Tuesday/Wednesday 22/23rd, snow and breeze watch

Billcarson · 22-12-2020 1:54pm

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

Euro 04 still not giving up the ghost here....

With that chart showing what it is showing, surprisingly it doesn't show snow for the wicklow hills. According to that chart living in Ashbourne I would get some snowfall. Well I wont be holding my breath lol

Artane2002 · 22-12-2020 1:57pm

Billcarson wrote: »

With that chart showing what it is showing, surprisingly it doesn't show snow for the wicklow hills. According to that chart living in Ashbourne I would get some snowfall. Well I wont be holding my breath lol

the Euro4 has a tendency to overdo snow from what I've seen over the last few years, I don't know why many people hold it in higher regard compared to other short range models for snow.

Donegal Ken · 22-12-2020 3:02pm

I find the Euro 4 is fairly spot on when its a few hours out. Snow across Higher parts of Kerry tonight so places like Carrauntoohill, Gap of Dunloe, Molls Gap and around the Killarney National park in general will be the main focus. Some small coverings in parts of higher ground areas of Clare, Limerick and Cork also.

Donegal Ken · 22-12-2020 3:08pm

Billcarson wrote: »

With that chart showing what it is showing, surprisingly it doesn't show snow for the wicklow hills. According to that chart living in Ashbourne I would get some snowfall. Well I wont be holding my breath lol

The reason charts are not showing much snow over the Wicklow hills is due to the freezing level. Much of the precipitation will have cleared by the time the freezing level drops tomorrow morning.

Villain · 22-12-2020 3:31pm

Euro4 wouldn't be the best at forecasting snow in these setups. Harmonie is having none of it, I think you are looking at very high ground tbh with rain and maybe some sleet elsewhere.

downwiththatsor · 22-12-2020 4:31pm

Sleet and Wet snow at elevation in Kerry already

Danno · 22-12-2020 9:06pm

Heavy sleet in Johnstown North Kilkenny County.

Gaoth Laidir · 22-12-2020 9:40pm

Is the "Breeze" in the title tongue-in-cheek or am I missing something??

It's turned a filthy evening out there now (Celbridge). It started coming down heavily as I was out with the dog but luckily I brought an umbrella. Cold rain.

The midnight aviation chart shows a tight temperature gradient along the south, with the freezing level going from 3000 ft along a line Valentia-Gurteen-Dublin-northern England-Derry to 6000 feet along the south Cork-Waterford coast. Rain/isolated thunderstorms, with snow on mountains.

Donegal Storm · 22-12-2020 9:54pm

As is mentioned every winter, those snow charts are extremely crude and next to useless for anything more than a general idea. Here's the 2m temperature chart that corresponds to the snow chart above, ain't gonna be snow in north Leinster with temps around 4-7C!

Newtown90 · 22-12-2020 10:45pm

We had some wet snow here in Killarney just after 8 for a while!

Villain · 22-12-2020 10:53pm

Kerry mountains FTW

https://twitter.com/carlowweather/status/1341501094745260032?s=21

Donegal Ken · 22-12-2020 11:02pm

Villain wrote: »

Kerry mountains FTW

https://twitter.com/carlowweather/status/1341501094745260032?s=21

As I said earlier the southwest was the main focus around Kerry. freezing level isn't low enough in Leinster until tomorrow morning when the much of the precipitation will have passed. Good to see some snow. Roll on the coming weeks

Danno · 23-12-2020 12:05am

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A facebook picture from Kerry.

Meteorite58 · 23-12-2020 12:09am

Sleety train here for much of the evening, rain for a lot of the day, light until later this afternoon, 9.6mm so far

Very cold with a max of 5.1C and currently 3.7C, was lower early evening.

No reports from lower levels , snow reported on high ground all right.

https://twitter.com/countykerry/status/1341512001160433667?s=20

Danno · 23-12-2020 12:46am

Meteorite58 wrote: »

Sleety train here for much of the evening, rain for a lot of the day, light until later this afternoon, 9.6mm so far

Very cold with a max of 5.1C and currently 3.7C, was lower early evening.

No reports from lower levels , snow reported on high ground all right.

The photo I posted above was Beaufort in Co. Kerry, I presume that is fairly low-lying ground there?

Meteorite58 · 23-12-2020 12:54am

Danno wrote: »

The photo I posted above was Beaufort in Co. Kerry, I presume that is fairly low-lying ground there?

Yeah quite low lying , not far from the entrance to the Gap of Dunloe on the Killarney side, very close to the mountains, not sure if some of the parish is on the foothills ??

Danno · 23-12-2020 1:13am

Colder air across northern Cork County and southern Tipperary county with 2c widely reported.

The radar returns look messy.

Rebelbrowser · 23-12-2020 1:43am

Right now in Cork city south suburbs it feels relatively mild....

Graces7 · 23-12-2020 3:03am

Meteorite58 wrote: »

Yeah quite low lying , not far from the entrance to the Gap of Dunloe on the Killarney side, very close to the mountains, not sure if some of the parish is on the foothills ??

my old home.

laurach · 23-12-2020 5:43am

Sleet with rain in West Cork now. Feels very cold

screamer · 23-12-2020 8:55am

That Conor pass would frighten the bejaysus out of you in the summer, but with snow on it, you’d want to be mental to drive it, literally

Graces7 · 23-12-2020 9:15am

screamer wrote: »

That Conor pass would frighten the bejaysus out of you in the summer, but with snow on it, you’d want to be mental to drive it, literally

I did drive the Conor Pass when there was snow on it.... Felt frustrated then saw other cars going up sp followed them.

It was...interesting.. I thought once that if I was killed my family would never forgive me for driving it. Having lived in wild rural places I am fearless re this.

The real challenge was keeping eyes on the road as the scenery was utterly a sheer snow glory. And the view at the top....

I keep meaning to do a web article on the roads that thrill...

Getting down was interesting too...

Wine Goddess · 23-12-2020 9:47am

Maybe just maybe with this end Dec/beginning January event the Cork snowshield will be well and truly broken!
I'm thinking of Leahyl and others!
Roll on the rollercoaster I'm selling tickets!

pauldry · 23-12-2020 10:05am

Not buying a ticket until Kermit makes the thread. Looks messy at times even though freezing cold. Still most of us should see snowflakes fall from the sky in the next week even if the ground is wet.

Graces7 · 23-12-2020 10:38am

The far mountains are dark and naked...

That wind would flay the frozen skin off your face.

West Mayo.

sparrowcar · 23-12-2020 11:23am

Wheelie Bin lid keeps swinging open, I've done a full compass swing and it still blows open. Surprisingly windy here.

Kermit.de.frog · 23-12-2020 11:36am

sparrowcar wrote: »

Wheelie Bin lid keeps swinging open, I've done a full compass swing and it still blows open. Surprisingly windy here.

It's just a breeze :pac:

sparrowcar · 23-12-2020 11:38am

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It's just a breeze :pac:

I'll remember that as I'm chasing empty milk cartons around the road

nacho libre · 23-12-2020 12:39pm

pauldry wrote: »

Not buying a ticket until Kermit makes the thread. Looks messy at times even though freezing cold. Still most of us should see snowflakes fall from the sky in the next week even if the ground is wet.

The ground being wet is not the issue, if the temperature above it is sufficiently low enough the snow will stick. The best example of this i can remember was the evening of December 16th 2010, when after a day of heavy rain, 10 minutes after the rain had changed to snow it started to stick readily, despite how soaked the ground was. I could barely believe it at the time.

Kermit.de.frog · 23-12-2020 12:49pm

100%, the dampness of the ground has little impact as the temperature falls in snow fall, it freezes anyway.

It's irritating for sure in short sleety snow showers when there is not enough time to lower the temperatures but generally it's not really the issue it's made out to be.

P.S graupel, which some complain about for some reason, is the quickest way to lay icy foundations wet or not.

Artane2002 · 23-12-2020 1:24pm

nacho libre wrote: »

The ground being wet is not the issue, if the temperature above it is sufficiently low enough the snow will stick. The best example of this i can remember was the evening of December 16th 2010, when after a day of heavy rain, 10 minutes after the rain had changed to snow it started to stick readily, despite how soaked the ground was. I could barely believe it at the time.

even as recently as 2 March 2019 comes to mind.

Graces7 · 23-12-2020 2:28pm

Repeating my post in the other thread,. The wind has strengthened and a gale is due and has changed to northerly/northeasterly.

And anything is possible with a northerly gale! WATCH THIS SPACE! (DRUMROLL!)

KingdomRushed · 23-12-2020 2:34pm

It's looking very interesting around new years. I think given the low night time temps. The likely northern sources air mass. There will be very icy conditions. The probability of snow is also increasing. haven't seen weather like this modelled for January since I started model watching. Not quite 2010 or 2018 but given time of year I think the depth of cold might surprise us

mcburns07 · 23-12-2020 3:16pm

KingdomRushed wrote: »

It's looking very interesting around new years. I think given the low night time temps. The likely northern sources air mass. There will be very icy conditions. The probability of snow is also increasing. haven't seen weather like this modelled for January since I started model watching. Not quite 2010 or 2018 but given time of year I think the depth of cold might surprise us

Some interesting weather would be such a brilliant distraction from everything else going on over the next few months. Bring it on.

White Clover · 23-12-2020 7:25pm

mcburns07 wrote: »

Some interesting weather would be such a brilliant distraction from everything else going on over the next few months. Bring it on.

For some!! For others, it would be more stress on top of everything else going on.

Billcarson · 23-12-2020 7:30pm

White Clover wrote: »

For some!! For others, it would be more stress on top of everything else going on.

Hopefully snow on top of more snow

starlit · 23-12-2020 7:32pm

Very windy in my county but no snow at the moment on lower ground only on higher ground in mountainous areas this morning. Snow possible at weekend?

4Ad · 23-12-2020 8:21pm

Cold and a wind that would cut you in two in East Clare all day, no sign of snow..

Be right back · 23-12-2020 8:22pm

White Clover wrote: »

For some!! For others, it would be more stress on top of everything else going on.

Tricky for those who are working over New Years!

An Ri rua · 23-12-2020 8:35pm

sparrowcar wrote: »

Wheelie Bin lid keeps swinging open, I've done a full compass swing and it still blows open. Surprisingly windy here.

Try a 180 vertical. That'll sort it.

leahyl · 23-12-2020 8:35pm

Wine Goddess wrote: »

Maybe just maybe with this end Dec/beginning January event the Cork snowshield will be well and truly broken!
I'm thinking of Leahyl and others!
Roll on the rollercoaster I'm selling tickets!

Aw it’s nice to hear someone remembers me! I don’t post too much anymore; I can tell you though, tonight is BALTIC! I feel something coming in the next few weeks...!

Little snowy old me · 23-12-2020 8:42pm

That breeze would cut you in two.

Meteorite58 · 23-12-2020 8:44pm

Bitter out by the Kerry coast today in the stiff wind even though the temperature was reading about 8C.

Pic of Fenit Harbour with snow on the Slieve Mish Mountains in the background as cloud was beginning to clear late morning.

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Samsgirl · 24-12-2020 12:52am

Galtees this evening. Car was saying 6 degrees but it felt much, much colder. Very windy too.

tails_naf · 24-12-2020 1:16am

Samsgirl wrote: »

Galtees this evening. Car was saying 6 degrees but it felt much, much colder. Very windy too.

Where is that? Looks like you're on the North side looking south.

Samsgirl · 24-12-2020 1:51am

tails_naf wrote: »

Where is that? Looks like you're on the North side looking south.

Just outside Lisvernane Village in Aherlow.
Think you're right about North side looking south, after 16 years I'm still a 'blow in round here

Danno · 24-12-2020 1:57am

Irish Sea influenced weather across vast swathes of Ireland last night - the deepening low scuppered snowfall chances for all but the very SW areas protected by a long land fetch.

Graces7 · 24-12-2020 7:45am

Danno wrote: »

Irish Sea influenced weather across vast swathes of Ireland last night - the deepening low scuppered snowfall chances for all but the very SW areas protected by a long land fetch.

ah well... maybe as well until after Christmas. Enough problems without being snowed in for so many..

Ah Well!

Kermit.de.frog · 24-12-2020 10:33pm

Meteorite58 wrote: »

Bitter out by the Kerry coast today in the stiff wind even though the temperature was reading about 8C.

Pic of Fenit Harbour with snow on the Slieve Mish Mountains in the background as cloud was beginning to clear late morning.

Great photo! Can I just say what a beautiful part of the country Kerry is. I love the county (except for the politicians). :cool:

M.T. Cranium · 24-12-2020 11:00pm

In Ireland it would appear you have a lower snow line than we have currently in B.C. (albeit at latitudes similar to Brittany across our southern tier). Around Vancouver the snow line is about 600 metres asl. In the Columbia valley near where I live (adjacent to the northwest corner of Idaho) the snow line is just above the river valley, we were in Trail BC yesterday and the ground there is largely bare although frozen, bits of snow appear as you get a few metres up the sides of the valley and it increases to 20 cm of almost entirely frozen but deceptively snow-like substances on the ground around here, probably 30-40 cm in the local mountains.

Tuesday/Wednesday 22/23rd, snow and breeze watch

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