cant get it locked down either, for the long haul anyway. Maybe its too expensive/difficult of a venture for an FPS.

14-09-2020 11:27pm

The Kreig DLC is a chore to get through. No fun what so ever. Anyone running Moze should look up the Faulty Star shield though, I'm walking around killing stuff without shooting and even that isn't keeping me amused.

20-09-2020 11:24am

The

train

boss was just plain dumb too in the Kreig DLC

Penn · 20-09-2020 4:37pm

Yeah once I got to the first real boss fight, I ended up dropping down 2 mayhem levels just to plow through the dlc quicker. It was just bland throughout. So much potential in terms of what they could do with it, just like with Tiny Tina and Claptraps dlcs, but it was just more of the same with bulletsponge bosses.

20-09-2020 10:48pm

Penn wrote: »

Yeah once I got to the first real boss fight, I ended up dropping down 2 mayhem levels just to plow through the dlc quicker. It was just bland throughout. So much potential in terms of what they could do with it, just like with Tiny Tina and Claptraps dlcs, but it was just more of the same with bulletsponge bosses.

Yeah if they want more of my money now they are going to have to do better than a skill tree. There needs to be a substantial content drop along the lines of the tiny tina DLC and bigger again and then some. Anyone who as ''mained'' a character in a RPG or better still MMO will know half the fun is about levelling and learning to play a role tank etc and that when you switch to an alt and just shove points into them at max level isn't the same and usually you die real quick

Penn · 21-09-2020 8:57am

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah if they want more of my money now they are going to have to do better than a skill tree. There needs to be a substantial content drop along the lines of the tiny tina DLC and bigger again and then some. Anyone who as ''mained'' a character in a RPG or better still MMO will know half the fun is about levelling and learning to play a role tank etc and that when you switch to an alt and just shove points into them at max level isn't the same and usually you die real quick

I really think they need a new tier of weapons like pearlescents or similar now, that are far more rare. The worst thing they did in BL3 was make it so easy to get legendaries even on Mayhem 2 (when there were 3 Mayhem levels). Now I'm far more surprised when I don't get a legendary from the bigger enemies than when I do.

Mayhem mode itself is largely a pile of sh*t too considering how bulletspongey bosses become, and with Mayhem 2.0 there are far fewer modifiers that aid you to compensate for that.

Yeah I'm not sure if just the skill trees will be enough to get me to play again, and I'm not sure I have any faith in them to produce a DLC of the quality of Tiny Tina's. I mean they had the perfect chance with the premise of Krieg's one to do something really unique and interesting, and they best they could come up was

"Evil Brick uses big words"

. Even Claptrap's DLC in TPS had the glitched weapons, interesting framing of the story, new enemies and interesting level design owing to the setting.

Angron · 21-09-2020 11:43am

I enjoyed the plot of the Krieg DLC, but the bosses not so much. The final boss for it in particular felt a bit naff

oh it's a giant psycho that had no real bearing on the story up to this point, yippee

Penn · 21-09-2020 12:40pm

Angron wrote: »

I enjoyed the plot of the Krieg DLC, but the bosses not so much. The final boss for it in particular felt a bit naff
oh it's a giant psycho that had no real bearing on the story up to this point, yippee

Yeah, the big reveal of why makes Psycho's go psycho is just

"They're psycho because there's a psycho inside them or something I don't know just shoot the big thing"

. Again, huge missed opportunity. Could have tied it in with Eridians or something that could form part of the story for the next game.

Cordell · 21-09-2020 9:54pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvHgp3dla-Q probably the best part of this DLC.

wotzgoingon · 25-09-2020 10:44pm

Just started this clusterfúck DLC this evening. Seems alright so far.

goon_magee · 12-10-2020 5:56pm

Cripes the latest DLC is really as bad as I'd heard. Not sure what went wrong, but after three pretty stellar DLC's, this is a huge disappointment.

It just fails on all fronts; boss design, enemy variety, narrative, loot quality etc. all pale in comparison to the previous three expansions. The bosses in particular are a real letdown, and have to be the biggest sponges in the game, and possibly the series, to date

I'm still sold on a second year of content purely based on the strength of the first three expansions, but I'll probably by any new content piecemeal rather than stump up for a second season pass (if there is one) following this absolute disaster.

12-10-2020 7:03pm

That train was some bullpoo. For me only the first DLC is worth anyones time, the rest is largely forgettable. The best post game content they released was actually the Cartels event imo. I gave up running the second takedown due to the risk of falls during the run especially during the first boss and the rewards and drop rates being very poor.

They were talking up a new mode called Arms Race last week. No detail given except that it won't be a battle royale mode but might not be for everyone? Way to sell us on your content gear box.

Angron · 13-10-2020 7:58am

Didn't have the game for the event last year, so I'm enjoying the Halloween one going on now.

EoinMcLovin · 15-10-2020 5:44pm

https://twitter.com/Borderlands/status/1316770826285248513?s=19

Yester · 15-10-2020 9:40pm

I haven't played in ages so I'm back in for the Halloween event (missed it last year) I'm getting killed a lot. My best weapons are still the yellowcake and the O.P.Q. but they don't seem to be as good as I remember. Ah well, I'm off to Heck. Hopefully I'll find something better there.

15-10-2020 11:16pm

Get the flipper smg from one of the DLC's that should do you.

Only thing of use in heck is the ghast call and thats if you can find it with a good non terror anoint.

15-10-2020 11:21pm

I'm not liking the combination of 'squads' and ' arms race' in that announcement. They have said it's not battle royale but it sure as hell sound like multiplayer stuff and the one thing for me at least on Xbox despite leaving my game open and attempting to joining others when I felt like it is that lack of people co-oping.

In BL2 I would join randoms and help out with what ever but I've not had that experience at all with 3. Friends list have long since stopped playing and really unless you are looking for a really specific anoint farming stuff is minimal.

wotzgoingon · 23-10-2020 10:17pm

Well this Clusterfúck DLC is brilliant. I'm loving it. I don't see all the hate for it. I just arrived at the third location after the train and stopped playing as I had a decent session so far this evening. Will go back probably finish it tomorrow evening.

Wonda-Boy · 26-10-2020 2:50pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Well this Clusterfúck DLC is brilliant. I'm loving it. I don't see all the hate for it. I just arrived at the third location after the train and stopped playing as I had a decent session so far this evening. Will go back probably finish it tomorrow evening.

Glad you are enjoying it but Id say you are deffo in the minority....;)

Penn · 26-10-2020 8:53pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Well this Clusterfúck DLC is brilliant. I'm loving it. I don't see all the hate for it. I just arrived at the third location after the train and stopped playing as I had a decent session so far this evening. Will go back probably finish it tomorrow evening.

It just felt like such a wasted opportunity. The premise of it was ripe for doing something unique and interesting, like the Tiny Tina and Claptrap DLCs from previous games. Instead the best thing they could come up with was bandits riding giant bullets. Everything else just felt largely par for the course. Likewise the story of it ended up being quite bland, and we learned nothing really new or interesting.

It just could have been so much better.

EoinMcLovin · 29-10-2020 8:32pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yep-XNdGjyQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQXbCXUFCLo

https://borderlands.com/en-US/news/2020-10-29-arms-race-gameplay-borderlands-show/

29-10-2020 10:12pm

And wallet stays closed. Arms race does not look like something they should be charging for imo and certainly not €30

Jordan 199 · 30-10-2020 5:10am

Any DLC worth getting for this?

wotzgoingon · 30-10-2020 5:14am

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Any DLC worth getting for this?

All the 4 that are out now are good latest one flustercluck people didn't like but I thought it was good. First 3 are very good though.

Cordell · 30-10-2020 11:08am

The last DLC is not bad, but it's not as good as the other 3. It's more like a missed opportunity to make something much better rather than a bad DLC.

goon_magee · 30-10-2020 2:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

And wallet stays closed. Arms race does not look like something they should be charging for imo and certainly not €30

Yep. Pricing seems absolutely ludicrous. Don't get me wrong, I think the mode looks a great addition and something I would definitely play, but that pricing is outrageous.

10-11-2020 2:17pm

Well I couldn't hold my piddle could I and went and bought designers cut and yeah it's overpriced trash.

You drop down with, no gear, skill trees(so can't use the new tree either, great thinking there by the devs), action skill or guardian rank. The circle gets smaller over time, sounds familiar right? Not sure where they are going mentioning roguelite in the blurb for this because it's not. It's the same enemies from the base game in the same places on the map, all that changes is were you drop in and thats only 4 or 5 spots.

The map itself isn't really interesting and there is no reason to explore it unless you want to farm a specific chest for something. In fact unless you get really unlucky with the chest at the spawn you can go straight to the boss and kill him with a white shield and gun, solo on M10. The boss isn't anything to write home about either and the fight also never changes. EDIT: Forgot if you get gear specific to this mode's legendary drops you can't use it unless you extract it.

You then go to the extractor and put any gear you want to keep in it (up to 5 iteas) and they will go to your bank.

Then because it's great game design you have to fast travel somewhere else and back to restart it.

Mayhem 11 is just M10 with no modifiers and with halved world drop rates.

This wasn't worth 4.99 let alone 14.99

EoinMcLovin · 12-11-2020 1:40pm

I have around 100 Golden Keys

Going to be annoying redeeming them all before getting PS5 version

https://twitter.com/Borderlands/status/1326619299084079104?s=19

wotzgoingon · 12-11-2020 2:56pm

I just got my Series X and never realized there was a free upgrade for One X owners. Not too bad.

Penn · 12-11-2020 3:29pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

I have around 100 Golden Keys
Going to be annoying redeeming them all before getting PS5 version

https://twitter.com/Borderlands/status/1326619299084079104?s=19

There's almost zero need to use the Golden Keys once you're in endgame content. Legendaries are too plentiful through normal gameplay even on lower Mayhem modes that the chest is pretty much redundant, especially since you have to take the items from the chest to make it close agian meaning you'll spend a lot of time in the inventory dropping or selling weapons.

wotzgoingon · 12-11-2020 3:34pm

Penn wrote: »

There's almost zero need to use the Golden Keys once you're in endgame content. Legendaries are too plentiful through normal gameplay even on lower Mayhem modes that the chest is pretty much redundant, especially since you have to take the items from the chest to make it close agian meaning you'll spend a lot of time in the inventory dropping or selling weapons.

I have a tonne of keys but don't care about losing them as they are pointless all I ever got was purple from there and the legendary's drop so often just playing the game. Someone said it already in this thread but they should bring out a new type that is rare as it would make you try hard to get them.

EoinMcLovin · 12-11-2020 3:44pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I have a tonne of keys but don't care about losing them as they are pointless all I ever got was purple from there and the legendary's drop so often just playing the game. Someone said it already in this thread but they should bring out a new type that is rare as it would make you try hard to get them.

Yeah might just leave them, never got anything good. Was only really using them to make some cash to use towards upgrades

12-11-2020 5:43pm

EoinMcLovin wrote: »

Yeah might just leave them, never got anything good. Was only really using them to make some cash to use towards upgrades

Quicker to use a purple Atlas nade with the money and tracker perks eg Money Pounding Tracker etc. Easy to farm in the vending machines. Doesn't even need to kill, it drops money on impact so the recurring kind is even better.

wotzgoingon · 12-11-2020 5:56pm

Damn decided to boot this up on my new Xbox Series X and a massive 61.66GB update and I have a slow internet connection like really slow.

Jordan 199 · 12-11-2020 6:11pm

I'm looking forward to go back playing this. Played it on release on the PS4, then played it during the summer on the XB1 and now all the season pass content will be played on the PS4.

goon_magee · 13-11-2020 4:57pm

Did anyone bother with the new Season Pass? Verdicts on Arms Race if so?

I haven't bought in myself. I just don't understand Gearbox's line of thinking on this content release. Push out 4 new skill trees, along with a mode that prevents you from using your skill trees....absolutely baffling logic and has pretty much killed any enthusiasm I had to continue playing.

Even Paul Tassi over at Forbes was extremely down on it, which doesn't bode well as his early impressions pieces on everything are almost always tainted by his early excitement over playing something new and are generally positive. The more he plays then, his articles tend to get more grounded I find, but with Arms Race he seems to have just instantly written it off.

Angron · 13-11-2020 5:08pm

Can't say I'm a big fan of it. The timer limiting you is kinda crappy, you get none of your skills that you've been using, some of the chests that are more likely to drop specific new legendaries are so far away that if you're playing solo it's rough managing to balance getting good enough guns to clear the spawns at them without just running out of time and dying to the murdercano or whatever it is.

13-11-2020 5:55pm

Nothing in Arms Race is much of a threat really even on M10. You can run passed everything to get to the chest you need. The enemies don't spawn in big enough numbers to be a problem and you don't need to beat the boss to get your loot out , just use one of the other extractors.

Was looking at the skill tree for Moze and thought a, b, or c might be useful but then I thought "to do what?" and there in lies the old problem with Borderlands, I can re-spec to use the new skill tree , farm gear and rerun the same old content I've run for the last year.

It's happened me with the other games too but has maybe happened sooner this time out when I realise that I'm playing the game for no real reason other than for gear to make existing content easier.

Angron · 13-11-2020 6:02pm

Most of the chests are locked behind barriers and to get rid of them you have to kill all the enemies in that area.

13-11-2020 6:28pm

Found they were only really a problem in the area you pull a switch to go underground as sometimes the tornado is coming or if they had shock weapons and melted your shield.

wotzgoingon · 15-11-2020 3:07am

Wow this boots up so much quicker on Xbox series X. The really long claptrap loading screen is only there for a few seconds.

DeSelby83 · 19-11-2020 11:56pm

How does play in single player? Is the base game as good as 2? Is there cross play or any mention of that coming down the line?

20-11-2020 1:18am

DeSelby83 wrote: »

How does play in single player? Is the base game as good as 2? Is there cross play or any mention of that coming down the line?

In a word NO unfortunately despite the fact that BL3 is vastly superior mechanically.

Fisher99 · 08-12-2020 6:11pm

I adore the first and second parts, but my PC can't run the third one and I hope soon I will upgrade it and I'll try the last part of Borderlands!

Birneybau · 24-01-2021 11:03pm

About to pull the trigger on the season pass, €30 on Xbox. Worth it?

The 4 new chapters look good.

Had finished base game last year and put it aside. Installed upgraded version on Series X and been playing all weekend.

wotzgoingon · 24-01-2021 11:14pm

Birneybau wrote: »

About to pull the trigger on the season pass, €30 on Xbox. Worth it?

The 4 new chapters look good.

Had finished base game last year and put it aside. Installed upgraded version on Series X and been playing all weekend.

Are you talking about last years 4 DLC if so yes they are worth it.

Penn · 24-01-2021 11:17pm

Birneybau wrote: »

About to pull the trigger on the season pass, €30 on Xbox. Worth it?

The 4 new chapters look good.

Had finished base game last year and put it aside. Installed upgraded version on Series X and been playing all weekend.

The season 1 dlc pack with the four campaign chapters are pretty good. Doesn't have that killer dlc like Assault on Dragons Keep or Claptastic Voyage, but theyre still pretty decent for that price.

The season 2 dlc doesn't really appeal to me at all. Doesn't seem that great.

Birneybau · 24-01-2021 11:40pm

Thanks folks. Yeah, Season 1.

dreamers75 · 25-01-2021 3:35pm

Playing tru this again with the DLC to play.

Amara isnt as good as Flak imo, unless I unlock some better skills.

gimli2112 · 25-01-2021 3:47pm

I played both and found Amara much stronger. Flack does more damage but Amara is basically unkillable. Although I did pour a lot more time into Amara.

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